Hi, so I just got my s3 last week and I've been running TFS Shell as my launcher for a bit now and recently it has started reloading TFS Shell when i push the home key from an app, i.e. it says: "TFS Shell is loading" for about 10 seconds. It doesn't do it all the time but regularly enough for it to be quite annoying... I really love the launcher so I don't want to have to shift.
I suspect it might be related to ram usage as this often happens when i'm using quite a few apps or am playing a graphic intensive game. Is my phone seeing TFS as a dormant application and taking resources from it for my other apps? Is there anyway to stop it doing this? Another interesting point is that sometimes in my task manager, it shows apps running twice, i.e. there are 2 facebooks and 2 play stores and 2 angry birds etc. Why would this happen and could this be causing twice the ram usage?
So far I'm loving my shift to android though. Any responses will be much appreciated
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I have read that taskkiller is not necessary on Android as the OS will kill off running apps when it needs memory - what are people's thoughts on this?
Hmmm...I read somewhere (maybe on here) heard if the App is coded properly that when not in use it will be background so not take up memory.
Not too knowledgable, but in that case would imagine they are acting like a windows service so will be taking up memory somewhere....so perhaps what I read was nonsense
Well, I have stopped killing tasks and guess what - I notice no difference at all! Hero is just as speedy (or slow depending on how you wanna look at it!).
Interesting!
Killing truly idle applications wont have significant effect. There are however many applications which appear idle, but still drains resources. An example is Peep, the twitter client, which starts automatically even if there's no twitter account configured. It has some frequent checks that put load on the CPU and thus helps drain power. Killing it adds many hours of standby time.
i'm not using any task manager/killer, did try them for a couple of days, can't really tell the difference, except i was wasting time constantly killing apps :/
suisen said:
i'm not using any task manager/killer, did try them for a couple of days, can't really tell the difference, except i was wasting time constantly killing apps :/
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Ditto... surely there is no need as the OS will kill a unused app if it needs the memory ??? I don't have any problem running any apps one after the other... they just load.
The only lag I get is while the handset starts a widget update, once they are started everything runs slickly.
I found it a little slicker without taskiller. Especially in the use of big apps like copilot or documents2go. It seems to be managing itself pretty well.
Yep. I can report that the phone is working very well without Taskkiller. I have uninstalled it now.
If you are reading this, give it a try for a few days and tell us what you think. You may be pleasantly surprised...
Ditto - I've removed taskiller so I don't get tempted. Surprise surprise, no problems, no lag, etc. Now mostly this is due to removing the clock and people widget, but memory management seems fine after playing many different games and browsing the internet.
I think a benefit to doing this is that you aren't going to get and bizarre problems caused by killing system processes by accident - ie you won't miss alarms or stop receiving email alerts.
Any one else notice their Hero slowing down?
Mine's gotten to the point where it takes a few attempts at even unlocking the home screen....
Yeah, started to put some apps on the phone the first night I had it ( Friday) and when I started 'Sky map' to see what it was like the poor old phone had a major moment and wouldn't do much at all.
I had read up on this so installed taskiller and just killed the app -it was fine after that-
I believe it will be sorted soon, there is a firmware update just about to be released (hopefully) that addresses this issue.
I bought TasKiller Pro, since it lets you have unlimited amounts of Ignored apps. Then I just:
* Go into TasKiller and Ignore TouchFlo, Touch Input, com.htc.dcs (whatever that is, it's always on) and all other apps you don't want to kill when you clean up (Babbler, ConnectBot etc... whatever you fancy)
* Put the TasKiller widget on the desktop next to the TasKiller app icon.
* Whenever I notice a slowdown I just press the widget button and it kills all processes / programs except the ones I've ignored. It immediately speeds up the phone
This isn't an iPhone, this actually lets you start multiple programs at the same time and since the cpu isn't event capable of playing smooth MP4 videos (unless they are 480x360), there isn't a lot to spare.
When I woke up this morning, i made a ConnectBot connection to screen to open irc, surfed a couple of webpages, wrote a couple of mails, started babbler for facebook and eBuddy for MSN and the slowdown on the desktop was visible. When I was done I clicked the TasKiller "Kill all" button and the phone was smooth as butter again.
The moral of the story: If you start a lot of programs at the same time, it WILL slow down the phone. Nothing you can do about it. The iPhone "never" slows down, because it's the equivalent (almost) of a Hero with only one app running at any one time. Given those conditions, the Hero would be just as smooth as the iPhone too!
Still, I hope sincerely for some optimization with the forthcoming update.
You need to look into how the Android OS works.
there are two types of running apps.
Applications and services.
With applications, when you press the home button the application is suspended and can no longer use memory or cpu, Android can reclaim this memory when it needs to.
Second is services, these run in the background. These do use cpu and memory while you are doing other things. So if you have a lot of apps that uses services running then it may slow down.
I have found that usually the slowdown is because when you click home and then suspend the widgets that update are suspended and so when you unsuspend they wake up and start to refresh and that causes the slow down. Tip #1 when clicking home to put the phone into standby dont click standby for about 5 secs and see if it helps.
Hello to all!
I have been browsing the forums for quite some time and now i finally decided to create myself an account, though i don't have enough experience to help most people with android, i do believe that maybe the questions i make might help other people as well.
My first Post and Question would be because of the following problem:
My internet is actually very slow where i am now, and it takes quite some time to download heavy games such as Modern Combat 3, Need for Speed, Mass Effect, and many others around, being so, i usually leave them on background and try to do something as i don't want to just be sitting there staring to the screen, but if i do so, after some time i come back to the app and it simply had stopped downloading, usually gets back to the splash screen, and asks to download it all again, even some apps such as Modern Combat, that keeps an icon in the tray indicating that it is still active behaves like that, or even sometimes instead of stopping the download it rollbacks the progress, once while watching the downloadbar i saw it drop from 220+ mb to about 140mb for no apparent reason and no heavy applications on background.
Do any of you know the answer to this sort of problem?
I would like to add that the app is not sleeping, nor is my device, i have an asus transformer prime tf201 tablet, running ics 4.03, rooted, with the keyboard dock.
And checking from the asus task manager, the programs even on multitasking with games generally don't seem to consume more than half the available ram.
Sorry for the long post and thank you very much for reading!
I understand that apps reserve a certain amount of ram so they can open faster. Everywhere I look it says this is a good thing. If my phone starts to lag, I check active apps. Usually slim to none. Then I clear ram, and 30 Apps close. All of a sudden, phone lightning fast. Then apps reload and phone boggs down again. Since there are no active apps I. Assuming a task killer won't help. I know the more apps I DL the worse my problem will be but I figure the point of having a smartphone is to have toys to play with on it. How can I get my phone to always run just as fast as it does right after I clear the ram? Running blackstar X if it matters.
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I understand that apps reserve a certain amount of ram so they can open faster. Everywhere I look it says this is a good thing. If my phone starts to lag, I check active apps. Usually slim to none. Then I clear ram, and 30 Apps close. All of a sudden, phone lightning fast. Then apps reload and phone boggs down again. Since there are no active apps I. Assuming a task killer won't help. I know the more apps I DL the worse my problem will be but I figure the point of having a smartphone is to have toys to play with on it. How can I get my phone to always run just as fast as it does right after I clear the ram? Running blackstar X if it matters.
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RAM does not take speed, CPU time does. If the apps are sitting in ram, and they are not running then those apps are not taking up any speed. (at least none that you should be able to perceive)
Check other things, remember everything resets when you reboot, so maybe a widget, or the os is running sloppy and causing your slow downs, live wallpaper takes processor cycles also.
Only widget is clockr. No live wallpapers. The time I most notice is bringing up webpages. Go to task manager, ram tab, clear memory and bam no more waiting on a webpage to load. I know I'm not just making it up but everything I research tells me I am.
Planning on buying the 4G model, but I'm a bit worried because it's got only 1GB RAM.
Is it enough? How much RAM is free on boot? Will it slow down/ clear apps if I use FB messenger, reddit, soundcloud and chrome? Not looking at running 5+ apps in the background, so will it do?
For me it is enougth, the only apps with usually the phone closes itself are games, everyone else didnt
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For me it is enougth, the only apps with usually the phone closes itself are games, everyone else didnt
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Do you multitask? How's the performance with 3-4 apps open?
I'm not a big multitasker, but I do cycle through apps a lot. Like I'll browse Facebook, then G+, then Twitter, then some websites, then maybe play a game or two. Even with heavy apps like Facebook and Clash of Clans recently open when I check the RAM I usually have around 34% free, and the phone is not sluggish. The only thing I do a lot is after I'm done with what I did I clear all apps from the recent apps menu. I don't like how 5.x stores so many snapshots of all the things I did. I like the old 4.x way where it only showed what apps you used, and not the exact place. I think if the phone slows down it's because of too many snapshots in the recent apps since it's holding all those in memory. Clear those, and the phone should get snappy again.
With the sotck rom i usually do because it doesnt have the clear all button like CM and it is very responsive and works fine, the unique apps who are disposed of the ram are games basically, firefox for example doesnt and it is a heavy app
I am happy, it is enough fast for me and i played so far everything i want
I am not happy. Usually my phone always have 200MB free ram but it closes simple applications as music players.
I was discussing that in this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2015/help/bug-music-players-suddenly-close-t3114383