I understand on a PC memory is for active stuff and storage is for keeping things you need but can pull into memory for actual use.
If I go to task manager on this phone, it says total memory 803MB, used 588 - free 215MB.
Then it shows all applications 26MB
How do I see how much of my storage is in use? Is that 26MB of whatever sized storage card came with this phone?
ROM vs. RAM?
Thanks
That's showing your RAM, to see how much storage space your phone has left go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Storage use
Thanks - it says 8GB 5.5GB available. Internal storage .93GB.
Ever since these tablets and phones came out "memory" seems to be the generic term for just about everything in the device - RAM, ROM, NAND, EMMC, SD...
This is actually not different from a pc so why is the term memory used so freely? Traditionally RAM was/is considered memory. In the phone NAND is the ROM or flash memory. emmc is the internal storage. Sd is the external storage. But they're all called memory, even in spec sheets. Technically I suppose they are all memory, but why not address them with differing terms?
At one time they'd list it as 512 RAM/512ROM or flash rom. And storage would be called storage or sd card. It would save a lot of confusion and arguments that I've seen where two people are correct in what they've said, just incorrect in answering the question asked.
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Thanks - it says 8GB 5.5GB available. Internal storage .93GB.
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Yup the SD card has the green hornet in it, and the internal memory is like a 1GB free when you get the phone
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Hi guys,
i just went to media markt a german electronics store to check out the Razr. I was reading a lot on here and in online magzines, also german once, about the razr.
but i was suprised as i checked the internal memory it only showed total of 8GB and available something about 6GB
in another online magazin the wrote it has 16GB internal memory but only 12 GB available for the user. I also contacted amazon.de, because they didn't had anything on the product details how much memory. and the guy told me that it is 16Gb but 8GB already reserved for Motocast...
can you help me with this? Why does motocast need so much storage?
Motocast is the app, where i can access the media on my pc and stream it to the device, right?
thanks a lot.
I have this doubt too.I bought mine in Brazil, and it shows only 8GB of internal memory and 6 available, although after you put the SD card it runs an 'internal memory optimizer' and frees all the 8GB.
I think that maybe some sort of reservation, because if it was only the 8GB, some part of this memory would have the system files, and no matter what card you put in the system would be in this memory.But when you put the SD it frees "all" the internal memory.Someone knows how is this possible???
There's 16gb memory on board.
About 4 gigs are reserved for the system, the other 4 gigs are for apps internal storage.
The internal app 2 sd partition is due to many android phones suffering from slow app loading through the SD port.
The system has 4gigs reserved due to the webtop interface, temp storage for the browser and such. And the full android system of course.
The available storage partition, that saves photos etc should be exactly 8 gb free, unless you've downloaded stuff to it. You are free to format the internal storage so nothing important is on that.
Verizon adds a 16gb sd card too, most other markets do not get a sd card.
But they're cheap.
it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
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it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
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I think that review considered the app2sd partition as "user available"
Sorry, but there's always an SD port, up to 64gb extra
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it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
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you have 12gb for use
4 only for apps, and 8 as internal sd...
that's 12gb
Several gigs are also taken up by Webtop.
If you run df command, you can see hw the 16GB is being partitioned.
Code:
$ adb shell 'df '
Filesystem Size Used Free Blksize
/dev 464M 328K 463M 4096
/mnt/asec 464M 0K 464M 4096
/mnt/obb 464M 0K 464M 4096
/system 770M 458M 312M 1024
/pds 3M 1M 2M 1024
/preinstall 8M 1M 7M 1024
/data 3G 164M 3G 4096
/cache 708M 16M 691M 4096
/osh 1G 836M 474M 2048
/mnt/sdcard 8G 1G 6G 8192
/mnt/secure/asec: Permission denied
/mnt/sdcard/.android_secure: Cross-device link
/mnt/sdcard 8G 1G 6G 8192
But, after filtering,
Code:
$ adb shell 'mount' | grep 'ext3\|vfat' | awk '{print $2}' | while read d; do adb shell "df $d" | grep $d; done
/system 770M 458M 312M 1024
/pds 3M 1M 2M 1024
/preinstall 8M 1M 7M 1024
/data 3G 164M 3G 4096
/cache 708M 16M 691M 4096
/osh 1G 836M 474M 2048
/mnt/sdcard 8G 1G 6G 8192
IMHO, the reason /mnt/sdcard partition is on VFAT is, because, it make easier for Windows PC to access the /sdcard content via mass storage support. That's why GNex doesn't support Mass Storage mode, because of the exclusion of vfat FS.
Note; The /osh directory has the UBUNTU distro for webtop. Coool!
ok, and if i have a sd card inserted and apps want to write to sd card, like for their temp-files or whatever they usally store on a sd card, they will write to the internal memory first (sd-card) and if this one is full they will automatilly write to the micro sd (sd-card-ext)? or how does it work? because i would like to use for the app settins and stuff the internal memory, because i think it will be a bit faster...but if this one is full what happens, if i install another app?
Dont know much , but I have seen when I insert the SD card, then the phone starts up something called Memory optimizer, which would copy the contents from the internal memory to the SD card free up the internal memory....
So I think , the preference is like, SD-card(ext) first and then internal memory...
Hope I understood ur query correctly..
App storage is always internal, never on ext-sd, MAYBE if you made an ext-partition?
But IMO, best solution since then apps won't break if you pull out your SD card.
And your apps with data stays throughout system updates.
temp files, android data, general folders with rubbish random names, like extra downloaded game data, is on the internal SD partition.
I found my SD card being Very hard to navigate on my old XT720 because of all the extra folders.
Music from motocast defaults to internal as well.
As it looks to me, any data that is replaceable defaults to internal memory.
In case phone breaks, this is always good.
Ext-sd defaults with irreplacable data, like photos and videos.
Really thought through stuff.
BTW, installed apps are stored in /data 3GB partition, and we still need to do the 'housekeeping' to keep it at a healthy and usable free space size.
After reading this thread, I am wondering if anyone can help me understand this a little further. According to these posts, I should see approx 6gb available. I just purchased my RAZR today, and I do indeed see both total space and available space at 8gb. But above all of that is the Application storage available space, which reads 2.4gb. Can someone explain to me this allocated storage?
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I think I just answered my own question...
Anyway Android can push some portion of the apps to /sdcard partition, similar to APP2SD. Look at Manage App for yourself.
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i have one question......there is a folder name Android/data which contains all the data needed for apps and games but it is present on internal storage ie mnt/SD but the game size is 1.5GB so i was wondering how to move this folder aka Android/data to my 16GB SD card which is mounted as SD-ext.....so any solutions for this? and after moving this folder will it effect the other apps?
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ok, and if i have a sd card inserted and apps want to write to sd card, like for their temp-files or whatever they usally store on a sd card, they will write to the internal memory first (sd-card) and if this one is full they will automatilly write to the micro sd (sd-card-ext)? or how does it work? because i would like to use for the app settins and stuff the internal memory, because i think it will be a bit faster...but if this one is full what happens, if i install another app?
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i don't think you will never have memory problems...
i have 30 40 games installed, some with 3d data....
and 1gb navigator maps
and i have 5 gigs left
i think it's really hard to go over 8gb... if you have 10 gameloft games, you are going to occupy somewhere near 4gb...in the remaining 4gb you can install entire market Lol
navigator and games are the only apps wich have more than 100mb data...
and for those there are mods (for example sygic in a xml file) or apps (for many gameloft games for example) wich move data on external sd...
usually i use sd for my data, photos, videos, music etc
if i will ever need space, i'll move gps and games on the external sd
a class 10 external sd is much more than enough for every app
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it is just weired because i was reading in an reaview that they hat 12gb for user use...? and somebody else was claiming the other 8gb are reserved for motocast. what is this anyway?
but if the make announcments like this: 16 internal memory, i expect something like 11-12 for the user. i know the system needs stuff and so on. but what does it helf me if the write 124 gb internal memory and they use 120, so i only would have 4 left...they should expand the storage then. it is irritating...
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100% agree with u. i checked memory details of moto droid razr's specification on net and motorola mentioned everywhere there this device has 16 gb memory but when i got it yesterday and after starting m shocked that motorola cheated me. :-( i have used many other mobiles including iphone4 which has 16 gb memory and i can use 13.7 gb. rest of 2.3 gb is used for applications/software installing and ''iTUNE''...but what is the point to mention that device has ''16 GB'' even mobile shows total space is 8 gb....
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100% agree with u. i checked memory details of moto droid razr's specification on net and motorola mentioned everywhere there this device has 16 gb memory but when i got it yesterday and after starting m shocked that motorola cheated me. :-( i have used many other mobiles including iphone4 which has 16 gb memory and i can use 13.7 gb. rest of 2.3 gb is used for applications/software installing and ''iTUNE''...but what is the point to mention that device has ''16 GB'' even mobile shows total space is 8 gb....
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They confuse specs IMO, it's 16GB on die, but "user accessible" should always be declared (Usually is)
Also, the Verizon phones get a free 16GB SD card, which is where most of this confusion lies.
it has 8gb internal memory and nearly 3.6 gb for applications and remaining for the system and os
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it has 8gb internal memory and nearly 3.6 gb for applications and remaining for the system and os
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yep, it actually has 16gb. its just partitioned out :/
Hello guys,
I've got a question...
When I connect the Tab to the PC, all the folders are about 4 GB,
and the Free Space is about 5GB.... so... 9 GB in total
Where are rest of the 16GB of storage?
zuperpailon said:
Hello guys,
I've got a question...
When I connect the Tab to the PC, all the folders are about 4 GB,
and the Free Space is about 5GB.... so... 9 GB in total
Where are rest of the 16GB of storage?
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The rest consists of various partitions for cache, system, data etc...
sendan said:
The rest consists of various partitions for cache, system, data etc...
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So it's normal that the Storage capacity that Windows shows me it's about 10 gb, thanks
This is true of all electronic devices nowadays (running any OS). They're advertised by the total flash storage, but the amount actually available to the user is reduced by the amount used by system and other partitions. It's annoying, but it's an advertising tool that everyone uses, so none of the manufacturers would get any benefit from being honest...
The previous posts are only partly correct. Honeycomb shares the 16GB between the internal memory and the 'SD-CARD'. If you install 1GB worth of apps (hard to do) your 'SD-CARDs' memory deminishes by 1GB. In the previous versions of Android, the partitions were fixed, meaning that if your predefined internal memory was full, you couldn't install anymore apps. Honeycomb overcomes this limitation by dynamically sharing the whole internal memory between internal storage and 'SD-CARD'. Additionally the system itself resides in this memory, deminishing it by the size of the OS.
Regards
Achim
Hi all,
I have SONY XPERIA tipo with 803MB Internal Sotrage and 2.20 GB.
I have rooted the phone, and set external 32GB card as the default SD card (i.e. phone thinks its internal memory is 32GB) via changes in /etc/vold.fstab file.
The result is that phone regards the 2.20GB space as external memory.
I can move many applications to 32GB card, however some applications e.g. BusyBox, GCC Toolchain, and Chrome are not movable to Internal storage (32GB) or external storage (2.20GB).
Since the 2.20GB space is of no use for me, and it is mounted under the same device where "phone memory" 803 MB is mounted i.e. :
/dev/block/mmcblk0 = 3909 MB
/dev/block/mmcblk0p11 = 524 MB
/dev/block/mmcblk0p11 = 167 MB
/dev/block/mmcblk0p15 = 803 MB
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 = 2311 MB
Surely, the last partition "/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 = 2311 MB" is the free storage not being used, and "/dev/block/mmcblk0p15 = 803 MB" is the phone memory, which I want to extend/increase.
My question is:
Is it possible to merge the alst 2 partitions (e.g. by formatting 2.2GB space and then merging it with the 803MB space. This way my phone will have its system memory pretty large, and I will be able to install more applets through BusyBox as well as Chrome etc.
Best regards.
maybe Linear RAID these volumes - linux thing but i didnt seen anybody did that on android
you can use EXT partition and script for apps
found nothing related to device partition management
After further searching, and wasting many precious hours, I found nothing except this old thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171531
But it is related to an LG machine. Furthermore the process is very much cumbersome for a simple task like this.
I thought a couple of linux commands would do this, as usually we Linux user do, but the only partition tool available for android works only with the external sdcard (mounted as a separate storage, not as the device storage).
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After further searching, and wasting many precious hours
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That time is never waisted, You learned things
uetian304 said:
I thought a couple of linux commands would do this, as usually we Linux user do, but the only partition tool available for android works only with the external sdcard (mounted as a separate storage, not as the device storage).
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I think the problem is that Android is not Linux but something similar or in other words a subset of Linux. Many things that are configurable in Linux are not in Android. That's why many phone companies do funny things with partitions e.g. mount internal partitions as SC cards.
That's how it is as far as I know. Cheers, Ralf
Hi!
I have a Colorfly e708 Q1 tablet
According to the specifications it should have 8GB storage...
According to the tablet's system’s settings/storage menu, it has two internal storages (one being 1.48GB, the other being 3.76GB)
Now, I was wondering whether the two internal storages, the sum of which is 5.24GB, equal 8GB what is written in the specifications?!?
5.24GB = 8GB ?
In the android system's settings/storage my tablet shows this (yes, two internal storages are shown here):
internal storage
total space 1.48GB
available 1.29GB
internal storage
total space 3.76GB
available 3.70GB
I presume this means, that the system and installed apps take up 0.19GB and 0.06GB (sum 0.25GB) space from TOTAL and the available is what is left for me to use.
Now then, DOES this tablet HAVE 8GB or NOT?
Or do I get it wrong? Does the android system take (8GB-5.3GB=) 2.7GB space (?!?), which is absolutely not visible nor manageable for me?!
Then what takes up the 0.25GB space? All the installed APPs seen in the tablet’s settings/applications menu use 188MB, I added them together
In the android system's settings/applications menu the tablet shows:
RAM 262MB used 479MB free (sum = 741MB; this should be 1GB according to the tablet's specifications... but at least this is near to 1GB)
internal storage 188MB used and 1.3GB free (sum = 1.48GB)
SD card storage 58MB used and 3.7GB free (sum = 3.76GB)
I don't have any external microSD inserted into the tablet, so the so called SD card storage is an internal storage as well, as the settings/storage menu showed earlier.
So in my opinion the 188MB and 58 MB (sum = 246MB = 0.25GB) is the space which the system and pre-installed apps used up.
Someone told me, that tablets like this one, have system restore partition, and other partitions I cannot see, without being rooted. OK, but if the whole system takes up 0.25GB, then why would such partitions need 2.7GB?!
Or where is 2.7GB?
I don't think that my other hypothesis, that the android system would use 2.7GB, is correct ... And also that situation would rise the question (for me) mentioned earlier: what is the 0.25GB?
Please help, because I'm thoroughly confused.
If I plug in the tablet to a PC, it sees only 3.7GB capacity.
In my opinion, (what I would call "storage space"), this tablet has only 3.76GB, that is cc 4GB storage . But mybe I'm not right... I don't know
PLEASE HELP!! I bought a tablet, that was declared to have 8GB capacity. Have I been deceived/cheated or not?