Hello guys,
I've recently been sold a supposed 16Gb Flyer that shows the following in its settings:
Internal storage:
Total space: 3.94GB
Tablet storage:
Total Space: 8.69GB
Could anyone please elaborate on this. Where the heck is the advertised 16GB storage?
Thank you.
There is another storage area reserved for the operating system … that area doesn’t show in settings.
If you use Titanium Backup you will see it.
Thank you, but i'd have to root the device to install Titanium, I can't. Besides, a whole 8GB of missing space just for the Android OS? that would be NUTS.
photoassign said:
Thank you, but i'd have to root the device to install Titanium, I can't. Besides, a whole 8GB of missing space just for the Android OS? that would be NUTS.
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How do you figure that 8gb is missing?
3.94gb + 8.69gb = 12.63gb
16gb - 12.63gb = 3.37gb
Obviously the storage is actually a little less than 16gb to start with even before the OS is put on it (since storage is always like that). Plus, you've probably got a few things currently installed and/or stored on the tablet. So the OS and other related files are taking up less than 3gb of space.
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How do you figure that 8gb is missing?
3.94gb + 8.69gb = 12.63gb
16gb - 12.63gb = 3.37gb
Obviously the storage is actually a little less than 16gb to start with even before the OS is put on it (since storage is always like that). Plus, you've probably got a few things currently installed and/or stored on the tablet. So the OS and other related files are taking up less than 3gb of space.
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Thank you for replying. I'm a bit confused. It would be fine if the total storage indicated slightly less than 16GB, short by 2 or 3GB, sure, but the total shows 8.69, is total memory not a sum of internal and whatever system storage there is? I currently have no SD card in the unit.
Also, I've dealt with a Nook Color before, which the manufacturer decided to partition strangely, but even in that case you could see the entire amount of the space present, if fragmented.
photoassign said:
Thank you for replying. I'm a bit confused. It would be fine if the total storage indicated slightly less than 16GB, short by 2 or 3GB, sure, but the total shows 8.69, is total memory not a sum of internal and whatever system storage there is? I currently have no SD card in the unit.
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HTC partitions the single 16gb into two user-accessible sections - "Internal" and "Tablet." "Internal" is where apps and related files will be stored by default, and "Tablet" is what is allotted for you to use to store personal files (music, videos, pictures, documents, etc.). They're both parts of the same 16gb. They show up as different drives because you different levels of access to them. You have to add them up to get your total available amount on storage on the tablet itself.
Also, if you believe the 8.69gb is the total storage for the entire tablet, and you know you don't have a microSD card in there, where do you think the 3.94 comes from?
So don't worry, all of your storage is there. A lot of people often wonder and ask about this though, both with tablets and phones.
Quite helpful, chap, your time is appreciated. Thank you, and thanked.
Also, i will go back to school to learn my mobile device partitioning habits.
At the risk of becoming a bother, could anyone with an actual 16GB Flyer please confirm that the above info holds true? Thank you.
photoassign said:
At the risk of becoming a bother, could anyone with an actual 16GB Flyer please confirm that the above info holds true? Thank you.
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I don't have a 16Gb, but do have the 32Gb one, and I have:
Storage: Internal: Total: 7.88Gb
Storage: SD card: unavailable (because I don't have one in)
Storage: Tablet: Total: 19.61 Gb
19.61Gb + 7.88 Gb = 27.49 Gb
32 Gb - 27.49 Gb = 4.51 Gb (assuming the all the measures are the same)
... sidenote ... if I connect my Flyer in Disk Mode, then windows shows the Tablet as 19.6 Gb (21 053 489 152 bytes), so I guess the measures are are all binary, not decimal ... which is great.
If I go into my Revolutionary CWM & Mounts & Storage, I see mount commands for:
/system
/misc
/data
/cache
/sdcard (This is your "Tablet" storage)
/internal_sdcard (This is your "Internal" storage)
So /system, /misc, /data & /cache between them share the 4.51 Gb
If I fire up Titanium backup, I see:
System ROM: 1.05 Gb (317 Gb Free)
Internal: 8.45 Gb (7.91 Gb Free)
SD card: 21.00 Gb (19.6 Gb Free)
21+8.45+1.05 = 30.5 Gb (looks like decimal measures here, if so, there's 3.86 Gb unaccounted for, which would be the /cache, /misc and /data, which are not shown)
So, although the figures are different, I'd guess that bsweetness is spot on.
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I don't have a 16Gb, but do have the 32Gb one, and I have:
Storage: Internal: Total: 7.88Gb
Storage: SD card: unavailable (because I don't have one in)
Storage: Tablet: Total: 19.61 Gb
19.61Gb + 7.88 Gb = 27.49 Gb
32 Gb - 27.49 Gb = 4.51 Gb (assuming the all the measures are the same)
... sidenote ... if I connect my Flyer in Disk Mode, then windows shows the Tablet as 19.6 Gb (21 053 489 152 bytes), so I guess the measures are are all binary, not decimal ... which is great.
If I go into my Revolutionary CWM & Mounts & Storage, I see mount commands for:
/system
/misc
/data
/cache
/sdcard (This is your "Tablet" storage)
/internal_sdcard (This is your "Internal" storage)
So /system, /misc, /data & /cache between them share the 4.51 Gb
If I fire up Titanium backup, I see:
System ROM: 1.05 Gb (317 Gb Free)
Internal: 8.45 Gb (7.91 Gb Free)
SD card: 21.00 Gb (19.6 Gb Free)
21+8.45+1.05 = 30.5 Gb (looks like decimal measures here, if so, there's 3.86 Gb unaccounted for, which would be the /cache, /misc and /data, which are not shown)
So, although the figures are different, I'd guess that bsweetness is spot on.
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Yep. Regardless of the amount of storage, all of the Flyers and the View, along with several other HTC Android phones (as well as Android phones from other manufacturers like Motorola) all partition in the same way. I speak from experience with several, including the View that I currently own and the Flyer that I've extensively used. I have no reason to make it up.
Thank you, pmbellis, for taking the time and posting such detailed breakdown. It seems a bit of a strange partition scheme, but it pretty much confirms that I likely do have the 16GB model, rather than something smaller.
Thanks bsweetness and everyone, hopefully others will find this thread of use.
Hey guys, I just have a quick question regarding the memory of the tablet.
I have a 32GB model, but the thing is that in the Settings -> Memory, the Internal Memory (which is the on-board one, not the.SD card) is showing as "Available: 19,68 GB".
But how come that there is only 19 GB available when it's the 32GB model? Where are the other 12GB?
Not all 32 GB are user accessible. Some is reserved for the OS, and some is partitioned solely for apps (I think its something like 8 GB for the OS and 4GB for apps).
On the 16 GB version, only abour 4 GB is available as user accessible storage. So the 12 GB that are "missing" are right on (same as my 16 GB version).
EDIT: Didn't quite get the numbers right (didn't have my Flyer with me when I typed the above response).
16 GB Flyer: roughly 4 GB for OS, 4 GB for apps, leaving about 8 GB for user-accessible storage
32 GB Flyer: roughly 4 GB for OS, 8 GB for apps leaving about 20 GB for user-accessible storage
I checked my internal storage and it says I only have 26gb available space but I have 32gb phone where's the other 6gb
Those are probably used for the system and all that bloatware
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32gb on the label/box means 32 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000.
If you divide that number using 1024, you'll get ~29,8gb of actual space.
Then 1.5gb is for /system partition, 1gb is for /cache, at least that's how it is on my 16gb version.
Your partitions might be bigger and some space might be used by other partitions.
The space you see is the /data partition.
Hi,
Last few month ago I bought a 4GB lenovo s820, version 4.2.1, baseband version s820.v12 and build number s820_row_s108_130603. This device work fine except for the storage. This 4 GB device have 2 partition which is internal storage with total space 2.13 GB and usb storage with total space 1.46 GB. The internal storage used up to 1.4 GB for system leaving me with only about 500 MB for apps. I didnt use the usb storage as i have a 32 GB sd card. So that usb storage is totally waste of memory.
Is there a way to remove the usb storage and merge it into single partition instead of 2 partition? This way i can have extra 1.46 GB for my apps.
Thanks
Hi Guys!
Im just asking for system space on internal memory.
Im on MIUI 8 Global Beta and locked BL, my Phone is Snapdragon version with 16/2GB memory. There is only 11,8GB space showing on system drive with around 4GB available of this space.
Shouldnt it be showing 16GB space on system?! Or is Android System taking around 4 to 5 GB for itself??
Bye,
Andreas
There will be some difference in storage size available due to the difference in the way manufacturers calculate storage size. Manufacturers usually use 1GB = 1000MB, but it is actually 1GB = 1024MB.
Also, the android system will take up quite some space. I use a 32/3 GB kenzo myself, and android system shows as 7 GB.
If you require more space, you can try clearing the cache from settings.