Gotta love our Devs, they give us so much. I know this sub-forum is a bit biased toward the ONE but I gotta ask somewhere.
I am ready to upgrade my Galaxy S3 to either the S4 or the ONE. Specs notwithstanding, which device has better 3rd party support?
(AKA: Roms and development, unlocked bootloaders, ease of rooting, ease of restoring in event of a bad flash or corrupt filesystem...ect).
I have used HTC devices in the past and from past experience, the flashing & rooting part is comparable to the Samsung devices of that time. Not sure if anything has changed since on the HTC end. Working with the S3 is cake.
My last 3 phones have been HTC, Mike has always provided excellent releases and roms. I've seen good roms from Baadnews and shnizlon as well. There are tons of devs here, I can't speak on each of them. For kernels, we have flar2 and faux123; again can't speak on other kernels.
I've never used a galaxy, but I'd guess they have equally excellent devs.
Just by numbers, I'll assume s4 will outsell one, therefore, there's a higher likelihood more people will get into deving.
rooting etc. of the one was easy. the only thing that takes some time is not having removable storage.
Just check the number of threads in the dev portion for HTC One (not the T-mobile HTC One) and compare.
Wait on the Google AOSP versions of each. Done.
Prob s4.
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You need to ask yourself what are you looking for in the development community. Do you hate touchwiz? Do you prefer Sense?
With AOSP releases of both of these devices, unless the hardware changes, I see no difference in the possibilities. They should both be able to get AOSP versions quickly. Samsung does seem a little quicker in the update department as of late but for me I prefer the Sense experience more then touchwiz.
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I like one better
Well since every rom except sprint works on the one. And only American roms work on the s4 I'm going to say the one.
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Dev support will be about equal once the Google Editions of each are released. It's a matter of if you like Sense or TW, or if you like AOSP. If you are using AOSP, look solely at the hardware of the phone.
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Why is there so much development for the Thunderbolt compared to other phones like the Droid Charge?
Hardware wise the bolt is better would be my guess, plus its just a nice device.
Bamfin' my bolt
its been out longer, its from htc so you can port newer sense versions, its a lot cheaper than many of the newer smart phones, at stock it doesn't utilize its full potential so there was lots of room for improvement, and it has a KICKSTAND!
There's a lot of long term hate in the development base of xda against samsung because:
1) Driver issues in the phones (gps, etc)
2) They have a history of being slow to update and release the GPLed kernel sources as well as the android version updates (though they now admit they were and are promising to do better). No sources = no modding
3) Many people do not like touchwiz or modding it.
4) A lot of people consider the charge an inferior phone (even compared to other samsung android phones).
It's unlocked.
As a former Galaxy S owner, I say "Eff Samsung!'
never again. HTC only for me.
I originally was going to buy the Sensation on TMobile, but bought the Tbolt due to LTE, better price, no rebates, plus TMo wouldn't work with me on fulfilling their promotions.
This. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896933
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Alright, I am not here to discuss the hardware of the HTC Amaze. I am in the workings of getting a new phone obviously my choices lay between the Amaze and Galaxy S2. I have had an android phone since the G1 and now have the G2. My question (and I am not hating) even though this phone is in the early stages of its lifecycle, do you guys think that the dev support for this phone will be like it is for the G2?
I realize the hard work the devs are doing for this phone (xboarder) and like, I appreciate all the work they do, cause without them we would have nothing. If I knew half the things you guys do about the android file system I am just wondering what the possibilites are?
Please no flaming or trolling, very disrespectful.
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Alright, I am not here to discuss the hardware of the HTC Amaze. I am in the workings of getting a new phone obviously my choices lay between the Amaze and Galaxy S2. I have had an android phone since the G1 and now have the G2. My question (and I am not hating) even though this phone is in the early stages of its lifecycle, do you guys think that the dev support for this phone will be like it is for the G2?
I realize the hard work the devs are doing for this phone (xboarder) and like, I appreciate all the work they do, cause without them we would have nothing. If I knew half the things you guys do about the android file system I am just wondering what the possibilites are?
Please no flaming or trolling, very disrespectful.
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I think that most members around here would agree that the devs are waiting for ICS to be released for the Amaze before they start doing some hardcore stuff.
The ROMs are here, don't get me wrong but we only have about 3 or 4 devs by my count that are pushing out all those ROMs.
Xboarder himself has got like 4 to 5 that he already has out or is working on.
I'd like to believe that when ICS hits we would draw other devs.
Although that's not a for sure thing.
Either way, having it announced that ICS WILL come to the Amaze is enough of a reason to pick it up as your first choice, right?
To sum it all up we're waiting for ICS and true S-Off.
I'm sure with those two things in hand ROMs will take off.
Hope that helps.
I totally agree on the count of ICS, a lot of the devices are going through the same "dry spell." It does help, it nice to have a little reassurance, you know?
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The Amaze has great dev support (albeit from one, but he's awesome) but I don't think it'll be anything like the G2 was. The G2 had two main things going for it: first, it was a stock Android experience. Second, Steve Kondik (cyanogen) had told many people that he was going to be using the device as a daily driver. So many devs flocked his way. Let's just say the only reason I have the Amaze right now is because my G2 stopped working and I didn't know where to get another one. It was all the phone I needed at the time, and was trying to hold out for the Nexus.
I think the GS2 has better support for now, but that should change once ICS drops. If you really want a ton of development support, I say go for the Nexus. Me, I'm happy with the Amaze and QuickSense!
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The Amaze has great dev support (albeit from one, but he's awesome) but I don't think it'll be anything like the G2 was. The G2 had two main things going for it: first, it was a stock Android experience. Second, Steve Kondik (cyanogen) had told many people that he was going to be using the device as a daily driver. So many devs flocked his way. Let's just say the only reason I have the Amaze right now is because my G2 stopped working and I didn't know where to get another one. It was all the phone I needed at the time, and was trying to hold out for the Nexus.
I think the GS2 has better support for now, but that should change once ICS drops. If you really want a ton of development support, I say go for the Nexus. Me, I'm happy with the Amaze and QuickSense!
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Good point, I wish I could wait for the Nexas, but I am selling my G2 to a family member and I told them I would this month. <-Dilemma
What made you choose the Amaze, if you don't mind me asking? I love my HTC phones, it would be different having a Samsung.
I made the same lineage, g1 to g2. And tbh I couldn't imagine using a phone that isn't htc (quality wise), I know the dev'ing will never be @ the g2 level, but we have some awesome devs and a strong device with promise of ics.
The zero lag shutter and unified sense 3.0 ui was an easy sell for me. If Samsung had produced the all white ver. sans that terrible touch wiz at the time of my purchase I might have made a different choice.
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Good point, I wish I could wait for the Nexas, but I am selling my G2 to a family member and I told them I would this month. <-Dilemma
What made you choose the Amaze, if you don't mind me asking? I love my HTC phones, it would be different having a Samsung.
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It compared them side by side in the store and for all the hype of the SAMOLED+ screen, it kinda reminded me of the original iPhone - less pixels stretched over a bigger screen. The Amaze looked great. PPI is where it's at!
I would rather have had the Samsung from a development standpoint (no locked bootloader and such) but the screen in the GS2 sucked balls.
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It compared them side by side in the store and for all the hype of the SAMOLED+ screen, it kinda reminded me of the original iPhone - less pixels stretched over a bigger screen. The Amaze looked great. PPI is where it's at!
I would rather have had the Samsung from a development standpoint (no locked bootloader and such) but the screen in the GS2 sucked balls.
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^agreed on both counts^
Which is why I'm still considering the Nexus... no locked bootloader BS and it has an even higher PPI than the Amaze (over 300 vs ~250). The best of both worlds!
I for one believe development is doing great for the lack of open sources. The thing is that the amaze is really great straight out of the box that little development actual needs to be done except we all want custom kernels which would help our battery life and heck make it even smoother.
A lot of other phones development section has a lot of support but not all the roms and kernels being developed are being used, so you shouldn't compare and say since some phones has a lot of roms it has better support. I for one want quality over quantity.
But honestly once things are fully released for the amaze, developers will come. However, not many would want to compile a ROM or kernel from scratch like x and faux are working on. remember this phone is barely 2 months old. You'll see a huge expansion by January.
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I made the same lineage, g1 to g2. And tbh I couldn't imagine using a phone that isn't htc (quality wise), I know the dev'ing will never be @ the g2 level, but we have some awesome devs and a strong device with promise of ics.
The zero lag shutter and unified sense 3.0 ui was an easy sell for me. If Samsung had produced the all white ver. sans that terrible touch wiz at the time of my purchase I might have made a different choice.
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Can't you just install Launcher Pro (or similar)? That should replace Touchwiz.
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Can't you just install Launcher Pro (or similar)? That should replace Touchwiz.
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TouchWiz and Sense both are throughout the entire OS. Replacing the launcher only really fixes the homescreen.
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TouchWiz and Sense both are throughout the entire OS. Replacing the launcher only really fixes the homescreen.
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Ah. I thought the problem was with the homescreen arrangement. I acutally like the Sense enhancements like the extra widgets & etc.
Last month I was forced to decide between an Amaze and a Galaxy S2.
I also had a G1 and a G2. I used the vibrant for a while but i preferred my G2 mainly b/c of the keyboard. I played with the Amaze and the S2. I preferred the amaze because i would choose sense over touchwiz. And what really drew me to the amaze was the qHD resolution. If the s2 had a qHD resolution, i think i'd still be deciding what i want. Hope this helps
Hey guys, I've seen a lot of threads about our Amaze vs the SGS2, but not a whole lot about our Amaze vs the Galaxy Nexus. I could get a swap pretty easily, but I'm still on the fence about this, so I made a little list of reasons for and against the swap. I also want the opinions of my fellow Amaze users so your input is much appreciated!
Reasons to stay with the Amaze 4G
- the camera is MUCH better than the Galaxy Nexus, no contest there.
- the Galaxy Nexus has no microSD slot!
- the Amaze 4G is going to get the ICS update eventually, and with that, probably CM9 and more development
- the Amaze 4G has much better build quality
- the Amaze 4G has the option of HTC Sense ROMs for those who prefer it
Reasons to switch to the Galaxy Nexus
- the camera is inferior, however, it's still a decent camera that can replace your basic point and shoot
- 16 GB of storage is enough for most people, it may be inconvenient, but it can be bearable
- the Galaxy Nexus already has ICS, and since it's a world phone, it also has a much bigger development base
- the Galaxy Nexus sacrifices build quality for thinness and lightness, which some may prefer
- even though the screen is a pentile display, many may prefer the SAMOLED and higher resolution screen on the Galaxy Nexus over the SLCD screen on the Amaze
- it's a Google phone, meaning that it will most likely get the latest firmware updates (might even get to see Jellybean!)
- there are no soft keys, which means no soft key bleed problem so you'll have keys that are actually given a chance to light up (a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place)
Miscellaneous
- the Amaze is clocked at 1.5 GHz and the GNexus at 1.2 GHz, but it does not necessarily mean that the Amaze is faster. In fact, while playing games and running apps, I actually found the GNexus to run a tiny bit faster than the Amaze, but in other cases, the Amaze seems to out-perform the GNexus by a little bit, so the speed difference between the two CPUs is not as big as you think and may even be considered negligible
- both phones have a multi-coloured notification LED
- put yourself in my shoes, if you were offered a straight-up trade, your Amaze 4G for a (like) brand-new Galaxy Nexus, what would you do?
What do you folks think? I love the camera on the Amaze but the handset's shortcomings are really beginning to bother me. To be honest, if I had known that HTC wasn't as developer-friendly as they claimed to be, I wouldn't have picked the Amaze up, but at the same time, the Galaxy Nexus also has its fair share of weaknesses.
I would have to keep my Amaze, simply because I found myself changing between aosp and sense Roms on my incredible. And since that it right around the corner...
I like sense too much to completely get rid of it, sometimes I do need a break from it though.
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I would accept the trade man. Hands down the nexus the device to get because of the support from google.
I've always wanted to try the galaxy nexus... Skeptical though since its built by Samsung. :screwy:
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Eh, I don't like Samsung phones, and there is always something I don't like from the nexus phones......
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It's a fair trade, I'll just mention 2 things, you can't un-see the pentile layout, once you notice, you'll always notice, and yes... it IS noticeable (but bearable on 720).
also, Amoled screens burn in, so 6 months from now you'll have some solid color spashscreen on the phone, and notice that you can see your softkeys hinted inside of it, I know 3 people with the GNex, and it's already happening to them.
As mentioned the camera is decent, but not as good as the Amaze.
Jellybean will be on it VERY shortly after being released. It comes with PURE aosp, and CM9 will have no bugs other than ones caused by modifications to AOSP... The Amaze CPU is faster, but with a 3.0 kernel and ICS, the GNex is quicker for most things.
I love my Amaze, and the second I can have AOSP ICS and a 3.x kernel, I'd probably disagree with the trade, but for now, it's worth it.
I would stick with the Amaze. The point about the CPU difference will change greatly when the amaze gets ICS. GB isn't dual core optimised while ICS is.
The only thing that the GN has over the Amaze is official Google support and look how that turned out for the Nexus S and ICS... It took forever!
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The only thing that the GN has over the Amaze is official Google support and look how that turned out for the Nexus S and ICS... It took forever!
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But it had CM9 builds almost immediately, and it didn't take long for the international Nexus S. The SPH-D720 is hardly a Nexus phone, it's a carrier phone, it works only on sprint, it's sold in their storefronts, and was never a "developer" phone. Although it took a little while for the i9020a/t to get ICS, they had a fully working build pretty much immediately after AOSP ICS source dropped.
Nexus line is for developers, the support is there, so if they don't get Jellybean immediately from google, the community will have it obscenely fast.
I'd have to side with the other amaze users out there and say keep the amaze.
The thing is, I always figure the nexus line was supposed to be the best "average" phone for developers. It's not supposed to be the latest and greatest at everything, it's supposed to represent the average android smartphone at the time of its release, so that if someone develops an app, they know that it'll work with the vast majority of android users. There's gonna be phones better than it and phones worse than it
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I would accept the trade man. Hands down the nexus the device to get because of the support from google.
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What it being a Google device gotta do with anything? My friends has the phone. Such and ugly wack device. Samsung should stick to TV's.
coupetastic-droid said:
What it being a Google device gotta do with anything? My friends has the phone. Such and ugly wack device. Samsung should stick to TV's.
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Better support and faster updates. I'm sorry man but I would have to disagree with you. The gnex is such a beautiful device.
rubyman94 said:
The gnex is such a beautiful device.
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Yuck
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Yuck
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Lol! Just giving my two cents bro.
Honestly, I really really wanted the Galaxy Nexus and waited for a while to see if it would come to Tmo. Google's launch for the device was mad sloppy and I got sick of waiting.
I couldn't give up my Amaze for the Gnex. I use the camera all the time and I love that about this phone. Since having it in December I have over 1,000 pictures taken with it. In fact, when I traveled across the country to visit Pensylvania and Maryland two months ago, I didn't even bring a digital camera with me. Just used the Amaze the entire time and it worked out well.
Sure, development is slow on it and for some mysterious reason HTC is releasing Kernal Drivers for everything BUT this phone, but I feel like that leaves this small community up to a challenge. The work being done to get CM7 onto the Amaze is coming along nicely, and once they get the GSM/Wifi/NFC drivers working we'll finally have an AOSP rom running on this thing. It may be annoying to most people that we haven't gotten it fully running, but I see this as a big acomplishment for the few developers that we have here.
So yeah, I think I'll stick with the Amaze for a while. Its been very good to me
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I've always wanted to try the galaxy nexus... Skeptical though since its built by Samsung. :screwy:
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What it is that you are skeptical about? I have used SGS II, 3 varieties, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus and SGS original. I think, except than the feeling difference by holding the phone in your hand, there is nothing else which would make you worry of anything go wrong.
Compared to Amaze, yes, Nexus is totally different, 1 thing I love about Nexus phones is the Vanilla Android. Another thing I like about them is they have a different and whole new feeling about how one phone should feel like when you hold it or when its lying on your desk and someone overlooking is amazed with what its got, and the feeling it gives you with its curvy design is also something different which unfortunately no other manufactures have come up with.
On the other hand, I have used many htc phones too, i have had incredible s, amazing build quality. currently I am rocking Amaze 4g, a little bulky and heavy but phone feels good in hands, a little smaller and the fact that it too is made out of plastic, doesn't help much, but still a great phone.
Just my opinion.
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Eh, I don't like Samsung phones, and there is always something I don't like from the nexus phones......
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No offence, but since you are saying you don't like samsung phones, what is it that you don't like?? and what is it that you don't like nexus phones? I loved my first google phone, the nexus one, i have used nexus s for a long time, and i do have a galaxy nexus, they are great.
Yet the fact that they come with vanilla, is a choice of your own, whether you like a phone with a custom skin or stock android is your cup of tea... but seriously, what is it that you don't like?
Care to share your thoughts with the community?
Idk... They look boring, they're super lightweight (im clumsy) and I HATED my friend's Vibrant and my coworkers Galaxy S on Sprint. I have never liked samsung phones. TVs are awesome though.
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Idk... They look boring, they're super lightweight (im clumsy) and I HATED my friend's Vibrant and my coworkers Galaxy S on Sprint. I have never liked samsung phones. TVs are awesome though.
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Fair enough...
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Idk... They look boring, they're super lightweight (im clumsy) and I HATED my friend's Vibrant and my coworkers Galaxy S on Sprint. I have never liked samsung phones. TVs are awesome though.
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im with you on this, but.. my brother has the HTC incredible (still one of the best HTC phones made) and since its lightweight its harder for it to break/get damaged. our phones are bricks when it comes to weight lol so it would impact a lot more when dropping
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im with you on this, but.. my brother has the HTC incredible (still one of the best HTC phones made) and since its lightweight its harder for it to break/get damaged. our phones are bricks when it comes to weight lol so it would impact a lot more when dropping
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Off topic, but my friend had the incredible. Loved that phone!!!!
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Hi all,
Just curious and wanted to see if the general consensus is that starting with the Galaxy S through to the S3 ( you may include lesser variants but I'm talking strictly I II and III ) is this the most popular and well developed mobile series in terms of modifications and roms ? much more so than say Sony, HTC etc ?
Having owned all three and having gone from DarkyRom on the Galaxy S, the to using PA on the S2 to now using ( and loving Null ) on the S3
the dev scene around the Galaxy series always seems to have been healthy but with the S2 and S3 more so seems massive and so well catered to.
Am I right or am I blinkered in having stuck the the Galaxy line over the years ?
I believe the galaxy series have very active mods
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They are very popular phones, namely for their powerful hardware and the fact that they are ahead of the curve.
This alone would attract a heavy amount of devs.
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I understand that but the HTC one series has some nice hardware and features yet they don't seem to be embraced among the community now the way they used to be, I suppose it's almost a chicken and egg scenario.
Does the Samsung series attract the most dev's and therefore sell's the most or vice versa do dev's hit the hottest selling mobiles as they know it's a way to ensure their work hit's an appreciative audience ?
Essentially Devs do what they want to do .
Point of note that development may consist of nothing more than themed and cut and paste mods with nothing actually developed for many roms .
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5N4PDR4G0N said:
I understand that but the HTC one series has some nice hardware and features yet they don't seem to be embraced among the community now the way they used to be, I suppose it's almost a chicken and egg scenario.
Does the Samsung series attract the most dev's and therefore sell's the most or vice versa do dev's hit the hottest selling mobiles as they know it's a way to ensure their work hit's an appreciative audience ?
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Actually your half right, the one x is a stellar phone which IMHO is a much better looking phone than the s3, however it has something really crap about it, well two things really, locked in battery and non upgradeable memory.
Two things which made me steer clear of HTC this year, take a peek at my sig and you'll see my history is full of HTC phones.
Also the connectivity of the HTC devices is utter rubbish compared to the S3, can't even link up via Bluetooth. Afaik anyway. ( unless the kernel supports it, I think u had to install an aosp ROM, or cm type ROM)
It was enough to sway me away from it and quite a few devs too, but there are still a fair few developing for it.
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If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
Woooo! Waiting on full details on this and Moto X phone for my decision!
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If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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Oh yea!! Awesome!! I have $400 saved up on amazon specifically for this phone ha
That thing doesn't have an SD card right?
So my decision kinda goes down to front facing speakers, or an SD card.
Let the Exodus begin! I am so stoked about this. I have an upgrade available in August, but I will pay full price and save my unlimited data. Wahoo!
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Because they are releasing on on AT&T and the S4 will have one... Also, some folks love that...
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This upsets me. I just ordered an Samsung galaxy 4. But then again my last 2 HTC phones was the "best of the best and will be kept up with updates." And that never happened either :thumbdown:
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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This might be enough to sway me back to htc...hmm balls in your court Motorola just plz have a 3300mah battery!
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Nice, if they do a Verizon version, should be plenty of AOSP to pick from I'd hope
So I guess this won't be a true Google nexus phone but just a phone to run aosp? It is nice they are looking in to the option of giving owners a choice of os. Might be the first steps in allowing us to flash what we want in the future. Might get this phone when released.
My question is why is it Google owns moto but they still haven't released a nexus phone?
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
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Here is how I am looking at the Nexus program. I think that people are starting to buy Nexus phones like the Iphone. A single experience across a single platform. Jelly Bean finally made Android beautiful to look at and use and now people are catching on. Samsung was part of the Nexus experience for a long time, and they made a decent market out of it. With this in mind people are seeing the Nexus verisons advertised and the skins OEM use are cartoony, bulky, and don't carry 1 or 2 of Androids core features well after release. With the Nexus program more OEM's are seeing profitability probability from having these stock phones. It also will help them develop a more precise skin in using stock they will see what people like and build features off it while maintaining stock characteristics. Skins can be good Sense started off on the right foot, but has gotten farther and farther away from adding any new functions (Cough) Iphone (Cough) it used to be the best clock, weather, and calendar but as of JB stock is just as good and with Google unifying to the Card UI its feels so consistent across the phone, and skins just subtract from that when they aren't offering anything else that isn't better than or as good as stock.
Now for us, this is great news for the dev community if it means that the Nexus Updates are indeed coming from google. As we have come to terms with HTC just doesn't release source timely and with that in mind slows us down considerably. Now if Google is handling the updates they don't need to listen to HTC they can just post the source for the Nexus variant and we can build off that (not me I mean you) . This in theory should make getting AOSP roms built much faster and much stabler overall. because Even though our devs are great and our community is great JB will never exactly be 100% there. With this though we should see quicker builds, more stable builds, and increased longevity of our device.
I am excited, this looks good for us, and HTC. I know many of us came from the DINC and we all basically had the same idea about the Rez. I love this phone, but during the time I have had it HTC just seemed to be getting worse(along with verizon) but as of late I have been impressed. They seem to be really trying and the one is a combo of great design and great hardware as they always do. So I think this may be enough to keep my HTC loyalty from straying to a galaxy far far away.
Google never had to listen to the phone makers. The problem they had was with Verizon when they told Google CDMA was closed sourced and all updates had to go through them first. Anyone who owns a Verizon galaxy nexus knows how slow updates came when compared to their gsm counterpart. Any Google phone has nothing to do with the makers of the phone when it comes to the software.
Don't even try to compare the nexus line with the iPhone. Most people buys a nexus phone because you can root and customize the phone to their liking. Also to have updates to come quickly. People buys I phones for the name and that's it. Don't compare apples to oranges.
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Only so many users are looking to root the average end user is not looking for hacking capabilities. They are looking for an experience that is taken care of for them. Thats what the Iphone used to be, and that's what Android with Jelly Bean has become. People are moving to android for more reasons than hacking. They may be two different OS's, and two different Manufacturers but Google's nexus line is becoming mainstream now. There is no denying that. I know tons of people with Iphones that have bought a nexus 7 and really "enjoyed the interface" meaning Android is now as and more polished than the previous smartphone overlords at apple. Android is becoming a more powerful OS on its own premise than manufacturers and OEM skins.
Thats just my take though