Is there and newer roms that don't use Sense? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I was using that twisted build but always have issues with something and the longer I run it, it just starts going haywire. Seems all the newer roms that are more active are sense based and I cannot for the life of me get used to that terrible UI. I hate everything about it.
I'd like just stock ICS, so what's out there? Thanks guys :silly:

Spykez0129 said:
So I was using that twisted build but always have issues with something and the longer I run it, it just starts going haywire. Seems all the newer roms that are more active are sense based and I cannot for the life of me get used to that terrible UI. I hate everything about it.
I'd like just stock ICS, so what's out there? Thanks guys :silly:
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http://forums.infectedrom.com/showt...ICS-4-0-4-DeSensed-AWESOME-BEATS-AOSP-CM9-☆-★
You will need to register an account to view this forum. However he has a very good non-sense rom that runs fast and is completely stable. Just make sure you update to the newest radios and read the instructions.

weird, I thought I looked at all of his roms and they all had Sense UI, Thanks man!

It has most of the sense elements removed but it is still sense-based (if I understand correctly)

You could also try santod's misenseless rom. It's desensed, uses milauncher, and has some miui theming.
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=72509

this is more of a Question then development, Mods can we get this moved to the correct location?

This thread needs to be moved to q and a. Anyhow, jblacks cm9 runs great for a dd. I ran it for almost 2 months and helped with building it. Only complaint is the ril kind of sucks and data drops a lot. If that bothers you though unsense by Santod is a great alternative.
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je2854 said:
this is more of a Question then development, Mods can we get this moved to the correct location?
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[Q] Need specific ROM advice (help me pick)

Which ROM should meet these requirements:
1. Will get a GPS fix quickly every time.
2. Good battery life.
3. Fast 4G LTE.
4. Market works fully.
5. Relatively bug free.
6. Still supported by developer.
7. Has decent install instructions - I have not installed a ROM on the Thunderbolt yet, and compared to my OGD, it seems more complex (e.g., flash a radio separately).
8. As little Sense as possible. (None would be ideal.)
9. USB tethering is rock solid reliable.
10. Gingerbread 2.3.4 (so Google Talk video works)
I initially wanted an AOSP ROM, but it seems like Sense-based ROM are working better. Is this true?
I just rooted and I want to install a custom ROM right now. Waiting impatiently for responses. hehe
Omfgb?
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Omfgb?
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It says, "An work in progress to bring working 4G to Gingerbread AOSP. Only available for Froyo MR1 radio."
That doesn't sound good to me... however, I admit that I don't know the details about the radios. I just assumed MR2 or MR2.5 would be an improvement. I'm not very happy with the stock Froyo radio (or GPS or battery life or anything else really).
Th3ory roms have been my favorite since his introduction, everything you're looking for. Try out the tester coming tonight, or wait a day for the release. Rediculous amount of dev support.
Re: usb tethering: i use easytether lite without a hitch.
greenjeans said:
Th3ory roms have been my favorite since his introduction, everything you're looking for. Try out the tester coming tonight, or wait a day for the release. Rediculous amount of dev support.
Re: usb tethering: i use easytether lite without a hitch.
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Thank you. I've been reading a lot of different threads and I was getting the impression that Th3ory roms are really good and the support is great.
What about INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 (SenseLESS)?
Regarding "the tester coming tonight" are you talking about this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186218
I was concerned about the market problems discussed in that thread. I know there are two different resolutions for market problems, but I got the feeling that this tester ROM is too bleeding edge for my first Thunderbolt ROM.
In reference to my list of important features in the OP, what advantages does the tester ROM have over INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01?
I'll go ahead and put in my 2 cents and suggest CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542
Be sure that you flash the MR2 OTA radio and you'll be fine and dandy.
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I'll go ahead and put in my 2 cents and suggest CM7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049542
Be sure that you flash the MR2 OTA radio and you'll be fine and dandy.
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So if I flash the MR2 radio, I don't have to worry about the CM7 4G problems mentioned in various places such as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057757
EDIT: ooops, the known issues listed rule this ROM out for me:
**Known Issues**
-Possible Data/Voice bugs and issues.
-gps slow to get locks
Looks like INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 is still the favorite.
I just installed INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01.
It is sync'ing at the moment. I haven't really used it yet, except to go through the steps to add my google account, etc.
MountainX said:
So if I flash the MR2 radio, I don't have to worry about the CM7 4G problems mentioned in various places such as this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057757
EDIT: ooops, the known issues listed rule this ROM out for me:
**Known Issues**
-Possible Data/Voice bugs and issues.
-gps slow to get locks
Looks like INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01 is still the favorite.
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That thread is 3 months ago dated. Current release, RC 1.4, has none of those problems.
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That thread is 3 months ago dated. Current release, RC 1.4, has known of those problems.
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you mean it has none of those problems?
I already flashed INJ3CT3DTH3ORY V6.01, so we'll see how that goes. If it doesn't work out for me, I am interested in either das BAMF or CM 7.1.
haha yes! sorry for the typo. i'd suggest going ahead and flashing those other 2 ROMs when you get the chance to whether you like injectedtheory or not. one might suit your preferences more than another.
I was just making fun of threads like this in another post.
I've read these threads, tried most of them people swear by, didn't like most of them... And I'm back to my daily driver as usual. Every ROM has it's quirks. It's just a matter of what you're going to tolerate. Frankly, I don't know how people stand AOSP. My girlfriend loves it and I hate even touching that phone now. I've got this sexy 3D ROM that flows like water and it's literally 4.5 times the size. I'm just saying that if I posted this exact same thread, I'd find every single answer pretty much useless. Whatever you do, don't do a nightly.
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I was just making fun of threads like this in another post.
I've read these threads, tried most of them people swear by, didn't like most of them... And I'm back to my daily driver as usual. Every ROM has it's quirks. It's just a matter of what you're going to tolerate. Frankly, I don't know how people stand AOSP. My girlfriend loves it and I hate even touching that phone now. I've got this sexy 3D ROM that flows like water and it's literally 4.5 times the size. I'm just saying that if I posted this exact same thread, I'd find every single answer pretty much useless. Whatever you do, don't do a nightly.
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The answers were not useless at all. The conversation helped me. But you notice that I didn't just ask a generic question. In the OP listed specific features that were important to me.
BTW, I only like ASOP ROMS as a rule, but I learned from this forum that Sense-based ROMs give less trouble on the Thunderbolt. If that wasn't true I would have stuck totally to ASOP.
Inject is great, and I do believe satisfies all of your bullets, except for dev support.
The only issue I had with th3ory's tester10 was purchasing market apps. Flashing tester 37 in a minute...
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Inject is great, and I do believe satisfies all of your bullets, except for dev support.
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Thanks for that feedback. It was one of the first ROMs I looked at and I initially rejected it because Th3ory had moved on the the tester ROM and I do value active dev support.
But the potential market issues with tester10 concerned me more. So I came back to Inject. It's nice to hear your confirmation that it will probably satisfy most of my bullet points.
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The only issue I had with th3ory's tester10 was purchasing market apps. Flashing tester 37 in a minute...
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I'm going to keep following the tester thread. Now that I have installed my first Thunderbolt ROM, next time I might be ready for something a bit more challenging (but I still want a stable ROM I can use for all my daily needs).
Thanks again.

Rezound coming tmrw, where to start?

Rezound is coming in tomorrow w/ extended battery and it's very exciting.
I'm not new to roms/mods (my DX has seen it's fair share) But I am new to the whole "unlocked boot loader" goodness =p.
I'm assuming unlocking boot loader, rooting, de-bloating would be my first steps...but after? I truly dislike sense, it looks very tacky IMO.
What would you guys recommend for someone who is coming to this phone for this first time and dislikes sense? I see so many roms in the dev section I'm kind of overwhelmed...
Look in the dev section sticky for the list of roms. Then read on each thread to find out about the quirks with each sensless rom. There arent to many senseless roms.
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After you unlock and root, you will want to install Amon RA recovery. Then pick a rom. You probably need to decide if you want GB or ICS, Sense or no Sense. Try them all and see what you like. ICS is pretty stable right now, with the biggest issue being Bluetooth streaming. Be sure to read, read, read before anything! I will say this though... the Rezound is pretty damn hard to brick. I don't know if anyone has actually bricked their phone yet.
Well I've been running ICS on my DX for 3 months and it would be a damn shame to have to go back to GB at this point honestly. Sense looks tacky with its cheap bevel filters "/...especially when compared to stock ICS. So a ICS/De-Sensed ROM would be ideal. Bluetooth streaming? Never used it so If that is the only issue with a particular rom I'm ok with that =)
psykotikz said:
Well I've been running ICS on my DX for 3 months and it would be a damn shame to have to go back to GB at this point honestly. Sense looks tacky with its cheap bevel filters "/...especially when compared to stock ICS. So a ICS/De-Sensed ROM would be ideal. Bluetooth streaming? Never used it so If that is the only issue with a particular rom I'm ok with that =)
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I love sense less roms. Only have one major problem with then for me.group texts don't worm with them
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jackpot08 said:
I love sense less roms. Only have one major problem with then for me.group texts don't worm with them
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Hmm yeah that would suck. I just got mine today
unlock/rooted w/Aman Ra recovery.
I'm trying to figure out how to debloat right now...so next step is I can install a kernel correct?
What would be a good one to try for a first timer?
I'd keep the kernel for more experienced stuff.
I use ROM toolbox to freeze my bloatware. But then again if you install a custom rom, more than likely the dev has already debloated most of it. If there is something more that you want, you can always freeze it agian.
psykotikz said:
Hmm yeah that would suck. I just got mine today
unlock/rooted w/Aman Ra recovery.
I'm trying to figure out how to debloat right now...so next step is I can install a kernel correct?
What would be a good one to try for a first timer?
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I like to use rom toolbox to debloat because it also has other nice features built in and I came from a dx so I've had it for a while. You can install a rom and or kernel now just read carefully for compatibility and such. I had to pop out my SD to delete a ph98img last night because of a main version error. I was scared
Thanks fellas, yeah I had to delete that file after installing AR recovery.
Would either of you happen to share what your fav rom is?
Depends on what you are going for. As I stated in another thread, I've had battery life issues with the ICS roms so I'd recommend the gb versions of cleanrom or rezrom. Both are super smooth. I like the theme of rez but the battery seems better on clean. Best thing to do is try though. Ive been going almost a rom a day haha
Scrossler and Joelz are starting to put in the LeeDroid tweaks, and those are awesome. I'm running Joelz senseless rom now, but Scott's Roms are awesome, and he made a lot of what we had in the "early" days possible.
twolasrnames said:
Scrossler and Joelz are starting to put in the LeeDroid tweaks, and those are awesome. I'm running Joelz senseless rom now, but Scott's Roms are awesome, and he made a lot of what we had in the "early" days possible.
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Joelz is going to drop LeeDroid tweaks for BAMF settings, I believe. Having him in here has been an awesome addition. And yes, without Scrosler, we wouldn't have much of what we do.

Opinions on the ICS ROMs?

Just curious what people think of the latest ROMs, what the fastest, smoothest, best looking are, etc...
Been using Scott's CleanROM ICS a lot and really like it, but was thinking to myself, that most of them seem to credit the same devs for various contributions and things... so in the end, are they all pretty much the same?
I know that if you ask a Dev they will say how theirs is different, but I would love to hear from end users who have used them all extensively, which ones they prefer and why.
I think that they are all great, but perhaps some are better in certain areas than others, and so a conversation that lays all that out might be beneficial to people who want to just to an ICS ROM, but don't know what one is right for them, and the "trial and error" process might be more than they are able to willing to tackle.
For reference, CM7 that I had on the DX is my all time favorite ROM, and it is the benchmark for me, so any ROM I go to, is to try and get as close to that experience as possible.
Thoughts?
Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
lraed74 said:
Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Bamf is good. I also like Nils Business and Rezrom . Try them all out to see what you like.
Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
SquireSCA said:
Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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aostl said:
Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Ok, cool, I will check that one out as well. Just ran a Nandroid backup so I guess I am ready to experiment. All of these latest versions are based off of the latest RUU, so I should not have to mess with that, or kernels for that matter, correct? Just the ROM itself, and if I don't like it, a simple Nandroid restore?
Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
SquireSCA said:
Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
mighty_markus12 said:
last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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Cool. I am trying RezROM 3.1 right now and I do like the UI and theming, and it appears that version 3.2 is about to drop, if I read the thread correctly...
SquireSCA said:
Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Nope. They all use the same kernel I think because kernel source isn't out. Just nandroid.
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I'm running RezROM and loving it. One of the best things about the Rezound is the list of developers. Whether it's Bored, Nils, or Scott, their ROMS are rock solid and well-supported. Other devs are excellent, too, but these 3 are the ones I look to first.
ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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I would assume that patching the new ROMs to run on the old firmware will be phased out. It will probably be around for a little while to make it easy for those who may want to go back to GB. Since the new ICS ROMs are pretty much rock solid the only real reason anyone would want to do that is for returning their phone though. Once the official OTA comes I'm sure noone will be making the patches any more. I could be wrong though.
I kinda hope they keep making patches personally, I for one, have had no rush to get the leaked firmware, unless a ROM blows me off my feet that requires it, none have yet.
I've got a feeling that once the AOSP ROMs are working properly they will probably be built around the new firmware. The battery life improvement was worth the 20 minutes or so to do the flash for me. I assume with the patch to run the old firmware with the new ROMs the data arrows are working? Kind of a small thing, but sure is nice to have them back. LOL
Cleanrom DE is pretty nice, has an aosp feel but still has some sense parts, seems pretty smooth but I can never get any of the ics launchers as smooth as sense was
They are all great!!!
Personally I don't like running non official firmware. When HTC releases the official firmware we are probably going to have to go through the entire process again anyways. Also if HTC doesnt deem it fit for official release then i am not using it unless I am having a major issue that needs to be fixed. I wonder if the New firmware would fix my ics performance issues though
I am running ICS now as a daily driver on the old firmware. It is still a tad slower than gb performance wise for me. I have gone back and forth a couple times. I can see why people would want to stay on old firmware or gb til official ics is release. Hopefully ics performs a little better when it becomes official.
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I used to love Sense, but as time has gone on I've grown kind of sick of it, plus it takes a heavy toll on the battery and resources. So now I've been looking for something closer to AOSP. The first ROM I used was Xtreme Outcast's ROM. It was slightly themed and close to AOSP. He hasn't updated in a while so I've tried scrosler's CleanROM DE, because he's on the newest leak, and so far I really like it. It's got some Sense elements, which I still have mixed feelings on, but it's really smooth, and has improved my battery life loads.
I am still using the original ICS leak based off 4.0.1. I have put so much time into it, and have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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My thoughts exactly, my setup is working completely stable so I have no issue to change until a similar situation.

What's taking so long to get a stock android ROM?

I mean this question in the most sincere way. I know there are some incredibly talented people out there working very hard on AOSP roms. I'm just legitimately curious and admittedly ignorant. What is so difficult about removing the HTC sense rom and replacing it with a pure stock android rom like what's found on the nexus? I know a rom like CM9 aims to add back in a lot more to the AOSP so I can imagine how difficult that must be to get everything working. If all that's being done though is just installing a pure Android rom on a phone already running Android (with a bunch of crap added in), what would make that a difficult task, that to the best of my knowledge, is still not done yet? At the risk of further showing my ignorance, what makes it different from the PC world where you could re format a PC and install a fresh windows OS on it, and get rid of all the OEM bloatware.
Thank you.
A lot of it must be rewritten from scratch because the drivers and what not are proprietary.
Please use the Q&A section to post questions in.
For starters, you dont get AOSP ROMS by removing HTC sense. You get AOSP ROMS by building from scratch from googles code.
Thats what takes so long. Getting googles code to work with our proprietary (read: no source for the devs) drivers.
The other part of it is the devs arent working on ICS(CM9). They've skipped that completely and are working on jellybean (CM10)
Deck has a build that is pretty friggin sweet.
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For starters, you dont get AOSP ROMS by removing HTC sense. You get AOSP ROMS by building from scratch from googles code.
Thats what takes so long. Getting googles code to work with our proprietary (read: no source for the devs) drivers.
The other part of it is the devs arent working on ICS(CM9). They've skipped that completely and are working on jellybean (CM10)
Deck has a build that is pretty friggin sweet.
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How close to a daily driver would you say Deck's CM10 build is right now? Last I checked the only thing missing was the camera which helped out with some other bugs that had been happening. I could probably live without a camera if everything else seems to be in tip-top shape.
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How close to a daily driver would you say Deck's CM10 build is right now? Last I checked the only thing missing was the camera which helped out with some other bugs that had been happening. I could probably live without a camera if everything else seems to be in tip-top shape.
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It hasn't been updated in a few days, so what you've heard last still stands. Give it a flash and check it out.
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It hasn't been updated in a few days, so what you've heard last still stands. Give it a flash and check it out.
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Latest has camera I hear?
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Latest has camera I hear?
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Rear camera works, switching to FFC or camcorder caused a FC/Reboot.
Still a daily driver for me.
Where do you go to find the latest build?
It's all on irc look in the cm9 thread and the camera's actually fixed now now its just video and Google now is gimmicky you need to do a fresh flash, its updated usually everyday
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flyhighx said:
I mean this question in the most sincere way. I know there are some incredibly talented people out there working very hard on AOSP roms. I'm just legitimately curious and admittedly ignorant. What is so difficult about removing the HTC sense rom and replacing it with a pure stock android rom like what's found on the nexus? I know a rom like CM9 aims to add back in a lot more to the AOSP so I can imagine how difficult that must be to get everything working. If all that's being done though is just installing a pure Android rom on a phone already running Android (with a bunch of crap added in), what would make that a difficult task, that to the best of my knowledge, is still not done yet? At the risk of further showing my ignorance, what makes it different from the PC world where you could re format a PC and install a fresh windows OS on it, and get rid of all the OEM bloatware.
Thank you.
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Because we're waiting for you to build it.
whats the battery life like for decks rom?
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whats the battery life like for decks rom?
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I'm not running it right now but it's aosp so i'd imagine a little bit better than sense right now. But maybe not since it's not fully polished.
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whats the battery life like for decks rom?
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For Deck's CM10 I get about a day. At 15 hours yesterday I was at 34%. I don't use my phone a whole lot but that's texts and emails and some web browsing. Wifi on all day and BT on for a few hours.
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whats the battery life like for decks rom?
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I've been on cm10 for a while and I can get thru a day with normal to heavy usage with roughly 20%+ left its pretty good just remember to callibrate
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Rooting my phone today

With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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ddemara said:
With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
I'd say something BAMF. SkyRaider maybe. I personally love Sense. I love the widgets, mainly the picture album widget.
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
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Once I switched to asop I will never go back to sense
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I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
Nomad1600 said:
I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
FloatingBusError said:
I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
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if you want to go the cyanogenmod route, use CM7.1.1 unofficial for the thunderbolt. its lying around this forum somewhere, CM7 uses android open source (AOSP for short) and it installs with only 88+MB of data, leaving LOTS of room. talk to me about how to majorly speed up the phone as i have and you will not regret it. i have used cm7.1, plus other tweaks involving sd-ext and cache boosts to speed up this phone 300%.using sense roms is nice, but if you want speed long term, then dont use sense. it clogs the memory with extra visuals that just arent needed.

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