Any of the new superphones worth an upgrade - AT&T LG Optimus G

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that the new superphones (OGPro,S4,HTC One) just not knocking your socks off. Am I missing something, or are they just not that much better than the OG.
The ONLY think that I think is neat is the IR blaster, but my google tv handles that for me in my living room at least.

argolfermd said:
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that the new superphones (OGPro,S4,HTC One) just not knocking your socks off. Am I missing something, or are they just not that much better than the OG.
The ONLY think that I think is neat is the IR blaster, but my google tv handles that for me in my living room at least.
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The SoC (600 vs S4 Pro) are essentially the same thing, the 600 is arguably a tweaked S4 Pro, and they use the same GPU. So yeah, IR blasters and cameras are really the only benefit hardware wise.

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The SoC (600 vs S4 Pro) are essentially the same thing, the 600 is arguably a tweaked S4 Pro, and they use the same GPU. So yeah, IR blasters and cameras are really the only benefit hardware wise.
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Looks like it will be another 6 months at least then. Haven't heard of anything coming down the pipe anytime soon either.

I have yet to put my hands on an S4, but one of my friends recently picked up an HT Cone.
The One has a nicer screen. I did a big comparison of screens on my LGOG, my old Inspire, my friend's One, a Note1, and an E4GT all in a line, and the One had the nicest screen by far. (I wish I'd taken pictures) The one Definitely feels like it could take more punishment than the LGOG. There was no discernible difference in speed/smoothness. I didn't get to play much with the camera, but it's certainly nicer. IR Blaster.
If you can get the One on a deal, ****ing Go for it. Otherwise, you'll be just fine on your LGOG.

I chose the LGOG over the HTC One because of the SD card slot. Call me crazy, but I like having my 50somethingGB of music and audio books and still have a good 10+GB seperate onboard for photos and taken video.
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porkchopsandwiches said:
I chose the LGOG over the HTC One because of the SD card slot. Call me crazy, but I like having my 50somethingGB of music and audio books and still have a good 10+GB seperate onboard for photos and taken video.
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This.
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Really there's no difference between APQ8064T and APQ8064; GPU and CPU can be tweaked via something like Kernel Tuner.
Plus, the graphics performance is the same because although the A320 in the LGOG is clocked lower, the Optimus G also only has a 720p screen unlike the One and GS4.
I have seen speculations that the APQ8064AB in the GS4 has increased DMIPS/mHz that brings Krait 300 closer to Cortex-A15 performance. Wonder if it's a different chip altogether?

OGPro is a Note II competitor, so if you dislike the note size....
As for the s4 and One, I've tested both. They outran my mildly tweaked OG, but I wasn't much impressed. My only issue with my OG is some build issues and hardware damage (stuff that was messed up from the factory). It is a fast phone with excellent specs overall, and now with JB, it can still easily hold its own. It feels sturdier than the S4, and it has the capability of more storage than the One (at least on AT&T). The software is much better than sense, even if there are a few more bugs and glitches than Sense. So I would say no, wait for the next wave of flagship phones.
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Just upgraded from an s2 to a lgog.
I loved the HTC one for its sexy case, but no SD card. Same reason for the Nexus 4.
The lgog pro and note 2 are really itneresting, but too expensive.
The S4 is an S3, and I feel that LGOG is a better built phone.
In the end, LGOG was the cheapest upgrade ($150) of the high end phones I viewed. One was something like $250/$300, the notes were $400/$200. For the price, I am getting a quad core, 2 gig ram machine.
No phone there blew my socks off in terms of speeds. To me, phones are fast enough to handle a lot of basic needs smoothly for a long time to come.

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Would you upgrade to an HTC One if it were available to T-Mobile?

Without a doubt, HTC and tmo have released some pretty amazing devices, Sensation, Amaze, Mytouch 4g slide, etc... Now, the One is coming to tmo, would you upgrade to it?
Here's my opinion, apperently, the model Us carriers will get will be dual-core, because apperently LTE is not compatible with quad core CPUs. I think one of the disadvantages of getting the One is that when LTE comes out, we won't be able to use it. But, tmo's 4g is pretty good already. So, would I upgrade? Yes. Hd screen, ICS with sense 4.0, 8mp cam, to take 1080p vids and pics at the same time, pretty good.
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Title is misleading because it is, also yes I will upgrade. I'm very big on photo's and the camera wouldn't be the same on the Amaze, the sensors are outstanding! Smart Flash! Sense 4.0 and way more development because the ones are a world phone! It's faster than the amaze and all benchmark test that i have seen and its running stock! Imagine custom roms! Even thought quadrant itsn't everything! Plus its smaller and thinner. Beats audio integration throughout the whole phone! I know dsp manager is their but i hate opening it all the time. So yes when it comes out I am getting the one s hands down! Also! the one S is dual core so theirs no LTE Problem im pretty sure Tmo will make it so we can use our phones otherwise thats bad marketing. Also a better front camera which will help with video conferencing I can't wait.
One X
Its a very nice phone, definitely some nice minor upgrades over the amaze but to me it isn't worth it. I've decided to stick with the amaze and see what the Galaxy S III has to offer. I want a quad core phone with an Hd screen, I won't settle for something with capacitive buttons(with the amaze as an exception) especially now that android 4.0 supports buttons on the touch screen.
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
TramainM said:
Ikr! Its like the AMD P920 (Quad) and the Intel i5 (Dual) ones Dual ones quad but intel kicks that possessors A**. Plus a lot of apps aren't customized for Multi core anyway.
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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Plus were using phones, a quad core which actually has 5 cores would use more power than the Snapdragon S4. That is why I don't overclock my phones. Unless I can keep the voltage the same. A phone is meant for making calls and to in keep contact with people.
What would you rather have a Core i7 2600 or a FX-8150 which is slower and consumes more power but has 4 more cores?(Which are actually modules but AMD product management sucks and decide to advertise them as eight core processors)
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I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
I know the minute i get an HTC One device, and find a happy home for my amaze, google wallet will be available for the amaze 4g.. With some awesome promo. Not that much of an upgrade. Im perfectly happy with my camera. Not worth it. I have a standard camera for that.
I forgot which Android blog, but I just read about a "reliable" rumor that tmo is gonna get the one x without lte capabilities (ie the international quad-core version, cuz the hspa+ is good enough they say) and it's likely going to be a "G" device - like the G1, G2, etc. which means it'll be vanilla ics.
If this is true I know exactly where every single dev is going...and I'm gonna try my hardest to follow, haha.
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I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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Agreed, not much more to say. Excellent summary, my good man. Haha
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TramainM said:
I have an i7 2600K and 4 Crossfired AMD 6990's and that thing is a power hog, but the possessor isn't a thing with phones.
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You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
ChromeJob said:
I've been following the hands-on reports and such from Barcelona. All I can say is,
Take everything with a grain of salt, the reporters in Barcelona are sometimes getting their facts wrong,
Details about what will be sold in the US are still not finalized,
Real world testing and independent benchmarking of the total package have not happened,
The One S (remember, T-Mo isn't getting the big dog One X) has a smaller battery, it could have even worse battery life issues,....
I'm disappointed in the chronic problems I've had with the Amaze ... I might upgrade if T-Mobile gets tired of supporting my Amaze! But ... I've just read that T-Mo might only offer the "painted" model, not the one with the plasma-anodized aluminum.
I understand the use of the S4 processor is because the LTE radio is integrated in the chip (not a separate component as in the Amaze) ... Euro LTE markets will get the S4 as well.
I understand the Tegra3 is a 4+1 chip, with a "low-power chip" for "sleep mode." Dunno if the S4 has anything comparable. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure the Tegra is better than the S4.... Anyway, AT&T's getting the S4 too, and ... I'm not sure if will be a 32GB or 16GB version of the One X.
The lack of removable battery, and lack of Micro-SD slot, are giving a lot of people concern on AndroidCentral and other Android sites. What good is a hot diggity 1080p video recorder if you only have some subset of 16GB (9GB like our Amaze?) to record with, then have to slowly upload to Dropbox? Humbug.
Also, the screen of the One S is no more higher res than the Amaze. Same size. In fact, the One X and S have a similar body to the Amaze, leading me to think the Amaze was the "first draft" of a design concept.
I think while some media sources are drinking the Kool-Aid and proclaiming the One series as the best thing since integrated circuit chips, my own impression is that both S an X comprise some glaring compromises (size for battery, cool unibody case for user-replaceable memory card).
Would I upgrade? Well ... much was made of the dedicated camera buttons on the Amaze, and guess what's noticeably missing from the One models? I used those buttons all day at the Monterey Bay Aquarium earlier this month....
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It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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newbieandroid said:
You can't crossfire 4 6990's.... I have a Core i7 970 overclocked to 4.6ghz with 2 GTX 470's in SLI overclocked at 825Mhz
It's kind of hard making a quad core more efficient than a dual core when all 4 cores are going to be running constantly without powering off. If anything the HTC One X will have the same amount of battery as the One S. On HTC's website it has the specs and the Battery on the One S is a 1650 mAh and the One X is 1800. The screen on the One S is a Super AMOLED screen which is a major improvement over any of HTC's old screens.
The One X US version is getting a dual core:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/htconex-att#tech-specs
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I put cross fire bridges on the first two and the second two...
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
Snakecharmed said:
ChromeJob expressed it better than I could. Keeping in mind that I'm probably older than the majority of the main demographic here and I consider my phone a tool more than a trendsetter, fashion statement, toy, and so forth, I don't see what's so great about the One S compared to the Amaze.
As I said in another subforum, the HTC One S is HTC's vision of an iPhone that runs ICS. Make key components non-user-removable, wow the press with hype, remove physical buttons (camera), dog it with some of the hardware (VGA FFC), and (likely) charge customers out the ass for it.
Also, while I did say that I don't care to have a phone as a fashion statement, aesthetics still matter in the sense that they could be a tiebreaker in deciding between phones that are otherwise close in specs. The styling of the One S is bland to me.
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+1 all the One S has over the amaze is s4 processor (which i believe is better than t3) dual channel ram, and maybe a slightly better camera. (im sure its just software though)
I will not be upgrading. I can't express how good of a phone the amaze is. Its very unique looking (front maybe looks like a sensation but the back is very nice) it has an amazing build quality, it out preforms my daily tasks. Phone/SMS/Video/Pictures and a game here and there. The Amaze is still a great phone and i believe it will still be a good phone even when T3 and S4 chips come out. Once we achieve S-OFF i think there will be more developers for the amaze.
I dont know how you guys are upgrading so fast. I recently got my Amaze, and this phone just came out in oCtober of last year? not even 6 months ago. It is still a pretty expensive phone. I would rather stick with amaze love the camera and recording buttons, the 2mp front facing camera, the amazing 8Mp camera, and how reliable it is, no dropped calls or anything
I've preordered the HTC One X from Expansys. I have an Amaze and love it (I'm typing this post on it)....but I'm still excited to get the quad core version of the One X...
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I read last night that the X one my come to tmobile as the next G series phone and my be stock Ics!!!
Check it out over here at the rumor farm -
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/sma...e-to-get-stock-android-4-0-and-quad-core-cpu/
Too bad I really needed a new phone in December. Otherwise this was exactly what I was waiting for! O well...
Good thing about owning the amaze is its new enough to where when the new line rolls out, we can sit back for a bit, watch development, and catch it at a better price down the road
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I'm happy with the screen on the Amaze, SuperLCD? I've had a SGS2 owner admit that mine has nicer color, clarity, etc.
newbieandroid said:
It's funny how when people hear that the US version is getting a dual core instead of the quad core people assume it's worse but in fact the Snapdragon S4(Dual Core) is faster than the Tegra 3(Quad Core) and US carriers will be getting a better phone than the UK.
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The one s has a dual core, the overseas version of the one X has a dualcore. I'm not sure about the S4, i hear its nice but what has me leaning to the quadcore is that i hear it has a small core to help save battery?

[Q] HTC One X+ v.s. Sony Xperia T v.s. LG Nexus 4

Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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AdX9170 said:
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
leventccc said:
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
AdX9170 said:
give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
leventccc said:
Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
AdX9170 said:
i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
christoph411 said:
Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.

[Q] Why did you buy the OG over say the S3 or One x/x+?

This isn't the typical, which phone should i buy or why question, i'm doing a project on how important brand recognition is so I'm just really curious if you guys will help. So why did you all buy the OG over the other top phones that were out when you bought it? Also, how important are the manufacturer added features/skins (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? (Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....)
Any responses will be helpful and appreciated
Why lgog?
HTC one x+: lgog has expandable storage and better processor
Galaxy S3: lgog has a better design and better processor
Galaxy Note 2: Size lol
Its way to big ...
And because the lgog is similar to the nexus 4 and I expected some development benefits their and a lot of people have the s3 and I wanted something different
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Compared other phones. The quad core processor, 2GB ram, 16GB internal and 16GB microSD killed the competition for the comparable price of $99. The 4.7" screen is nice, not to big, not to small. The carbon fiber look back was a nice bonus, even though I soon found out the back glass cracks so easily :-/
The overall look and feel of the phone really caught my eye also.
My wife has the S2 and I came from an Infuse, which was a great phone, just wanted something different than Samsung. I had never owned an LG phone...
All in all, I love the phone, especially the performance, the only downfall for me is how easily the back glass broke.
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I bought the OG for a number of reasons:
Price ($99 contract)
Similarity to the Nexus 4 (development!)
Size
Design, it feels/looks like a solid brick.
But, you're doing a project on brand recognition. So I'll focus more on that.
At first, I was skeptical about buying an LG phone. I considered the One X+, and even the iPhone 5 (shudder). I gave LG a shot though because they built the Nexus 4. If it wasn't for the nexus 4, I wouldn't have bought this device. Brand recognition is important, but you gotta give others a chance. :good:
I've had all three of the others and this is by far the best...
One X/X+ has issues with lag, non-expandable storage, poor battery life, but one amazing screen.
S3 is nice, but it does have that over saturated AMOLED screen. The LCD on the LGOG is much better to my horrid eyes. Almost as good as the One X series, but not quite.
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Why lgog?
HTC one x+: lgog has expandable storage and better processor
Galaxy S3: lgog has a better design and better processor
Galaxy Note 2: Size lol
Its way to big ...
And because the lgog is similar to the nexus 4 and I expected some development benefits their and a lot of people have the s3 and I wanted something different
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Compared other phones. The quad core processor, 2GB ram, 16GB internal and 16GB microSD killed the competition for the comparable price of $99. The 4.7" screen is nice, not to big, not to small. The carbon fiber look back was a nice bonus, even though I soon found out the back glass cracks so easily :-/
The overall look and feel of the phone really caught my eye also.
My wife has the S2 and I came from an Infuse, which was a great phone, just wanted something different than Samsung. I had never owned an LG phone...
All in all, I love the phone, especially the performance, the only downfall for me is how easily the back glass broke.
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I bought the OG for a number of reasons:
Price ($99 contract)
Similarity to the Nexus 4 (development!)
Size
Design, it feels/looks like a solid brick.
But, you're doing a project on brand recognition. So I'll focus more on that.
At first, I was skeptical about buying an LG phone. I considered the One X+, and even the iPhone 5 (shudder). I gave LG a shot though because they built the Nexus 4. If it wasn't for the nexus 4, I wouldn't have bought this device. Brand recognition is important, but you gotta give others a chance. :good:
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I've had all three of the others and this is by far the best...
One X/X+ has issues with lag, non-expandable storage, poor battery life, but one amazing screen.
S3 is nice, but it does have that over saturated AMOLED screen. The LCD on the LGOG is much better to my horrid eyes. Almost as good as the One X series, but not quite.
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Let me just ask one more question, if you guys don't mind responding (i'll probably update the original post with it too) but, how important are the manufacturer added features (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....
Btw, thanks again guys, this is helpful! :good:
crward said:
Let me just ask one more question, if you guys don't mind responding (i'll probably update the original post with it too) but, how important are the manufacturer added features (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....
Btw, thanks again guys, this is helpful! :good:
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Not at all. I've always rooted and installed AOSP ROMs if possible ASAP
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Let me just ask one more question, if you guys don't mind responding (i'll probably update the original post with it too) but, how important are the manufacturer added features (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....
Btw, thanks again guys, this is helpful! :good:
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Not really inpotaint at all......But now that I have the phone I find some of the features useful
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Not really inpotaint at all......But now that I have the phone I find some of the features useful
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Yeah i find most of the features manufacturers add to be a turn off... lol but LG's done a pretty good job, they have a pretty light skin and it's nice. Not even missing AOSP all that much on this thing. I have tried SnowJB though, but just keep coming back to stock, rooted.
Chose the Optimus G over the One X+ becuause I previously owned the one X and didnt enjoy the interface. I chose the Optimus G over the Galaxy s3 because everyone and their mother had one....BTW I wonder how all thoese people feel now that samsung did a evolution instead of a revolution to their phones. All I remember is everyone bashing the 5 for not innovating and the s4 gives us infared and a few extra gimmicks(Ignoring the hardware of course). Sorry just had a side rant. I just wish people will be fair about things. Android excels in having a moddable device with lots of options and apple excels in having the whole phone/music player/internet things down packed along with design.
I really feel like this phone is the biggest hidden gem of anything out there right now. I like owning a phone that very few others even know about. I had the Note 2 and original One X, so nothing against those phones at all. LG had nothing to do with my decision one way or the other.
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LGOG
I was coming from an old school Inspire 4G and was desperately in need of a new phone. I did want the HTC One, but it kept getting delayed and I finally ran out of patience. I've never been a fan of Samsung devices, they feel flimsy to me and Touchwiz is a horrible skin IMO. Therefore, none of the Galaxy devices were even in consideration. I did consider the One X+, but was kind of turned off by the stories of battery life. Also, it only had 1 gig of system RAM, compared to the OG's 2 gigs. So in essence, the quad core processor, 2 gigs of memory, 16 gigs internal storage + the SD card slot and solid construction with no flex (looking at you, Samsung) along with the low price sealed the deal for me.
That help?
I bought this phone despite LG not because of them. One of the big knocks against them is their slow software updates, and combine that with AT&T's piss poor track record for releasing updates, I knew what I was getting into. I'm hoping the dev support continues so I don't have to rely on LG and AT&T for anything.
I have to stick with AT&T unfortunately as they are the only national carrier in Alaska, so unless I want an iPhone, they are the only one who has the latest phones. Local telecoms are a year or two behind the curve with their hardware, although they seem to be getting better, which is why I bought this phone outright so I could use Straight Talk without a contract.
I chose the OG for the same reasons everyone else has stated: great screen, blazing performance, and expandable storage. The LG skin isn't intrusive or as dated as most of the competition's are.
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This isn't the typical, which phone should i buy or why question, i'm doing a project on how important brand recognition is so I'm just really curious if you guys will help. So why did you all buy the OG over the other top phones that were out when you bought it? Also, how important are the manufacturer added features/skins (gimmicks, really) to you when you're buying a phone? (Such as the Q stuff on our LG phones or the S stuff on Samsungs, ect....)
Any responses will be helpful and appreciated
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I bought the og because it had the best specs. I did lots of research as I came from iPhone so I wanted a really good android to replace it. I considered the S3, OX+, and OG. I ruled out the S3 because of the dual core processor, and the OX+ because of limited ram, and the 8 app max. I don't care for the added features. For example, wise screen has never worked correctly for me.
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I didn't even know about any of these features until after I bought the phone. I almost always immediately root and flash a custom Rom the first day. So all that fancy stuff doesn't really interest me much
Thought I am rooted on this phone, I am still running stock.. I am really impressed with the functionality and smoothness. And after learning about the little features, I am enjoying playing around with them
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I'll have to admit I jumped ship I had a s3 and sold it and bought a unlocked OG only had it two days haven't rooted yet but I will the OG does everything the S3 does only better it's faster smoother and better looking like the difference between a 350 and a 454 there is no sub for horsepower and the LG has it all ( until tomorrow when something else comes out )
As has been stated by many:
better processor
better "feel" (didn't feel cheap like the S3)
liked the LG UI over other manufacturer UI's
screen, esp the width (wider than other 4.7" displays)
I got this instead of the S3 because TouchWiz looks more like a toy than a phone. If I had gone for anything Samsung, it would have been the Galaxy Nexus, which likely won't run all that well in two years comparatively. Also, this phone was the sane price as the GalNex when I got it.
HTC Sense is okay, but I've always hated how the One X(+) look physically. Plus HTC is too damn confusing to the point where someone who's done the research still wasn't sure what he'd have been getting...
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I don't have this phone but what got my attention was the LG design. If you have looked at the Optimus 4x or G2X both of these phones were the first of its kind. G2X with a dual core CPU. O4X with Tegra 3 Quad Core CPU. LG doesn't really advertise their product too well, but I think that a good benefit. even tho they tend to take their time with updating their software I preferred it that way. Samsung sometimes pushed out a new update with more bugs then it original had. Also I never was interested in Samsung touchwiz. LG UI has a better feel to then Samsung UI. HTC sense I never liked, however it kinda reminds me of a MIUI, but MIUI is a hell of a lot better then sense.
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I came from a Samsung non-smartphone so I was really interested in the S3 at first, until I saw one for real. It seemed so huge at the time... and plastic. So I shopped around for a smaller phone. I was all for Motorola as well having good experience with their non-smartphones, and I was willing to go with HTC as well. LG was not high on my list of desirability. But when it came down to it, anything smaller had significantly inferior specs compared to the top tier phones, and the OG had an unbeatable combination of features, specs, and price.
Since this was my first smartphone, I had no affinity for any manufacturer's skins, and all I cared about was how potentially offensive LG's was, and it gets pretty good reviews for being minimalistic.

I jumped ship, but i had no choice! Help me choose

Alright so i had gotten a warranty replacement OG earlier last week and i had woken up one day only to find it unable to turn on, LG logo would show and then would just turn off, tried to LGNPST it and it had no effect so i called ATT and they sent me to a device support store. They tried using their own LG tools and could not communicate with the phone so they considered it a dead on arrival phone. They didn't have any OG at that location and i needed a phone that day because i was making a long road trip and couldn't go without my phone (gps) so they gave me a OX+... with the option to have them send me an OG when i got home and me send them the OX+ back. aaaaannnd i really really like the OX+.. It does benchmark slightly lower than my OG 17500(ish on the OG) vs 15500 on the OX+ (but i hear that antutu is snapdragon biased?) anyways, hardware wise the OG is better, but this thing is so damn nice in my hand, build quality is awesome, i love the sound quality when plugged into aux (had to turn up the radio to like 30 with the OG to get a muddy quality loudish audio, where the beats eq makes it sound amazing, way louder at like 19 on the radio and MUCH more crisp and clean audio) Camera is way better, 64 gb of internal is nice... plenty of dev.. Im for real torn between them both, i love certain things about both of em and dont like certain things.. Guess i just would like to know what others opinions are about the OX+ compared to the OG, maybe this isnt the right place to post this for an unbiased opinion, but please try and be unbiased? haha
tl;dr
My OG got messed up, they gave me an HTC One X+, i really like it but love the OG also, would like to hear unbiased opinions to help make decision which to keep.
Keep the one x+ if you like it. I would if it was me.
I agree with gunnyman. Keep the HOX+, if you like it. Either way you have a very good phone. Best plan may be to research it like you are buying a new one and pick the one that you like best. If it's truly a toss up, keep the one that you have in hand.
To me the only difference between the HOX+ and the LGOG is expandable storage vs fixed, but 64GB, actually what 58 GB ish? is plenty.
I'm told the battery life on the HOX+ isn't as good, because Krait chips use less power over all and have integrated the LTE radio on the SoC.
If someone approached me today and wanted to trade my LGOG for a HOX+ I'd probably take them up on it.
I may be biased though because my One X is the best phone I've ever owned.
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To me the only difference between the HOX+ and the LGOG is expandable storage vs fixed, but 64GB, actually what 58 GB ish? is plenty.
I'm told the battery life on the HOX+ isn't as good, because Krait chips use less power over all and have integrated the LTE radio on the SoC.
If someone approached me today and wanted to trade my LGOG for a HOX+ I'd probably take them up on it.
I may be biased though because my One X is the best phone I've ever owned.
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Ok, not trying to start a argument at all. This is just my opinion so do not take this the wrong way. My wife has a one x and I can't stand it. It was ok to begin with but over time I have grown to hate it. She has went through seven replacements since this past September. All for different reasons. To me it is a cheaply made device. She definitely won't get another htc phone and I won't either for that matter. If I was the op I would stick with the lg.
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I had 2 HOX's the first one had a bad camera module in it. I've heard of people with problems with theirs for sure, but luckily mine was rock solid.
Only reason I got rid of it was I got sick of At&T and their restrictions on bootloader unlock and such.
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I had 2 HOX's the first one had a bad camera module in it. I've heard of people with problems with theirs for sure, but luckily mine was rock solid.
Only reason I got rid of it was I got sick of At&T and their restrictions on bootloader unlock and such.
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Even if you are under contract with att there are still ways around their restrictions.
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Even if you are under contract with att there are still ways around their restrictions.
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Yes. And my One X was fully rooted and had custom ROMS, however it was a pain in the ass and in protest I got rid of my One X.
To solve your sound issues on the OG, use MysteryEmotions' kernel and the FauxSound and Speaker Loudness apps. The camera is a distinct win for the X+. Everything else is either close or a win for the OG. I considered the X+ before I bought my OG, but the OG had a lot more in the Pro column when weighing the Pros and Cons between the two. I wouldn't trade it now for anything currently out there. Even of the upcoming devices only the Experia Z has piqued my interest.
Hmm.. I think I need to root it and remove bloat to really make a solid decision. I've decided that the only thing that the OG wins with is s4 pro and 2gb of ram... Is the s4 pro really that much better?
Also with the mystery & faux fix, it's nice knowing that it was cared about when the phone was being made, not give it the worst possible quality and then never fixed.
Bout to root it and see what's up with the stock rom
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Hmm.. I think I need to root it and remove bloat to really make a solid decision. I've decided that the only thing that the OG wins with is s4 pro and 2gb of ram... Is the s4 pro really that much better?
Also with the mystery & faux fix, it's nice knowing that it was cared about when the phone was being made, not give it the worst possible quality and then never fixed.
Bout to root it and see what's up with the stock rom
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the S4 pro is a generation ahead of Tegra 3.
smaller nanometer fab, lower power.
I think the only place it loses to Tegra 3 is GPU, and even that's just barely.
You lose some effects on some games and access to the tegrazone games, but I don't use my phone for heavy duty gaming, I have a Nexus 7 for that.
For me, the feel in the hand and the excellent build quality of the One X+ beat out the LGOG.
The nice thing about the HOX+ is of course, official repos for CM10
gunnyman said:
the S4 pro is a generation ahead of Tegra 3.
smaller nanometer fab, lower power.
I think the only place it loses to Tegra 3 is GPU, and even that's just barely.
You lose some effects on some games and access to the tegrazone games, but I don't use my phone for heavy duty gaming, I have a Nexus 7 for that.
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Yeah, the S4 Pro is built upon a better chip architecture, and is definitely faster/more efficient then the Tegra 3. Where I would like to disagree is the GPU. Sure Tegra has their effects, but any phone can run those, and use Chainfire3D to unlock that stuff on any phone. The Adreno 320, scores more than double in GPU benchmarks the X+ score.
The X+ wins in official support for now, but other than roms, it has a better camera, and the sound quality is definitely a placebo: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/26/beats-me-why-htcs-amazing-sound-on-the-international-one-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
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Yeah, the S4 Pro is built upon a better chip architecture, and is definitely faster/more efficient then the Tegra 3. Where I would like to disagree is the GPU. Sure Tegra has their effects, but any phone can run those, and use Chainfire3D to unlock that stuff on any phone. The Adreno 320, scores more than double in GPU benchmarks the X+ score.
The X+ wins in official support for now, but other than roms, it has a better camera, and the sound quality is definitely a placebo: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
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Idk if i can agree on the sound quality being a placebo.. The difference in quality with beats off and then beats on is like night and day. And I could Never get the og to sound decent no matter what rom, ad-on, app I used. Always sounded like garbage..
I don't play games on any phone.. Idk how people can be hard core gamers on these.. Lol
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I had oX+ for a day or 2 and returned it and got LGOG. For some reason I could not take even a lil bit of "sense"... Also 2GB ram on this one made me think it will last longer (for support) than OX+. (my 2 cents )
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I had oX+ for a day or 2 and returned it and got LGOG. For some reason I could not take even a lil bit of "sense"... Also 2GB ram on this one made me think it will last longer (for support) than OX+. (my 2 cents )
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Yeah i disabled sense as soon as it booted and went to nova lol.. I felt the phone was laggier with sense on..
And i think the 1gb of ram is the BIGGEST killer for me... Gawww decisions decisions...
First world problems lol
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Yeah i disabled sense as soon as it booted and went to nova lol.. I felt the phone was laggier with sense on..
And i think the 1gb of ram is the BIGGEST killer for me... Gawww decisions decisions...
First world problems lol
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Beats is merely an EQ. Its not some type of crazy hardware. I've used the official Beats EQ compared to a One X and the OG was similar. With Poweramp and high quality files, sound quality is awesome on my OG. Yeah 2GB of RAM guarantees support for much longer through ROMs.
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Beats is merely an EQ. Its not some type of crazy hardware. I've used the official Beats EQ compared to a One X and the OG was similar. With Poweramp and high quality files, sound quality is awesome on my OG. Yeah 2GB of RAM guarantees support for much longer through ROMs.
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I've used the ''beats" eq also and it's not the same. There is some difference but it definitely doesn't make it sound like this phone does
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I've used the ''beats" eq also and it's not the same. There is some difference but it definitely doesn't make it sound like this phone does
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Yeah the One X+ may have better audio hardware than the OG. It's definitely better stock, but a little tweaking and the OG can be great too (PowerAmp, FauxSound, etc ). Wish we had a Wolfson though
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Yeah the One X+ may have better audio hardware than the OG. It's definitely better stock, but a little tweaking and the OG can be great too (PowerAmp, FauxSound, etc ). Wish we had a Wolfson though
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I think I'm going to keep it. They're selling for higher prices than the OG so I could potentially sell for something else.. The 1gb of ram is really really bugging me though..
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Don't let it. Android will manage the ram. You'll only notice if you run more than 4 or 5 apps at once and constantly switch between them. Even with 1 GB of ram androids beat the hell out of iOS for multitasking.

[Discussion] Does a Snapdragon 600 processor really a deal Breaker for this phone?

The title says it all, is having a Snapdragon 600 processor really a deal breaker?
Share your thoughts! Please no bashing, or rude languages. Respect everyones opinion. This is a discussion thread.
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Absolutely not a deal breaker for me.
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Not me but there are other reasons why I might not get the ONE Max
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I'm glad the One Max will have the Snap 600. I'm on Verizon and *hope* that we can break what I'm sure will be a locked bootloader with the same unlock method beaups created for the Verizon One.
It depends on the on upgrade price for me here on Sprint. I've narrowed it down to G2 and the One Max. I'm on EPRP, so I cannot take advantage of any 3rd party deals
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It depends on the on upgrade price for me here on Sprint. I've narrowed it down to G2 and the One Max. I'm on EPRP, so I cannot take advantage of any 3rd party deals
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Wow you going from one extreme to another. The One Max which is a over size overweight phablet with probably a upgrade price of $299 to a slim lightweight phone with a 5.2 screen with a upgrade price of $0.
With that said see you over at the G2 side of things.
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shook187 said:
Wow you going from one extreme to another. The One Max which is a over size overweight phablet with probably a upgrade price of $299 to a slim lightweight phone with a 5.2 screen with a upgrade price of $0.
With that said see you over at the G2 side of things.
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I can't get the BestBuy discount. I'm on EPRP plan. G2 looks like $200 on upgrade price via Sprint.......
It will be $249.99 on Sprint with contract.
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Good temperature control
溫度控制的不錯。
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The 600 is not slow by any means and the phone feels amazing. Even the size is OK, initially OK it does feel massive but like all phones you get past that and it just feels normal, the 600 is still going to be fast in 2 years time so not the end of the world.
Also contracts in the UK are free to get, it appears that its only in the states were u have to pay stupid money just to get a contract.
Im due two upgrades, one this month and one in November, plus I've already got the HTC one, so might even hold fire for something better.
Only problem for me is that HTC will probably release an 800 version and call it the one max XE. Which will just be a massive sucker punch to anyone who bought the original.
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htc wont bring out a snapdragon 800 version
they said the one line is the 600er line this year ... thats it ... next year it will be the next line of products .... htc two or something
and then they will use another soc
Yes that's one of the deal breakers for me and i am guessing that's the same for most of the tech crowd around. i am not saying that SD 600 is slow and old, but the competing phones just win so easily.
I am not happy to put my money on a phone that's running an old processor. If it was like computers that i can swap out the CPU later after 1 year i would happily get this phone.
800 has improvements in GPU and power utilization that will be easily seen in such a phone, it could have been the most brilliant thing if an 800 was used and under-clocked to 1.7 Ghz
not to mention, in a few months even the 800 will be thrown away from the top spot.
It was for me plus the 4MP camera and a few other things. I held out for this phone hoping for something great but HTC failed to deliver. As soon as Max launched I went out and bought a Note 3 - totally awesome phone. Now just one failing HTC phone (Sensation) in the family soon to be replaced by an S4.
I watch HTC's demise with sadness.
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It was for me plus the 4MP camera and a few other things. I held out for this phone hoping for something great but HTC failed to deliver. As soon as Max launched I went out and bought a Note 3 - totally awesome phone. Now just one failing HTC phone (Sensation) in the family soon to be replaced by an S4.
I watch HTC's demise with sadness.
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I just ordered my One MAX. i have used the HTC One and from my experience i know that this 4MP camera is amazing and more practically usable than the other phone camera. There is with a reason that HTC One was crowned the best mobile phone of the year.
It came very close to being a deal breaker, but I'm not a big gaming enthusiast or a Samsung fan (GS3). Additionally I found enough articles saying the One Max's performance -- benchmark scores not withstanding -- felt on par or just as good as the Note 3. Personally the lack of a specialized stylus was a bigger potential deal breaker than the Snapdragon 600.
With that being said, I have a Note 3 Developer Edition on backorder with the Samsung site. If Samsung ever delivers on the backorder, I'll know more then as to whether the 800 really makes that much of a difference.
I couldnt care less what kind of processor is in ANY phone I buy. If it is smooth, quick, no lag, and handles everything I throw at it, THATS all that matters in the real world.
I came from a Note 2, which had the same processor and ram, and, frankly, this phone is smoother than the note 2 ever was, even with the custom roms and AOSP that I had on it...I'm sure its because TouchWiz sucks the life out of any phone, and Sense 5.5 doesnt seem to.
Hopefully, development picks up for the one max, so we can see how it handles ASOP roms, but, no matter what, this phone is super smooth, handles anything you ask it to do effortlessly, so stop getting hung up on processor names, and model numbers, and just pay attention to how a phone works for YOU..
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It depends on the on upgrade price for me here on Sprint. I've narrowed it down to G2 and the One Max. I'm on EPRP, so I cannot take advantage of any 3rd party deals
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One up promotion, $10 Employee referral discount. This is what I have. I gave them an 8 y/o phone to start it up, and I only paid tax.
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I couldnt care less what kind of processor is in ANY phone I buy. If it is smooth, quick, no lag, and handles everything I throw at it, THATS all that matters in the real world.
I came from a Note 2, which had the same processor and ram, and, frankly, this phone is smoother than the note 2 ever was, even with the custom roms and AOSP that I had on it...I'm sure its because TouchWiz sucks the life out of any phone, and Sense 5.5 doesnt seem to.
Hopefully, development picks up for the one max, so we can see how it handles ASOP roms, but, no matter what, this phone is super smooth, handles anything you ask it to do effortlessly, so stop getting hung up on processor names, and model numbers, and just pay attention to how a phone works for YOU..
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i wish HTC releases a Google play edition for the MAX.i wonder how difficult it will be for dev's to port the GE version of One to the MAX.
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i was really worried about the processor, however i do take back my words, SD 600 is good enough for me.
Having come from a Galaxy Note 2 to the One Max, I would say the One Max would have definitely benefited from the SD800. While the Note 2 did have a 720p screen as opposed to the 1080p, it was snappier due to less strain on the gfx processing. I can feel lag in gaming due to the increased resolution on the One Max. When I used my friends Note 3, I saw none of the same lag I was getting on the One Max.
Now, do I regret choosing the One Max over the Note 3? Not really. I kept flip flopping back and forth between them for my upgrade. I really like the bigger size of the One Max, the front speakers, and aluminum body (minus the horrid choice of white plastic in between the sheets). One the Note 3, the faster processor was nice, but overall, that's all it had to offer. There was one game that I really enjoyed that made use of the Note stylus, but I already beat it and hardly ever took the stylus out for anything else. Plus the upgrade only cost me $109 through Amazon as opposed to $199 for the Note 3 only made it even sweeter.
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Having come from a Galaxy Note 2 to the One Max, I would say the One Max would have definitely benefited from the SD800. While the Note 2 did have a 720p screen as opposed to the 1080p, it was snappier due to less strain on the gfx processing. I can feel lag in gaming due to the increased resolution on the One Max. When I used my friends Note 3, I saw none of the same lag I was getting on the One Max.
Now, do I regret choosing the One Max over the Note 3? Not really. I kept flip flopping back and forth between them for my upgrade. I really like the bigger size of the One Max, the front speakers, and aluminum body (minus the horrid choice of white plastic in between the sheets). One the Note 3, the faster processor was nice, but overall, that's all it had to offer. There was one game that I really enjoyed that made use of the Note stylus, but I already beat it and hardly ever took the stylus out for anything else. Plus the upgrade only cost me $109 through Amazon as opposed to $199 for the Note 3 only made it even sweeter.
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if you are gamer, do follow the gaming thread from the original HTC one. we have scripts which would making your gaming lag free and last long without thermals. I believe these scripts should work for the One MAX as well.
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And once we get the kernel sources, the dev's will be able to unleash the GFX power of SD 600. From what i know gaming (atleast with help of devs) on SD 600 is highly smooth and long lasting - It seems like SD 800 is very power hungry and makes your battery drain faster compare to SD 600. I know SD 800 is supposed to be better at battery usage, however this is specifically for gaming and SD 800 also seems to heat faster which also will contribute to battery drain.

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