I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
Aditya Keri said:
I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
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OTA (over the air) is not equal to KIES. If rooted you will be able to get updates via KIES but you will loose root. OTA won't work if rooted.
chrismast said:
OTA (over the air) is not equal to KIES. If rooted you will be able to get updates via KIES but you will loose root. OTA won't work if rooted.
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That was not what I asked and moreover, I've mentioned what you said in my post above.
I want to know if I can install those small updates from Kies (which usually arrive on OTA) on my rooted phone without any problem, provided I don't install any custom ROM, kernel or other flashable mods?
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Aditya Keri said:
That was not what I asked and moreover, I've mentioned what you said in my post above.
I want to know if I can install those small updates from Kies (which usually arrive on OTA) on my rooted phone without any problem, provided I don't install any custom ROM, kernel or other flashable mods?
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sorry, maybe I missunderstood but what you said:
I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies
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is not possible as OTA updates are not coming via KIES but via "over the air", hence my short explaination beforehand.
and again, if rooted OTA won't work, as you know, whereas updates coming via KIES will work.
Aditya Keri said:
I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
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Two different updates OTA is often smaller and is not the same as Kies as Kies replaces firmware in full OTA just updates it .
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Hi I've rooted my phone and when I try to apply the firmware update it doesn't allow me to do it (goes into CWM boot mode instead). Anyone know what I"m doing wrong? Also once I upgrade the firmware.. can I still root my phone?
Thanks in advance for the help
alextn99 said:
Hi I've rooted my phone and when I try to apply the firmware update it doesn't allow me to do it (goes into CWM boot mode instead). Anyone know what I"m doing wrong? Also once I upgrade the firmware.. can I still root my phone?
Thanks in advance for the help
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You cant install ota on a rooted device, only on stock firmware
you need to find the update for cwm and download, then flash it
Latest Chainfire root is supposed to allow OTA updates .
But the OTA update will of course break root and you will need to reroot .
jje
thx works now
JJEgan said:
Latest Chainfire root is supposed to allow OTA updates .
But the OTA update will of course break root and you will need to reroot .
jje
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Confirmed, latest CF root let you update. but root and all modifications disappeared include custom kernel if you have one. and some apps might need to be reinstall.
Just updated my phone and lost all modifications and root, setting it back now.
I have just received a notification to update software. I downloaded the update & phone booted into recovery but failed to install update.
Could that be because I have rooted the device ? what is the solution for this ?
Because of the root you can't update normally. I'm not sure if you can take the update what your phone downloaded and flash it yourself.
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An option is to choose a custom ROM and follow its updates as they will most likely include important updates in their future versions.
You can only update with kies as your rooted, root will removed after update so you will have to re install.
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Motogp1 said:
You can only update with kies as your rooted, root will removed after update so you will have to re install.
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Do I need to install stock rom of just stop after the changes done by Triangle Away ? I am running the stock rom that shipped with the device but I rooted it......all I want now is to unroot to be able to install genuine software updates
yassero said:
Do I need to install stock rom of just stop after the changes done by Triangle Away ? I am running the stock rom that shipped with the device but I rooted it......all I want now is to unroot to be able to install genuine software updates
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The only thing stopping you installing these updates is the custom recovery, not root itself. You could use mobile ODIN to flash a stock recovery from a stock rom, and then you can get official updates.
Or like many on here, just wait for word on a new update, download it from Sam Mobile and use ODIN (or mobile ODIN) to flash
Lennyuk said:
The only thing stopping you installing these updates is the custom recovery, not root itself. You could use mobile ODIN to flash a stock recovery from a stock rom, and then you can get official updates.
Or like many on here, just wait for word on a new update, download it from Sam Mobile and use ODIN (or mobile ODIN) to flash
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I was rooted with Chainfire. All I wanted was OTA updates.
Very simply update your phone with the latest chainfire root - 6.4 i believe (just install over the existing chainfire if this is how you're rooted). Install the OTA's. Reflash again with 6.4 and you'll have your up to date OTA's and rooted. All took 10 minutes
corkie1 said:
I was rooted with Chainfire. All I wanted was OTA updates.
Very simply update your phone with the latest chainfire root - 6.4 i believe (just install over the existing chainfire if this is how you're rooted). Install the OTA's. Reflash again with 6.4 and you'll have your up to date OTA's and rooted. All took 10 minutes
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I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ? on sammobile, they have the updates integrated in a ROM.
yassero said:
I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
6.4 has been reconfigured thats why .
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ?
use CHECKFUS to download and flash vai ODIN .
jje
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JJEgan said:
yassero said:
I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
6.4 has been reconfigured thats why .
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ?
use CHECKFUS to download and flash vai ODIN .
jje
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perfect solution.....will help on future updates
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Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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you wont be able to update, no and also this is the wrong section should be in q&a
nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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OTA update usually fails to install .
Kies may update if it sees correct codes but as you are modify phone it may not .
You would be beter reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
JJEgan said:
OTA update usually fails to install .
Kies may update if it sees correct codes but as you are modify phone it may not .
You would be beter reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
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Then if i want to update with kies i need to unroot and it will be ok?
nucelom said:
Then if i want to update with kies i need to unroot and it will be ok?
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no, you'll have to decrease the binary counter with Triangle Away (requires root), then you can flash a stock ROM with Odin.
please, before you do anything stupid, read a TUTORIAL, because everything i'm saing is extremely superficial!
Why would you root then throw away all the benefits of being rooted by installing official updates?
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nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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You don't have to use big letters on us! We can read! Now, since you shouted at us, I'll be shouting back. No, you can't! You should stop using Kies anyway! It's cr*p!
A very quick clarification needed :
I'm running 4.1.2. Want to root in order to remove the bloatware so that I can increase free ram and hence the overall performance. I won't install any custom ROMs, kernels or any mods. Just remove bloatware for the above reason.
After I root my phone, when the official 4.3 firmware for my country(India) releases, if I flash it via Odin, will the root go away ? And also, is flashing via Odin and 4.3 OTA the same in terms of the performance/battery/stability issues of the phone? I mean, can I just root now and flash the official 4.3 later or just wait for the OTA?
Aditya Keri said:
A very quick clarification needed :
I'm running 4.1.2. Want to root in order to remove the bloatware so that I can increase free ram and hence the overall performance. I won't install any custom ROMs, kernels or any mods. Just remove bloatware for the above reason.
After I root my phone, when the official 4.3 firmware for my country(India) releases, if I flash it via Odin, will the root go away ? And also, is flashing via Odin and 4.3 OTA the same in terms of the performance/battery/stability issues of the phone? I mean, can I just root now and flash the official 4.3 later or just wait for the OTA?
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Hello buddy I'm from India too.
Just root the phone and when 4.3 comes out just flash it via odin and that will remove root. If you use ODIN no need to OTA.
Also if you cant wait like me you can install 4.3 ML2 rom via odin too.
Iqbal Ansari said:
Hello buddy I'm from India too.
Just root the phone and when 4.3 comes out just flash it via odin and that will remove root. If you use ODIN no need to OTA.
Also if you cant wait like me you can install 4.3 ML2 rom via odin too.
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But updating any firmware using OTA is better or flashing it via odin is better? I feel OTA is more safe, it won't have any negative consequences. And flashing it via odin might have few negative consequences on the stability. Is it true?!
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Anyone?!
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Aditya Keri said:
But updating any firmware using OTA is better or flashing it via odin is better? I feel OTA is more safe, it won't have any negative consequences. And flashing it via odin might have few negative consequences on the stability. Is it true?!
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Are you kidding.
Infact odin is a better way to update.
Its completely safe go for it.
Hey.
My first Sony device. Have been reading about z2 in forums for some days.
I had my device D6503 on 4.4.2 Nordic and now rooted with easy tool and working.
However I get ota update notifications from Sony update center and I assume it is an 4.4.4 update.
How do I update without losing root access. I must have root because of adaway and some other apps.
This seem some different from Galaxy devices and tools used for that matter. Z2 is a fantastic device tho.
Do I need to download latest firmware from another thread that I found in this forum which collects stock ones, and use flashtool.net to flash firmware? In case, what option to thick when beginning to keep root whilst it updates? And if I can keep apps data? Maybe titanium to back up, if only choice.
If some one could send me to the right direction, as I wasn't able to find what I was looking for.
Takk you
The easiest way is install recovery, download 4.4.4 rooted zip from development section and flash the zip through recovery.
o0 Matt 0o said:
The easiest way is install recovery, download 4.4.4 rooted zip from development section and flash the zip through recovery.
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Thanks mate, but I want stock rom. There were only custom roms there I found.
There is no like mobile odin method or something that flashs and keeps the root? Or ota survival mod?
Thanks
kenny1991 said:
Thanks mate, but I want stock rom. There were only custom roms there I found.
There is no like mobile odin method or something that flashs and keeps the root? Or ota survival mod?
Thanks
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Some superuser apps have ota survival but some people are having issues mounting system after the update.
This is a stock rom only rooted with recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929402
Also, this tells you how to create a rooted update package yourself http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2933155