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I'm not discrediting DG in any way, but does anyone think that these leaks for various Galaxy devices were put out by AT&T to the dev scene to find the bugs that aren't spotted in the internal test group.
Maybe we are THE test group, or at least a test group?
hopefully!
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Actually thats exactly what i think...but its a good thing because the majority of the people on the boards are probably better than the shmucks they have to test with
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I know if I was an OEM dev I would follow these forums and CM development pretty closely.
To spot bugs/wants and maybe snipe some talent.
What diff does it make.
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If that's what's happening then its a win win for everyone. The dev community is happy and att can save some cash and get better testing on a large user base.
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I was thinking the samething yesterday. It has to be. Why wouldn't u the development in these forums are way better. We are pretty much R&D for them. It makes their job that much easier.
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Also, anyone that bricks their phone in the process has voided their warranty, so there is no monetary loss on AT&T/Samsung's end.
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I'm not discrediting DG in any way, but does anyone think that these leaks for various Galaxy devices were put out by AT&T to the dev scene to find the bugs that aren't spotted in the internal test group.
Maybe we are THE test group, or at least a test group?
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makes sense to me
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I'm expecting a simultaneous ICS rollout across all eligible Samsung devices on AT&T.
This is not the case...
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so what?
We are the guinea pigs but Its ok because we got to taste ICS and its yummy!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
Even if we are a 'test group' that at&t envisioned, and this ICS leak turns out to be basically flawless for most of us, I still wouldn't be surprised to see at&t take forever to do an OTA for this.
OP reads too much into it. Leaks like this is nothing new. We've got many leaks back in Captivate days. Some by Samfirmware.com, some by DesignGears and Some by Chainfire.
It's doesn't mean AT&T is using us to test drive it (imagine all the supporting cost involved if someone bricked the phone by un-successfully flashing the new firmware). It doesn't mean an official release is immenent either. I got Captivate GB leak installed on my Captivate back in Aug. 2011 and yet the offiical GB wasn't released until Feb. 2012.
Rememeber, all the leaks are full ROM. You are not going to keep your existing app and data. Official releases are always upgrades where you get to keep all your apps, settings and data. Such upgrades are never leaked out, only the full ROM.
The man has a source.. Not some random decision by ATT to just hand out beta builds. If it weren't for dg and his people we'd probably still be waiting months for ICS.
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Was going to say... I know that DG speaks the truth there. I dont think samsung is leaking this on purpose for us to test. These are real leaks
Just happy they are here.
I believe these "leaks" are done on purpose. They can only test these things in a lab or on test equipment so much. Companies like AT&T and Samsung need people like us using our phones in the real world for our day to day things to see how good they work. They then read these forums to see what people say about what does and does not work then take that to their labs to "fix". They may not participate in these forums but they do lurk here.
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does anyone think that these leaks for various Galaxy devices were put out by AT&T to the dev scene to find the bugs that aren't spotted in the internal test group.
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This wouldn't be the first time. This happened more than you guys think. And it's not necessarily a bad thing either.
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How did ics turn into a conspiracy theory? Does this subject have a point? What is the goal here? Listen we've got Ics to build on... Let's encourage our developers to do just that by not taking shots at them like this...
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tyler79durdan said:
... Let's encourage our developers to do just that by not taking shots at them like this...
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Wtf? What the HELL are you talking about?
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This is just my opinion and I know I'm probably going to get bashed for it, but I just don't see the development for this phone picking up. It's nothing to do with the developers we have because I think they're great, but just a matter of bad timing. With the One X and SGS3 coming out it seems to me that the developers we could get are holding out for those phones. I really wish it would pick up because I think this phone has a lot of potential. What is everyone else's opinion? Does this sound like a logical conclusion?
Maybe if this phone came it at a different time it would be a different story.
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Development is delayed simply because theres no kernel source for ics on the note, so no custom kernels are holding out development, also no vendor/binary source available to build from source, I've been looking at what we need for developing cm9 but I hd some issues with my laptop so that was delayed, I'm sure once we get more sources we will see more development.
RoloRacer on ICS Galaxy Note!
I've been thinking about getting into some rom development for this phone. I'm smart enough to do it but I just haven't taken the time to learn how yet. I don't know where to start. Kinda wanna learn from a developer.
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With the phone being only 2 months old tomorrow and no kernel yet, I think there's been a lot of development. When the kernel comes this phone will take off.
yeah, I think it will pick up too once an actual source ICS is released, which I bet comes pretty soon..
And 2 new roms just dropped this morning
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And 2 new roms just dropped this morning
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Which is the last new rom besides Seraphim from collective?
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The revamped rom. It's not brand new but they did a lot of fixing from rc1
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I agree with RoloRacer...
Once developers get the ics kernel source, I'm sure we will see a lot more roms popping up. I think we have enough great developers, but they need the proper tools before they can start building. We just need to be patient.
That being said, I'm a rom junkie myself...so I feel your pain....just be strong!
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I agree with RoloRacer...
Once developers get the ics kernel source, I'm sure we will see a lot more roms popping up. I think we have enough great developers, but they need the proper tools before they can start building. We just need to be patient.
That being said, I'm a rom junkie myself...so I feel your pain....just be strong!
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I am waiting for the source and then I will be releasing my DoomZday 4.0 rom
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patience. The phone is only 2 months old.
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I guess you guys are right lol. But I still think the two phones coming out may screw us a bit. =/
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There are multiple roms and themes for gingerbread, as well as a few roms and themes for ICS.
What are you expecting, 10 pages of roms?
The ics kernel isn't even released yet.
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no matter what phone you get there is always the next best thing around the corner
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no matter what phone you get there is always the next best thing around the corner
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I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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Patience is key. You can't force a dev to make a ROM or "develop" for a device. They have lives as well. Everything is pretty close to being here.
Besides if your not likening the "Development" you can always try and make a ROM buddy. Then maybe you can see how its not done overnight.
Oh look this thread again
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On the One X we went months before we had what we have here. Locked boot loader, an unrootable stock release and no source.
How can you call the Free Gee project and the N4 conversion and such slow development? /boggle
I felt the same way at first, and I am probably going to buy the moto X phone or the gsIV, but right now you just gotta find a room you like and settle into it.
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Btw I came to this phone from the sgs3. A huge dev section isn't the only thing to base buying a phone.on. this phone has some sweet hardware. Excellent build quality, and awesome speed. I'm in love.
@Phonephan, I totally hear where you're coming from. I would have hoped for more options by now as well, but I knew what I was getting into when I picked this bad boy up and that there was the chance its potential would go unrealized. However, Rome wasn't built in a day and there have been some unique challenges that some very good developers are about to overcome. Our empire is about to be built! We've already got a solid JB build that doesn't require conversion thanks to SnowLeopardJB. There are a couple solid ICS ROM's as well (shout out to team nocturnal, nygfan, etc.) The real treats are just around the corner and if you check in to the irc chat room you will see just how close. Hang in there bro, you'll be glad you did.
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PhonePhan said:
I loved this phone is did a lot of research and reviewed videos on this phone before I got it and it looked beast. I'm disappointed that there is SO LITTLE development with this phone, I'm thinking about switching to a more popular phone that everyone actually knows and cares to build roms for and support I really like this phone ,but again it just needs way more attention for me. Anyone else feels this way?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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You need an N4. Oh wait this phone can become one... What are you looking for that the existing custom stock roms or conversion don't provide?
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Nexus 4 with GPS and LTE.
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whats a rom?
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whats a rom?
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half of a rom-com?
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whats a rom?
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Something that wasn't built in a day?
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Ah well I've never built one of those. All mine take a few hours
Stroked from my Dirty Nocturnal'd Optimus G
This thread needs to get closed before things get ugly...
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A rom is a pile of code that makes my sh!t look cooler than the dude's phone next to me... aka, bragging rights!
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There are devs lurking, just be patient and see what happens. Until then go convert your Optimus G to an N4 like others have stated..
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Funny to think that just a few years ago modifying the OS on your phone was not an option. Now folks cry when they don't have 100 variations of the same base rom within a week or two.
Maybe buy a device you like next time. Or wait longer and not buy the device on launch day, that way you can give the dev community time to work thereby ensuring you get an active community to take care of your flashing fix.
Why exactly do you feel the need to tell us that you're leaving? Did you do any development? Write any documentation? Are you afraid we wouldn't notice you were gone?
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Seriously!? We have an ICS phone that developers have transformed into an upgraded nexus 4. Other developers have domesticated foreign JB Roms so well that this phone has every feature enabled today. We may only have a few topics... But major progress happens in them. This is the height of Android options with native pure Google and branded on the most recent versions.
You can install Roms from 3 forums onto this phone... US OG, Intl OG and N4.
The conversion will really pay off in six months when this is the first device with SD card and full android 5 while every other phone has gmail 5... Converted to 4.1
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Okay...
Didn't see that coming. If you look at my post I said I'm possibly getting a new phone not telling you I am and I was asking people if they felt the same. Also it's been months since its release so the fact that it's only 2 real ROMs for this phone makes me upset no, disrespect to devs obviously but it does seem like this phone is getting like no attention and it's one if the best phones out. Converting to n4 is a bit too much just to enjoy this phone. This phone was meant to be an LGOG not a nexus ..it would have been named nexus
Anyways that was just a thought/concern I had about the phone.. Don't see why people are offended?
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Nobody bothered to develop ICS Roms other than pretty much stock based ones since we were promised Jelly Bean so early and obviously that didn't happen. Once Jelly Bean gets officially released, I know the devs will be all over it and Roms won't be an issue. The nexus 4 conversion is easy to do, I did it intoxicated twice. So either do that or just be patient. We're just waiting on AT&T now
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I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
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Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.
I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
Might I suggest checking out the development and original development threads?
You can currently follow along with joelz while they trouble shoot a new port.
AOSP
CM10
MIUI
Sense 4
Sense 5
Several kernels
Looks like development to me.
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I am curious as to why there is a lack of develoment on a quadcore/1080p spec phone? Is it in large part to HTC being stingey with it's kernel source code?
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shobon said:
What are you talking about, there's plenty of development on this device.
My biggest issue with the DNA is having to pick a rom to flash...
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You may be blind sir...
cstrife999 said:
You may be blind sir...
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Im thinking that may be the case
Bigandrewgold said:
Im thinking that may be the case
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In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
cstrife999 said:
In that case it's impressive that he or she was able to spell correctly lol.
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Braille
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Braille
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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... Of Course!!! I'm dumb.
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Seriously, is there something you want that is not developed such as a specific rom, kernel, recovery, etc?
I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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I think there is plenty of development for the DNA. What could you possibly want? Everything has already been listed. It's leagues ahead of the Droid Razr I used to have. Let's not forget that a new method for S-off is still pretty new. That's the major reason why development was lagging behind and since then it's been booming. You already have several different 4.2.2 AOSP roms to choose from. Then you have the Sense 4+ and 5 roms that are perfect. I personally don't see how development is so bad.
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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Cause some people like 40+ copies of the same rom with different names. lol
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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Is it because they are mostly built from the same base? I can see that being confusing to some, thinking there is no real development going on.. However, the same base != the same rom. There is real development going on for our device and all other devices on these forums.. I for one feel we have plenty to choose from and things are only going to get better and easier down the road... May have an official Sense 5 rom for the devs to play around with if Verizon gets things going.. I love it here!! Am I wrong? :good: :highfive::highfive:
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There are no two ROMs that are the same right now in the original android development section.
If you go try each one out you will see that they really are very different.
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That was sarcasm. In other words most of our roms have a completely different feel. On the GNex there were a lot of dups for sure.
Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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We also have MIUI!!!
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Considering that this is a Verizon exclusive, locked bootloader, low popularity, CDMA phone, I'd say that delopement here is going pretty good. We have plenty of Roms, consisting of stock Sense 4 based, Sense 5 based, and CM/AOSP based. We even have an alpha build of Sense 5 4.2.2! We also have decent kernel development, 2 or 3 for AOSP and several for Sense. I've come to trust @.torrented and @pio_masaki for giving you the best overall user experience and working with the user to fix and repair not only their ROMs but miscellaneous bugs completely unrelated to them. These two have made it a truly great dev community. Because of these two, I am perfectly fine with the stage of development on our devices. If either of you are reading this, I love you guys!
If extensive development is what you want, get off Verizon and buy a Nexus 4 or a Google Edition HTC One/SGS4
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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Don't get me wrong, its an amazing phone that could easily compete with the SGS4, but it's Verizon exclusive so it never made it to that status. It was a mistake on Verizons and HTCs part to make this beast a carrier exclusive.
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cstrife999 said:
I don't think it has "low popularity" lol... Considering up till a month or so ago it was top selling if not near so on Verizon.
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well, considering that verizon sells the iphone and the SGS4 (and the SGS3 if you want to talk about 2012), will them having close to 50% and 30% market share, respectively, i dont really see how the DNA could have been anywhere near a top seller. not to mention the note 2 and others. i would probably label this phone "unpopular". most people have never even heard of this phone. i'm glad they are making the "droid" branding exclusive to motorola. the DNA's exclusivity to Verizon killed the awesome potential this phone had. but still, i think we have awesome development. except, i dont understand why we have 5 million aosp roms.