Apps 2 SD Failure - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok im having this problem where apps 2 sd doesnt want to work for me.... check this image
But i do think huawei blocked move to sd feature.... so how do fix it new kernal?
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It's not a kernel thing. Your device has most likely has enough storage and ram to accommodate the rom, your stuff and storage for your apps. My device, GS3's and probably more really have no problem with this. My captivate on the other hand had such little ram and phone storage, the emmc chip was partitioned with 1.5gb of phone storage, 550 megs of rom storage and the rest USB(13gb or so) However moving apps also meant widgets wouldn't work. Hope this shines a little light on the situation.
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sonygoup said:
Ok im having this problem where apps 2 sd doesnt want to work for me.... check this image
But i do think huawei blocked move to sd feature.... so how do fix it new kernal?
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It's not a kernel thing. Your device has most likely has enough storage and ram to accommodate the rom, your stuff and storage for your apps. My device, GS3's and probably more really have no problem with this. My captivate on the other hand had such little ram and phone storage, the emmc chip was partitioned with 1.5gb of phone storage, 550 megs of rom storage and the rest USB(13gb or so) However moving apps also meant widgets wouldn't work. Hope this shines a little light on the situation.
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Ok so is there any way of fixing that because i have a empty 16gb and the tablet holds 8gb and has like 3 mount points for the one sd card
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I was checking out the s4 thread and they seem to use something called foldermount I haven't read that much on it but it might help you out. I also forgot my nexus doesn't have a external card like my captivate.
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Hi thanks for the help! Gonna root my device and find out if it work :fingers-crossed:

Glad to help. I'm still getting to learn my way around android as well.
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Im been around for four years or so bu still learning! And it didnt work so i guess i give up for now!
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Multiple Storage Partitons

Hello All,
I apologize if there was a thread about this in the past I tried searching but wasn't sure how to exactly word it. I was wondering about sd cards and partitions, I believe that the max size the atrix 4g is 32gb internal. What I was wondering is it possible to take a 64gig card partition it into 2 32gb partitions and have the phone be able to read those separately?
Thanks
Most android devices support 64gb microsd. Feel free to try it, btw is not the internal. Internal is 16gb for all of the device needs, os, webtop, etc and the external, the one you are mentioning.
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Well I read like the default specs and it said it supports up to 32gb external but that was written I think before 64gb cards. I'm running cm7 so that may help too. Would just hate to spend the money if I put it in and it only recognizes 32 lol.
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Upgrading the internal 16GB to 32GB

Is there any way to upgrade the internal 16GB storage to a 32GB? I'm not referring to the external MicroSD card.
It might be possible i think samsung use SD cards as their internal storage.
Yh of course there is sell ur 16gb version nd buy the 32gb version
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ORRRRRRRR you can try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
is it even possible ? unless there are motherboard with 32 gb for sale ?
This is not possible for the conventional person unless you have access to some pro level reflow ovens and flash chips.
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You need a laptop hard drive, super glue and a hammer.
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So is that basically a no, without serious mods to the phone?
Dude the internal flash memory is what's called smd in electronics (surface mounted device). Basically they are miniaturized semiconductor components with tiny solder pads which can only be joined with specialized equipment.
It's impossible to mess with it at home, that's why I sprung the extra cash for the 32gb version.
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This is indeed a very interesting notion since the galaxy s3 was my very first smartphone and android I thought to myself that with the 16gb internal SD with an extra external SD card it should suffice but I was very wrong as apps only install in the internal SD card and I'm almost at my limits since I have alot of HD games and apps installed.
SamGalS3_556 said:
Is there any way to upgrade the internal 16GB storage to a 32GB? I'm not referring to the external MicroSD card.
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Just buy a 64 GB micro sd card.
Have a look at Directory Bind. This should solve your space issues (assuming you have a micro sd card in your phone).
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Itadakiimasu said:
This is indeed a very interesting notion since the galaxy s3 was my very first smartphone and android I thought to myself that with the 16gb internal SD with an extra external SD card it should suffice but I was very wrong as apps only install in the internal SD card and I'm almost at my limits since I have alot of HD games and apps installed.
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Just use this? That should solve your problem..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
danieljamie said:
Just use this? That should solve your problem..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
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Im new to rooting so i don't like the idea of fiddling with it so is there any other means?
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Lot less hassle rooting than even thinking about opening up device and messing with that...
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Yeah but there's a mod to swap the Internal and external SD cards so you could buy a 64gb card and have lots of app storage. Its also a matter of time before the app2 SD gets sorted for s3
Oh well no worries, I can live with it
Itadakiimasu said:
Im new to rooting so i don't like the idea of fiddling with it so is there any other means?
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Using the galaxy s3 toolkit, rooting is very very easy... just follow the guide and you are rooted
Get a 32
Shug69 said:
Yeah but there's a mod to swap the Internal and external SD cards so you could buy a 64gb card and have lots of app storage. Its also a matter of time before the app2 SD gets sorted for s3
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hope so , so far there is no update on this , not sure if samsung gonna enable this,
even a china phone with android has this function

Why claim 8gb?

This makes me crazy. Why do they claim 8gb when there is not even 5gb usable? Be honest, say 5gb so we are able to gauge what we are getting. At least when you get an SD card almost all of it is there.
You forgot 2 gb internal storage for apps..yes its not full 8 gb ..its 7 point something but it never is.
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It is the same reason for your hdd on your pc. The drive does have 8gb total but some of it is used up by the system's OS. Your usable space is actually 5.5gb with 1.3gb being used for apps. Any storafe medium does this. If you notoce on sd cards it may say 16gb but the user only has access to 14 gb
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-sigh- because there really is 8gb of memory and they would be lying if they said 5gb. Think about it; all tech companies list the memory as the total amount of internal memory, not just available memory. If Samsung had a guilty conscience and said the galaxy player had 5gb, how could you compare to the iPod, that still said 8gb? There really is 8gb, but only 5gb available. Life tends to not be perfect.
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iJimaniac said:
-sigh- because there really is 8gb of memory and they would be lying if they said 5gb. Think about it; all tech companies list the memory as the total amount of internal memory, not just available memory. If Samsung had a guilty conscience and said the galaxy player had 5gb, how could you compare to the iPod, that still said 8gb? There really is 8gb, but only 5gb available. Life tends to not be perfect.
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I didnt understand why there is 2gb od system storage,why when i install an app the size storage is taken from the usb storage and the system storage?why do we need the system storage
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kfirbep said:
I didnt understand why there is 2gb od system storage,why when i install an app the size storage is taken from the usb storage and the system storage?why do we need the system storage
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System storage is for apps..some aps can be instaled on sd (usb) but you can move and them to system..be happy that SGP has a lot of system memory..i had phone with just 200mb of system memory and 8 gb card and that was nightmare.
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DZonikg said:
System storage is for apps..some aps can be instaled on sd (usb) but you can move and them to system..be happy that SGP has a lot of system memory..i had phone with just 200mb of system memory and 8 gb card and that was nightmare.
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but what is the different if i have 2 GB of system storage and 5 GB of usb storage?i prefer that it will be 7 GB of storage that apps will be installed because right now when i install an app it takes place in the system storage and the usb storage i think that it just make things more complicated.
kfirbep said:
but what is the different if i have 2 GB of system storage and 5 GB of usb storage?i prefer that it will be 7 GB of storage that apps will be installed because right now when i install an app it takes place in the system storage and the usb storage i think that it just make things more complicated.
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Most apps can not be instaled on usb storage so you want be able to install them at all with out it ..also almost all aps have some librarys and they all go to system storage..also dalvic cache is on system storage..and every app that is on usb storage you can move it to system..just go to menage aplications in settings ..click on app and click on move to device
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caseyatbt said:
This makes me crazy. Why do they claim 8gb when there is not even 5gb usable? Be honest, say 5gb so we are able to gauge what we are getting. At least when you get an SD card almost all of it is there.
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Just buy a 64gb MicroSD and swap the internal with the external, then you'll have 64gb for apps to be installed on.
Simple fix.
ZaIINN said:
Just buy a 64gb MicroSD and swap the internal with the external, then you'll have 64gb for apps to be installed on.
Simple fix.
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I agree,i have done it with 32 gb.
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DZonikg said:
I agree,i have done it with 32 gb.
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I have 32gb too,how I do it?
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kfirbep said:
I have 32gb too,how I do it?
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Modify your hold.fstab file in /system/etc
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RAM-EXPANDER (up to 4gb)

ROEHSOFT RAM-EXPANDER (SWAP)
This app claim to add up to 4gb of virtual ram to your device have anyone try it? Does it work?
features:
- use free external SD card as RAM memory (RAM SWAP / SWAP MEMORY)
- RAM expansion up to 4 GB swapfile
- The usual performance losses occur when swap sd cards not from class-8
- Widget for PNP swap (swap on / swap off)
- Detailed information storage and analysis
- Autostart function
- Swappiness kernel parameter set
- Use simple child's play
(1 click optimization and automatic calculation)
- Support of all Android devices with Tung (root access and support Kernelswap)
googleplay link
Testing it right now, ill post back in a bit after I get a few games going and stuff
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Well, at $9 it ain't cheap. There is a free version to check for comatability, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roehsoft.meminfo#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLnJvZWhzb2Z0Lm1lbWluZm8iXQ.. Very interesting idea. But is it really needed? I never use all of my RAM and Android manages RAM very well.
Use caution ...
Now I have a swap file that won't delete from sd card ....and my device is running half speed after 2 reboot cycles ...
Still checking for hidden background process app running after uninstall ....
His English is so poor (no translation program ) that I never should have tested this POS....g
gregsarg said:
Use caution ...
Now I have a swap file that won't delete from sd card ....and my device is running half speed after 2 reboot cycles ...
Still checking for hidden background process app running after uninstall ....
His English is so poor (no translation program ) that I never should have tested this POS....g
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Not insulting your intelligence here as you may have done/tried this already, but in the file explorer you are using, you are granted root permissions as well as mounting the file system as writable when trying to delete this swap file correct?
The other thing to consider is that the read/write speeds of the actual RAM are much much much higher than the read/write speeds of the flash storage. So that's why you're experiencing super slow speeds Greg.
Like said above, android manages RAM very well to begin with, there is really no need for this.
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thair7391 said:
Not insulting your intelligence here as you may have done/tried this already, but in the file explorer you are using, you are granted root permissions as well as mounting the file system as writable when trying to delete this swap file correct?
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Yes......g
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welchertc said:
The other thing to consider is that the read/write speeds of the actual RAM are much much much higher than the read/write speeds of the flash storage. So that's why you're experiencing super slow speeds Greg.
Like said above, android manages RAM very well to begin with, there is really no need for this.
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Agreed....
I've managed to get the swap removed.......after removing root permissions from my entire SD card basically....
And Like you, i will not be using this app.....
It makes the phone operate at am amazingly slow speed.....g
thanks brother....g
I would avoid swap. I tested using swap on my device by adding a swap file manually(using terminal and swapon) and it worked at first. After leaving the device on for a while, though, I started getting long lag spikes.
LOL you actually spent 9 dollars on that greg? Must be nice to have money to throw away at crap.
Eric-1987 said:
LOL you actually spent 9 dollars on that greg? Must be nice to have money to throw away at crap.
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No ....I used the free test version ...
An app would need to make my note walk on water before I'd drop $9.00 on it ....
I'm a cheap bast*** ....LOL .....g
Yeah, I just love paying money to kill my device.
All these VM apps do, is set aside some flash memory as a paging file, which over time all those repeated writes will result in the internal flash memory dying.
As the above said... using flash as swap is a terrible idea. The swap file is treated just like ram in that it gets a ton of random reads and writes. Flash memory has a limited lifespan as far as read/writes go and all you are doing is accelerating the destruction of the storage. Swap files were intended to be used on magnetic storage based hard drives that can handle the abuse.
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Theres an option to use your external sd. That's what Im doing, at 1080 mb it does show in the app that its using about 100mb for ram. Yes I know it can kill my memory. But I haven't had any issues yet, just my two cents. But prolly gonna take it off tho
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Why do we need extra ram anyways? I don't recall ram ever being an issue.
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I will try this one. I need more ram.
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sunny68 said:
I will try this one. I need more ram.
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Read about 5 posts back....
it's your call of course, but as mentioned......it's a device killer over time...(fact).....g
gregsarg said:
Read about 5 posts back....
it's your call of course, but as mentioned......it's a device killer over time...(fact).....g
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If you do this, partition off the end of your SD card and use that space. That way when the flash dies, you can simply not use that part of the SD card any longer.
Certainly don't do swap on the internal storage, ever.
khaytsus said:
If you do this, partition off the end of your SD card and use that space. That way when the flash dies, you can simply not use that part of the SD card any longer.
Certainly don't do swap on the internal storage, ever.
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Thank you ....but I won't be using this mod .....
The read/write speed to the external card is simply too slow.
The device lags badly for me .......do you see the lag issue ???
Maybe it's my device ....g
Anyone remember when RAM on PCs were a premium and virtual memory was a big deal? Virtual memory was horrible back then. There is no reason to think it would be a better idea now.
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Ahhhh, those were the days. lol
redeuxx said:
Anyone remember when RAM on PCs were a premium and virtual memory was a big deal? Virtual memory was horrible back then. There is no reason to think it would be a better idea now.
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I remember them...back on Windows 3.5 I think. Or maybe even before that. It was all the rage for a very short time. I was just happy to have a hard drive instead of a 5 1/4" floppy.

Check out the new phone

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/13/htc-droid-dna-verizon/
WOW... nice phone! Is it a world phone? I saw GSM on the last paragraph, hoping someone can clarify whether this would work on t mobil
Edit: according to this article it is using the quad core pro chip... I read elsewhere it was using the dual core s4 processor. But I agree esp. If using the quad core chip this looks pretty solid
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meh. I'll be waiting for something with a removable battery and micro SD. I just can't be bothered to spend that kind of cash and get something that could get a pooched battery, then what? Besides, nothing beats having a fresh battery. I've been through 4 already with my amaze, which is inconvenient, so what do you do with one that's out of warranty and you get battery issues?
1080p screen 5" screen + HTC phone + LTE + 2020 mAh non replaceable battery = a phone that will barely get you through your work day, if even that.
avogadr0 said:
1080p screen 5" screen + HTC phone + LTE + 2020 mAh non replaceable battery = a phone that will barely get you through your work day, if even that.
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Would be a game changer if it were a Nexus though.
yo2boy said:
Would be a game changer if it were a Nexus though.
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Truly a game changer with a battery you can replace and the ability to add memory. No micro SD / no removable battery = Sad phone
yo2boy said:
Would be a game changer if it were a Nexus though.
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The lack of an SD card slot is really the only downside of the new Nexus 4. Truly a tragedy...
Whats up with these companies removing the sd card slot wth
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EclipzeRemix said:
Whats up with these companies removing the sd card slot wth
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Google doesn't like SD cards, so I guess other Android OEMs are following too. Read this: http://androidcommunity.com/googles...s-lack-of-sd-cards-in-nexus-devices-20121030/
I'm happy to hear that the Nexus 4 DOES support USB OTG so I can always plug in my external hard drive or flash drive to the phone.
EclipzeRemix said:
Whats up with these companies removing the sd card slot wth
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HTC is doing it because they think people care more about how thin the phone is. That's y they got rid of sd card slots and removable batteries
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yo2boy said:
Google doesn't like SD cards, so I guess other Android OEMs are following too. Read this: http://androidcommunity.com/googles...s-lack-of-sd-cards-in-nexus-devices-20121030/
I'm happy to hear that the Nexus 4 DOES support USB OTG so I can always plug in my external hard drive or flash drive to the phone.
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I added this comment there. I'm baffled by that reasoning...
"If someone can figure out how to connect a Nexus device to their PC using a USB, then I'm fairly certain they wouldn't not suddenly become overwhelmed by this "fandangled device" called an external SD card.
They weren't too complicated for people to use in their cameras, and they even had them in their PCs.
You know what's more complicated? Pairing a Bluetooth device, or NFC and yet these technologies remain persistent....
An SD card, you simply pop it in the slot, and if they don't know it's there, then they're not going to lose sleep over it. No settings pop ups, no panic."
It's a cop out to not include them. And there is more motivation to pay for the higher memory device. It's too bad and on occasion I'm sure the normal user doesn't know which one it is saved to... Why not have the slot, but not include a card. That way those who find the concept 'complicated' don't have to bother with purchasing one and others can... Oh well Google, you're crazy!
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no kidding. Just briefly looking up the crapple 5, going from 16 to 32 costs you $100, and from 32 to 64 another $100. You can get a 32gig micro sd for $30, there goes their 'profit'.
All it takes is one manufacturer to see what the rest are doing, and offer the feature that people demand, and sell a ton of devices.
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no kidding. Just briefly looking up the crapple 5, going from 16 to 32 costs you $100, and from 32 to 64 another $100. You can get a 32gig micro sd for $30, there goes their 'profit'.
All it takes is one manufacturer to see what the rest are doing, and offer the feature that people demand, and sell a ton of devices.
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Like Samsung? Galaxy s iii/note 2 anyone? =)
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lorddart said:
Like Samsung? Galaxy s iii/note 2 anyone? =)
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Thank you!
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