I unlocked my bootloader and now I'm waiting for s-off to make it look like it was untampered. I seen a while ago someone figured it out but there's been no news since. Anyone heard anything?
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Nope - Still waiting. I suspect that someone is working on a user friendly way to implement it. It's one thing to achieve it, but another to make the method available to the average user (Like me).
I'm an average user but I'd rather have a hard-ish way so I can learn. Hopefully it can be done on ubuntu.
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I'm an average user but I'd rather have a hard-ish way so I can learn. Hopefully it can be done on ubuntu.
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As long as we don't have to attach any wires to anything or take anything apart I can handle whatever the method
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As long as we don't have to attach any wires to anything or take anything apart I can handle whatever the method
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Coming from the rezound which required a wire exploit to get s off.... Bring it on lol
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I'd rather not take it apart, I'm afraid I couldn't get back together. Lol
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Coming from the rezound which required a wire exploit to get s off.... Bring it on lol
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I read it was all done in software.
Napoleon_PhoneApart said:
I read it was all done in software.
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It was both, a custom hboot that was flashed in download mode which was achieved by connecting a wire to two contact points on the back of the phone. The custom hboot did the s off and then you just overwrite with stock hboot and voilla, s off
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It was both, a custom hboot that was flashed in download mode which was achieved by connecting a wire to two contact points on the back of the phone. The custom hboot did the s off and then you just overwrite with stock hboot and voilla, s off
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I guess the folks that figured it out are still working the on the bugs in the system before they release it to us masses. After mastering the "wire" trick on my Rezound also, I'm pretty sure I can handle it as long as there's a reasonable certainty I won't brick my phone.
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To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?
happened across this this morning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
(thanks to jcase on twitter)
value could be a couple different things,to us:
1)downgrade if there was an explolit in older firmware
2)use it to sneek on the signed eng hboot by using that in the third step instead of an s-on ship hboot,then running an RUU with hboot removed to finish recovering the phone
id love to try it,but i dont have a linux machine and my linux skills are basically none
your thots?
whoah! I just read through that whole process and that is some scary stuff right there. But looks like it could be great progress right there!
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whoah! I just read through that whole process and that is some scary stuff right there. But looks like it could be great progress right there!
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Yeah, I am looking forward to Revolutionary or someone to make it a one click routine. That would be nice.
Interesting. If I were to guess, I would say that HBOOT unlocks something in order to prep for a flash of a PH98IMG.zip ... when you intentionally brick the phone by messing with the flashable file you've left it in an unlocked state, which you can take advantage of after rebooting by directly copying to the raw partition a bootable image. Obviously some knowledge of the underlying phone hardware is needed in order to find, modify, or build from scratch this bootable image and finding the proper partition into which it needs to be copied -- the directions in the linked thread are for a different phone and different code and probably different partition names would be required.
This may not even work on the Rezound.
And, I should add, the potential to permanently and irrevocably brick your phone is quite high.
It might work with the signed eng hboot. I would try it if I had a backup device. Hell if someone has one that is in terrible condition that is going to do an insurance claim reguardless, I would ask them to try it out. Or have me help them try it.
I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
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Yeah, I am looking forward to Revolutionary or someone to make it a one click routine. That would be nice.
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Yeah- I remember how easy it was on the Incredible to root. Then on the Thunderbolt it was a little harder (for those who aren't comfortable with adp commands) and eventually a one-click process came up. Now, it would be great to have something like that on the Rezound and maybe, just maybe, be able to root without this big, ugly UNLOCKED / RE-LOCKED showing in H-Boot!
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I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
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You,sir,are a gentleman and a scholar looking fwd to your results. If it fails,ill throw a few bones your way to help purchas a replacement!
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I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
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can you hit me up on gtalk before you try? PM me please. I have some suggestions that might help it go better.
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I'm gonna give this a shot. Worse thing that happens is, I go and buy another Rezound (or something else).
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i'm in... no luck with rom building today so i might as well fry my rezound
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i'm in... no luck with rom building today so i might as well fry my rezound
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If you are gonna try it now PM me please if you want to gtalk. I have a couple ideas/suggestions
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If you are gonna try it now PM me please if you want to gtalk. I have a couple ideas/suggestions
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awww yeah! here's hoping for some positive results!!
was just going to post this last night. good luck guys!
For anyone that wants to try it
Start with the OTA PH98IMG.zip
Then swap with our shipped PH98IMG.zip
So you should be trying to go from Hboot 2.11 to 2.10
Then when in linux, recover with the signed eng hboot image we have.
After that, I would recommend using fastboot to turn secure flag off (assuming you didn't brick and it worked)
Then flash a homemade PH98IMG.zip with everything except hboot in it.
What should be done first is identify which emmc block hboot is before you start this process.
woah... if we have a "signed" eng HBOOT why cant we just flash it over the one we already have?
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woah... if we have a "signed" eng HBOOT why cant we just flash it over the one we already have?
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It's a lower version. So we need a downgrade like this to flash it
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I'll pass everything in my paypal account to anyone who gets this. I think is like 60 or 70 dollars.
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If this works kudos. S-off is like the rosetta stone of htc phones lol
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I'll pass everything in my paypal account to anyone who gets this. I think is like 60 or 70 dollars.
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While I can't be as generous as you ...I will certainly donate towards someone who does attempt this.
Great find Scotty!
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It's a lower version. So we need a downgrade like this to flash it
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What version number is the ENG HBOOT?
Looking at selling my Evo 3D to a buddy and I would like to get a newer one, ie no scratches. I wanted to ask what are the repercussions of going with a newer 3vo; in terms of rooting. Also are they still somewhat the same; nothing has been changed (maybe BOOT version?)
You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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Please explain about the new hboot. IIRC My hboot was the hardest to do, now you're telling me the new one is harder? I don't just want to get a new phone, I want to get my buddy out of his clamshell...yes he has a clamshell.
I haven't rooted on mine yet, only because I don't have the time to be on down-time while I root. Especially since I have never rooted before. So learning curve taken into account.
I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Refresh my memory on the wire trick.
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Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
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Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
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Hboot 1.58 can be s-off by wire trick, someone has try and confirmed, try to read on jopunotbear thread.
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Ok I'm getting do and don'ts from this thread. I'm going to let it linger and see what others have to say. I would really like to get my buddy into the 21st century. So lets hope I get more do than don'ts.
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it has proper hardware. 1gb ram and dual core withc can be overclocked to over 1.8ghz.
you got an "more than ok" from me. take a look at the price (vs. sensation) - it has better hardware, lol (MSM8660)
just buy it . you won't regret IF YOU WILL USE COSTOM ROM
s-on?what's so bad about that? use 4ext with smartflash...
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That the thing, I've always wanted to root my phone, so I want to make certain that I can root a newer 3VO.
sorry for the missunderstanding. you may be able to s-off a newer hboot. im not sure though
1. On my very first EVO LTE I used Dirtyracun to obtain S-OFF.
2. On my replacement I used babyracun and then Facepalm to obtain S-OFF.
1. When I used VipeRUU's RUU process on my first EVO LTE (used Dirtyracun) the phone went back to being locked and S-ON again.
2. When using ViperRUU's RUU process on my replacement EVO LTE (used babyracun & then Facepalm) the phone went to "UNLOCKED" and still saying "S-OFF" with the CID still showing. So then I used the ViperRUU's S-OFF Toggle process of which changed me back to "S-ON" and took away the CID display. BUT it still says I'm "UNLOCKED."
What I'm looking for is my phone to be back to COMPLETE STOCK. I don't even want it to be unlocked. I also don't want it to be displaying "RELOCKED." I don't even know where to begin, what to start searching for, or what I'm even looking for to obtain my request. Figured I would post this and see if anyone has any answers.
Thanks in advance.
Regaw lined (badly spelled) has that boot loader customizer available. You can make your bootloader show whatever u like. Its in 1 of the development sections
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Regaw lined (badly spelled) has that boot loader customizer available. You can make your bootloader show whatever u like. Its in 1 of the development sections
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I thought that requires S-OFF?
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I thought u said you were s-off.
Edit.. I reread and I'm not familiar with vipers s-off toggle. So it eliminates your s-off status . I thought it was like a hex edit on bootloader or something and your phone is actually still s-off.
Why u going back to stock. Moving on to the ONE ?
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I thought u said you were s-off.
Edit.. I reread and I'm not familiar with vipers s-off toggle. So it eliminates your s-off status . I thought it was like a hex edit on bootloader or something and your phone is actually still s-off.
Why u going back to stock. Moving on to the ONE ?
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I thought the same at first too.
I just wanted it back to stock. I've moved on from this phone. Lol. Cured my flashoholic problem. When I cancel my contract soon I'm going to sell this phone and switch carriers. Unless I come up with a better idea.
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Well best of luck man.
I've seen you help plenty of people here the last x amount of months .I'm sure a couple of noobs will be left waiting for an answer a little longer with your absense
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Well best of luck man.
I've seen you help plenty of people here the last x amount of months .I'm sure a couple of noobs will be left waiting for an answer a little longer with your absense
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Lol. I appreciate that. I'm hoping to keep this phone as my music player so I might still be around. Might as well root my phone while its unlocked now too. Lol.
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Sorry to see ya go, delakit. You've been really helpful to a lot of people.
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Sorry to see ya go, delakit. You've been really helpful to a lot of people.
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Thanks, but I'm not gone yet. My car just took a **** on me and my priorities now need to adjust substantially. I see myself with this phone for quite a while. Not even worried about it anymore. Still going to give Sprint the business though, and I'm not talking cash!
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I don't know what some of these words I keep seeing mean. I was hoping there's a thread to teach me HTC terms. Is there?
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like what exactly? Im sure you can just ask here and people will reply
Google would probably help as well
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I don't know what some of these words I keep seeing mean. I was hoping there's a thread to teach me HTC terms. Is there?
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What words? You posted in the right section so people would probably love to help lol
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Lets see...
Like the difference in s-off and unlocking the bootloader.
What s-off does.
What is hboot?
What is an RUU?
(Not a term but...) In case of an emergency how would I flash back to stock if I needed to? (Gonna miss Odin for that)
Those are the things I can think if off the top of my head.
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Lets see...
Like the difference in s-off and unlocking the bootloader.
What s-off does.
What is hboot?
What is an RUU?
(Not a term but...) In case of an emergency how would I flash back to stock if I needed to? (Gonna miss Odin for that)
Those are the things I can think if off the top of my head.
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Most of that is solved with a simple search. As for the back to stock thing we just got an ruu which is like a one click odin on the Samsung phones.
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Lets see...
Like the difference in s-off and unlocking the bootloader.
What s-off does.
What is hboot?
What is an RUU?
(Not a term but...) In case of an emergency how would I flash back to stock if I needed to? (Gonna miss Odin for that)
Those are the things I can think if off the top of my head.
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Unlocking the bootloader = able to flash custom recovery, roms, kernels.
S-Off = lets you flash all of the above, plus radios and downgrade hboot
hboot = underlying firmware of the device, without S-Off its not possible to downgrade this and you generally you want to mess with hboot as little as possible(or not at all) as there's a high potential for hard bricking your device if you do a command wrong.
RUU = basically an ODIN executable oh****button.
Most of the stuff is going to be the same across Android devices, however.
Thanks for the help. HTC seems confusing... Lol
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Thanks for the help. HTC seems confusing... Lol
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It's just different terms it's very similar
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Anything else I should know?
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Make a nandroid store it someplace besides your phone. Just in case
gunnyman said:
Make a nandroid store it someplace besides your phone. Just in case
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Absolutely. That was the first thing I did. To be sure, I have the nandroid backup stored on several hard drives.
Napoleon_PhoneApart said:
Absolutely. That was the first thing I did. To be sure, I have the nandroid backup stored on several hard drives.
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Posting to say how amused I am by your name.
Oh err.. on topic: yes! Nandroids are good!
I know that. I've been flashing and modding Samsung phones for a few years and only one HTC. I had no idea what I was doing to that poor phone.
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