GS4 way Dimmer Than Galaxy Nexus at Full Brightness - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

I noticed that my Verizon Galaxy S4 is much dimmer compared to my Galaxy Nexus at any matched brightness, especially full.
The Nexus just has that blinding brightness at full and the S4 doesn't, especially next to each other.
Is everyone else with both phones seeing the same?

you must be on crack or have a bad screen. full brightness on both and my nexus barely looks like its on compared to the brightness of the S4. i even put it up next to my friends N2 and it blew his away

guts311 said:
I noticed that my Verizon Galaxy S4 is much dimmer compared to my Galaxy Nexus at any matched brightness, especially full.
The Nexus just has that blinding brightness at full and the S4 doesn't, especially next to each other.
Is everyone else with both phones seeing the same?
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Your phone is defective if the Nexus looks brighter than the S IV. My S III was a lot brighter than the Galaxy Nexus, my Note II brighter than both and my S IV brighter than all of them.

guts311 said:
I noticed that my Verizon Galaxy S4 is much dimmer compared to my Galaxy Nexus at any matched brightness, especially full.
The Nexus just has that blinding brightness at full and the S4 doesn't, especially next to each other.
Is everyone else with both phones seeing the same?
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This might help (from Gizmodo site)
"The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this—when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness."
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Both phones are on manual brightness, s4 has the auto tone turned off and screen mode turned to dynamic. Yes, the galaxy nexus is slightly brighter at max than the gs4 at full...esp the whites. I cant imagine it's defective or different than others...

It's pretty damned bright. I usually just crank the brightness...this is the first Android device I have used that I prefer autobrightness.

GS4 Dimmer Than Galaxy Nexus at Full Brightness
Here are some pics I snapped of both phones at full brightness with no auto-anything on and GS4 is on Dynamic for Screen mode (and no auto tone).
GS4 is on the right. Notice how the GNex is slightly brighter in all cases (and even more so in person- the whites just really blow out bright and are blinding white).
Is this normal or not? Do you think this comes down to difference in screens/hardware suppliers? GNex is on newest AOKP too if that matters for screen settings/calibration at all.
The GS4 is plenty bright to me but I question things when comparing these:
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If it is indeed not as bright as the nexus, then it may be a faulty phone. The brightness of the phone or lack there of, should not make you question it.
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guts311 said:
I noticed that my Verizon Galaxy S4 is much dimmer compared to my Galaxy Nexus at any matched brightness, especially full.
The Nexus just has that blinding brightness at full and the S4 doesn't, especially next to each other.
Is everyone else with both phones seeing the same?
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No way! The Gnexus is almost impossible to read outside, the S4 cannot possibly be worse.

barondebxl said:
No way! The Gnexus is almost impossible to read outside, the S4 cannot possibly be worse.
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The S4 screen is a few iterations newer than the gnex. I sure hope its better in the sun.

guts311 said:
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Which weather widget are you using?

mutelight said:
Which weather widget are you using?
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It's GO Weather EX w/ the Outside theme.
So no one else has this same outcome when comparing their gs4 to their gnex??

The colors in that picture from the galaxy nexus look completely washed out and dull. Side by side my S4 blows away the nexus screen on brightness, color and clarity.

dansan382 said:
The colors in that picture from the galaxy nexus look completely washed out and dull. Side by side my S4 blows away the nexus screen on brightness, color and clarity.
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So everyone else who has compared, the Gnex never looks brighter than their S4 at max like it does in mine? Honestly?

guts311 said:
So everyone else who has compared, the Gnex never looks brighter than their S4 at max like it does in mine? Honestly?
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Nope. My S4 blows away my gnex

dansan382 said:
Nope. My S4 blows away my gnex
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I'm not talking about the colors or sharpness or clarity or anything, just brightness. The S4 is better at all those other things.

guts311 said:
I'm not talking about the colors or sharpness or clarity or anything, just brightness. The S4 is better at all those other things.
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Same answer bud. Sorry. Blows it away

Hey this is guts311 again (OP), on a different user name.
Thanks for the feedback. Dansan, can you possibly post a similar comparison pic with the two phones for me to see what I am supposed to be seeing at max on both? I would really appreciate it.
Are any else's menu and back buttons also fairly dull at all times except for in the dark? I can always see them when they are lit up, but sometimes they are too dim even in decent light. Maybe this is all related.

just4747 said:
Hey this is guts311 again (OP), on a different user name.
Thanks for the feedback. Dansan, can you possibly post a similar comparison pic with the two phones for me to see what I am supposed to be seeing at max on both? I would really appreciate it.
Are any else's menu and back buttons also fairly dull at all times except for in the dark? I can always see them when they are lit up, but sometimes they are too dim even in decent light. Maybe this is all related.
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I'm not home right now but when I get home late tonight I'll take a picture for ya.

dansan382 said:
I'm not home right now but when I get home late tonight I'll take a picture for ya.
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Thank you man.

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[Q] Galaxy SII blueish tint on screen, anyone?

Hi,
Just got my Galaxy SII today.
Compared to my old LG Optimus 2X, the screen is very dim, although very colorful. The whites are incredibly blue, as can be seen here:
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The Optimus (to the left) is with automatic brightness enabled, and the SII (to the right, duh!) is with brightness set to max, manually.
The screen seems VERY blue compared to the Optimus.
Is this normal with the SII?
puttitat said:
Hi,
Just got my Galaxy SII today.
Compared to my old LG Optimus 2X, the screen is very dim, although very colorful. The whites are incredibly blue, as can be seen here:
The Optimus (to the left) is with automatic brightness enabled, and the SII (to the right, duh!) is with brightness set to max, manually.
The screen seems VERY blue compared to the Optimus.
Is this normal with the SII?
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There's definitely color variations across different examples of the phones ranging from cool to warm. The warm seems to bug people more than the cool. In this long and painful thread you can see some pics of other phones side-by-side to see where yours falls.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
Mine's on the cool side but I can't tell from the way you took the pic how different it is from yours. There's some pics of mine in the above thread.
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Mine's on the cool side but I can't tell from the way you took the pic how different it is from yours. There's some pics of mine in the above thread.
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It just bothers me that the Optimus 2x which havent been marketed on base of it's screen, beats the hell out of the GS2, in brightness and color trueness.
puttitat said:
It just bothers me that the Optimus 2x which havent been marketed on base of it's screen, beats the hell out of the GS2, in brightness and color trueness.
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I had a G2X, the O2X's bastard relation. I liked the G2X display but thought the contrast was just OK and it didn't perform well in daylight. The SGS2 screen because of the black-blacks and exaggerated colors took some getting used to. After two months, I look at an LCD display now and go ewww. You'll probably feel the same way when you get over the shock. Watch a movie, that'll make you feel better
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I had a G2X, the O2X's bastard relation. I liked the G2X display but thought the contrast was just OK and it didn't perform well in daylight. The SGS2 screen because of the black-blacks and exaggerated colors took some getting used to. After two months, I look at an LCD display now and go ewww. You'll probably feel the same way when you get over the shock. Watch a movie, that'll make you feel better
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I appreciate your input, although the blue is so bad, it gives people in the vids a kind of smurf-ish look.
And besides that, the off-center viewing angle makes the blue tint even worse. The reviews praise the wide viewing-angle, which is as arrow as about 30-40 degress before the colors gets distorted.
ammm,,,i dont think that that much bluish tint is normal,,,,u sure u dint get a faulty handset??i mean yeah super amoled plus has a bit of a bluish tint,,,,but man! thats too much blue....(ps-i compared mine to some lcd screens so dont tell me to place it beside one)
puttitat said:
I appreciate your input, although the blue is so bad, it gives people in the vids a kind of smurf-ish look.
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That's one of the funniest things I've read in a while. No, that's not normal. Definitely exchange the phone.
BarryH_GEG said:
That's one of the funniest things I've read in a while. No, that's not normal. Definitely exchange the phone.
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It seems as if the problem degrades slowly over time... Hmm...
The viewing angle issue can be seen here:
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Shot with my EOS 60D.
As you can see, you can't move the camera much before the colors go even more smurf.
I think the blue tint is related to the Super AMOLED Plus technology.
mjeshurun said:
I think the blue tint is related to the Super AMOLED Plus technology.
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yes,,Amoled technology alwayz had this issue,,,its very slight,,,u can not notice it that easily,,,but that much blue is not normal...
It actually seems as you'll have to look at the phone from a very straight angle, as only a few degrees will result in the blueish colors. And the weird part is - going a few degrees further will result in normal-ish colors (yet still very dim) - and afterwards turn into blueish again, "the rest of the way", if you catch my drift.
I'd go blue over yellow any day. But that's too blue and whoever you bought it from would have to be blind to not see it; return it. I hope you didn't buy it off eBay...
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I bought it from my phone subscription company, so it shouldn't prove that big of a deal.
Thats too blue to be normal, have it replaced.
EarlZ said:
Thats too blue to be normal, have it replaced.
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I'll try visting the local repair center. Hope they can see the problem.
My SGSII is blue too. Is the voodoo app working for this phone?
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Got my galaxy s2 couple of days ago from expansys, it has no blue tint or yellow left side, the only thing it has is on lowest brighness setting on grey background bottom right corner you can barely see some kind of ring like shadow . Good thing you can only see it under that situation only.
Feel bad for others with blue tint and yellow side , get replacement ?
My captivate(SGS 1) and SGS2 both have same even whites.
Hard to see even harder to photograph shadow ring.
The ring thing is called the "coin syndrome".
The service center wouldn't acknowledge the blueishness as a defect, even though my phone compared to a demo GSII was an electronic smurf.
The blue tint is probably from the Gorilla Glass coating.
Sharpshooterrr said:
The blue tint is probably from the Gorilla Glass coating.
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So not every Galaxy S II is Gorilla Glass coated?

Nexus 6P vs. Note 5 brightness [not mines]

u/ariloche123 from r/Nexus6P was able to compare the screens from the 6P and Note 5, side by side. They aren't the best pics in the world but it's clear that the screen on the 6P is pretty close to the Note 5's
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Both displays have adaptive off i think.
Here's the link to the thread in question https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3qbey1/nexus_6p_graphite_next_to_a_note_5/
you cant really tell from the pics but the note 5 is clearly brighter and sharper but not by that much
hello00 said:
you cant really tell from the pics but the note 5 is clearly brighter and sharper but not by that much
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Brighter, sure, but sharper? The font on the 6p is smaller and different so its hard to compare.
That pic is so blurry and basically no info.. Nothing can be gleaned from that.
the screen on the note 5 looks larger.. maybe because of the smaller bezels and off screen buttons? (i can't see any quality/brightness differences from this pic haha)
the only thing i got from this thread is "mines"
They look the same to me. But, I do understand tech nerds need straws to grasp at for every phone release..so be it.
/shrug
MKBHD claimed that the Note 5 has a brighter screen. Nothing different with sharpness.
akarol said:
MKBHD claimed that the Note 5 has a brighter screen. Nothing different with sharpness.
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He does good reviews but I don't see him as someone who is going to go out of his way to compare the displays with adaptive off. The pictures in this thread tell a lot regarding brightness. I'll have the 6P tomorrow and I'll be able to test this on my own.
Well this was a worthless comparison. They both are equally as bright and sharp indoors. It's outside where the differences are apparent. The Note 5 gets significantly brighter outside than the Nexus 6P does. And thats what will matter to most people. Rememeber the Nexus 6? Couldn't see that screen outside at all. 6P is better, but not in Note territory.
Gotta love it how desperate nexus users are to convince themselves that the nexus has same awesome display as the note 5 lmao
Even if Nexus 6P has the exact same screen as the Note 5, it will never reach the same brightness as it does on the Note 5.
If you have used an S6 or a Note 5 in sunlight with auto brightness enabled, you will have noticed a definitive "step" in max brightness. The first step is the theoretical max brightness of the display and the following step is the overboost capability which sacrifices contrast to briefly boost the brightness beyond the regular brightness.
This capability is absent in the Nexus 6P, the maximum brightness that you set with the brightness slider is the maximum brightness you will get.
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luciferiusXI said:
Gotta love it how desperate nexus users are to convince themselves that the nexus has same awesome display as the note 5 lmao
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It factually does.... just maybe doesnt get as bright. God forbid people compare.
WoodroweBones said:
It factually does.... just maybe doesnt get as bright. God forbid people compare.
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Don't pay him any mind. There's been about 3-4 people that have played around in the 6P forum for the past month with practically nothing positive to say about the phone and he's one of them. If you have nothing positive to say about the phone, you probably don't want it, and if you don't want it, why are you here other than to spew nonsense? He probably has the Note 5 if you check his past posts.
The two photoes are not clear, so hard to which screen is the best one .
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Don't pay him any mind. There's been about 3-4 people that have played around in the 6P forum for the past month with practically nothing positive to say about the phone and he's one of them. If you have nothing positive to say about the phone, you probably don't want it, and if you don't want it, why are you here other than to spew nonsense? He probably has the Note 5 if you check his past posts.
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I got the 6p yesterday and it is a great phone. It is users like you that wish it had exact screen like note 5 because you know it has the best. Let me help you though, nexus 6p screen feels different from note 5. More close to note 4 screen which wasn't bad actually. But hey samsung phones suck right, I doubt you have ever used one of them, so I am not even sure why you feel the need to compare them to the 6p ?
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I got the 6p yesterday and it is a great phone. It is users like you that wish it had exact screen like note 5 because you know it has the best. Let me help you though, nexus 6p screen feels different from note 5. More close to note 4 screen which wasn't bad actually. But hey samsung phones suck right, I doubt you have ever used one of them, so I am not even sure why you feel the need to compare them to the 6p
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You've got some real issues hey? The 6P is using "The latest generation AMOLED panel from Samsung". So are you implying the Note 5 does NOT use the latest generation AMOLED panel? Maybe the 6P has the same panel as the Note 6 will have then?
I realize its useless trying to reason with you as reasoning isnt your strong point... but its the same panel, they simply limited the max brightness for battery reasons likely.
Anywho in the future I'll be sure to remind anyone who dares compare the screen of a phone to one made by Samsung that they are idiots for doing so and shouldnt even bother
The outdoor viewing is what worries me the most, honestly. I had a Note 4 before this ip6+ and I remember a huge difference between that phone and this one as far as being able to read it outside.
Yup, me too.
I have an S6 now, and I can honestly say it's awesome in direct sunlight.
But then again I'd still rather have a Nexus anyday. For that one small thing, I will sacrifice and max out the brightness slider and cover the phone so I can see it if necessary.
Where is my Nexus anyway? It's in post limbo at the moment between my house and the local post office. Doh!!!
Sigh... Brighter is not better except in direct sunlight. The rest of the time it f's up all of the colors on the internet as the internet is designed to be viewed in sRGB color space. I swear a part of my spirit dies each time I hear people talking about how fabulous Samsung's oversaturated unrealistic screens look. Those colors are nothing but comic book land.
...I am crossing my fingers that the sRGB mode on this phone is half decent or it is getting returned ASAP.

Display goes "pale"??

Hey guys!
so this has happened to me a few times now with this V10... I'm not sure what to make of it, and haven't been able to nail down a fix or cause... But the screen starts to randomly display blacks as greys the whole screen seems to go pale or grey... Like this, with Tapatalk I have the dark theme, its black normally, but here its grey. The only thing that fixes is a lock then unlock, but that doesn't keep it fixed. It will go away within a few minutes, but strange. Any opinions?
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It doesn't appear on the screenshot, which is weird. ...
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
It doesn't appear on the screenshot, which is weird. ...
Matt
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Yeah had the issue on all three v10's Ive owned. The first two had to do a factory reset. This one did it once and that was it. Don't know what causes it, but it's a backlight thing. This is why it's not showing up in the screen shot.
I've seen the phone adjust contrast such that the screen appears lighter (blacks become grays, etc). This only happens when the phone is in direct sunlight. It's apparently a "feature" to help you see the screen better, with no way of disabling. It does go back to normal as soon as you get the sensor out of direct sunlight.
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I've seen the phone adjust contrast such that the screen appears lighter (blacks become grays, etc). This only happens when the phone is in direct sunlight. It's apparently a "feature" to help you see the screen better, with no way of disabling. It does go back to normal as soon as you get the sensor out of direct sunlight.
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Yeah I was just playing around with it earlier. Moving it from sun to shade and yes it does adjust contrast so you can see it better with sunglasses on..
Swizzle82 said:
Yeah I was just playing around with it earlier. Moving it from sun to shade and yes it does adjust contrast so you can see it better with sunglasses on..
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Quite trippy... That does seem right, I notice it when I have my phone out and walk to the car on break.
Thanks.
Matt
Very true this feature has been implemented since the g4 or even the g3 perhaps as well. Gets annoying when it gets to gray in direct sunlight but honestly it does help and more better visibility.
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Very true this feature has been implemented since the g4 or even the g3 perhaps as well. Gets annoying when it gets to gray in direct sunlight but honestly it does help and more better visibility.
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Never happened on my g4 or 3..
Swizzle82 said:
Never happened on my g4 or 3..
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Didn't happen to my G3, either one of the two I had...
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It doesn't happen in G3 and it was implemented first (AFAIK) with Lumia 920 which is another proof that that device was way ahead of its time.
It helps a lot under direct sunlight and I'm very pleased to see it being implemented with V10.
wadamean said:
Very true this feature has been implemented since the g4 or even the g3 perhaps as well. Gets annoying when it gets to gray in direct sunlight but honestly it does help and more better visibility.
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It is a feature. Much like the Notion Ink Adam with pixel qi screen, would act like a paper White type screen on readers when exposed to strong light or direct Sun light. Any other device or phone in same situations I've not been able to see or read the screen eve with Hand over it to shadow, except my G4 and now v10. Love the feature.
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I've seen the phone adjust contrast such that the screen appears lighter (blacks become grays, etc). This only happens when the phone is in direct sunlight. It's apparently a "feature" to help you see the screen better, with no way of disabling. It does go back to normal as soon as you get the sensor out of direct sunlight.
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It's possible the proximity sensor detects ultraviolet (from the Sun) to determine it's outdoor.
Cover it with your finger to see.
Yes I have noticed this feature also and I must say it does work really good!
I've found it to be a help, now that I expect it. It is exactly that, doees it in sunlight. Thanks guys!
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tersagun said:
It doesn't happen in G3 and it was implemented first (AFAIK) with Lumia 920 which is another proof that that device was way ahead of its time.
It helps a lot under direct sunlight and I'm very pleased to see it being implemented with V10.
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This was also a feature on the note 4. I find it very useful.
Also. Doesn't the lumia deal with it a different way? I had the T-Mobile lumia 810 with clearback(?) Technology and when outdoors the screen didn't seem to do the same where it gets very bright and light. It was as if you were looking at the screen indoors
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This was also a feature on the note 4. I find it very useful.
Also. Doesn't the lumia deal with it a different way? I had the T-Mobile lumia 810 with clearback(?) Technology and when outdoors the screen didn't seem to do the same where it gets very bright and light. It was as if you were looking at the screen indoors
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They might have different screens, not sure. But Lumia 920 goes very grayish under sun; blacks becoming dark gray etc.

Investigating what display mounts the 6P

Thinking, I concluded that, to clear up the confusion about if the panel is from Note 5, S6, Note 4, the best thing we can do is to put the Nexus 6P under the microscope. And if we can take pics, it would be great.
Has someone a microscope?
There's pictures showing the matrix of Note 4, S5, S6, etc in Phonearena to compare.
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Thinking, I concluded that, to clear up the confusion about if the panel is from Note 5, S6, Note 4, the best thing we can do is to put the Nexus 6P under the microscope. And if we can take pics, it would be great.
Has someone a microscope?
There's pictures showing the matrix of Note 4, S5, S6, etc in Phonearena to compare.
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Lol the lengths some people go to , its an awesome display.
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Lol the lengths some people go to , its an awesome display.
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Does this bothers you?
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Does this bothers you?
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No, it's just a bit crazy don't ya think? Just my opinion.
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No, it's just a bit crazy don't ya think? Just my opinion.
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The screen is great, yes. But there's so much confusion about what screen is. I think is good to have curiosity.
i'll see if i can whip out my 1:1 macro lens (the best I can do) and take a picture of the note 5 and the nexus 6p's screen later today
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i'll see if i can whip out my 1:1 macro lens (the best I can do) and take a picture of the note 5 and the nexus 6p's screen later today
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That would be great!
The idea is to examine a full white point in the phone, so we can see the matrix.
For example, this is from a S6 Edge+:
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Thank you.
Here's what I managed to get with a Canon 100mm f/2.8 macro lens at 1:1 with a 5D Mk II. I did it handheld while the phone rested in a phone holder so it might not be fully in focus.
It's a 100% crop of a small part of the picture so you probably need a higher macro ratio to get a closer look. The screen is set at 100% brightness and showing a full white image. It looks like it's the same pixel layout as the S6 edge+ looks like it was set at half brightness.
Google already confirmed it's latest gen samsung panel: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/30/confirmed-nexus-6p-has-latest-gen-samsung-amoled-panel/
Brightness is indeed (much) lower than S6/note 5, not sure why ...
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Here's what I managed to get with a Canon 100mm f/2.8 macro lens at 1:1 with a 5D Mk II. I did it handheld while the phone rested in a phone holder so it might not be fully in focus.
It's a 100% crop of a small part of the picture so you probably need a higher macro ratio to get a closer look. The screen is set at 100% brightness and showing a full white image. It looks like it's the same pixel layout as the S6 edge+ looks like it was set at half brightness.
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I really appreciate a lot the work you have done. Honestly, thank you.
I investigated and the Note 4 shares the diamond shape of blue and red subpixels, and oval green subpixel with S6 and Note 5. I thought we would see more differences. But your comment about the Nexus 6P panel looks like the one of the S6 Edge+ with half brightness is good!
Hopefully something like a High Brightness Mode is hidden, like in the Nexus 6. If it's latest generation panel, we'll be able to make it brighter without burn-in.
Thank you ever so much, this has been extremely helpful.
Samsung previously never sold any of its latest gen AMOLED panels to any mobile phone manufacturer. Motorola phones from the past couple of years that used AMOLED panels were using those that were 1 or 2 generations behind the ones on Samsung flagships. That was its advantage and it looks like it might have changed its policy with the Nexus 6P.
I don't think it's that simple. Samsung could be selling to Huawei panels that are below the top grade but not bad enough to throw away - they may be using the highest quality ones for their Note 5 and S6 displays but providing those that didn't make the cut to Huawei for a good discount. That explains how some of us might be getting colour bands/shifts in the pink and green regions on our displays.
So I just went through the kernel defconfig to see what LCD panel it selects. It doesnt. I'm not sure yet how it works but I think it just uses a generic driver.
I wonder what's going on here. Did samsung manufacture a special panel for the Nexus 6p ? Or did they use an existing panel but just used some trick to lower max brightness ? In which case we might unlock higher brightness ...
Is there any way to turn the brightness up on the 6P yet? I like being able to increase the saturation with Ex Kernal, but no options for boosting brightness past stock yet. Is pushing brightness past stock even safe to do on the 6P? Or even possible?
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Samsung previously never sold any of its latest gen AMOLED panels to any mobile phone manufacturer. Motorola phones from the past couple of years that used AMOLED panels were using those that were 1 or 2 generations behind the ones on Samsung flagships. That was its advantage and it looks like it might have changed its policy with the Nexus 6P.
I don't think it's that simple. Samsung could be selling to Huawei panels that are below the top grade but not bad enough to throw away - they may be using the highest quality ones for their Note 5 and S6 displays but providing those that didn't make the cut to Huawei for a good discount. That explains how some of us might be getting colour bands/shifts in the pink and green regions on our displays.
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AMOLED panels are made from a wafer. They simply use the panels from the centre of the wafer for their flagships and sell the ones from the border which will not be as good (uneven colors, lower brightness, ...).
Knowing that this is a hot topic on*/r/android, I brought up the fact that testing has shown that on the Nexus 6P, its display has a lower maximum brightness and higher display power consumption than seen on the Note 5—key indicators of the AMOLED panel generation—I received knowing acknowledgement. So it turns out that the display panel is the same, but that much like the practice of CPU/SoC binning, there is variation inherent in AMOLED panel fabrication. Here, Google was able to procure the lower binned, yet current-generation displays from Samsung for the Nexus 6P.
Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3ws16x/everything_i_learned_about_nexus_at_the_nyc_nexus/
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How common are grainy/noisy displays?

Mine looks a bit like the image on the left, and I am just wondering if this is very common and it would take multiple returns to get a better display.
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Probably just the early production. Mine is perfect and nobody in the same buying group (around 100 people or more) complained.
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Mine looks a bit like the image on the left, and I am just wondering if this is very common and it would take multiple returns to get a better display.
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Mine is grainy, too. I'm thinking of contacting LG for a fix or a replacement. It shows mostly on the camera. The photos are garbage. Even one of the cameras' lenses is shifted to the bottom a little lol
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My display is completely free from noise or banding or whatever at any brightness level or color. An excellent display.
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Mine looks a bit like the image on the left, and I am just wondering if this is very common and it would take multiple returns to get a better display.
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It looked really bad and that way (like a paper texture) on my display when using the battery saver when turning down the display resolution to lower brightness levels (on LG Stock ROM).
This was something I noticed quite heavily at the beginning when getting the device.
HOWEVER
I haven't seen this on non-Stock firmwares so far, even in lower brightness.
Looks like it could be an effect of power saving measures on Stock firmware which exposes the grainyness of the Diamond Pentile Matrix of the display more
The same thing happens to me while using the cameras in low light. Is this not an issue with all units?
Edit: This goes away completely if the brightness is above 50%
Here's an example. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5Xjwch17Dqqt2NUV8
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sinnerz2000 said:
The same thing happens to me while using the cameras in low light. Is this not an issue with all units?
Edit: This goes away completely if the brightness is above 50%
Here's an example. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5Xjwch17Dqqt2NUV8
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I can confirm that as well, high brightness eliminates the bloching, especially in dark gray tones. however, something even more weird, brightness of 25% or lower can make some shades of gray completely disapear! they simply turn to black!
ferez said:
I can confirm that as well, high brightness eliminates the bloching, especially in dark gray tones. however, something even more weird, brightness of 25% or lower can make some shades of gray completely disapear! they simply turn to black!
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Just checked with a YouTube reviewer. He says that this is a known issue with all LG poled displays (v30, v30s and Pixel XL). So replacement won't really help me.
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Got my replacement phone and it's still just as bad, I love the phone otherwise but the screen is terrible and it's hard to get over it. The low brightness and yellow-ish colors(White mainly) I could tolerate but not these noisy sandpaperish display. Don't wanna deal with more returns and stuff so back to Essential phone.
The grainy display only is on grey backgrounds on low brightness and is completely gone if I increase the brightness a bit. I can deal with that for a display this good. BTW my hardware version is displayed as v1.1, maybe you should get that.
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The grainy display only is on grey backgrounds on low brightness and is completely gone if I increase the brightness a bit. I can deal with that for a display this good. BTW my hardware version is displayed as v1.1, maybe you should get that.
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I'm experiencing a grainy display as well and have a hardware version 1.0 - what do you mean by 'getting that'?
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I'm experiencing a grainy display as well and have a hardware version 1.0 - what do you mean by 'getting that'?
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What's your brightness level?
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What's your brightness level?
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The grain is noticable on every brightness level. Drove to 7 different phone shops and finally found one on display and was perfect (no grain), going to get mine replaced...
Perfect display here. It's actually my second V30+. Overall I have 2 big gripes. The crushed blacks and maximum brightness. V40 apparently fixed those 2 things
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Perfect display here. It's actually my second V30+. Overall I have 2 big gripes. The crushed blacks and maximum brightness. V40 apparently fixed those 2 things
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Mine is a hw version 1.1 and I see grainy/blotchy greys at brightness under 40%.
V40 may have fixed this but it has a notch. Maybe I'll upgrade if the v50 is a fullview display.
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