Hi guys!
My first post ever here so please forgive the noobiness and the perhaps many q's..
A friend is in the US & can hopefully bring me this monster of a phone to Germany next week; I just called an AT&T shop though and the (very helpful I have to admit) rep said that they will not be selling them unlocked and cannot unlock them, expected I guess. Now a couple of q's:
- Will it first of all function in Europe?
- How difficult is it going to be to remove the sim lock so I can use my German o2 sim card in it?
- I suppose it will have loads of AT&T and Motorola software on it but how intrusive are they at the end of the day, can't you install LauncherPro for example?
I currently have an unrooted Nexus One & was just about to order the Nexus S but the Atrix is just too good to not buy.
Thanks for all help you guys provide through the forums!!
It will not function without an unlock code. You can remove all the at&t bloatware. Yes you can install launcher pro over motoblur. The difficulty of unlocking the phone really depends. Usually you can pay a few dollars to some website to unlock it.
edgeicator said:
It will not function without an unlock code. You can remove all the at&t bloatware. Yes you can install launcher pro over motoblur. The difficulty of unlocking the phone really depends. Usually you can pay a few dollars to some website to unlock it.
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Many thanks!
Vangelis13 said:
Many thanks!
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Please visit this thread i made yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11496757
i'm making a list of various unlocking sites , to see which ones can sell us the codes.
Any contributions are welcome
How well would a US bought Atrix work in Europe ? Will it operate across all GSM/3G frequencies or have some limitations ? The reason I ask is as I've seen some threads where they talk about a gsm version of the Atrix, but AT&T do operate with a gsm setup ... ?
mrabcx said:
How well would a US bought Atrix work in Europe ? Will it operate across all GSM/3G frequencies or have some limitations ? The reason I ask is as I've seen some threads where they talk about a gsm version of the Atrix, but AT&T do operate with a gsm setup ... ?
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From Wikipedia:
Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia
In Africa, Europe, Middle East and Asia most of the providers use 900 MHz and 1800 MHz bands. GSM-900 is most widely used. Fewer operators use DCS-1800 and GSM-1800. A dual-band 900/1800 phone is required to be compatible with almost all operators. At least the GSM-900 band must be supported in order to be compatible with many operators.
Hi
Hope this doesn't come across in the wrong way, now that the Atrix is coming available as a Sim Free model over here in Europe, Is there any chance of some non US sections for Q&A, Roms etc, As over here we are nothing to do with AT&T?
Thanks
@home said:
Hi
Hope this doesn't come across in the wrong way, now that the Atrix is coming available as a Sim Free model over here in Europe, Is there any chance of some non US sections for Q&A, Roms etc, As over here we are nothing to do with AT&T?
Thanks
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And what exactly would be the point of these subforums if all the mods and roms are the same for ATT and international versions?
As stated above; I'm getting the Rogers HTC One, but I'm not sure which forum I should be following.
With my SGSIII it was simple, Rogers was listed with the AT&T version, and the international version is quite different from the North American, but the One doesn't really seem different between the regions. My biggest concern is the ROMs, want to make sure I'm getting the right ROM for my device.
Thanks
T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers and all GSM carriers are the same as the international version. You can follow either thread you want
Only difference is radio bands
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wich one is the rooting section for canadian verson of m8 is it like samsung you use at & t section
Not really a dumb question. You are probably fine on the "international" or generic One M8 section. All ROMs for the GSM variants will work on your version. Also, many of the general and Q&A threads there (as well as this AT&T version section) will apply to your version. But you will have to use some judgement and discretion. While all M8's are identical in hardware, there are subtle network/radio differences between the carrier versions.
Also, depending on your carrier, lots of the info in the AT&T section can be handy. For instance, Rogers and Bell Canada (not sure about other Canadian carriers) share the same/similar network with AT&T, and the companies were all the same company (or partially owned by AT&T) at in one point.
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
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Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
henklbr said:
Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
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The document I linked shows what each CSC actually stands for.
You can link it in the first post if you want.
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
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This is brilliant. Thanks! Have been trying to find a complete, intelligible list for a few days now. Should have started at XDA of course ...
Small correction: XEH stands for Hungarian unlocked only, Vodafone, Telenor and T-Mobile all have their own CSC codes (VDH, PAN and TMH, respectively - PAN because Telenor used to be Pannon GSM Hungary).
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
Almighty1 said:
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
murtaza02 said:
That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Well actually, Samsung locked everyone out so it doesn't really matter which variant you have, both the N950U (carrier variants) and N950U1 (unlocked variants) have locked bootloaders.
All of them should work fine outside the US when roaming, wouldn't really recommend it if you live outside the US though.
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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That is correct. Chinese variant and Korean variants have the most storage options while the rest of the world is left with 64GB only.
Sent from my G8142