[Q] Kernel Problem (I think?) - AT&T LG Optimus G

Not sure exactly what to ask to really get a good answer, so I'll just lay a bit of history out and explain my thoughts.
Okie doke. So I have an Optimus G, yes, the E970, but it was apparently a test phone - not for sale on the side of the back casing, all that jazz. At first, this didn't cause any trouble at all, really. I've flashed ROMs and kernels up flawlessly without experiencing problems outside the normal ones that others had. I noticed difficulty in doing this more and more as after I flashed houstonn's RB ROM. I found I could use 4/20 and below versions with no problem.
List of ROMS I can flash successfully and use for indefinite amount of time:
SnowJB
SnowJB's Carbon ROM
CFX ROM
Any RootBox ROM before 4/26
CM 10.1 from OA Dev
Liquid Smooth
So I've been thinking it has to be a kernel issue. But that's also weird, because up until recently, I was able to flash any kernel on all of those ROMs. So I tested it out. If I use those those ROMs without flashing kernels, I'm good to go. I can even flash radios fine. However, I CANNOT flash the houcha kernel on any of those ROMs, or I can't boot (LG splash, then backlit blackness for indefinite amount of time). Same with MysteryEmtotionz -- ROMs will not boot with 5.1.1. Haven't tried any before that. Houcha kernels before the "geeb" updates, like v12 and below, I was able to use.
I have LGNPST'd so many times to wipe my phone of any kind of data I think would interfere. I've used the kernel cleaner script before flashing kernels too to see if it works to no avail. I've formatted my internal AND external in case anything may have been left over and interfering.
I would appreciate any kind of help or direction with this because I'm totally lost. I enjoy all of these ROMs, I really do. However, I like the sound of the features of the kernels, like the amplified sound and awesome variety of governors being added and would LOVE (practically begging) to have this issue solved.
Btw, using TWRP v2.5.0.0 for all of this. Tried CWM when it first occurred and somehow lost my recovery and had to LGNPST, so I've been avoiding it.

N12X93R said:
Not sure exactly what to ask to really get a good answer, so I'll just lay a bit of history out and explain my thoughts.
Okie doke. So I have an Optimus G, yes, the E970, but it was apparently a test phone - not for sale on the side of the back casing, all that jazz. At first, this didn't cause any trouble at all, really. I've flashed ROMs and kernels up flawlessly without experiencing problems outside the normal ones that others had. I noticed difficulty in doing this more and more as after I flashed houstonn's RB ROM. I found I could use 4/20 and below versions with no problem.
List of ROMS I can flash successfully and use for indefinite amount of time:
SnowJB
SnowJB's Carbon ROM
CFX ROM
Any RootBox ROM before 4/26
CM 10.1 from OA Dev
Liquid Smooth
So I've been thinking it has to be a kernel issue. But that's also weird, because up until recently, I was able to flash any kernel on all of those ROMs. So I tested it out. If I use those those ROMs without flashing kernels, I'm good to go. I can even flash radios fine. However, I CANNOT flash the houcha kernel on any of those ROMs, or I can't boot (LG splash, then backlit blackness for indefinite amount of time). Same with MysteryEmtotionz -- ROMs will not boot with 5.1.1. Haven't tried any before that. Houcha kernels before the "geeb" updates, like v12 and below, I was able to use.
I have LGNPST'd so many times to wipe my phone of any kind of data I think would interfere. I've used the kernel cleaner script before flashing kernels too to see if it works to no avail. I've formatted my internal AND external in case anything may have been left over and interfering.
I would appreciate any kind of help or direction with this because I'm totally lost. I enjoy all of these ROMs, I really do. However, I like the sound of the features of the kernels, like the amplified sound and awesome variety of governors being added and would LOVE (practically begging) to have this issue solved.
Btw, using TWRP v2.5.0.0 for all of this. Tried CWM when it first occurred and somehow lost my recovery and had to LGNPST, so I've been avoiding it.
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ME's kernel b18c1 or w/e is for stock roms only, and houcha is for AOSP roms only. Have you done JellyBean OTA?

N12X93R said:
Not sure exactly what to ask to really get a good answer, so I'll just lay a bit of history out and explain my thoughts.
Okie doke. So I have an Optimus G, yes, the E970, but it was apparently a test phone - not for sale on the side of the back casing, all that jazz. At first, this didn't cause any trouble at all, really. I've flashed ROMs and kernels up flawlessly without experiencing problems outside the normal ones that others had. I noticed difficulty in doing this more and more as after I flashed houstonn's RB ROM. I found I could use 4/20 and below versions with no problem.
List of ROMS I can flash successfully and use for indefinite amount of time:
SnowJB
SnowJB's Carbon ROM
CFX ROM
Any RootBox ROM before 4/26
CM 10.1 from OA Dev
Liquid Smooth
So I've been thinking it has to be a kernel issue. But that's also weird, because up until recently, I was able to flash any kernel on all of those ROMs. So I tested it out. If I use those those ROMs without flashing kernels, I'm good to go. I can even flash radios fine. However, I CANNOT flash the houcha kernel on any of those ROMs, or I can't boot (LG splash, then backlit blackness for indefinite amount of time). Same with MysteryEmtotionz -- ROMs will not boot with 5.1.1. Haven't tried any before that. Houcha kernels before the "geeb" updates, like v12 and below, I was able to use.
I have LGNPST'd so many times to wipe my phone of any kind of data I think would interfere. I've used the kernel cleaner script before flashing kernels too to see if it works to no avail. I've formatted my internal AND external in case anything may have been left over and interfering.
I would appreciate any kind of help or direction with this because I'm totally lost. I enjoy all of these ROMs, I really do. However, I like the sound of the features of the kernels, like the amplified sound and awesome variety of governors being added and would LOVE (practically begging) to have this issue solved.
Btw, using TWRP v2.5.0.0 for all of this. Tried CWM when it first occurred and somehow lost my recovery and had to LGNPST, so I've been avoiding it.
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Sounds like you need either OTA to 4.1.2 or LGNPST to it. Or you need to use teenybin to update your partitions. I believe on rootbox page it says that anything after a certain date (I believe it's 4/26) you need to be running off 4.1.2 firmware.
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Drock is correct. That's your problem. You need to use lgnpst to flash teeny bin.
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nygfan760 said:
ME's kernel b18c1 or w/e is for stock roms only, and houcha is for AOSP roms only. Have you done JellyBean OTA?
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drock212 said:
Sounds like you need either OTA to 4.1.2 or LGNPST to it. Or you need to use teenybin to update your partitions. I believe on rootbox page it says that anything after a certain date (I believe it's 4/26) you need to be running off 4.1.2 firmware.
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I've always OTA'd to 4.1.2. so I assume my rpm/tz to be updated. Is there any definite way I can check after being OTA updated to 4.1.2?

N12X93R said:
I've always OTA'd to 4.1.2. so I assume my rpm/tz to be updated. Is there any definite way I can check after being OTA updated to 4.1.2?
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If you've OTA'd then it is updated.

It seems that if I format data with TWRP, as in select format data and type yes to proceed, I can flash those ROMs with only slight difficulty and confidently flash other kernels with no problem. Odd issue it seems, but at least there's a fix. Thanks for your help!

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[Q] Totally lost...Help me?

So, after reading through all of the Noob threads and such, I'm lost. There seems to be contradictory information, I'm not sure which phone mine even is (kidding, I know its a SGH-i777) or how to get anything started.
I just came from an ATT Motorola Atrix 2, and I was fairly familiar with that. I had it rooted and running a custom ROM. It seems to me however, that there is a LOT more going on for this phone than the A2.
There's things I don't understand. I know about ClockWorkMod backups, installing .zip's, restoring from backups, rooting (using Super1Click) on my A2.
What is/are ODIN? Modems?
How many of the ROMs are actually ICS?
and is CM9 a nightly or a daily (currently) ?
And I sincerely apologize. I am fully expecting and knowlegdgeable about the 'search bar', FAQs, etc that are going to come my way.
If anyone has a few simple answers, that would be greatly appreciated.
I'll lend a hand.
Well, firstly, I hope you know that the only way to get CWM on our phone is to install a custom kernel (can't update CWM on it's own either, the only way to change what version of CWM you have is to install an updated or different custom kernel).
Odin is a PC program built by Samsung for flashing proprietary roms. We've just adapted its use for flashing custom roms too, though only for flashing stock rooted ROMs without bootloaders (usually includes kernels). Heimdall is the equivalent program that also runs on Mac/Linux.
Modems are CWM-flashable zips that change the baseband, deals with signal strength and cellular data speeds (does not affect wifi speeds).
Most of the first page of the Original Android Development section are custom ICS roms: ShoStock2, Phone Bricker, CM, AOKP, Foxhound, etc just to name a few. I have no idea if CM is daily, I don't use it.
The links in the sticky by Red5 at the top of this (and every I777) forum will get you started, especially creepyncrawly's guide.
Hit thanks please! And good luck
EDIT: I felt compelled to add this. I don't know how flashing works on an Atrix, but for I777 NEVER FLASH THE BOOTLOADERS (unless you absolutely have to in order to get back to stock, and you know full well what you're doing). That's the one way to risk hardbricking your new phone.
Chrisruns said:
and is CM9 a nightly or a daily (currently) ?
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hehe, got a kick outta this question. What would be the difference? the time of release?
Nightly's are just an automatically compiled ROM. Normally one a day.
There is no CM9 stable for our device yet......and anyways AOKP is better
karate has covered pretty well.
To add to his response to your question about ICS ROM.
Chris made this great thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532368
About CM9 nightly, AFAIK, they compile/build/ and upload during night time (to 2am or 4am). That's why it gets that name.
And basically all of this could have been found using the almighty Google. But you already have your answer from some if the nicer people on the forum.
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[Q]So I have a rooted YP-GI1. What's next?

I recently picked up a GP 4.2. I immediately got it rooted so now I'm running a 2.3.6 stock rom with root. What's the next step in terms of getting a recovery installed and maybe moving up to an ICS or JB rom? I've kind of poked around a bit but it's some what confusing with all the other types of GPs in the same area. Does anybody have a recovery and rom they'd recommend? Is using rom manager to push CWM feasible?
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
NapalmDawn said:
Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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you should flash CWM via odin first and then flash the ROM via CWM
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
NapalmDawn said:
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
Xenphor said:
Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
MetaMav said:
Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
Xenphor said:
Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
NapalmDawn said:
In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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SerkTheTurk said:
Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
Xenphor said:
Where could I find a stock kernel?
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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SerkTheTurk said:
US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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Ok thank you. However, will this work with YP-GS1?
But about kernels, on the webpage where I downloaded the stock rooted rom http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166 it says specifically that the Wifi module in system and kernel must MATCH. This is what I'm talking about in regards to kernel compatibility with roms. How do I know if a kernel I'm downloading will have changes applied to it that will work with another rom like with this stock rom/kernel?
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
NapalmDawn said:
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well I had to flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198234 to get CWM on mine. I haven't actually flashed anything with CWM because there doesn't seem to be any good roms for the 3.6 unless CM7 comes out sometime. I used Odin to flash a stock rom from here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166
NapalmDawn said:
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
NapalmDawn said:
Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
MetaMav said:
I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
Xenphor said:
ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
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Xen-it seems GPlayer development is still fairly newish. the work you see from devs now are all ground work. For the 4.2 and 3.6, they seem a little less dev populated than the 4 and 5. People will build upon the work of early devs and eventually get kernels that can OC and maybe ICS and JB roms. At this stage, we likely won't see anything like ZOMG earth shattering until people spend time with the devices. Seems Serk is on his way to doing the best he can for 4.2 but I am not sure who is tackling 3.6
It's weird how roms for devices go. I learned this when I had a tbolt and shockingly saw a FUNCTIONAL JB rom for my old Eris while the tbolt was still hanging back in ginger land with not even a really good ICS rom let alone JB. I asked the Tbolt community-why? How is it the dinosaur Eris has JB and not us? It all depends on what the devs can do with the sources provided. Sometimes certain hardware points are sticky. you can have beautiful JB rom for a device that can't talk to the camera if the hardware source isn't made available (reference the HP TP for many years)
For now, flash what you're comfortable with and and learn what you do and don't like. Also learn if you want to play things safe and not experiment or take on potentially beta builds. For the tbolt, tackling an ICS rom was too dicey so I never did. On my new Rezound, I eat up JB roms as they are in much better shape

[Q] Why flash CM10, Liquid, or Carbon?

Hey, gang! I'm running 4.1.2, happily rooted on my Maxx and everything working fine. I've flashed ROMs a couple times in the past when they have provided features or functionality that are noticeably better than the stock OS, so although I'm certainly not an expert I'm also not afraid to try a few things.
I've recently developed an itch to flash CM10 (using Safestrap, and having a kind of dual-boot scenario where I can boot into either CM10 or stock as needed), but from the videos and screenshots I've been able to find it looks almost identical to the stock ROM. I've done a bit of searching, but have yet to find any major differences from stock other than having the bloatware removed. I know a lot of people love CM10, but why? Can someone enlighten me what sets CM10 apart from the stock? If there are some compelling reasons, I'm in...I just haven't found them yet.
Thanks!
PS - I'm also considering Carbon or Liquid...any thoughts on those, too?
thecarlsoncrew said:
Hey, gang! I'm running 4.1.2, happily rooted on my Maxx and everything working fine. I've flashed ROMs a couple times in the past when they have provided features or functionality that are noticeably better than the stock OS, so although I'm certainly not an expert I'm also not afraid to try a few things.
I've recently developed an itch to flash CM10 (using Safestrap, and having a kind of dual-boot scenario where I can boot into either CM10 or stock as needed), but from the videos and screenshots I've been able to find it looks almost identical to the stock ROM. I've done a bit of searching, but have yet to find any major differences from stock other than having the bloatware removed. I know a lot of people love CM10, but why? Can someone enlighten me what sets CM10 apart from the stock? If there are some compelling reasons, I'm in...I just haven't found them yet.
Thanks!
PS - I'm also considering Carbon or Liquid...any thoughts on those, too?
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Theme engine, customization options, etc. (In the settings menu). Also, it allows you to have a later version of android than the stock Rom. Hope this helps.
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Theme engine, customization options, etc. (In the settings menu). Also, it allows you to have a later version of android than the stock Rom. Hope this helps.
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Ah, good to know. I'll do some reading on the theme engine to see what's involved. Thanks!
thecarlsoncrew said:
Ah, good to know. I'll do some reading on the theme engine to see what's involved. Thanks!
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No problem.
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CM10.2 builds are starting to show up now (Android 4.3). We'll never see an official 4.3 upgrade from Motorola, so that'll be the biggest reason to flash a custom ROM, in my opinion.
I don't do much customizing/theming of my phone, but I still prefer CM over the stock ROM. I could probably achieve similar results by just removing/freezing all the bloatware in the stock ROM. Still, CM and other ROMs have features that the stock ROM doesn't.
If you're going to mess around with your phone, rooting definitely gives you the most benefit. Custom ROMs give an incremental benefit. Assuming you're careful and don't brick your phone, there's no downside to trying some of the custom ROMs out. You can even leave your stock ROM intact and switch between it and your custom ROM until you find one you like. I keep coming back to CM10, but I've also tried PacMan and LiquidSmooth. I've heard good things about Carbon and MUIU.
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CM10.2 builds are starting to show up now (Android 4.3). We'll never see an official 4.3 upgrade from Motorola, so that'll be the biggest reason to flash a custom ROM, in my opinion.
I don't do much customizing/theming of my phone, but I still prefer CM over the stock ROM. I could probably achieve similar results by just removing/freezing all the bloatware in the stock ROM. Still, CM and other ROMs have features that the stock ROM doesn't.
If you're going to mess around with your phone, rooting definitely gives you the most benefit. Custom ROMs give an incremental benefit. Assuming you're careful and don't brick your phone, there's no downside to trying some of the custom ROMs out. You can even leave your stock ROM intact and switch between it and your custom ROM until you find one you like. I keep coming back to CM10, but I've also tried PacMan and LiquidSmooth. I've heard good things about Carbon and MUIU.
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That's exactly the kind of thing I wanted to find out. Thanks for your help!
Also the numerous battery and performance tweaks and added security features.
To sum it up, just try it for yourself and you'll know.
neo.ank said:
Also the numerous battery and performance tweaks and added security features.
To sum it up, just try it for yourself and you'll know.
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I think I will, thanks!

new to the forum and device

Hi, just bought an og ,coming from HTC phone. There r some new things it looks like. What is a EFS ? Back up EFS partition ? I'm gonna used the my att og on straight talk , any things I should watch out for ? Should stay 100 % stock until service is activated? I'm looking for a near stock stable optimized rom, any to recommend ? Which kernel is good for it ? Htcs have hboot , it looks like lgs use different things , how do I go around flashing radios ? Excuse me for throwing out tons of noob questions , gonna start somewhere
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Welcome. There is a zip file that you put on your external SD card somewhere in the optimus g forums that will backup your efs partition.
Edit: I found it for you if you haven't had any luck finding it. Also.. The efs supposedly holds your imei number and stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164749
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Ic, so how would EFS be deleted ? always just had CDMA phones, never heard of ESNs deleted by mistake. Are radios to be flashed in recovery too ? My HTC flashes radios in fastboot.
Optimus 3D
optimusv45 said:
Ic, so how would EFS be deleted ? always just had CDMA phones, never heard of ESNs deleted by mistake. Are radios to be flashed in recovery too ? My HTC flashes radios in fastboot.
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It is real, there are a lot of hard bricks because of it, look in the Optimus 3D P920 forum, a lot people lost their IMEI and couldn't get it going. And yes, you can flash different radios
whats a very stable and optimized near stock rom for this phone ? what kernel can go with it ?
optimusv45 said:
whats a very stable and optimized near stock rom for this phone ? what kernel can go with it ?
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MysteryEmotion's eg8 ROM is the newest and may have the best chance of being actively maintained in the future. He also builds his own kernel with tweaks.
Ic, what version android is MysteryEmotion's eg8 ROM ? Has anyone tried houstonn's Stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean LG-E970 At&t ? I don't need the latest version android or anything , mostly seeking for stability and everything work.
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Ic, what version android is MysteryEmotion's eg8 ROM ? Has anyone tried houstonn's Stock 4.1.2 Jelly Bean LG-E970 At&t ? I don't need the latest version android or anything , mostly seeking for stability and everything work.
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Mystery's eg8 is based on 20j 4.1.2 stock with addons and enhancements. I think Houstonn's is a port from another OG that was released with jellybean before AT&T got the update.
Can you please clarify a bit? Do you mean stock LG or stock Google/Android.
Stock LG: Either go with MysteryEmotion's eg8 Or SnowJBLeaopard's SnowJB -almost forgot SlickRom, that is super debloated, but not really to my liking. (forgot who posted it)
Stock Google/Android: Either Shelnutt's Unofficial 10.1 Or houstonn's Vanilla Rootbox. The latter has a lot of "bells and whistles" while the former is basically stock. Also should mention TuxAttack's Beanstalk. Also a lot of bells and whistles though.
optimusv45 said:
whats a very stable and optimized near stock rom for this phone ? what kernel can go with it ?
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Personally I would go with dvhexers CM 10.1.2, and his included kernel is quite good. This is stock android/CM though, with a bit of searching and patience you can run LG Home on top of this, with the original weather/clock and calendar.
i.e.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198225
So then you have the best of both. Too many options for you not to get out there any try a few. But @dvhexers CM10.1 I think was perfectly stable.
I am using the JellyBean ROM. I have been on it for about a month now and haven't had any issues that wasn't caused by me
Though, other than that I suggest mysteryemotionz
okay, I'll probably go with ME eg8 and his V6.1 kernel for 4.1.2. just being on the safe side , should i flash a JB radio for this rom ? if yes, do i flash in RECOVERY ? i have found a radio called CWM-ATTJB-Radio, is this the right one ? I am being carefully about this because my HTC flash radios in Hboot with PG86IMG files... as far as flashing kernel, do u guys recommend flashing with Flash Image GUI for this phone ? and is wiping Dalvik always needed for flashing kernels for this phone ? i thanked everyone that helped.
theregkid said:
I am using the JellyBean ROM. I have been on it for about a month now and haven't had any issues that wasn't caused by me
Though, other than that I suggest mysteryemotionz
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Hi theregkid, a month of stability is very good. can you tell me which JellyBean ROM you are referring to ? ME's eg8 ?
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Hi theregkid, a month of stability is very good. can you tell me which JellyBean ROM you are referring to ? ME's eg8 ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359068
Sorry, for some reason I called the ROM 'Beanstalk' Jellybean.
It was ported from the infuse 4G. I have tried just about every ROM and this one is my favorite.
Maybe it is just me, but again I haven't had any real issue with it. I did have a kernel crash from MysteryEmotionz kernel though. I then flashed Smoochas and all is good.
The crash occurred whenever I tried to run a QR code app. (any QR code app)
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okay, I'll probably go with ME eg8 and his V6.1 kernel for 4.1.2. just being on the safe side , should i flash a JB radio for this rom ? if yes, do i flash in RECOVERY ? i have found a radio called CWM-ATTJB-Radio, is this the right one ? I am being carefully about this because my HTC flash radios in Hboot with PG86IMG files... as far as flashing kernel, do u guys recommend flashing with Flash Image GUI for this phone ? and is wiping Dalvik always needed for flashing kernels for this phone ? i thanked everyone that helped.
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ME's eg8 is modified stock, it should come with his kernel already. Yes the radio's flash in CWM as zips, you can manually push with ADB/Fastboot commands, but why bother.
What are you referring to by "Flash image GUI" ? If you mean "clockwork mod recovery" or "TWRP" then yes. Once you download the freegee app from the market, it will give you the option for either, choose which ever you like more, personally I prefer CWM. Yes always wipe dalvik cache after you flash a kernel, so it can recreate the DEX files for that particular kernels methods of execution.
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ME's eg8 is modified stock, it should come with his kernel already. Yes the radio's flash in CWM as zips, you can manually push with ADB/Fastboot commands, but why bother.
What are you referring to by "Flash image GUI" ? If you mean "clockwork mod recovery" or "TWRP" then yes. Once you download the freegee app from the market, it will give you the option for either, choose which ever you like more, personally I prefer CWM. Yes always wipe dalvik cache after you flash a kernel, so it can recreate the DEX files for that particular kernels methods of execution.
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Flash image GUI is an image flashing app from the market. MiRaGe, known for his rom and kernel works for Optimus V and HTC Evo V 4G, recommends flashing his kernels with this app. I have been using it to flash kernels. So i was just wondering if this would work with kernels for this phone , i guess every phone is different.
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Flash image GUI is an image flashing app from the market. MiRaGe, known for his rom and kernel works for Optimus V and HTC Evo V 4G, recommends flashing his kernels with this app. I have been using it to flash kernels. So i was just wondering if this would work with kernels for this phone , i guess every phone is different.
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I'm not familiar with those apps, and don't recall seeing them mentioned here at all. FWIW, I personally avoid any apps that flash things. They may make things convenient, but I've seen too many issues caused on too many devices by apps that flash stuff.
Just read the relevant threads to learn about what you are doing, and flash manually from recovery. That way, you're in control of what you're doing. Less chance of snafus caused by incompatibilities...
i am in complete stock . rg8 is 700 mb ?.... most roms i use for my HTC are around 150..
Thanks everyone for all the help. Now I'm running eg8 , everything seems fine execept the first time I took a picture had a very strange crash. The screen went blank and codes started rolling up the screen , it went on for about 3 minutes then phone restarted itself ...

Need to switch to jelly bean

Hey guys! I'm using a Galaxy Note with a Bell board (was originally AT&T but that bricked because at the time I thought flashing an N7000 ROM would work, D'oh!) and I want to upgrade to a Jelly Bean Rom. I'm using Blackstar XI, a 4.0.4 ROM, and I'm looking for a lightweight JB rom. It can lack stylus/pen support, I found myself not using that feature as much as I thought I would.
Would I run into any issues using a QuincyATT Cyanogenmod 10.1.3 ROM, considering it's a Bell note board? Would I need to unlock my SIM first? And I recall there being a trick with Notepad++ I needed to do in order to make it work, even on my AT&T board.
I just have an issue with heavy RAM usage at boot and I can't even run some apps, since I know touchwiz is stupid.
Anyone willing to help me get it running on my note? Any help would be appreciated!
MoronDroid said:
Hey guys! I'm using a Galaxy Note with a Bell board (was originally AT&T but that bricked because at the time I thought flashing an N7000 ROM would work, D'oh!) and I want to upgrade to a Jelly Bean Rom. I'm using Blackstar XI, a 4.0.4 ROM, and I'm looking for a lightweight JB rom. It can lack stylus/pen support, I found myself not using that feature as much as I thought I would.
Would I run into any issues using a QuincyATT Cyanogenmod 10.1.3 ROM, considering it's a Bell note board? Would I need to unlock my SIM first? And I recall there being a trick with Notepad++ I needed to do in order to make it work, even on my AT&T board.
I just have an issue with heavy RAM usage at boot and I can't even run some apps, since I know touchwiz is stupid.
Anyone willing to help me get it running on my note? Any help would be appreciated!
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If you like blackstar, I would just flash Blackstar Blackjelly after doing a backup. It's what I've been running as my go-to on my Telus note. The other jb's are great too, but cm comes with the odd small bug like echo on speaker phone. Most of the customizations make them worth trying though.
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Sweet. I could give that a try if the Cyanogenmod ROM doesn't work. Is there anything I need to do in preparation, since this is technically a Bell note? Or can I just go ahead and flash the ROM without any changes to the ZIP?
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Sweet. I could give that a try if the Cyanogenmod ROM doesn't work. Is there anything I need to do in preparation, since this is technically a Bell note? Or can I just go ahead and flash the ROM without any changes to the ZIP?
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I'm assuming you have an unlocked bootloader already since you are running cm. Just be sure to have latest cm recovery or gimmeitorilltell's twrp (although other versions work with Jellybean, if you try kitkat or lollipop you'll have problems). Make sure you are flashing a quincyatt rom.
I have been using SGH-I717ATT-UCMD3-Modem with great success for a radio. Your mileage may vary.
If you get no signal, before blaming the rom, first check your mobile networks access point names and settings to be sure they match your carrier. (A good idea is to take a couple screenshots of your settings now before you flash any new roms as there are quite a few numbers involved)
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Good news! I tried the CM10.1.3 ROM and it worked well minus two small gripes:
1. Occasional freeze/hang on lock screen, causing it to reboot
2. Random artifacting/crashes during video playback/browsing through gallery
I'm gonna say this is the best performing ROM I've tried so far, but I'm going to give BlackJelly a try! I'll keep you posted. Just figured I'd give Cyanogenmod a proper shot now that I know how to install ROMs!
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I'm assuming you have an unlocked bootloader already since you are running cm. Just be sure to have latest cm recovery or gimmeitorilltell's twrp (although other versions work with Jellybean, if you try kitkat or lollipop you'll have problems). Make sure you are flashing a quincyatt rom.
I have been using SGH-I717ATT-UCMD3-Modem with great success for a radio. Your mileage may vary.
If you get no signal, before blaming the rom, first check your mobile networks access point names and settings to be sure they match your carrier. (A good idea is to take a couple screenshots of your settings now before you flash any new roms as there are quite a few numbers involved)
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Time for BlackJelly! Downloading now.
I also may need some help getting the SIM to work once this ROM is on. So that way, I can use this stock-rom based OS for actual phone things instead of it just being a tiny tablet! Yay!
Can you point me in the direction of the latest TWRP recovery that I can flash through Odin?
MoronDroid said:
Time for BlackJelly! Downloading now.
I also may need some help getting the SIM to work once this ROM is on. So that way, I can use this stock-rom based OS for actual phone things instead of it just being a tiny tablet! Yay!
Can you point me in the direction of the latest TWRP recovery that I can flash through Odin?
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I'm not sure about Odin, but I flashed the latest TWRP to my device using Rashr from Google Play store.
Other install methods are described here:
https://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxynote1att.html
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developweb said:
I'm not sure about Odin, but I flashed the latest TWRP to my device using Rashr from Google Play store.
Other install methods are described here:
https://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxynote1att.html
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Upgrading my recovery now, yay! I also have the Phase kernel because I've heard a lot of good things about it.
MoronDroid said:
Upgrading my recovery now, yay! I also have the Phase kernel because I've heard a lot of good things about it.
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Backup, backup, backup. If TWRP successfully installs then backup. If something goes wrong you can revert everything or just the boot partition. (Kernel)
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