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What do you like or not like about your G-Tablet?
For 299.99 shipped I couldn't pass it up.
Did I get a good deal? Should I have picked a different tablet?
Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
parson33 said:
What do you like or not like about your G-Tablet?
For 299.99 shipped I couldn't pass it up.
Did I get a good deal? Should I have picked a different tablet?
Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
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You should have spent another $100 and bought an asus. There are multiple issues that don't exist in the asus and are well worth $100
Asus got its own perks... and besides viewing angles this tablet is doing what I need. I see no other issues unless you have to have HC OS.
thebadfrog said:
You should have spent another $100 and bought an asus. There are multiple issues that don't exist in the asus and are well worth $100
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How does this help him? Buy an Asus, ipad, xoom or whatever the flavor of the week is?
The dev community and the price tag make the g tablet a win. If you were forced to run stock that's a different story.
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Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
thebadfrog said:
Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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Don't forget to mention that the touchscreen itself is a pain - hardly multi-touch at all.....
thebadfrog said:
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
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If you bought this tablet to screw around with, it's teh awesome.
All tablets are obsolete about 5 months after they're announced, let alone shipped. That doesn't make any of them any less useful. Android support from the manufactures is currently the thing that is most horrible compared to that other tablet OS - where you get an update, and - well - all of the devices are updated. Android updates? Yeah... up to each manufacturer. Good luck with your 3 - 6 month old tablet, the new OS will be on the next tablet. Welcome to Android, it's Open! And Free! Yay!
You made a bad choice if you think you did. If you're happy with your choice, you made a great choice.
If you have doubts or regrets already, and you can still return it, DO IT. Get something else. Maybe even a different OS.
I'm quite happy with mine, and I've had it nearly two weeks I'm learning a lot, and the price was right. Personally, for $400, I'd still NOT have an android tablet, but that's just me.
thebadfrog said:
Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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All nice...but...none of this is what the OP asked. He/She wanted to know was this a good purchase at a good price. I'm sure he/she saw other tablets on the market and shopped within budget. There's always a step up you can spring for, show me a better tablet at or under $300.00 and I'll recant.
Should I buy the BMW, why not the Mercedes.
I agree with schettj 100% btw....he just asked for opinions
parson33 said:
Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
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I believe my response answered the OP
schettj said:
If you bought this tablet to screw around with, it's teh awesome.
All tablets are obsolete about 5 months after they're announced, let alone shipped. That doesn't make any of them any less useful. Android support from the manufactures is currently the thing that is most horrible compared to that other tablet OS - where you get an update, and - well - all of the devices are updated. Android updates? Yeah... up to each manufacturer. Good luck with your 3 - 6 month old tablet, the new OS will be on the next tablet. Welcome to Android, it's Open! And Free! Yay!
You made a bad choice if you think you did. If you're happy with your choice, you made a great choice.
If you have doubts or regrets already, and you can still return it, DO IT. Get something else. Maybe even a different OS.
I'm quite happy with mine, and I've had it nearly two weeks I'm learning a lot, and the price was right. Personally, for $400, I'd still NOT have an android tablet, but that's just me.
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Well said, the technology is moving so fast all of these things are becoming obselete .
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I agree with schettj 100% btw....he just asked for opinions
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Yeah I probably need to dial it back a bit, it's all good.
As a side, where the hell can you get an Asus these days (I tried ).
lrs421 said:
Well said, the technology is moving so fast all of these things are becoming obselete .
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There is a difference here that I don't think is recognized.
What thebadfrog says above:
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
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is a huge deal IMHO. I don't recommend anyone buy a Samsung phone because their support sucks (even Google Android devs can't stand them and hate working with them). While their hardware is great.
HTC is the best smartphone maker out there - hands down. The continued support they provide the community and their phones is second to none. Look at how many of their old phones are still getting updates? My Evo is almost a year old and is about to get Gingerbread direct from HTC (even though CM7 is out for it).
So that's another thing to look at. You don't want to drop $300 every 6 months in order to maintain support - you want to find a device made by a manufacturer that has a proven support track record - and Asus is one, Acer is another. Viewsonic is not. We're in an age where, while there is new stuff coming out daily, the existing hardware is still viable due to the community and the manufacturer support (when you pick the right one).
I think it's often overlooked.
Quality is everything to me, my Xoom does everything I need and it's stable, plus it will most likely get regular updates to issues and featurees. Still, it looks like a great tablet compared the Galaxy Tab.
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jerdog said:
There is a difference here that I don't think is recognized.
What thebadfrog says above:
is a huge deal IMHO. I don't recommend anyone buy a Samsung phone because their support sucks (even Google Android devs can't stand them and hate working with them). While their hardware is great.
HTC is the best smartphone maker out there - hands down. The continued support they provide the community and their phones is second to none. Look at how many of their old phones are still getting updates? My Evo is almost a year old and is about to get Gingerbread direct from HTC (even though CM7 is out for it).
So that's another thing to look at. You don't want to drop $300 every 6 months in order to maintain support - you want to find a device made by a manufacturer that has a proven support track record - and Asus is one, Acer is another. Viewsonic is not. We're in an age where, while there is new stuff coming out daily, the existing hardware is still viable due to the community and the manufacturer support (when you pick the right one).
I think it's often overlooked.
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That's a good point and the reason I chucked my Captivate in favor of the HTC Inspire. I admit that I didn't realize how bad Viewsonic's support was going in, with that said, I still think this is the best choice at or under $300.00 Now if the OP wants to fork up the extra cash I say go for it, I looked for the Asus myself and may infact purchase one whenever they become available.
lrs421 said:
Yeah I probably need to dial it back a bit, it's all good.
As a side, where the hell can you get an Asus these days (I tried ).
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Mine is on back order hopefully to be delivered next week.
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Mine is on back order hopefully to be delivered next week.
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Well that's good news. Enjoy, they're pretty much gone and many stores stopped accepting back orders.
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lrs421 said:
That's a good point and the reason I chucked my Captivate in favor of the HTC Inspire. I admit that I didn't realize how bad Viewsonic's support was going in, with that said, I still think this is the best choice at or under $300.00 Now if the OP wants to fork up the extra cash I say go for it, I looked for the Asus myself and may infact purchase one whenever they become available.
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I didn't seriously consider any tablet when they were 400 dollars or over. I would buy an Asus down the line (when it is close to obsolete) when it hits 299.99 or lower.
However I was not aware Viewsonic did not support the G-Tablet very well. Is support in this forum from developers going to dry up in the next year? If I could get year out of this tablet I would be happy. Obviously I hoping for Gingerbread. Or Honeycomb rather? I am a newbie. (can't you tell?)
Its hard to say what support is going to look like, but the older this item gets the more development its likely to lose, its the natural order of things.
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lrs421 said:
Its hard to say what support is going to look like, but the older this item gets the more development its likely to lose, its the natural order of things.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
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There are different factors too.... Look at the Nexus One. Still getting updates (albeit it's Google's), but TMobile is still pushing updates for the myTouch.... The Evo is 1yr old. Others are older and still getting development from the community at-large. A company's willingness to be open to the community contributes as well....
Alright, so I did a little searching and still have a question on whether the Atrix is going to get Ice Cream sandwich, as all of you know, the newer Android OS, not released yet (but within 1-2 months).
Only other thread found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973034
We obviously have an unlocked bootloader and a host of options available for the phone, including CM7 which is in pre-beta, but what about ice cream sandwich?
I understand motorola PROBABLY won't release it, because they only recently released gingerbread, but does anyone know of someone willing to port it, once it's rolled out? or...anything?!
Thanks
An official version, I highly doubt it. A leaked custom ROM of it, more than likely...
Can you say, Cyanogenmod 8!? Hopefully but I heard that newer devices will be able to run it. So I'm guessing that the inspire, atrix, infuse sensation, etc. And as far as the official update for ice cream sandwich, I would forget about it
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no one knows the answer to this question, so there's no point in asking it.
I have a doubt about getting ICS on the Atrix.
Let's suppose that Motorola won't bring us ICS officially.
Given that starting from Android ICS there must be proprietary, binary drivers for properly running it: how would Cyanogenmod 9 work for the Atrix, if there won't be those proprietary drivers?
Why did you resurrect this after 3 months? As if there weren't enough of these threads!
Because this was here first.
That's a great question
Sent from my CM860
The best way to get ICS right now is to buy a Galaxy Nexus. The best way to make friends on these here XDA Atrix forums is to be patient and stop agonizing over when the Atrix will see it. The speculation never ends, but at some point you just have to stfu and enjoy what you have!
CaelanT said:
Why did you resurrect this after 3 months? As if there weren't enough of these threads!
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LOL sorry I came to this thread from a Google search and I (incorrectly) supposed that it was recent without looking at the last post date. My fault. In any case, the question came to me when I was looking at this thread, so I did not want to start another just for this question
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LOL sorry I came to this thread from a Google search and I (incorrectly) supposed that it was recent without looking at the last post date. My fault. In any case, the question came to me when I was looking at this thread, so I did not want to start another just for this question
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Thank you for not starting another.
WiredPirate said:
Thank you for not starting another.
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At least I made half-damages. Now it is gone, this thread is resurrected and my question is still valid.
I am waiting for a CM luminary to help me understand about the new strange "We love opensource, but you need the proprietary binary driver" Google policy and how this will impact non-officially upgradeable devices.
Yeah, I don't exactly understand how google is planning to get that ball rolling either, if the drivers aren't all available.
As for the atrix, from what my understanding is, the real issue with ICS not being ported is the missing Tegra 2 driver.
Now, don't quote me on that, but that's what I saw.
i think there is a slight posibility we will get official ics, seeing how the photon and bionic will probably get it, and the atrix is basically the same phone but for a different carrier. but even if we do get official, still sticking with cm9
Not sure where you saw the photon is getting it. No officials I've seen for that one. As for the bionic not gonna help us much as its not tegra 2
AstainHellbring said:
Not sure where you saw the photon is getting it. No officials I've seen for that one. As for the bionic not gonna help us much as its not tegra 2
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well seing how they are already running gb, seems like they would get an official update. and if the photon gets it since its a tegra 2 the porting would probably be pretty easy, but im not a dev so i wouldnt know.
Not going to happen....or at least for the next 6 months. this "must have the latest software" is a god damn disease. Lol I think this phone is awesome, but was never well supported or embraced by the developing community from the get go. Not being harsh but a lot of developers have left.....
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And the used prices for Atrix are joke now, you can get one for 200$. I remember how I paid 343# just two month ago. I feel stupid.
As for the Tegra 2 and ICS, don't you guys know that numerous tablets will be getting ICS ?
you must be mad i paid 1 cent for mine, (granted it was with an ATT upgrade) but after taxes and their upgrade fee's .. still less than 50$ for the atrix
To me it all feels very elitist.. YOU can have the latest upgrade but YOU can't.. Most of us are locked into 2 year contracts.. Yet at the rate that phones are evolving most phones are out of date within 6 months. With new O/S upgrades coming every year at the most. So what Motorola/Google are telling me is my phone which I've had just a year is not worthy of the newest update/upgrade. What Makes it worse is with Google purchasing Motorola's mobile phone division you would think they'd showcase how the two can work together.
NinjaWookie said:
What Makes it worse is with Google purchasing Motorola's mobile phone division you would think they'd showcase how the two can work together.
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That would only be an issue when and if the deal actually goes through.
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Although XDA is not a place to extensively talk about what device person should buy, some forums permit it. So to help keep the threads a little cleaner, you may post your questions here.
Granted there are other sites more into device reviews and comparisons, but in the interest of keeping some people happy, and to avoid getting posts deleted, this thread is created for people who have no idea what device to get.
In the end, you should still march your happy self to a shop, and play with the devices that are available. Only then will you be satisfied with your purchase.
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A gsm user should not buy photon, i am photon user and i`m planning to sell it as soon as possible. Made some research i`m gonna buy samsung galaxy S sgh T989
First Moscow Desire, Thank you!Since the announcment of possible Photon sequel there are at least 3 running threads on the same subject.
I'm mixed to be honest, the spec's on the new EVO are hot. The "reported" specs on the sequel Photon Q 4G LTE look hot also. Giving a choice, if the Photon keeps CDMA/GSM and kickstand, Photon it is!
anaragayevafr said:
A gsm user should not buy photon, i am photon user and i`m planning to sell it as soon as possible. Made some research i`m gonna buy samsung galaxy S sgh T989
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Why should a gsm user avoid this phone? Ive been looking at it.
_atlien_ said:
Why should a gsm user avoid this phone? Ive been looking at it.
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For prepaid gsm users. USSD codes not supported by the phone, and in my opinion ussd codes are very useful for us.
I just watched the press release for Samsung Galaxy S III (watched it twice matter fact) all I can say is DAMM!!!!!
www.thenextgalaxy.com
galaxy nexus III
This phone looks amazing. This phone reminds me a lot of iOS functionality.
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thenextgalaxy.com
Photon All the way
automatikdonn said:
Photon All the way
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Really? I love my Photon also, but there is crop of new hardware either out or coming out in the next month that makes Photon look like a toy! I'm not saying it bad, but if your going to upgrade, go top dog!
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Really? I love my Photon also, but there is crop of new hardware either out or coming out in the next month that makes Photon look like a toy! I'm not saying it bad, but if your going to upgrade, go top dog!
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Until you're quad-core, I put MoPho up there with anything. There are kernels out to get 1.4ghz which on a tegra2 is more than adequate. For half (or better) the money Photon has HUGE value. SGS3 is right around the corner, though, and we have to expect that several other Quad's are right there with it. (obviously pertaining to US domestic carriers) Waiting is probably the best option, but if that is not an option, the MoPho is serious.
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Really? I love my Photon also, but there is crop of new hardware either out or coming out in the next month that makes Photon look like a toy! I'm not saying it bad, but if your going to upgrade, go top dog!
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So, what do the new phones do that the Photon does not do in its size/form factor? I have all the memory and CPU power I need now. Wrt my Intel desktops, I reached the same point several years ago - a quad core 8GB box is more than I need. I understand that some people want more for (1) valid uses like gaming and simulation, (2) hobby purposes - just want to have the latest & I acknowledge as a geek that this is a valid reason!
Serious question - I carry an ultralight laptop (Win7), tablet (ICS) and a phone. My Photon's screen is perfectly sized for a phone and my pocket, but not big enough for other uses - BUT, my pockets are not big enough for a tablet. So, my phone is pocketable, while tablet and laptop go in the briefcase/bag.
IMHO, Android phones have peaked in terms of size/performance for a pocketable device. They are commodities now - what am I missing?
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Until you're quad-core, I put MoPho up there with anything. There are kernels out to get 1.4ghz which on a tegra2 is more than adequate. For half (or better) the money Photon has HUGE value. SGS3 is right around the corner, though, and we have to expect that several other Quad's are right there with it. (obviously pertaining to US domestic carriers) Waiting is probably the best option, but if that is not an option, the MoPho is serious.
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Like your post. Agree.
But - what am I going do with a quad-core and a 4" screen? My second core is rarely used today! 1 or 2 cores seems to be plenty for a 4.x" screen. Battery tech is NOT keeping pace with more cores in a pocketable phone. Thoughts?
buy one htc hd 2 <--- this phone run all the OS
Photon would be great, until the *censored* upgraded the bootloader to a locked version, incapable of an OEM unlock.
I absolutely love my Photon 4G. By far the fastest phone I have ever owned. Especially with the Dual Core and the official ICS being released in Q4 from Motorola.
MB855 Custom rom on ISW11M
will the rom of MB855(Sprint) work on ISW11M(AU KDDI)?
is there any difference between the two? will the custom rom works on both device?
pls help
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Attention!
In light of all the posts that are deleted and/or closed due to many off-topic posts about what device a person should buy, I have created this official thread.
Although XDA is not a place to extensively talk about what device person should buy, some forums permit it. So to help keep the threads a little cleaner, you may post your questions here.
Granted there are other sites more into device reviews and comparisons, but in the interest of keeping some people happy, and to avoid getting posts deleted, this thread is created for people who have no idea what device to get.
In the end, you should still march your happy self to a shop, and play with the devices that are available. Only then will you be satisfied with your purchase.
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GSIII 10char
Is a used Photon right for me?
Hey all...
I'm on Sprint and I have about 17 months left in my contract. I used to have a Samsung Galaxy S2, which I really liked, but I lost it and have had to go back to my old HTC Hero (yikes).
Anyways, so I was going to buy another Galaxy S2, seems like used ones go for around $225 - $250 on ebay, but then I realized that I'm planning a trip to Europe (Iceland and Germany) this summer, and my girlfriend has a CDMA phone (Verizon Galaxy S3, which is a great phone but too much $$$ for me to buy off-contract). I'm hoping to buy prepaid simcards in Iceland and Germany, so I can use data while I'm out and about (especially maps).
So it seems like the Photon is the only recent Android phone on Sprint that has GSM support, and it's a bit cheaper that the Galaxy S2 on eBay. From what I've read online, it seems like the phone is a good choice, with more or less the same specs and screen size as the Galaxy S2. Can anyone give me some advice?
The potential downsides I am worried about are:
The Photon is officially at EOL. (I don't care that much if it works well.)
It seems like there were some conflicting reports about whether the Photon supported GSM 1800? But more recent posts I've read seem to indicate using a prepaid simcard in Europe mostly just works (maybe with having to run a utility to tweak ASNs).
It might not ever get the ICS update. (I don't really care that much - I'm happy using Cyanogen or a similar ROM if I need to.)
It kind of seems from this forum like people are ditching this phone in droves.
Some people seem to think this phone is kind of unreliable.
As far as my usage, I mostly run fairly simple apps like maps, foursquare, nytimes and the web browser, but I like those apps to run fast. Games are not my top priority but I like them OK.
Are there any other GSM / "world" phones on Sprint that might be worth looking into?
Photon is very good one
i've been using this phone for 2 weeks, i've trying different ROMs, it's amazing how this phone is rock and fast.
the only problem that i've faced with it is when i unlocked it i've lost the 4G. no way to get it back as you want to use it with any GSM carries in the USA.
but anyone who lives out of US will not face this problem as he will not have to unlock it.
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Moreover, it supposed to be an official ICS for photon after 2 months and i'm waiting it.
Now all the available ICS for this phone have major bugs.
imo...
ive owned many android phones between me and my wife weve had pretty much every phone from sprint, using the upgrades every year.......she has a s2 i have a photon (atm)
her s2...unrooted stock has an amazing screen very vivid decently fast no lag from what ive seen, sprints 3g blows no 4g in my area and wifi ( my wifi router) blows major ballzack... you can buy one of these (s2) from bestbuy using an upgrade/or new 2yr agreement right now for $49.99.. the photon for $29.99.... the photon as long as it doesnt come loaded with the new ota is a amazing purchase for 29.99 with the ota expect to only be able to root for now until someone fingers unlocking out....but the photon is incredible fast when i first bought it running stock and no root i was amazed at how snappy and receptive it was.... everything loaded so fast (coming from a htc hero mind you ), net was loaded decentl;y quick and the screen was very bright... then i rooted unlocked and flashed roms....(even built a few) still photon impressed me any issues i had charge that puppy up sbf and start all over neverbrick if you would......so many options with from ics,jb,miui,aokp's,PA, **** man list goes on and on..........and with the future promise of a stoock ics the photon is one hell of a purchase.....however......
im up for an upgrade and im looking at the s3 intently....... but at same time im wanting to wait for the next best thing...thought would be the PQ but after reading and reading on the specs and what can be expected of/from it IJDK......thinking of getting away from motorola since they have been so uncooperative with unlocking the bootloader and system updates
I personally think no phone right now is a significant upgrade from the Photon, however my mind might change once the Note 2 or the next Nexus device comes out. A lot of current phones are using older gpus which aren't a big step up from the Tegra, however the new Adreno and Exynos GPUs are supposed to come out towards the end of the year which is a bit exciting.
Hey guys, long time android user here. Started out with the G1, then the Galaxy S, then a Viewsonic Gtablet, and am currently on a galaxy nexus and a transformer prime tablet, and have rooted and flashed multiple roms on each and every one, thanks to the wisdom and guidance found in the XDA community. My question is this: my wife is currently with tmobile and her 2 year contract is up. I want her to come to verizon with me (for many reasons) she will be coming from a HTC G2. Would you recommend this phone? I know it may be hard to be unbiased on this but please try. I've never had a hummingbird processor before, and the 8mp camera beats my 5mp on my nexus (at least on paper). She does heavy web browsing, google searching everything under the sun, not much on gaming, but we have a four year old that loves to use our phones for games so that wouldn't hurt. The main thing she uses it for is the camera, and video camera. Could some one possibly make me a short list of pros and cons as you have found them to be while using this phone as a daily driver? There is no one i trust more then members of the XDA community so your oppinions on this phone will pretty much make my decision for me, thanks!!
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Hey guys, long time android user here. Started out with the G1, then the Galaxy S, then a Viewsonic Gtablet, and am currently on a galaxy nexus and a transformer prime tablet, and have rooted and flashed multiple roms on each and every one, thanks to the wisdom and guidance found in the XDA community. My question is this: my wife is currently with tmobile and her 2 year contract is up. I want her to come to verizon with me (for many reasons) she will be coming from a HTC G2. Would you recommend this phone? I know it may be hard to be unbiased on this but please try. I've never had a hummingbird processor before, and the 8mp camera beats my 5mp on my nexus (at least on paper). She does heavy web browsing, google searching everything under the sun, not much on gaming, but we have a four year old that loves to use our phones for games so that wouldn't hurt. The main thing she uses it for is the camera, and video camera. Could some one possibly make me a short list of pros and cons as you have found them to be while using this phone as a daily driver? There is no one i trust more then members of the XDA community so your oppinions on this phone will pretty much make my decision for me, thanks!!
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Short answer: Nope and I would not recommend Verizon either if you have any other choice.
This phone is outdated and no longer vendor supported, the boot loader is locked so its hard to get custom ROMs done and the stock GB android can be slow and now is 3 versions behind. Moto will not provide any more updates.
if you're doing it for monetary reasons, its an OK phone. You'll get an older higher end phone for $50 (07/14/2012) rather than a newer cheapo or freebie. It wasn't terribly successful due to the Bionic & Razr coming out shortly after and both offering more.
As mentioned above, OE support is dead. We have a nice community here with two ROMs that are still supported though.
Eclipse is rock solid stable and based upon the current 2.3.5 release from motorizon. There is also the alpha release of CM9 which will give you ICS. There were others but they haven't been updated.
As for the previous comments on Verizon, I wouldn't go anywhere else. The only other carrier in my area is ATT and if you actually want coverage you go with Verizon.
If I was getting a phone today I'd go Razr or S3.
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if you're doing it for monetary reasons, its an OK phone. You'll get an older higher end phone for $50 (07/14/2012) rather than a newer cheapo or freebie. It wasn't terribly successful due to the Bionic & Razr coming out shortly after and both offering more.
As mentioned above, OE support is dead. We have a nice community here with two ROMs that are still supported though.
Eclipse is rock solid stable and based upon the current 2.3.5 release from motorizon. There is also the alpha release of CM9 which will give you ICS. There were others but they haven't been updated.
As for the previous comments on Verizon, I wouldn't go anywhere else. The only other carrier in my area is ATT and if you actually want coverage you go with Verizon.
If I was getting a phone today I'd go Razr or S3.
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Like I said, if you have any other choice , Otherwise give the devil his due. I use Virgin Mobile with better services at half the price of Verizon
DigitalMD said:
Like I said, if you have any other choice , Otherwise give the devil his due. I use Virgin Mobile with better services at half the price of Verizon
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Half the price, really? How many lines and what type of plan?
Thanks,
This phone is over a year old. Why would you choose this phone over newer ones? This phone isn't all that great. If you use it as is, its still buggy. The devs here make this thing worth having. But even then, devs are moving on to other devices now and Motorola isn't even giving us an official ICS update. So unless you plan on hacking this phone up for her, I wouldn't recommend it.
EDIT: A lot of people here are switching to to HTC Droid Incredible or the Rezound.
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This phone is over a year old. Why would you choose this phone over newer ones? This phone isn't all that great. If you use it as is, its still buggy. The devs here make this thing worth having. But even then, devs are moving on to other devices now and Motorola isn't even giving us an official ICS update. So unless you plan on hacking this phone up for her, I wouldn't recommend it.
EDIT: A lot of people here are switching to to HTC Droid Incredible or the Rezound.
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because if you have $50 to spend this is a way better phone than say a Wildfire or something else thats $50
oh, and I actually just had family up, who is unfortunately considering switching away from virgin mobile to verizon because their phone quit working 60 miles away.
Move to West Virginia, Sprint and Virgin thrive and narry a Verizon or T-Mob tower in sight
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/903550
It starts as a minor foodfight but ends up providing some interesting info. A poster named "momma23dogs" said Sony has completely pulled out of the U.S. market and apparently has stopped development on all phones currently released in said market. They also stated that Verizon considers the last update Sony provided them as buggy and shelved it.
Another poster named "Tidbits", claiming to be a former Sony firmware writer with contacts on the inside essentially confirms the buggy update story and blames Sony entirely. Further into the thread there is an interesting conversation about the relationship between manufacturer's and carriers. It was news to me anyway...
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Interesting read, this closely matches the story that a manager of a corporate Verizon store told the dev, which he told me a few months back. Verizon and Sony are at odds with each other because of the noncompliance going on with the updates.
There will be NO Android 5.1.1 or 6.0 on Z3v ? Sad
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I believe the Z3v is a "dead" phone in the sense it has seen it's best days. It is probably well past the pinnacle of it's xda life. Sony and Verizon have abandoned it. The next wave of new and more powerful phones are upon us and everyone is beginning to move on. This is similar to my old Galaxy Nexus. It was the darling of the development crowd until new phones started being released and the Devs began to focus on them. Development dried up almost overnight, except for a couple of diehards who actually liked the phone.
This is just the normal life span of a smartphone today. We can blame the way carriers have trained us to want a new phone every two years. The companies and carriers don't want to spend money or effort on something that has already been sold, they would rather get us to buy something new and to that end they churn out better and better phones. That is, unfortunately the nature of the business.
After 18 months to 2 years the batteries are beginning to fail. Now most are sealed in the unit forcing the user to take the phone apart or take it to a store so they can take it apart to put in a most likely two year old replacement battery because both phones and batteries are generally manufactured in one or two productions runs and that is it...then everyone begins tooling up to make the latest and greatest next generation of phones.
...it is a shame really, I like the Z3v.
I like the z3V too, and just bought a second one for my drawer for when my first one kicks it.
I have come to realize how technology is metered out for consumerism. But I refuse to succumb to their rules on needing to keep updated. That's the Crapple approach to business, and I don't like it. Google is following Crapple. I see something I like and I stick with it until I am ready to move on.
I'm almost convinced about moving on back to the Galaxy because of the newly announced S7. 3000+ mah, expandable storage, and water resistance in a fully supported phone. Plus it has wireless charging and a great camera.
What's holding me back? I truly desire the Xperia UI and the Sony brand that supports its ecosystem. I have the PlayStation consoles that are interconnected with my devices, Bluetooth accessories that are fully compatible with the Sony Mobile device because they are accessories from Sony, and the fine craftsmanship that I know of a hardware that's built to last. I'm not ready to give up on my phone, but just to complain to complain, it is irritating how outdated my camera is when compared to the latest and greatest, and I feel like SD801 can only do so much now to keep up with more and more of the newest softwares that's coming out nearly on a daily basis.
When I saw one of the older Xperia phones I liked the looks, I said if the Red Check Mark ever got one I would get it, who would have known it would turn out like this? I will tell you how to save yourself from making a wrong decision next time, if I choose a phone don't get it I am batting 1000 right now on picking stepchild phones. lol
Except for the camera overheating and the USB door failure (of course locked bootloader) it is a great phone. Far less restarts (almost zero) than the old phones, well except the Moto Droid 1 (only got a restart if overclocked to far) that I used Bugless Beast ROM on.
Nothing out, floats my boat, a Kickstarter (Nexbit Robin) phone had my eye but after the first reviews don't think it would be much better than what the Xperia is now.
Forgot to add any new phone has to have MHL 2.0 or higher (which it seems Sony is the only one sticking with that), gotten addicted to watching streaming video content over the TV, yes I know Miracast, and DNLA will do the same, which SOny has all three.
Ahhhh. Moto's original Droid... Those were the days. Rummaged through some of my old hard drives and found all the old stuff I used to load up; Chevy's overclocking kernels, Ultimate Droid releases. Still have 4 of those phones, 2 in NIB condition.
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Ahhhh. Moto's original Droid... Those were the days. Rummaged through some of my old hard drives and found all the old stuff I used to load up; Chevy's overclocking kernels, Ultimate Droid releases. Still have 4 of those phones, 2 in NIB condition.
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Geeeez, think my OG Droid still has CM7 w/ a ChevyNo1 kernel on it. Haven't booted it in a while, was using it with the dock as a desk clock for the longest time
The Z3v would be a killer phone with an unlocked bootloader. My old Galaxy Nexus spoiled me with it's accessibility with ROMs, kernels and the such. I picked the Z3v based on Sony's take on Android and it's amazing battery life. As long as it is rooted I can live with it but the lack of updating to the latest ROM is a little frustrating.
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Geeeez, think my OG Droid still has CM7 w/ a ChevyNo1 kernel on it. Haven't booted it in a while, was using it with the dock as a desk clock for the longest time
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Mine has Bugles Beast with P3Droid 1.2ghz low voltage kernel, was beta testing one of the first Bugless Beast ROMs when I discovered the Dalvik cache 3 time wipe before flashing new ROM concept which I shared with the then new community.
Used it when the Z3v wouldn't work this summer for video, Z3v camera would shut down after 4 minutes of recording the Droid would record all day no problem.
Unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs is what Android is all about.
Linux support the free.
I used Bugless Beast back when Peter Alfonso was coding ROMs for the GNex. He's pretty good, it lived up to it's name for sure.
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I used Bugless Beast back when Peter Alfonso was coding ROMs for the GNex. He's pretty good, it lived up to it's name for sure.
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Yeah he (Peter) was good at the Java coding, what ever happened to him, did he get a job with Motorola? Lost track of him once I left the Droid.
In the last post he made on the GNex forums he said he got a job, I'm not sure who with, and he was writing code for them. That is why he stopped working on the GNex ROM. Things just got too busy and something had to give.
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In the last post he made on the GNex forums he said he got a job, I'm not sure who with, and he was writing code for them. That is why he stopped working on the GNex ROM. Things just got too busy and something had to give.
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He was going to help me out on learning ROM development, I had the SDK environment all setup and working, played around with it for a few weeks and was going to start getting into it heavy, then the frigging computer I had it set up on crapped out, the HD went south, lost all the data could not retrieve anything, shortly after that I had and accident and just never got back into it, at the time I had 4 Coms up and running now I just have a laptop and lost desire to do anything again.
I know he told me he was getting a job and was going to stop.
Well the Z3 and Z2 are getting Marshmallow now, sucks. Advanced Calling 2.0 with WiFi calling would be nice too.