If i root my galaxy s3 can i update fw using kies? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?

nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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you wont be able to update, no and also this is the wrong section should be in q&a

nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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OTA update usually fails to install .
Kies may update if it sees correct codes but as you are modify phone it may not .
You would be beter reading the faqs and guides first .
jje

JJEgan said:
OTA update usually fails to install .
Kies may update if it sees correct codes but as you are modify phone it may not .
You would be beter reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
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Then if i want to update with kies i need to unroot and it will be ok?

nucelom said:
Then if i want to update with kies i need to unroot and it will be ok?
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no, you'll have to decrease the binary counter with Triangle Away (requires root), then you can flash a stock ROM with Odin.
please, before you do anything stupid, read a TUTORIAL, because everything i'm saing is extremely superficial!

Why would you root then throw away all the benefits of being rooted by installing official updates?
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nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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You don't have to use big letters on us! We can read! Now, since you shouted at us, I'll be shouting back. No, you can't! You should stop using Kies anyway! It's cr*p!

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[Q] Can I Update after rooting ?

I'm asking if I have rooted my phone , can I update my phone with Offical Updates using Samsung Kies in future?!
Yes you can, but you'll need to root it again after updated.
Kies will tell you you can't. You'd have to do that through odin.
prodygee said:
Kies will tell you you can't. You'd have to do that through odin.
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Why is that so? I have upgraded from rooted KE8 to KF3 via Kies. Kies won't detect your phone if it is rooted or not as long as you are on Stock ROM. Although, it's a different story if you are on a Custom ROM.
Regards.

Software update

I have just received a notification to update software. I downloaded the update & phone booted into recovery but failed to install update.
Could that be because I have rooted the device ? what is the solution for this ?
Because of the root you can't update normally. I'm not sure if you can take the update what your phone downloaded and flash it yourself.
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An option is to choose a custom ROM and follow its updates as they will most likely include important updates in their future versions.
You can only update with kies as your rooted, root will removed after update so you will have to re install.
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Motogp1 said:
You can only update with kies as your rooted, root will removed after update so you will have to re install.
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Do I need to install stock rom of just stop after the changes done by Triangle Away ? I am running the stock rom that shipped with the device but I rooted it......all I want now is to unroot to be able to install genuine software updates
yassero said:
Do I need to install stock rom of just stop after the changes done by Triangle Away ? I am running the stock rom that shipped with the device but I rooted it......all I want now is to unroot to be able to install genuine software updates
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The only thing stopping you installing these updates is the custom recovery, not root itself. You could use mobile ODIN to flash a stock recovery from a stock rom, and then you can get official updates.
Or like many on here, just wait for word on a new update, download it from Sam Mobile and use ODIN (or mobile ODIN) to flash
Lennyuk said:
The only thing stopping you installing these updates is the custom recovery, not root itself. You could use mobile ODIN to flash a stock recovery from a stock rom, and then you can get official updates.
Or like many on here, just wait for word on a new update, download it from Sam Mobile and use ODIN (or mobile ODIN) to flash
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I was rooted with Chainfire. All I wanted was OTA updates.
Very simply update your phone with the latest chainfire root - 6.4 i believe (just install over the existing chainfire if this is how you're rooted). Install the OTA's. Reflash again with 6.4 and you'll have your up to date OTA's and rooted. All took 10 minutes
corkie1 said:
I was rooted with Chainfire. All I wanted was OTA updates.
Very simply update your phone with the latest chainfire root - 6.4 i believe (just install over the existing chainfire if this is how you're rooted). Install the OTA's. Reflash again with 6.4 and you'll have your up to date OTA's and rooted. All took 10 minutes
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I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ? on sammobile, they have the updates integrated in a ROM.
yassero said:
I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
6.4 has been reconfigured thats why .
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ?
use CHECKFUS to download and flash vai ODIN .
jje
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JJEgan said:
yassero said:
I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
6.4 has been reconfigured thats why .
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ?
use CHECKFUS to download and flash vai ODIN .
jje
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perfect solution.....will help on future updates
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My SGS3 is rooted. I just recieved an OTA update. But...!

The device will reboot to recovery mode (CWM) and do nothing.
I'm guessing the CWM is the problem here.
Is there any safe solution for this? I don't want to wipe or backup or anything if possible.
Is there a way to just reverse the root?
ICS 4.0.4
Baseband version: I9300XXLF2
Build number: IMM76D.I9300XXALF2
Thanks for the help.
Just make the update with kies and reflash root with odin after update
Mopral said:
Just make the update with kies and reflash root with odin after update
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Thank you.
How do I update firmware on Kies? I looked everywhere for the upgrade firmware option. Can I do it over wifi?
malcolmy said:
Thank you.
How do I update firmware on Kies? I looked everywhere for the upgrade firmware option. Can I do it over wifi?
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Samsung .com support software Kies
Download Kies and install on PC .
jje
JJEgan said:
Samsung .com support software Kies
Download Kies and install on PC .
jje
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No, I have Kies and I use. I just can't find the upgrade option.
For christ`s sake choose, if you want root forget about Samsung or stick with Samsung and forget about XDA. You can`t have it both ways :silly:
gee2012 said:
For christ`s sake choose, if you want root forget about Samsung or stick with Samsung and forget about XDA. You can`t have it both ways :silly:
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Please come back again when you can read. My problem is definitely not with rooting.
I'm having an issue with upgrading the firmware through the phone.
I would like to listen to you when you get off your high horse.
malcolmy said:
Please come back again when you can read. My problem is definitely not with rooting.
I'm having an issue with upgrading the firmware through the phone.
I would like to listen to you when you get off your high horse.
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If you are rooted and you want to keep root delete FotaClient.apk and FWUpgrade.apk.in system/apps, you will not be bothered then with OTA`s.. For upgrades go to www.sammobile.com/firmware and flash the rom you downloaded with Odin v3 3.0.4.and reroot afterwards or flash with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root. See item 2 and 3 of my signature. Cheers mate from my high horse
malcolmy said:
No, I have Kies and I use. I just can't find the upgrade option.
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You cannot find the upgrade option in Kies ?????
Reinstall Kies may help .
OR their is no upgrade offered by Kies ????
or Kies says no upgrade for this phone .
jje
malcolmy said:
Please come back again when you can read. My problem is definitely not with rooting.
I'm having an issue with upgrading the firmware through the phone.
I would like to listen to you when you get off your high horse.
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OTA update works with ClockworkMod Touch Recovery v6.0.1.4 (http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager)
It will fail signature validation and then give you an option to install anyway...
malcolmy said:
The device will reboot to recovery mode (CWM) and do nothing.
I'm guessing the CWM is the problem here.
Is there any safe solution for this? I don't want to wipe or backup or anything if possible.
Is there a way to just reverse the root?
ICS 4.0.4
Baseband version: I9300XXLF2
Build number: IMM76D.I9300XXALF2
Thanks for the help.
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Well, you obviously can't flash a stock FOTA with CWM, you need a stock recovery (Don't know why) and then you can flash FOTAs..
Try flashing firmware using Kies, or downloading it from http://sammobile.com/firmware and flash it with Odin. Both will work

is it safe?

hi XDA! just want to ask is it safe to update if your rooted s3 via kies? will it be unroot your device? or does it affect it in such way? thanks more power!
Sv: is it safe?
silvercold said:
hi XDA! just want to ask is it safe to update if your rooted s3 via kies? will it be unroot your device? or does it affect it in such way? thanks more power!
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You can't update any rooted / superuser modified phones thru Kies.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
You can't update any rooted / superuser modified phones thru Kies.
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As long as the ROM & CSC are correct you can update a rooted phone through Kies, as far as I am not wrong, whereas you will loose root and have to re-root. What is not working is the OTA update if you are rooted.
Hence the easiest solution is to download the ROM via sammobile or XDA and flash it via Odin or better Mobile Odin (to keep root).
Sv: is it safe?
chrismast said:
As long as the ROM & CSC are correct you can update a rooted phone through Kies, as far as I am not wrong, whereas you will loose root and have to re-root. What is not working is the OTA update if you are rooted.
Hence the easiest solution is to download the ROM via sammobile or XDA and flash it via Odin or better Mobile Odin (to keep root).
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No, you can't. I've tried myself and it doesn't work.
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Yes, you can update a rooted phone through Kies as long as the csc is correct. You will lose root though, but other than that it's safe.
thanks guys for immediate response.I think i will just use odin to maintained rooted. my only problem is i am not sure what guide to use and which is safer? although i research myself through i am just confused so many guides in using odin. my phone is GT - I9300 android version 4.1.1 with a baseband ver: i9300XXDLIB. i just want to update this to 4.1.2 if possible via odin to maintain rooted. If you guys can help me out which guide to follow that will maintain rooted and safe that will be much appreciated!
thanks a lot!
silvercold said:
thanks guys for immediate response.I think i will just use odin to maintained rooted. my only problem is i am not sure what guide to use and which is safer? although i research myself through i am just confused so many guides in using odin. my phone is GT - I9300 android version 4.1.1 with a baseband ver: i9300XXDLIB. i just want to update this to 4.1.2 if possible via odin to maintain rooted. If you guys can help me out which guide to follow that will maintain rooted and safe that will be much appreciated!
thanks a lot!
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As I mentioned, Mobile Odin is the easiest way as you just select the rom and it flashes incl. root injection. For Odin, simply download the rom you would like to flash (e.g. stock rom from sammobile or prerooted from XDA's general section), and follow the usual steps (e.g. there are easy videos to follow on YouTube & there are many guides in the general section). If you chose to flash a rom that is not yet rooted you will need to flash CF-Auto-Root of CF-Root again.
chrismast said:
As I mentioned, Mobile Odin is the easiest way as you just select the rom and it flashes incl. root injection. For Odin, simply download the rom you would like to flash (e.g. stock rom from sammobile or prerooted from XDA's general section), and follow the usual steps (e.g. there are easy videos to follow on YouTube & there are many guides in the general section). If you chose to flash a rom that is not yet rooted you will need to flash CF-Auto-Root of CF-Root again.
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got it! another question if you don't mind, can i use stock rom using odin without unrooting my device? some people say that if you try to flash your device with official stock rom might unroot phone? is this true or just using odin will prevent your phone from unrooting? no matter what rom you would use. thanks in advance!
silvercold said:
got it! another question if you don't mind, can i use stock rom using odin without unrooting my device? some people say that if you try to flash your device with official stock rom might unroot phone? is this true or just using odin will prevent your phone from unrooting? no matter what rom you would use. thanks in advance!
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there are two ways:
(1) Odin (desktop version): if you flash a stock rom (normal version, not rooted), it will be not rooted, hence you have to root again
(2) Mobile Odin (Adroid Play Store): if you flash a stock rom (normal version, not rooted), you have an option to inject root and directly root it in the process of flashing the rom
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I see, the mobile odin i guess is suited for me. since i dont want to unroot my device i just want to update it.
you can always reroot it afterwards. Or better yet, flash a prerooted ROM

Rooting and OTA via KIES

I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
Aditya Keri said:
I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
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OTA (over the air) is not equal to KIES. If rooted you will be able to get updates via KIES but you will loose root. OTA won't work if rooted.
chrismast said:
OTA (over the air) is not equal to KIES. If rooted you will be able to get updates via KIES but you will loose root. OTA won't work if rooted.
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That was not what I asked and moreover, I've mentioned what you said in my post above.
I want to know if I can install those small updates from Kies (which usually arrive on OTA) on my rooted phone without any problem, provided I don't install any custom ROM, kernel or other flashable mods?
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Aditya Keri said:
That was not what I asked and moreover, I've mentioned what you said in my post above.
I want to know if I can install those small updates from Kies (which usually arrive on OTA) on my rooted phone without any problem, provided I don't install any custom ROM, kernel or other flashable mods?
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sorry, maybe I missunderstood but what you said:
I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies
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is not possible as OTA updates are not coming via KIES but via "over the air", hence my short explaination beforehand.
and again, if rooted OTA won't work, as you know, whereas updates coming via KIES will work.
Aditya Keri said:
I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
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Two different updates OTA is often smaller and is not the same as Kies as Kies replaces firmware in full OTA just updates it .

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