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Is this root method like unrevoked forever? Is this at the radio level or just a hacked hboot?
If later on, an OTA gets applied, will the phone still be s-off so I can just flash a recovery again?
Please don't respond 'dont take OTAs', because that's not what I'm asking.
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From what I have read it is at the radio level and OTA's shouldn't affect s-off.
vandon1 said:
Is this root method like unrevoked forever? Is this at the radio level or just a hacked hboot?
If later on, an OTA gets applied, will the phone still be s-off so I can just flash a recovery again?
Please don't respond 'dont take OTAs', because that's not what I'm asking.
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http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
From that page:
What does this do, then?
revolutionary will give you S-OFF either by a patched HBOOT or setting the secureflag to off on the device itself. This behaviour will depending on your particular device. Optionally it will also replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone.
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader.
All the info I know about is right there.
I also found this, which I'm not positive if this applies to our method, but I think it does. Interesting none the less: http://alpharev.nl/
From what I understand, S-off will remain no matter what, until you issue a fastboot command that is "fastboot oem setsecureflag3" You can see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194053 for a full tut on how to turn it back to S-on. SO yea, it's similar to unrevoked forever, where you're always S-off until you deliberately set it to S-on. Running an RUU doesn't even set it to S-on.
That all said, even though you said "don't tell me not to take OTA", I will remind you anyways, that it's always a sketchy thing, especially if HTC has included a new hboot in that OTA. To each their own though.
Thanks for the info, I missed that on the unrevoked site.
However, if it's S-Off in the radio, doesn't that mean that the hboot won't really matter? On the evo 4g at least, new hboots don't kill the s-off and you could always reflash a recovery from hboot.
I'm just wondering if you can flash a recovery with s-off from a stock hboot.
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Running an RUU doesn't even set it to S-on.
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Are you sure? I read this in the AlphaRev FAQ's
As soon as you decide to flash a stock RUU that has a HBOOT update in it, this hacked HBOOT will be overwritten.
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This is interesting, as I have been wondering how to get S-ON after running Revolutionary, should I need to take my device in for repairs.
What's your take on it?
mattchew86 said:
Are you sure? I read this in the AlphaRev FAQ's
This is interesting, as I have been wondering how to get S-ON after running Revolutionary, should I need to take my device in for repairs.
What's your take on it?
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I hear "fastboot oem setsecureflag3" works wonders.
Good info. Thanks
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hi s-off my phone when the hboot was 1.49.0007
but after the ics update i re(s-on) my phone for the new ics update
but now the hboot is 1.53.0007 and can't make it s-off(Update sucks nothing special)
1_tried using unlimited.io but didn't work made an error my guess because it's ics
2_tried using GB ROM(Leedroid) didn't work
used fastboot flash boot boot.img still no luck (restarts every 5 seconds)
3_PG86IMG.zip fails (Main version is Older)
4_last shooter ruu error 140
Any advice? thank you
If you accepted an official OTA update, then you are likely now stuck in Hboot1.5-Hell. (I made this mistake many moons ago.)
You can try one of the many methods to downgrade your HBoot, but I don't know how that works with the official ICS update.
Sorry.
thanks for answering
hope there will be a solution soon
not much of a problem still can flash any ICS ROM Unless Sense 4.0
but if there are any other ideas please help
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hi s-off my phone when the hboot was 1.49.0007
but after the ics update i re(s-on) my phone for the new ics update
but now the hboot is 1.53.0007 and can't make it s-off(Update sucks nothing special)
1_tried using unlimited.io but didn't work made an error my guess because it's ics
2_tried using GB ROM(Leedroid) didn't work
used fastboot flash boot boot.img still no luck (restarts every 5 seconds)
3_PG86IMG.zip fails (Main version is Older)
4_last shooter ruu error 140
Any advice? thank you
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What error code did you get?
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error 140 Bootloader version error
This may sound dumb like a dumb question but do you see super user in your apps?
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That error could mean the update put your bootloader to stock I'm not certain of what your capable of doing at the moment but I do know to unlock the bootloader for hboot 1.5 you had to use the HTC unlock method and maybe you'll have to use it. I'm not an expert so this may not be the case but keep in mind you said your hboot is at a different value than previous to me it would only make sense to use the HTC method to unlock reestablish root the use the wire trick to get s-off. If you try this I wish you success. Sorry if this seems lacking but if I find something out I'll make sure you know
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sorry non of that works
anyways
thanks for trying to help
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sorry non of that works
anyways
thanks for trying to help
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Did u tried the pg86img gingerbread with goldcard ?
Or the official pg86img with changed older hboot ?
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friend.evil said:
hi s-off my phone when the hboot was 1.49.0007
but after the ics update i re(s-on) my phone for the new ics update
but now the hboot is 1.53.0007 and can't make it s-off(Update sucks nothing special)
1_tried using unlimited.io but didn't work made an error my guess because it's ics
2_tried using GB ROM(Leedroid) didn't work
used fastboot flash boot boot.img still no luck (restarts every 5 seconds)
3_PG86IMG.zip fails (Main version is Older)
4_last shooter ruu error 140
Any advice? thank you
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1_ you tried unlimited.io and it didn't work? Thats surprising to me.
2_ have you tried booting recovery from fastboot and flashing a gb rom? Fastboot boot recovery yourrecovery.img
3_ You can run an older ruu if you change your main version, but it still won't lower your hboot, your phone says its version "x.x.x.x" and the ruu is lower so it won't flash.
4_ you will never be able to lower your hboot unless you use a downgrade method like unknownforces brick/downgrade. If you put a lower hboot in the newest ruu, it won't run because you've broken the HTC signature. Id try the wire trick again if I were you.
Question, why did you s-on? I've taken ota's with s-off and as soon as I see the new hboot I just reflash the engineering hboot.
I have ~ the same problem as friend.evil, although he says he can run roms with Sense < 4, (if i understood correctly) while i can not.
I did try the lastest GB (provided by anryl) PG86IMG, with no luck (device always stuck in boot loop), but i do not have any goldcard (nor could i find one for evo 3d, but i did not google for it that much)
I am not sure about what you (anryl) mean by « official pg86img with changed older hboot ? » ?
Would an ICS RUU solve the problem ? I will probably also try to downgrade hboot if no other suggestions pops up =S
(More context: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28076870&postcount=231 )
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I have ~ the same problem as friend.evil, although he says he can run roms with Sense < 4, (if i understood correctly) while i can not.
I did try the lastest GB (provided by anryl) PG86IMG, with no luck (device always stuck in boot loop), but i do not have any goldcard (nor could i find one for evo 3d, but i did not google for it that much)
I am not sure about what you (anryl) mean by « official pg86img with changed older hboot ? » ?
Would an ICS RUU solve the problem ? I will probably also try to downgrade hboot if no other suggestions pops up =S
(More context: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28076870&postcount=231 )
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I don't mean to be insensitive but if you s-on'd and then took a new ota then youve got a problem on your hands. An older ruu with an older hboot will do you no good as it won't flash unless you change your main version, and even if you do that it won't flash an older hboot, just an older system (gb). You should go ahead and check in to downgrading.
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I don't mean to be insensitive but if you s-on'd […].
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(It has always been s-on)
espace.ariane said:
(It has always been s-on)
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Gotcha, well you should consider downgrading to get s-off. It's much more trouble free than s-on. Are you gsm or cdma?
NVM, dumb question, lol, if you took an ics ota then you're gsm
Edit... After reading your post in the link provided, is say that an ics ruu would fix u up. I'm cdma so I wouldn't know where to find it at.
Thanks for you suggestions… But still, i don't understand why downgrading should be necessary : why would flashing a rom, stock or not be a problem for the bootloader ? Can we not write to system or flash the boot partition anymore (from fastboot, using fastboot flash boot boot.img ?) in 1.53.0007 ?
(And indeed, gsm forgot to mention, sry)
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Thanks for you suggestions… But still, i don't understand why downgrading should be necessary : why would flashing a rom, stock or not be a problem for the bootloader ? Can we not write to system or flash the boot partition anymore (from fastboot, using fastboot flash boot boot.img ?) in 1.53.0007 ?
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You might be on to something there, some hboots don't accept commands that others do. I would think that if you changed your main version and then ran a gb pg86img, it would get you back to gb but it won't change your hboot.
Have you tried booting a recovery from fastboot with fastboot boot recovery.img?
You can't use radios, ruu's, or the juop s-off method with 1.53. It's like having a locked/unlocked boatloader.
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kiewee3 said:
You can't use radios, ruu's, or the juop s-off method with 1.53. It's like having a locked/unlocked boatloader.
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the problem in JuopunutBear is that it keeps waiting for the device
tells me to check if adb and fast drivers are installed but i am positive they are
Is there a possibility for a GB ROM to work on hboot 1.53.0007?
I havent had any luck installing cyanogenmod ics roms, it either doesnt let me past the splashscreen or starts to boot, then the boot animation freezes. However the phone runs sense ics roms just fine. using ext4 recovery, hboot 1.58, s on
You can't flash the CM Roms with that hboot. It will always bootloop. I recommend getting s-off so you can downgrade your hboot.
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coal686 said:
You can't flash the CM Roms with that hboot. It will always bootloop. I recommend getting s-off so you can downgrade your hboot.
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Thank you, I will try to turn s-off and see what happens.
richyrocket said:
Thank you, I will try to turn s-off and see what happens.
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not just soff you need the old hboot to run those
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You can't flash the CM Roms with that hboot. It will always bootloop. I recommend getting s-off so you can downgrade your hboot.
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Hi. I have same situation.
Evo GSM, S-on, hboot 1.51, bootloop.
I saw 'wire trick' to make phone s-off.
Explain me please, how do i can do it without booting into android. Is there any way to instal ANY bootable ROM on my configuration/settings?
I asking bcouse i tried several ones (gb ledroid, ics from sources, and cm9)
Any help could be usefull
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I havent had any luck installing cyanogenmod ics roms, it either doesnt let me past the splashscreen or starts to boot, then the boot animation freezes. However the phone runs sense ics roms just fine. using ext4 recovery, hboot 1.58, s on
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I believe you have to wipe all the data when it tried installing CM9 without wiping data from my previous sense rom it got stuck in the boot animation ( Boot loop ) But if that wont work it probably is because your S-ON even though its strange when i was S-ON i could run CM9 perfectly but go S-OFF it takes some hard work and time but its very rewarding later
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not just soff you need the old hboot to run those
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I tried to use the wire trick, got s off successfully, but still no luck booting either rom. cm10 wont even make it past the splash screen, but cm9 freezes at the animation then shuts down. can you tell me how to downgrade hboot?
richyrocket said:
I tried to use the wire trick, got s off successfully, but still no luck booting either rom. cm10 wont even make it past the splash screen, but cm9 freezes at the animation then shuts down. can you tell me how to downgrade hboot?
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Found a way to downgrade to hboot 1.4, still wont boot cm9 or cm10. anyone know why?
richyrocket said:
Found a way to downgrade to hboot 1.4, still wont boot cm9 or cm10. anyone know why?
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I suggest flashing the stock rom and then trying to flash cm9 again now that you have s-off. Make sure to clear data, cache and dalvik
xZiia said:
I suggest flashing the stock rom and then trying to flash cm9 again now that you have s-off. Make sure to clear data, cache and dalvik
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I was able to downgrade to hboot 1.4, and keep s off. Now my stock rom backup wont boot I guess i need to choose one or the other.
richyrocket said:
I was able to downgrade to hboot 1.4, and keep s off. Now my stock rom backup wont boot I guess i need to choose one or the other.
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The problem is the stock ROM uses the new kernel which requires hboot 1.58. Flash a custom ROM that uses the VM leak kernel. Try MeanROM, Homebrew, d3rp, and / or ZR3dX. That will get your phone booting (hopefully), then go from there.
richyrocket said:
Found a way to downgrade to hboot 1.4, still wont boot cm9 or cm10. anyone know why?
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If you using superwipe, dont use it or you will get bootloop
Make sure you format all partition except sd card after change hboot
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sabbath88 said:
Hi. I have same situation.
Evo GSM, S-on, hboot 1.51, bootloop.
I saw 'wire trick' to make phone s-off.
Explain me please, how do i can do it without booting into android. Is there any way to instal ANY bootable ROM on my configuration/settings?
I asking bcouse i tried several ones (gb ledroid, ics from sources, and cm9)
Any help could be usefull
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Bump.. any clue?
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Bump.. any clue?
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Have you tried locking and running an ruu to get things running again?
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Have you tried locking and running an ruu to get things running again?
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True. Lock and lastest ruu helped. Thanks alot.
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The way I see it, bootloops of the kind can have a couple causes:
Ur S-on and/or your hboot is too high
you didn't clear cache/dalvik/data
your kernel and hboot don't agree with eachother
solution:
Htcdev to get S-off
downgrade hboot
install custom recovery (if not alrdy present)
install custom rom
Hello folx,
My device is unlocked, rooted, hboot version 1.53.0007 and s-on. I try to flash rom via 4ext recovery touch. for every rom the boot image show up than restart with an infinite loop. How do i fix it ? The problem caused by hboot version or being s-on ? I don't want to mess up with s-off. I don't want to push my phone that far with wired stuff.
Thanks.
S-on is your issue, the only way you might be able to flash a rom without resulting in a boot loop is with 4ext with smart flash enabled but there's also the hboot which could cause issue too depending in which rom you flashed and also the firmware could also cause issues, so to sum up, go s-off already and do us all a favorite, makes life so much easier
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh!
Best way to fix this is to get s-off using the wire trick then downgrade your hboot to 1.4 (I had the same issue and this fixed it). As flash said, use 4ext recovery. The wire trick isn't that bad, it's actually really easy.
Is there any proper tutorial that i can apply s-off to my phone ? Does the hboot version differ this process?
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By the way i wanted to install latest miui jb rom with 4ext recovery by enabling smartflash. Even with that option it doesn't work. And also first i try to flash boot img and than installed the rom still same.
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you wont be able to boot jb roms with your hboot. get s-off using this guide and downgrade hboot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
Do method D (wire trick)
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By the way i wanted to install latest miui jb rom with 4ext recovery by enabling smartflash. Even with that option it doesn't work. And also first i try to flash boot img and than installed the rom still same.
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You need to downgrade your Hboot to install jb roms, and the only way to do it is with S-OFF, I did a few phones using the wire trick method and have not had any problems yet. S-OFF is well worth it if you want try different roms...
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You need to downgrade your Hboot to install jb roms, and the only way to do it is with S-OFF, I did a few phones using the wire trick method and have not had any problems yet. S-OFF is well worth it if you want try different roms...
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This guy is unbelievable. You have been posting redundant solutions that have already been suggested. If there's something different and more insightful that you can add please do so. Otherwise don't post. I know your trying to help but just wait until somebody hasn't had their issue resolved and do what I suggested.
Now I must lay down. My headache is killing me:crying:
salihk. said:
Is there any proper tutorial that i can apply s-off to my phone ? Does the hboot version differ this process?
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This video. is what I used. And for the wire. I just used a piece of small copper wire with rubber on it. But it's the most informative video I've seen.
I had this problem as well.
Ultimately, the solution was to downgrade to hboot 1.49.0007 (from 1.57.xxxx).
Unsure what happened. Phone has been rebooting and overheating for days so I went to RUU it and after I relocked the bootloader my phone decided not to go past bootloader anymore. When I try RUU I get Error 140 Bootloader Version Error. My bootloader has a Security Warning at the top which was not there before. I would like to RUU and get S-OFF so I can take the phone in without issue but am having no luck.
Some more info would be useful. What Hboot & baseband are you currently on, and what RUU did you try to run?
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Some more info would be useful. What Hboot & baseband are you currently on, and what RUU did you try to run?
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The 3.15 RUU and HBoot 2.09 I dunno basebands. If there is a working 3.16 RUU that would be helpful but there isn't...
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The 3.15 RUU and HBoot 2.09 I dunno basebands. If there is a working 3.16 RUU that would be helpful but there isn't...
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Baseband is your radio version, and you can check it in the bootloader.
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Baseband is your radio version, and you can check it in the bootloader.
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1.12
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1.12
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The radio version is directly below the Hboot version. That looks like the Hboot version. Boot into the bootloader and list the info displayed in the top left corner of the screen, all the way down to the radio version.
You relocked so you'll need to unlock again. You may even need to install a recovery again. What ROM/kernel combo were you on? If you were on a custom kernel, I would try a different one or stick with stock. Some kernels don't play well with certain phones, especially if you're overclocking or changing the voltage any. For now, try unlocking and getting the phone up and running again.
Also, gaining S-off is highly recommended
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The radio version is directly below the Hboot version. That looks like the Hboot version. Boot into the bootloader and list the info displayed in the top left corner of the screen, all the way down to the radio version.
You relocked so you'll need to unlock again. You may even need to install a recovery again. What ROM/kernel combo were you on? If you were on a custom kernel, I would try a different one or stick with stock. Some kernels don't play well with certain phones, especially if you're overclocking or changing the voltage any. For now, try unlocking and getting the phone up and running again.
Also, gaining S-off is highly recommended
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Hboot is 2.09 Radio is 1.12 I cannot unlock because it won't write. I cannot seem to do anything. I tried using the Unbricking tool but it does not recognize my device. I think this issue started when I tried to lock after a failed s-off attempt.
What do you mean when you say it won't write?
Also, for your radio, use the last four digits, not the ones at the beginning.
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What do you mean when you say it won't write?
Also, for your radio, use the last four digits, not the ones at the beginning.
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Full Radio is 1.12.11.1210 and when I flash something via fastboot it sends it then has a write error. I have tried flashing RUU's, recovery, my unlock_code all to no avail. I tried using the unbricking tool but linux doesn't seem to see my device (I am new to linux). I appreciate the help btw.
You won't be able to use fastboot commands to push a recovery to your phone while it's relocked. Also, the RUU won't work because you're on a software version higher than the most recent RUU.
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You won't be able to use fastboot commands to push a recovery to your phone while it's relocked. Also, the RUU won't work because you're on a software version higher than the most recent RUU.
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This is where HTC screwed us with no recent ruu... Smh.
The the op... Have you gone through the steps to HTC Dev unlock again? What does it say when you send the unlock token?
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gunfromsako said:
This is where HTC screwed us with no recent ruu... Smh.
The the op... Have you gone through the steps to HTC Dev unlock again? What does it say when you send the unlock token?
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The unlock token won't write. Nothing will write. If there was a modified RUU that would help. If I could modify my version so the RUU would work that would work... and yeah HTC really screwed us...
Edit: Actually the unlock_code.bin writes but then nothing happens on the phone...
Update: took it to a sprint store and they fixed it. They apparently have 3.16 RUU. Or magic....
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