I understand on a PC memory is for active stuff and storage is for keeping things you need but can pull into memory for actual use.
If I go to task manager on this phone, it says total memory 803MB, used 588 - free 215MB.
Then it shows all applications 26MB
How do I see how much of my storage is in use? Is that 26MB of whatever sized storage card came with this phone?
ROM vs. RAM?
Thanks
That's showing your RAM, to see how much storage space your phone has left go to Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Storage use
Thanks - it says 8GB 5.5GB available. Internal storage .93GB.
Ever since these tablets and phones came out "memory" seems to be the generic term for just about everything in the device - RAM, ROM, NAND, EMMC, SD...
This is actually not different from a pc so why is the term memory used so freely? Traditionally RAM was/is considered memory. In the phone NAND is the ROM or flash memory. emmc is the internal storage. Sd is the external storage. But they're all called memory, even in spec sheets. Technically I suppose they are all memory, but why not address them with differing terms?
At one time they'd list it as 512 RAM/512ROM or flash rom. And storage would be called storage or sd card. It would save a lot of confusion and arguments that I've seen where two people are correct in what they've said, just incorrect in answering the question asked.
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Thanks - it says 8GB 5.5GB available. Internal storage .93GB.
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Yup the SD card has the green hornet in it, and the internal memory is like a 1GB free when you get the phone
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Hello guys,
I've recently been sold a supposed 16Gb Flyer that shows the following in its settings:
Internal storage:
Total space: 3.94GB
Tablet storage:
Total Space: 8.69GB
Could anyone please elaborate on this. Where the heck is the advertised 16GB storage?
Thank you.
There is another storage area reserved for the operating system … that area doesn’t show in settings.
If you use Titanium Backup you will see it.
Thank you, but i'd have to root the device to install Titanium, I can't. Besides, a whole 8GB of missing space just for the Android OS? that would be NUTS.
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Thank you, but i'd have to root the device to install Titanium, I can't. Besides, a whole 8GB of missing space just for the Android OS? that would be NUTS.
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How do you figure that 8gb is missing?
3.94gb + 8.69gb = 12.63gb
16gb - 12.63gb = 3.37gb
Obviously the storage is actually a little less than 16gb to start with even before the OS is put on it (since storage is always like that). Plus, you've probably got a few things currently installed and/or stored on the tablet. So the OS and other related files are taking up less than 3gb of space.
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How do you figure that 8gb is missing?
3.94gb + 8.69gb = 12.63gb
16gb - 12.63gb = 3.37gb
Obviously the storage is actually a little less than 16gb to start with even before the OS is put on it (since storage is always like that). Plus, you've probably got a few things currently installed and/or stored on the tablet. So the OS and other related files are taking up less than 3gb of space.
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Thank you for replying. I'm a bit confused. It would be fine if the total storage indicated slightly less than 16GB, short by 2 or 3GB, sure, but the total shows 8.69, is total memory not a sum of internal and whatever system storage there is? I currently have no SD card in the unit.
Also, I've dealt with a Nook Color before, which the manufacturer decided to partition strangely, but even in that case you could see the entire amount of the space present, if fragmented.
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Thank you for replying. I'm a bit confused. It would be fine if the total storage indicated slightly less than 16GB, short by 2 or 3GB, sure, but the total shows 8.69, is total memory not a sum of internal and whatever system storage there is? I currently have no SD card in the unit.
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HTC partitions the single 16gb into two user-accessible sections - "Internal" and "Tablet." "Internal" is where apps and related files will be stored by default, and "Tablet" is what is allotted for you to use to store personal files (music, videos, pictures, documents, etc.). They're both parts of the same 16gb. They show up as different drives because you different levels of access to them. You have to add them up to get your total available amount on storage on the tablet itself.
Also, if you believe the 8.69gb is the total storage for the entire tablet, and you know you don't have a microSD card in there, where do you think the 3.94 comes from?
So don't worry, all of your storage is there. A lot of people often wonder and ask about this though, both with tablets and phones.
Quite helpful, chap, your time is appreciated. Thank you, and thanked.
Also, i will go back to school to learn my mobile device partitioning habits.
At the risk of becoming a bother, could anyone with an actual 16GB Flyer please confirm that the above info holds true? Thank you.
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At the risk of becoming a bother, could anyone with an actual 16GB Flyer please confirm that the above info holds true? Thank you.
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I don't have a 16Gb, but do have the 32Gb one, and I have:
Storage: Internal: Total: 7.88Gb
Storage: SD card: unavailable (because I don't have one in)
Storage: Tablet: Total: 19.61 Gb
19.61Gb + 7.88 Gb = 27.49 Gb
32 Gb - 27.49 Gb = 4.51 Gb (assuming the all the measures are the same)
... sidenote ... if I connect my Flyer in Disk Mode, then windows shows the Tablet as 19.6 Gb (21 053 489 152 bytes), so I guess the measures are are all binary, not decimal ... which is great.
If I go into my Revolutionary CWM & Mounts & Storage, I see mount commands for:
/system
/misc
/data
/cache
/sdcard (This is your "Tablet" storage)
/internal_sdcard (This is your "Internal" storage)
So /system, /misc, /data & /cache between them share the 4.51 Gb
If I fire up Titanium backup, I see:
System ROM: 1.05 Gb (317 Gb Free)
Internal: 8.45 Gb (7.91 Gb Free)
SD card: 21.00 Gb (19.6 Gb Free)
21+8.45+1.05 = 30.5 Gb (looks like decimal measures here, if so, there's 3.86 Gb unaccounted for, which would be the /cache, /misc and /data, which are not shown)
So, although the figures are different, I'd guess that bsweetness is spot on.
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I don't have a 16Gb, but do have the 32Gb one, and I have:
Storage: Internal: Total: 7.88Gb
Storage: SD card: unavailable (because I don't have one in)
Storage: Tablet: Total: 19.61 Gb
19.61Gb + 7.88 Gb = 27.49 Gb
32 Gb - 27.49 Gb = 4.51 Gb (assuming the all the measures are the same)
... sidenote ... if I connect my Flyer in Disk Mode, then windows shows the Tablet as 19.6 Gb (21 053 489 152 bytes), so I guess the measures are are all binary, not decimal ... which is great.
If I go into my Revolutionary CWM & Mounts & Storage, I see mount commands for:
/system
/misc
/data
/cache
/sdcard (This is your "Tablet" storage)
/internal_sdcard (This is your "Internal" storage)
So /system, /misc, /data & /cache between them share the 4.51 Gb
If I fire up Titanium backup, I see:
System ROM: 1.05 Gb (317 Gb Free)
Internal: 8.45 Gb (7.91 Gb Free)
SD card: 21.00 Gb (19.6 Gb Free)
21+8.45+1.05 = 30.5 Gb (looks like decimal measures here, if so, there's 3.86 Gb unaccounted for, which would be the /cache, /misc and /data, which are not shown)
So, although the figures are different, I'd guess that bsweetness is spot on.
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Yep. Regardless of the amount of storage, all of the Flyers and the View, along with several other HTC Android phones (as well as Android phones from other manufacturers like Motorola) all partition in the same way. I speak from experience with several, including the View that I currently own and the Flyer that I've extensively used. I have no reason to make it up.
Thank you, pmbellis, for taking the time and posting such detailed breakdown. It seems a bit of a strange partition scheme, but it pretty much confirms that I likely do have the 16GB model, rather than something smaller.
Thanks bsweetness and everyone, hopefully others will find this thread of use.
I don't know if this has been posted before (I've searched and didn't find anything) but I"m not able to get my full 16GB on my Razr VZW. Is this due to bloating? If so how do I get to the full 16GB???
If this is double posted I apologize!
It's a total of 16gb of memory within the RAZR, but it's partitioned across the internal SD card, internal memory, ROM memory, and for the OS as well. You also have to remember that formatted memory will be less due to how the file system allocates it's blocks.
For my phone, this is what I got:
634MB System ROM (where system apps are stored)
3.22GB Internal Memory (where user apps and data are stored)
8.59GB Internal SD Card (more storage for pictures, etc)
The remaining is probably allocated to the OS itself.
So, you have 16gb of internal memory, but about 11.81GB is available for storage by the user. You can't use all 16gb of memory because the phone needs that for the system ROM and OS.
If my memory is correct the Razr 16Gb internal storage is partitionned like this :
8Gb : user space
4Gb : apps
3Gb : OS + cache + webtop
Thanks for the quick responses. Anyway to get rid of the motocast/vzw popup that comes up whenever i plug my phone in? its pretty annoying
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Thanks for the quick responses. Anyway to get rid of the motocast/vzw popup that comes up whenever i plug my phone in? its pretty annoying
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In the bottom right of your PC screen, you should see an icon for this. It might be hidden, but usually Windows will show it immediately after connecting your phone. You can right click on it and tell it what to do when you connect your phone. One option is to not do anything.
It defaults to launching the Motocast video. I immediately told it to do nothing.
I just bought a Nexus 4 with 16GB internal storage. In Settings, it shows that I have approximately 13GB available. Am I correct in assuming that the OS is using the other 5GB?
The reason why I am curious about this is because I am considering buying the Zopo ZP900, which comes with only 4GB of internal memory for Ice Cream Sandwich. Although I've done quite a bit of research on the ZP900, I'm unable to find any resource that documents the size of the "Device memory" and "USB storage" partitions; looks like I might have to actually buy the phone just to find out! I really disklike the idea of buying a phone only to learn that there's minimal available memory.
I've noticed a few user comments on GizChina where users have complained about phones with only 30MB of available internal memory. Yes, the memory can be expanded with an SD card, but some applications require installation to the internal memory.
I searched the forum for an existing thread on this issue, but couldn't find one; please forgive me if this post is re-hahsing an old issue. Thanks.
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I just bought a Nexus 4 with 16GB internal storage. In Settings, it shows that I have approximately 13GB available. Am I correct in assuming that the OS is using the other 5GB?
The reason why I am curious about this is because I am considering buying the Zopo ZP900, which comes with only 4GB of internal memory for Ice Cream Sandwich. Although I've done quite a bit of research on the ZP900, I'm unable to find any resource that documents the size of the "Device memory" and "USB storage" partitions; looks like I might have to actually buy the phone just to find out! I really disklike the idea of buying a phone only to learn that there's minimal available memory.
I've noticed a few user comments on GizChina where users have complained about phones with only 30MB of available internal memory. Yes, the memory can be expanded with an SD card, but some applications require installation to the internal memory.
I searched the forum for an existing thread on this issue, but couldn't find one; please forgive me if this post is re-hahsing an old issue. Thanks.
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16-13 = 3. (not 5) and that part of memory taken up by system includes space for installing apps and stuff. Just get a 16 or 32 gb SD. (not for nexus4, I know) yeah some apps go into internal memory. Keep the unmovable ones on internal and move others to SD. mine has 8 gb internal memory. 4gb taken up by system.
yes the cut off space is used by the os and dedicated internal space for installation of apps n games. I think u cant install apps in your remaining internal memory. apps can installed only in dedicated internal memory or sdcard. if can also use ur remaining internal memory as sdcard by the help of rooting.
Hi. Im a bit confused.
I bought this Huawei phone Ascend Y200 with full consciousness about its unimpressive but good enough internal memory, but what surprised me is the fact that I got low memory message only after few apps installed, and I installed them them on 8GB SD card.
So I went to storage in settings and saw this :
Internal SD card
Total space 17.96MB
Available space 15,97 MB
Internal storage
Available space 4,79 MB
What in the world is that, i dont know.
I had android phones before, but I never saw something like this...
There was always SD card memory and internal memory, and internal was always as it was, 250 or 500 MB, depending of what mobile phone i had at the time.
But this has "SD card", "Internat SD card" and "Internal storage" and these last two are very small as you see.
thank you.
Have you tried Link2SD ?
I'm not sure exactly what model your phone is but I have a Huawei Ascend Y and it too has a memory short problem.
If you are rooted, it allows a partitioned SD to act as a linked storage area and you can move some of your non-system
apps to SD and link them thereby saving the internal memory of the phone.
After using the subject tool the internal memory is now over 44 megabytes on mine. Check it out on Google Pay! er,ah Play.