A very quick clarification needed :
I'm running 4.1.2. Want to root in order to remove the bloatware so that I can increase free ram and hence the overall performance. I won't install any custom ROMs, kernels or any mods. Just remove bloatware for the above reason.
After I root my phone, when the official 4.3 firmware for my country(India) releases, if I flash it via Odin, will the root go away ? And also, is flashing via Odin and 4.3 OTA the same in terms of the performance/battery/stability issues of the phone? I mean, can I just root now and flash the official 4.3 later or just wait for the OTA?
Aditya Keri said:
A very quick clarification needed :
I'm running 4.1.2. Want to root in order to remove the bloatware so that I can increase free ram and hence the overall performance. I won't install any custom ROMs, kernels or any mods. Just remove bloatware for the above reason.
After I root my phone, when the official 4.3 firmware for my country(India) releases, if I flash it via Odin, will the root go away ? And also, is flashing via Odin and 4.3 OTA the same in terms of the performance/battery/stability issues of the phone? I mean, can I just root now and flash the official 4.3 later or just wait for the OTA?
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Hello buddy I'm from India too.
Just root the phone and when 4.3 comes out just flash it via odin and that will remove root. If you use ODIN no need to OTA.
Also if you cant wait like me you can install 4.3 ML2 rom via odin too.
Iqbal Ansari said:
Hello buddy I'm from India too.
Just root the phone and when 4.3 comes out just flash it via odin and that will remove root. If you use ODIN no need to OTA.
Also if you cant wait like me you can install 4.3 ML2 rom via odin too.
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But updating any firmware using OTA is better or flashing it via odin is better? I feel OTA is more safe, it won't have any negative consequences. And flashing it via odin might have few negative consequences on the stability. Is it true?!
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Anyone?!
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Aditya Keri said:
But updating any firmware using OTA is better or flashing it via odin is better? I feel OTA is more safe, it won't have any negative consequences. And flashing it via odin might have few negative consequences on the stability. Is it true?!
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Are you kidding.
Infact odin is a better way to update.
Its completely safe go for it.
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I have just received a notification to update software. I downloaded the update & phone booted into recovery but failed to install update.
Could that be because I have rooted the device ? what is the solution for this ?
Because of the root you can't update normally. I'm not sure if you can take the update what your phone downloaded and flash it yourself.
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An option is to choose a custom ROM and follow its updates as they will most likely include important updates in their future versions.
You can only update with kies as your rooted, root will removed after update so you will have to re install.
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Motogp1 said:
You can only update with kies as your rooted, root will removed after update so you will have to re install.
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Do I need to install stock rom of just stop after the changes done by Triangle Away ? I am running the stock rom that shipped with the device but I rooted it......all I want now is to unroot to be able to install genuine software updates
yassero said:
Do I need to install stock rom of just stop after the changes done by Triangle Away ? I am running the stock rom that shipped with the device but I rooted it......all I want now is to unroot to be able to install genuine software updates
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The only thing stopping you installing these updates is the custom recovery, not root itself. You could use mobile ODIN to flash a stock recovery from a stock rom, and then you can get official updates.
Or like many on here, just wait for word on a new update, download it from Sam Mobile and use ODIN (or mobile ODIN) to flash
Lennyuk said:
The only thing stopping you installing these updates is the custom recovery, not root itself. You could use mobile ODIN to flash a stock recovery from a stock rom, and then you can get official updates.
Or like many on here, just wait for word on a new update, download it from Sam Mobile and use ODIN (or mobile ODIN) to flash
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I was rooted with Chainfire. All I wanted was OTA updates.
Very simply update your phone with the latest chainfire root - 6.4 i believe (just install over the existing chainfire if this is how you're rooted). Install the OTA's. Reflash again with 6.4 and you'll have your up to date OTA's and rooted. All took 10 minutes
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I was rooted with Chainfire. All I wanted was OTA updates.
Very simply update your phone with the latest chainfire root - 6.4 i believe (just install over the existing chainfire if this is how you're rooted). Install the OTA's. Reflash again with 6.4 and you'll have your up to date OTA's and rooted. All took 10 minutes
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I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ? on sammobile, they have the updates integrated in a ROM.
yassero said:
I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
6.4 has been reconfigured thats why .
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ?
use CHECKFUS to download and flash vai ODIN .
jje
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JJEgan said:
yassero said:
I am rooted with CF v6.1 & whenever phone reboots to recovery to install updates it fails. Why would it work with v6.4 ?!
6.4 has been reconfigured thats why .
is there a way I can download the updates only on the PC & flash them with oden ?
use CHECKFUS to download and flash vai ODIN .
jje
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perfect solution.....will help on future updates
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I was rooted with stock 4.0.3 and unrooted so I could do the OTA update. Now, unrooted, TWRP is interruping the OTA update on the install. How can I remove TWRP?
Thanks!
You aren't fully unrooted.
Also, I would highly suggest just flashing the updated ROM. You should never unroot in order to take an ota and then reroot
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Rxpert said:
You aren't fully unrooted.
Also, I would highly suggest just flashing the updated ROM. You should never unroot in order to take an ota and then reroot
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I've read mixed opinions on this. Many Dev's have said just to unroot using the TWRP, then install the OTA, which is what I tried, and now TWRP opens up in the install process. As far as still being rooted, I cannot do anything that requires root, so I assume I am unrooted.
I prefer to OTA update. I've had too many issues with updated rooted ROM's in the past, so I would rather not flash a ROM.
I dont think removing twrp will do anything for you. You need the stock recovery to flash an OTA. You would need to RUU to stock after relocking your BL and then take the OTA if thats what you wanna do. Unless there is a stock recovery floating around to flash in twrp. In the past for every phone I have every tried you need the stock recovery to flash the OTA update.
aschlect said:
I've read mixed opinions on this. Many Dev's have said just to unroot using the TWRP, then install the OTA, which is what I tried, and now TWRP opens up in the install process. As far as still being rooted, I cannot do anything that requires root, so I assume I am unrooted.
I prefer to OTA update. I've had too many issues with updated rooted ROM's in the past, so I would rather not flash a ROM.
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Bad idea. What Roms are you using? There are fully stock rooted Roms available that the only difference is they are rooted. That is the only coding or programming difference. You are spending a lot of time dong something that doesn't need to be done. You can get everything you need from a stock odexed rooted ROM. Plus you having to wipe the slate clean on your phone each time there is an ota.
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aschlect said:
I was rooted with stock 4.0.3 and unrooted so I could do the OTA update. Now, unrooted, TWRP is interruping the OTA update on the install. How can I remove TWRP?
Thanks!
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Nobody is answering your question because they don't want you to unroot...smh
Just flash the stock recovery. Make sure that first you're on an odexed ROM, then flash the stock recovery, then search for the OTA update and install it.
ms79723 said:
Nobody is answering your question because they don't want you to unroot...smh
Just flash the stock recovery. Make sure that first you're on an odexed ROM, then flash the stock recovery, then search for the OTA update and install it.
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Know anywhere I can find the stock recovery? I'll have to go back and re-root the phone as well, since I am unrooted at this point.
aschlect said:
Know anywhere I can find the stock recovery? I'll have to go back and re-root the phone as well, since I am unrooted at this point.
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If I were you I would just ruu it.
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hi XDA! just want to ask is it safe to update if your rooted s3 via kies? will it be unroot your device? or does it affect it in such way? thanks more power!
Sv: is it safe?
silvercold said:
hi XDA! just want to ask is it safe to update if your rooted s3 via kies? will it be unroot your device? or does it affect it in such way? thanks more power!
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You can't update any rooted / superuser modified phones thru Kies.
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Destroyedbeauty said:
You can't update any rooted / superuser modified phones thru Kies.
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As long as the ROM & CSC are correct you can update a rooted phone through Kies, as far as I am not wrong, whereas you will loose root and have to re-root. What is not working is the OTA update if you are rooted.
Hence the easiest solution is to download the ROM via sammobile or XDA and flash it via Odin or better Mobile Odin (to keep root).
Sv: is it safe?
chrismast said:
As long as the ROM & CSC are correct you can update a rooted phone through Kies, as far as I am not wrong, whereas you will loose root and have to re-root. What is not working is the OTA update if you are rooted.
Hence the easiest solution is to download the ROM via sammobile or XDA and flash it via Odin or better Mobile Odin (to keep root).
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No, you can't. I've tried myself and it doesn't work.
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Yes, you can update a rooted phone through Kies as long as the csc is correct. You will lose root though, but other than that it's safe.
thanks guys for immediate response.I think i will just use odin to maintained rooted. my only problem is i am not sure what guide to use and which is safer? although i research myself through i am just confused so many guides in using odin. my phone is GT - I9300 android version 4.1.1 with a baseband ver: i9300XXDLIB. i just want to update this to 4.1.2 if possible via odin to maintain rooted. If you guys can help me out which guide to follow that will maintain rooted and safe that will be much appreciated!
thanks a lot!
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thanks guys for immediate response.I think i will just use odin to maintained rooted. my only problem is i am not sure what guide to use and which is safer? although i research myself through i am just confused so many guides in using odin. my phone is GT - I9300 android version 4.1.1 with a baseband ver: i9300XXDLIB. i just want to update this to 4.1.2 if possible via odin to maintain rooted. If you guys can help me out which guide to follow that will maintain rooted and safe that will be much appreciated!
thanks a lot!
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As I mentioned, Mobile Odin is the easiest way as you just select the rom and it flashes incl. root injection. For Odin, simply download the rom you would like to flash (e.g. stock rom from sammobile or prerooted from XDA's general section), and follow the usual steps (e.g. there are easy videos to follow on YouTube & there are many guides in the general section). If you chose to flash a rom that is not yet rooted you will need to flash CF-Auto-Root of CF-Root again.
chrismast said:
As I mentioned, Mobile Odin is the easiest way as you just select the rom and it flashes incl. root injection. For Odin, simply download the rom you would like to flash (e.g. stock rom from sammobile or prerooted from XDA's general section), and follow the usual steps (e.g. there are easy videos to follow on YouTube & there are many guides in the general section). If you chose to flash a rom that is not yet rooted you will need to flash CF-Auto-Root of CF-Root again.
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got it! another question if you don't mind, can i use stock rom using odin without unrooting my device? some people say that if you try to flash your device with official stock rom might unroot phone? is this true or just using odin will prevent your phone from unrooting? no matter what rom you would use. thanks in advance!
silvercold said:
got it! another question if you don't mind, can i use stock rom using odin without unrooting my device? some people say that if you try to flash your device with official stock rom might unroot phone? is this true or just using odin will prevent your phone from unrooting? no matter what rom you would use. thanks in advance!
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there are two ways:
(1) Odin (desktop version): if you flash a stock rom (normal version, not rooted), it will be not rooted, hence you have to root again
(2) Mobile Odin (Adroid Play Store): if you flash a stock rom (normal version, not rooted), you have an option to inject root and directly root it in the process of flashing the rom
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I see, the mobile odin i guess is suited for me. since i dont want to unroot my device i just want to update it.
you can always reroot it afterwards. Or better yet, flash a prerooted ROM
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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you wont be able to update, no and also this is the wrong section should be in q&a
nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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OTA update usually fails to install .
Kies may update if it sees correct codes but as you are modify phone it may not .
You would be beter reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
JJEgan said:
OTA update usually fails to install .
Kies may update if it sees correct codes but as you are modify phone it may not .
You would be beter reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
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Then if i want to update with kies i need to unroot and it will be ok?
nucelom said:
Then if i want to update with kies i need to unroot and it will be ok?
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no, you'll have to decrease the binary counter with Triangle Away (requires root), then you can flash a stock ROM with Odin.
please, before you do anything stupid, read a TUTORIAL, because everything i'm saing is extremely superficial!
Why would you root then throw away all the benefits of being rooted by installing official updates?
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nucelom said:
Now i have on my international gs3 with stock jb 4.1.2. I want to root it, install cwm and so on because i want to flash a statusbar mod but then does kies still recognise the phone? and can i install updates without problems?
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You don't have to use big letters on us! We can read! Now, since you shouted at us, I'll be shouting back. No, you can't! You should stop using Kies anyway! It's cr*p!
I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
Aditya Keri said:
I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
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OTA (over the air) is not equal to KIES. If rooted you will be able to get updates via KIES but you will loose root. OTA won't work if rooted.
chrismast said:
OTA (over the air) is not equal to KIES. If rooted you will be able to get updates via KIES but you will loose root. OTA won't work if rooted.
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That was not what I asked and moreover, I've mentioned what you said in my post above.
I want to know if I can install those small updates from Kies (which usually arrive on OTA) on my rooted phone without any problem, provided I don't install any custom ROM, kernel or other flashable mods?
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Aditya Keri said:
That was not what I asked and moreover, I've mentioned what you said in my post above.
I want to know if I can install those small updates from Kies (which usually arrive on OTA) on my rooted phone without any problem, provided I don't install any custom ROM, kernel or other flashable mods?
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sorry, maybe I missunderstood but what you said:
I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies
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is not possible as OTA updates are not coming via KIES but via "over the air", hence my short explaination beforehand.
and again, if rooted OTA won't work, as you know, whereas updates coming via KIES will work.
Aditya Keri said:
I want to root my S3 running 4.3 (XWUGML4) only to use few root apps like greenify and remove bloatware to make my phone run faster.
I'm sure I won't be using any custom ROMs, custom Kernels or other flashable zips. I'll use only the root apps.
My question is, Will I be able to update my Rooted phone via Kies without any problem, even if it means losing the root ? I just want to make sure that I receive the latest OTA updates for my region via Kies on my rooted phone.
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Two different updates OTA is often smaller and is not the same as Kies as Kies replaces firmware in full OTA just updates it .