This may be a dumb (newbe) question, but does rooting the HTC One (in order to remove some bloatware) interfere with receiving the 4.2 update in the future?
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This may be a dumb (newbe) question, but does rooting the HTC One (in order to remove some bloatware) interfere with receiving the 4.2 update in the future?
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If anything, it would unroot it but developers would probab;y get the rom and modified it to work with rooted phones
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Hello,
I rooted my phone this week. T-Mobile in my country never provided an update for my T-Mobile G2. So my phone still runs on build 1.76.110.6.
I'm consider to install a custom ROM, because this firmware is really slow :-(
But If I will wait a few weeks and T-Mobile provides the 2.1 update this time, will I still have root access after the OTA update? Or will I lose the root access?
Are there any good and stable, full hardware supported custom ROMs with Android 2.1?
Or what's the best custom ROM at the moment for the HTC Hero/T-Mobile G2?
Bernd
BerndSch said:
Hello,
I rooted my phone this week. T-Mobile in my country never provided an update for my T-Mobile G2. So my phone still runs on build 1.76.110.6.
I'm consider to install a custom ROM, because this firmware is really slow :-(
But If I will wait a few weeks and T-Mobile provides the 2.1 update this time, will I still have root access after the OTA update? Or will I lose the root access?
Are there any good and stable, full hardware supported custom ROMs with Android 2.1?
Or what's the best custom ROM at the moment for the HTC Hero/T-Mobile G2?
Bernd
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1. There is an update for T-mobile - have you ever checked the HTC support page? It is still v1.5 but its an update... (will remove root)
2. 2.1 is unlikely to be released by t-mobile in the next couple of weeks, you're probably be looking at a month or so and I also don't think OTA updates are supported on your current build. Also you will NOT have root and probably won't be able to easily downgrade again to gain root access.
3. There are lots of custom roms try reading the hundreds of other posts asking which 2.1 update to use. They are all about the same stability wise and realistically speed wise too, though some vary to a very minor degree.
How exactly did you get root in the first place? Or are you talking about a recovery image installed?
btdag said:
1. There is an update for T-mobile - have you ever checked the HTC support page? It is still v1.5 but its an update... (will remove root)
2. 2.1 is unlikely to be released by t-mobile in the next couple of weeks, you're probably be looking at a month or so and I also don't think OTA updates are supported on your current build. Also you will NOT have root and probably won't be able to easily downgrade again to gain root access.
3. There are lots of custom roms try reading the hundreds of other posts asking which 2.1 update to use. They are all about the same stability wise and realistically speed wise too, though some vary to a very minor degree.
How exactly did you get root in the first place? Or are you talking about a recovery image installed?
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1) I couldn't download the official update from the HTC website, because you have to provide your serial number. And with my number I'm not allowed to download the update. Because I own an T-Mobile G2 instead of the "real" HTC Hero
2) If I install the latest update from T-Mobile/HTC I lose my root access and it could be hard to get it back again :-( That's bad
To get root on my phone I followed this tutorial:
phandroid.com/2009/08/04/how-to-gain-root-access-on-your-htc-hero/
(there are other similar tutorials out there)
BerndSch said:
1) I couldn't download the official update from the HTC website, because you have to provide your serial number. And with my number I'm not allowed to download the update. Because I own an T-Mobile G2 instead of the "real" HTC Hero
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Have you contacted them about this? The G2 is just a brand name, they are exactly the same phones as the Hero's and T-mobile doesn't actually sell any "Hero" phones just the G2. Therefore, that update is definitely for you.
Alternatively you could install the update using the exe found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
Once again bear in mind that this wipes your data and will remove root and you may have a hard time getting it back.
btdag said:
Have you contacted them about this? The G2 is just a brand name, they are exactly the same phones as the Hero's and T-mobile doesn't actually sell any "Hero" phones just the G2. Therefore, that update is definitely for you.
Alternatively you could install the update using the exe found here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
Once again bear in mind that this wipes your data and will remove root and you may have a hard time getting it back.
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Yes I contacted HTC and the answer was that I had to contact T-Mobile in my country. They told me that I lose the warranty if I install a update from the internet, because THEY didn't provide it.
But in other countries (e.g: Germany) T-Mobile provides this update.
So what should I do now? What's the best solution? Install an official HTC update and lose root access or install on of the custom ROMs out there?
My friend, welcome to the dark side:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684654
2.1 ROM, super duper quick, backup your apps via titanium back, then restore once you have flashed the new ROM. Maybe a good idea to backup messages etc if you want them
akhtar1817 said:
My friend, welcome to the dark side:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684654
2.1 ROM, super duper quick, backup your apps via titanium back, then restore once you have flashed the new ROM. Maybe a good idea to backup messages etc if you want them
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Should I install Nandroid before flashing?
At the moment I "only" have root access and not installed any additional boot loader or other software/firmware.
Would like to try your suggested ROM (Cronos Droid Version 1.3). Do I have to wipe my sd card to install this ROM?
And do you run the Non Overclocked or the Overclocked version?
I have never seen a clear answer on this question. What exactly will prevent us from running an official update on our phones. When LG releases the official gingerbread update, what will prevent us from doing that?
1) Rooting.
2) OCing/tweaking/hardware acceleration.
3) Installing custom roms.
If we have only rooted can we update, or would we somehow need to flash our phones back to stock settings? I suppose the development community will take the official LG gingerbread rom, tweak it a bit, and release it for us to use with our rooted and OC'd phones, so maybe it's not a big deal?
Any advice?
I think this is a good thread to sticky so people know this info, since i've never seen it posted anywhere else, for any other phones.
Nothing will prevent you to update. It's your choice.
Don't see the point to stick this.
Cheers
Zecanilis said:
Nothing will prevent you to update. It's your choice.
Don't see the point to stick this.
Cheers
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So if I have my LG Optimus T rooted, and have a rom installed like cyanogenmod, I can then just download and installed the official 2.3 upgrade from LG/Tmobile?
Yes.
Cheers
Ok then cheers!
how on earth were you able to put CyanogenMod on your phone?
I just thinking about same!
I've never tried to install a stock rom, and with the HTC magic I had read people talking about not being able to install the stock rogers rom without a lot of trouble.
I also heard some issues with certain phones having OTA updates and conflicting with rooted phones.
I just wanted to make sure this was ok. I have cyanogenmod on my HTC magic, sorry for the confusion, so I just used that name for a generic rom. I just meant in general if you can update a hacked/rooted phone without it locking up.
Jailbroken ipod touches and phones cannot be updated using the stock updates that are released over itunes, you have to do a factory reset before going and installing the official updates.
thesmoth said:
I've never tried to install a stock rom, and with the HTC magic I had read people talking about not being able to install the stock rogers rom without a lot of trouble.
I also heard some issues with certain phones having OTA updates and conflicting with rooted phones.
I just wanted to make sure this was ok. I have cyanogenmod on my HTC magic, sorry for the confusion, so I just used that name for a generic rom. I just meant in general if you can update a hacked/rooted phone without it locking up.
Jailbroken ipod touches and phones cannot be updated using the stock updates that are released over itunes, you have to do a factory reset before going and installing the official updates.
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In this case - Custom ROMs - HTC now sucks. HTC still trying disable for their users installation of custom ROMs even if many people just love this possibilities.
LG (for now) doesn't do that.
The_ERROR said:
In this case - Custom ROMs - HTC now sucks. HTC still trying disable for their users installation of custom ROMs even if many people just love this possibilities.
LG (for now) doesn't do that.
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Idk where you got this from... especially when hTC is one of the few companies still posting info on how to fix your phone after you root it, also if you are friends with them on facebook they make posts about leaked roms and they say they dont recommend installing but they still show you where its at. Motorola did try to make it impossible to root the droid 2/x/pro but ppl found a way around that, i believe it was koush.
I don't believe any manufacturer spends a great deal of time trying to prevent root, now carriers like sprint and verizon, yes. They don't want you doing wireless tether and things like that.
I have this from root.cz but it is in czech language.
They talking about problems of rooting and updating of system on new HTCs phones, like for example Tatoo. They have HW lock on their NAND ROM, so getting of root is not as simple as was before and so on.
Another noob question: Will the rooted vibrant phones get the official 2.2 ota update automatically? If not, how can we get it? Do we have to unroot to stock 2.1 and manually flash official 2.2? If the answer to my first question is yes; what will happen? Do we get unrooted automatically n loose data?
Thanks.
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sLiKK said:
Another noob question: Will the rooted vibrant phones get the official 2.2 ota update automatically? If not, how can we get it? Do we have to unroot to stock 2.1 and manually flash official 2.2? If the answer to my first question is yes; what will happen? Do we get unrooted automatically n loose data?
Thanks.
*** Sent from my Samsing Vibrant using xda app
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Although this isn't definitive, just expect that *IF* you have taken responsibility for modifying your phone (and rooting is modifying), you will have to take responsibility for updating it yourself. Merely rooting may not leave you with a brick post OTA, but we've also heard plenty of tales of unmodified or only-rooted phones being bricked with the last OTA, so be advised. And this is not just a Samsung issue. HTC, Motorola, LG...etc ad nauseum...
OTA's are made for those who do not modify their Android phones (i.e. the overwhelming majority of users). The only upgrade scenarios an OTA can reliably count on being workable are those where a phone's OS is in a known state. Samsung & T-Mobile cannot take into consideration modified devices when developing an OTA, because such modifications run the gamut and are impossible to predict.
Furthermore OTA's are pushed out in batches. In other words, all of the million-plus Vibrants will not be updated all at once, but in stages. This makes several things likely. First, it's likely that it could take many weeks for you to get any official OTA pushed to your phone. Second, it's equally likely that you will be able to get the OTA packaged as an Odin or CWM update long before you'd ever see the OTA officially.
So here's the gist...
If you want to rely on an OTA, don't modify your phone in any way whatsoever. If you want to modify your phone an OTA is irrelavent, as an update will be available to you as a modder long before it's available to the majority.
If you have a rooted stock 2.1 you will recieve the ota, but you will loose root.
Edit: id just listen to that guy up there
Fear the beard...
Hi Everyone:
I am so new to the development world. simple question:
I have managed to unlock the bootloader and root My HTC one.
How am I going to do software update later when AT&T release new one for the device? (I Know they are going to have the fixes for multiple bugs, like camera improvement, back and home button sensitivity issue, battery life, etc ).
will I loose the root after the update, or I can not even do update through OTA since I unlocked the bootloader?
will whatever way for the approaching wipes the data and apps?
How will it work? hope someone can answer my questions, thank you in advance!!
since you unlock the bootloader, you can not recived the OTA notification maybe.
I am in europe and I have to check for the update manually. I rooted the device and it is working fine. I tired to install the latest HTC software update (1.29.401.12) but it failed. It restarts the device and boots into TWRP.
Appreciate some insight.
babyzone2 said:
Hi Everyone:
I am so new to the development world. simple question:
I have managed to unlock the bootloader and root My HTC one.
How am I going to do software update later when AT&T release new one for the device? (I Know they are going to have the fixes for multiple bugs, like camera improvement, back and home button sensitivity issue, battery life, etc ).
will I loose the root after the update, or I can not even do update through OTA since I unlocked the bootloader?
will whatever way for the approaching wipes the data and apps?
How will it work? hope someone can answer my questions, thank you in advance!!
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I wouldn't worry about ota updates ever again. Every time an ota is released someone puts out a stock rooted rom you can flash via custom recovery.
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gunnyman said:
I wouldn't worry about ota updates ever again. Every time an ota is released someone puts out a stock rooted rom you can flash via custom recovery.
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thanks for the reply,
to this day, I still dont quite understand how the phone work when come to bootloader, recovery, custom Rom.
do you have a good artile about how they work? what are the relationship between?
Hi guys, I was curious, I have been using my HTC One I got from ATT on launch day, Now I want to root it, and I can through HTC Dev but I have a OSX Mac 10.8.3 and I am scared of screwing the device up, First of all, Is there any way to run 4.2.2 with zero bugs or issues? if not, what can i do to remove bloatware that i do not want (besides att adress book which i actually use), so I can free up my memory, because I use memory booster and I see lots of stupid stuff that eats away on the RAM, I hate the blinkfeed and I just want to optimize the device, Also once 4.2.2 is available OFFICIALLY i want to be able to upgrade to it without having to go through hassle (ota) if i root I cant do that?
barkmarkin said:
Hi guys, I was curious, I have been using my HTC One I got from ATT on launch day, Now I want to root it, and I can through HTC Dev but I have a OSX Mac 10.8.3 and I am scared of screwing the device up, First of all, Is there any way to run 4.2.2 with zero bugs or issues? if not, what can i do to remove bloatware that i do not want (besides att adress book which i actually use), so I can free up my memory, because I use memory booster and I see lots of stupid stuff that eats away on the RAM, I hate the blinkfeed and I just want to optimize the device, Also once 4.2.2 is available OFFICIALLY i want to be able to upgrade to it without having to go through hassle (ota) if i root I cant do that?
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I've had no problems using a Mac in the past with regards to unlocking through HTC Dev.
barkmarkin said:
First of all, Is there any way to run 4.2.2 with zero bugs or issues?
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As you are probably aware, HTC has not released an official 4.2.2 update for the One. Even when they do, you will have to wait for AT&T to release their OTA update for it (since you are using the stock AT&T ROM).
However, once you root your phone you can use a custom ROM instead of the stock AT&T version. Most custom ROMs for the One right now are still based on 4.1.2 and Sense 5 (as they are primarily modifications of the stock HTC sense ROM than entirely new versions), however a few ROMs based on 4.2.2 do exist for the One presently (CyanogenMod, AOKP, etc). Be aware that these ROMs are still early in development and are likely to have some bugs at the moment.
barkmarkin said:
if not, what can i do to remove bloatware that i do not want (besides att adress book which i actually use), so I can free up my memory
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You can install a custom ROM with the bloatware pre-removed or you can keep the stock ROM and root your phone, then simply remove the applications you want manually. Personally, I would recommend you take a look at the Android Revolution ROM, as it is very close to the HTC stock ROM, but it also has some useful mods (such as the percentage battery indicator and performance tweaks) and all AT&T bloat removed. You can always reinstall any AT&T apps you miss if they are available on the Play store (and I'm pretty sure all of them are).
barkmarkin said:
I hate the blinkfeed and I just want to optimize the device
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If you don't want blinkfeed you have a few options:
Change your launcher to something other than Sense, such as Nova (does not require custom ROM)
Install a custom ROM that does not have blinkfeed (one of the ROMs not based on Sense)
Stay on Sense but switch your default homescreen to something other than blinkfeed/disable all sources for blinkfeed (this doesn't remove blinkfeed but it does effectively the same thing)
barkmarkin said:
Also once 4.2.2 is available OFFICIALLY i want to be able to upgrade to it without having to go through hassle (ota) if i root I cant do that?
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My understanding is that if you simply unlock your bootloader and root your device, but stay on the stock AT&T ROM you will still be able to get OTA updates, however you may have to re-root your phone after doing so. If you want 4.2.2 available right away when HTC releases it you will likely get it faster here on XDA than you will by waiting around for AT&T to push an OTA update, however. Updating your ROM with a custom recovery tool like ClockworkMod is very simple (just place the zip on your SD card and click "update from zip" in CWM), so personally I don't see the big deal of having OTA unless you aren't near a computer much. Some custom ROMs even support OTA updates for that ROM.