It is offical per Google Android SVP
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/google-sundar-pichai-live-at-d11/
xeni said:
It is offical per Google Android SVP
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/google-sundar-pichai-live-at-d11/
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Please please please let Google release software in RUU format.
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Please please please let Google release software in RUU format.
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We can dream!
http://blog.htc.com/2013/05/htc-one-google-nexus-experience/?gb87
OK so we get s off change the Cid to Google cid and done.
THIS ROCKS. WE WILL HAVE 100% Functionally in AOSP!!!!!
I hope they release a ruu
Damn - I have had my ATT HTC One for a month. I want this version! Perfect device with no bloat - I just want to flash this RUU or ROM
It'd be nice to have official support and be able to install Sense as an add on theme. Google should just buy out HTC.
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Looking forward to flashing this when it becomes available. I hope it would be as simple as it sounds, I mean, its the exact same hardware, its just cleaning out the software portion.
June 26th.
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-one-with-nexus-user-experience-set-to-arrive-june-26-20130530/
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Can't wait until this official google build of AOSP for the One gets implemented into CM 10.1.
Man, I made the right decision with this phone.
sooo.... how will they handle the camera? just a 4 mp shooter?
joshuadjohnson22 said:
sooo.... how will they handle the camera? just a 4 mp shooter?
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Ultrapixel is included from the presser I read.
“A special edition of the new HTC One running stock Android will be exclusively available through the Google Play store in the United States starting on June 26th. This edition pairs the all-metal unibody design, low-light capabilities of the UltraPixel camera and dual front-facing stereo speakers of the new HTC One with the stock version of the latest Android software, Jelly Bean 4.2.2.”
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OK so we get s off change the Cid to Google cid and done.
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no need for that, once they release an RUU (or leak it ), just dump the proprietaries and build the source
HTC looks like they will be releasing it for current owners as an option, that would be SHWEET!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/05/30/htc-may-release-a-vanilla-android-rom-for-existing-one-owners/
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no need for that, once they release an RUU (or leak it ), just dump the proprietaries and build the source
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Of course that would work too. I'm just thinking conversion would be a one time thing.
So much for HTC saying that there was no truth to a stock Android HTC One.
Also, what gets me is, why is the Stock One priced at $599 and the Stock S4 at $649? They're running the same software and the build quality of the S4 sucks compared to the One. It seems the prices should be switched. Are all the media brand specific sheep now? There is no way a stock S4 is worth more than a stock One. It's just not possible. Everything the S4 had going for it (software features) is gone. They're adding $50 for the Samsung brand? BS.
FYI
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/30/nexus-experience-htc-one/
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So much for HTC saying that there was no truth to a stock Android HTC One.
Also, what gets me is, why is the Stock One priced at $599 and the Stock S4 at $649? They're running the same software and the build quality of the S4 sucks compared to the One. It seems the prices should be switched. Are all the media brand specific sheep now? There is no way a stock S4 is worth more than a stock One. It's just not possible. Everything the S4 had going for it (software features) is gone. They're adding $50 for the Samsung brand? BS.
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Removable sd card? And we don't know what will work and what won't. Sgs4 has 4 or more sensors than the HTC one. The finger float, barometer, humidity and temperature sensors just to name a few.
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Removable sd card? And we don't know what will work and what won't. Sgs4 has 4 or more sensors than the HTC one. The finger float, barometer, humidity and temperature sensors just to name a few.
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It'll probably be like the ir blaster in the One and not be implemented.
SkizzMcNizz said:
It'll probably be like the ir blaster in the One and not be implemented.
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Perhaps, but of those sensors are still in there then it will drive up the cost even if they aren't used.
These are supposed to be developer phones to allow developers to use anything hardware wise the phones come with. Samsung might even release the drivers so they can be implemented into AOSP kernels.
But either way, that explains why the SGS4 cost more. It has a lot more sensors and removable SDcard plus a slightly bigger battery.
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So, do you think samsung will ever update these devices to ice cream sandwich? Would anyone care enough to try to make a port? I don't have this device yet but I plan to get the 5 inch one for christmas and no ice cream sandwich won't stop me from getting it but I was just curious. Thanks!
I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
nyanyan: you might check your time zone setting here, your clock looks off.
nyanyan said:
I honestly don't expect Samsung to update these to ICS(but here's to hoping). We may see a port sometime though(I'm personally waiting for someone to port cyanogenmod to it, so that I can do some work with porting)
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nyanyan: you might check your time zone setting here, your clock looks off.
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Actually, on my side, it doesn't look off at all...
I hope someone makes a port for this right now I'm using a Ice Cream Launcher instead of the built in Launcher.
Not to get off the topic too much...but does anyone know specific time frame Sammy will update the players so we can access Media Hub?
last i read there would be an "update in the future"....boo!
Curious, I don't have a Samsung TV (but may buy one soon), how is "Media Hub" different than "Smart View" (that's on these players)?
ICS?
I hope someone makes a port for this right now. Anyone had news?
5" with ICS ..
I bought one and this is very great but ICS is cooool...
Samsung G.Wifi + 1ghz + 5" + ICS.. =
Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The YP series existed a long time ago as YEPP (young, energetic, passionate, person)because it is the model code for the mp3 players for samsung. it is not obligated to be a young audience. Take the samsung p3 for exemple (YP-P3) which is released in 2007 or 2008 (way before the article.) I think they will maybe release it if they release it to the original galaxy s (they have the same hardware capabilities.)Otherwise we can always wait for some custom roms. (CM9 ) And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
media hub is the acess point for movies, tv shows, etc for samsung mobile devices...i have several movies and shows i would love to watch on the player while traveling but i dont think we have access yet without an OTA.
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And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
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And I want to know why people prefer 5.0 to the 4.0? (There's not enough talk about the 4.0 as I have one.)
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I bought the 5.0 because it is pretty much the biggest possible size that I can still hold it with one hand. If you are commuting on train STANDING, you need to grab the hand rail using the other hand. Galaxy tab or iPad are way too big to use this way. For me, 4.0 is too small, I may just go with some newer super phone with 4 inch+ screen. Actually the new Galaxy Note is interesting.
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I agree! I mean, I would think the 4" would be more popular, since it can easily fit in pocket, but the screen is still plenty big!
Really too bad because I have a feeling all development towards roms is going to go to the 5.0, and not the 4.0 (not sure if a 5.0 rom would work on a 4.0).
Concerning ICS, kinda doubt it since it took them almost a year to update it to gingerbread!
Of course, maybe they will, but by that time, jellybean will be the new kid on the block, lol!
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As I said there's always the option for the custom rom but as you said all the developpement will go to the 5.0. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
Yup, just saw that, hope it will get things rolling! Wonder how hard it would be to get it running on U.S version...
Only now do I see I should have payed a little extra for importing a international version instead of U.S. version, Ah well.
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(. As you had probably saw on ABI there a custom rom and kernel for the internationnal 4.0 (this is a great beginning I think.) I did some tests and post a little review on the thread. It is great for a first custom rom!
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Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
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Do you have a link? I wonder what is ABI .
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ABI is Anything but ipod which it's talking about anything but ipod actually. The link for the firmware and kernel is there.
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66820
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Why won't they update it? They're a month old!
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They're more that one month old in some parts of the world.
And they already upgraded it from froyo to gingerbread so an ICS might not come right now (if it ever comes).
I hope I'm wrong, just having bought mine to replace an ipod touch.
I just hope there wil be at least a cyanogen or other custom rom with ICS.
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Actually I don't have high hopes for ICS. The "Y" in the device name YP-G70 means "(Young) – These are entry models or strategic models for emerging markets or a younger audience more sensitive to price."
See more about the naming scheme here http://www.androidguys.com/2011/08/24/samsung-debuts-galaxy-products-naming-convention-eve-ifa/ .
I think Samsung will put their ICS effort on other "high-end" devices first.
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The "Y" is in the model number, not the device name. I have a YP-G70 and the device name is Samsung Galaxy "S" WiFi 5.0
Hi,
I am soon getting EVO LTE and have a doubt. I read somewhere that sense camera is much better than the AOSP camera due to the fact that sense camera is tied to some proprietary firmware.
Is it true?
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honest1212 said:
Hi,
I am soon getting EVO LTE and have a doubt. I read somewhere that sense camera is much better than the AOSP camera due to the fact that sense camera is tied to some proprietary firmware.
Is it true?
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yes because aosp use different drivers and is more like generic stuff.
think of it like a video card running on windows drivers vs from nvidia or amd.
the camera driver on sense controls the built in hardware isp chip. i believe htc calls it ImageChip
you could find more info about it on this link
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5
Ok. Read in full. That means that to fully utilise the camera hardware, it's better to be on sense based ROM like mean.
That was really quick help.
Thanks
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For the time being sense is better, the aosp camera is coming along slowly. I think the cm10 devs were able to port most of the libs over. Image sense is a bit of a gimmick, the phone isn't taking those beautiful pictures, the chip is cleaning them up. The image sense chip basically denoises and adjusts overall color and what you get is the end result not the original picture.
Is it the quality that is different? I was literally about to post the exact same thread - I'm going on vacation next week and really want to take advantage of the camera, considering I'm using ParanoidAndroid right now. I may switch back to MeanRom in order to use the camera, though.
Good Thread!
I would stick to sense for the time being, it still has way more features the aosp camera
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I would stick to sense for the time being, it still has way more features the aosp camera
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True, the Sense camera has more features but I've been using the 4.2 camera port on my EVO and its awesome. Deck even is starting to include it on his CM10 ROM as of 11/4 so need for extra flashing.
Woo Hoo!
I've been on the Galaxy Nexus for a while running custom ROM's: Currently the latest JBSourcery. I've been lusting on a new phone for a while but am spoiled with the pure Google experience; it would be difficult to go back to a locked and skinned phone.
When the unlocked GSM GS4 was announced, even though I'm on Verizon, this was great news! With the added resources of an unlocked natural Jelly Bean phone out there, it can't take too long for the developers to put together some custom ROM's for our version. I was willing to wait til the fall to see if there was a CDMA Nexus 4 Plus or something but now I don't have to!
agreed!
If 32GB it would be real cool. Knowing Google, Samsung had to remove the sd card slot
rushless said:
If 32GB it would be real cool. Knowing Google, Samsung had to remove the sd card slot
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i thought i read somewhere that the 32gb S4 is exclusive to AT&T for a while on the US Shores. *shrug* could be wrong.
The only JB rom I have flashed has been CM 10.x nightly
How would a pure JB compare? Is it basically the same?
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How would a pure JB compare? Is it basically the same?
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pure JB would stock android, like the Nexus 4. So basically, you're removing all the samsung features and gimmicks and TouchWiz.
yyhd said:
i thought i read somewhere that the 32gb S4 is exclusive to AT&T for a while on the US Shores. *shrug* could be wrong.
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I agree, but seems the only one that will is already carrying the option. Nothing from the other carriers.
Yeah that'll definitely be nice to have but the CDMA RIL will still be a pain as always.
just on a note for those who are interested:
HTC apparently got their WiFi certified for a upcoming firmware upgrade (apparently to JB according to their naming scheme) on December 3rd 2012 already!!
=> http://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA17286 ... check here for the actual certificate
=> http://certifications.prod.wi-fi.org/pdf/certificate/public/download?cid=WFA17287 ... for the certificate for a mobile access-point on fireball
requested and tested firmware version is stated as firmware 3.02.605.1! ... and the Dec 3rd 2012 timeframe well matches the intented and proposed JB4.1.x update for our fireball.
in comparison, the original certificate for the initial release of fireball was done on mid February 2012 already (certificate numbers: WFA13957 & WFA14139). so it's maybe not that much HTC to blame that the intended JB-update for our fireball wasn't published, but really Verizon in the end! ((but okay, HTC also didn't publish the updated kernel-src for our la(te)st OTA 2.19.605.2 either))
NB1: this is just some add-on info! i obviously have NO access to that rom or any further details on this build that is named on wi-fi.org !!
NB2: oh and YES i DO know that there IS a published rom by HTC labeled 3.02.605.1, just that this was for Vivow (Droid2) on Verizon more than a year earlier ... but the certificate states that the test had been passed for PJ53xxx, which indeed IS our Fireball and NOT Vivow
Well... Whadda ya know. Wouldn't that be a nice leak for us?
I continue to wonder why this phone was (and still is) the shunned bastage phone of Verizon. I also wonder why the camera was seriously downgraded from the OG Dinc (and Dinc2). I'm still quite content with my little Fireball, though.
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I also wonder why the camera was __seriously__ downgraded from the OG Dinc (and Dinc2).
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what do you mean? (i dun have a Dinc2 to compare against, but) ... both are 8MP and the "current" Dinc4G even offers 1080p video whereas the Dinc2 only had 720p? the only diff i can spot as such as the "downgrade" of only using a single- instead of a double-flash?
Very interesting. Verizon is just gaming us and trying to get us to buy more phones and commit to another 2 years of contract. I still have my unlimited data and will continue to run my rooted phones with custom ROMs. This device running CM 10.2.1 is really a great device. I also have a Droid DNA on Kit Kat, but many times will switch back to my DINC 4g LTE when I want a more compact device or run with an extended battery. My entire family is on the DINC 4G LTE running CM 10.2 and they too are happy. I do need to try the script by Jose to get apps on the SD card and see if it will work with CM 10.2, but no time to try that yet.
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what do you mean? (i dun have a Dinc2 to compare against, but) ... both are 8MP and the "current" Dinc4G even offers 1080p video whereas the Dinc2 only had 720p? the only diff i can spot as such as the "downgrade" of only using a single- instead of a double-flash?
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It has to do with the image quality. I suppose I could be wrong, but my OG Dinc produced much better (still) pictures than my Dinc4G does. The Dinc4G is missing an ImageChip which would have allowed it to produce better pictures. It could have been included, but was not to keep manufacturing costs down.
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It has to do with the image quality. I suppose I could be wrong, but my OG Dinc produced much better (still) pictures than my Dinc4G does. The Dinc4G is missing an ImageChip which would have allowed it to produce better pictures. It could have been included, but was not to keep manufacturing costs down.
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if it's about the ImageSense chip ... that was _new_ to the (older) One Series (like OneX, OneX+, OneS etc) ... so i highly doubt that your OG Dinc would have had anything like it ... as for image quality, my GF is still always amazed by the still image quality of my Dinc4G ... while she has a HTC SensationXE (one gen and year earlier/older than the Dinc4G) ... nothing to complain about it on my side
but plz: now btt ... thanks
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if it's about the ImageSense chip ... that was _new_ to the (older) One Series (like OneX, OneX+, OneS etc) ... so i highly doubt that your OG Dinc would have had anything like it ... as for image quality, my GF is still always amazed by the still image quality of my Dinc4G ... while she has a HTC SensationXE (one gen and year earlier/older than the Dinc4G) ... nothing to complain about it on my side
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Yes, I know its new, but I'm still sure the OG gave a better picture somehow
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Agreed. soo... how do we get our grubby paws on 3.02.605.1 for our little Dinc4G? Regardless of how I feel about the pictures (maybe I got a bum phone for camera parts), I love the phone overall. Fast and small. There is nothing out there right now compelling to me to change phones.
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Agreed. soo... how do we get our grubby paws on 3.02.605.1 for our little Dinc4G? Regardless of how I feel about the pictures (maybe I got a bum phone for camera parts), I love the phone overall. Fast and small. There is nothing out there right now compelling to me to change phones.
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the _latest/last known_ build for fireball was supposedly numbered: "3.16.605.1" ... but i have no idea whether this is still JB4.1 Sense4+ or if that was the intended release numbering for JB4.2 Sense5 already?!
best bet?! ... let's try to circumvent Verizon (as they didn't show any real volunteerism to support the fireball any further / well, AT ALL with further even PROMISED updates) ........ directly address HTC with a "smaller" petition to RELEASE (at least), their latest/last "RC-whatever" JB build _they_ (at HTC) prepared for Verizon to test ... as:
* HTC _had_ done all the needed work for fireball already!
* HTC software programmers had been paid for their work (just no one is currently _allowed_ to use it?! nor is it anywhere even remotely available (for devs))
* HTC has thereby finished to create a working JB-kernel (one for JB4.1 & one for JB4.2) ... _and_ a new Sense-ROM each for those as well ........ from what IS KNOWN to the community _already_
* HTC __should__ make those (assumingly RC-grade) update-roms AVAILABLE to the community ... as it doesn't cost them any further programming ppl to pay, but raises THEIR credibility a LOT and maybe even helps to convince ppl to put their money into HTC again (for any possible newer devices)
* HTC wouldn't loose out (on Verizon) ... as THEY (Verizon!) apparently have NO PLAN AT ALL to release the long promised JB upgrade ANYHOW :crying: ... even IF they (Verizon again!) already did internal tests for BOTH ... JB4.1 & JB4.2 on fireball !!!
* __if__ ... HTC would only release it as a "TEST -rom / -kernel / -src" ... they wouldn't even loose if it does NOT work 100% bugfree, as it's not an "officially recommended upgrade path" .... but rather a TEST-build for __developers__ and for the community!
but for such kind of a stunt *cough* ... we would need "a bit more" ... than just 10 very interested & brave remaining souls for fireball here on XDA ... to make that kinda thing happen :angel:
TOO LATE! I am on KitKat here bros!
And also once my bro is done with his contracts, I am a free bird! I can finally move over to GSM networks and get the Nexus or Google Play Edition phones. Verizon has screwed me over for the last time!
But in all honesty, this phone is pretty great! So far the best I have had, and surprisingly CM is extremely stable on this phone! Very happy with it.
Oh, by the way I am back from my slumber! How y'all!?
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kimba99 said:
just on a note for those who are interested:
HTC apparently got their WiFi certified for a upcoming firmware upgrade (apparently to JB according to their naming scheme) on December 3rd 2012 already!!
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in comparison, the original certificate for the initial release of fireball was done on mid February 2012
NB1: this is just some add-on info! i obviously have NO access to that rom or any further details on this build that is named on wi-fi.org !!
NB2: oh and YES i DO know that there IS a published rom by HTC labeled 3.02.605.1, just that this was for Vivow (Droid2) on Verizon more than a year earlier ... but the certificate states that the test had been passed for PJ53xxx, which indeed IS our Fireball and NOT Vivow
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I am confused... Are we in 2014 or 2012? Did I miss a trip in a time machine y'all took? Can you clarify the dates?
Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Good phone, but i dont see it like some nice "upgrade" from g2.....
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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I have a G Pro 2.
Well, that's the most unsupported smartphone I ever had
heavy_metal_man said:
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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Well said :good:
Far from it. With the LG G2, there are probably more unique options than any other (non-nexus) phone. It can run the skinned G2 software, stock or tweaked. You can flash the skinned G3 software with an updated look. You can flash the LG Flex software. You can run Stock Android in 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 as it's similiarities with the Nexus 5 makes it easier to develop.
I will concede that within skinned roms, the updates are rarer... that will most likely change in the next two months as LG's Official 5.0 updates will go through more optimization until it works as a dev thinks it should.
ossito2012 said:
Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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=JKT= said:
I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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My previous phone was HTC One X, HTC said they wanted to update it to 4.4.2 but nvidia dropped support for its tegra socket, so they didnt have drivers to do that, but i see that htc one m7 is doing good, it will get lolipop till end of next month, so i think they got better with updates, at least thats almost 2 years of fast updates what you want more? Even google haven't updated their galaxy nexus cuz of dropped socket support...
frogger72 said:
I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
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I've heard the Verizon model has super sweet CM12 support and everything just amazing works perfectly. I haven't tried it yet but there are several Lollipop roms for the VS980 model, which is what I have and follow dev for.
The amount of number of various models doesn't help, although by now most roms support all variants with options to select your model for the fine tweaks each different model requires. The only model that has issues is the Verizon one using generic roms. It seems the stock Messaging app doesn't like to do MMS (I think because Verizon uses IMS). Not that there are road blocks. Lots of ports have fine tuned Verizon editions with everything working. I am personally loving the G3 Verizon rom port. It has everything I want/need and no issues.
I agree that the LG G2 does have plenty of options to choose from and it isn't just Stock or AOSP or CM.
I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
Actually I disagree. Yes G2 is not the best in the field of development and flashing but compared to many other flagships, I prefere it. Take a look at development section of exynous version of samsung flagships. Also there is no bootloader lock or knox or... Here
So that's one of the reasons after messing around with a few phones, including note3, nexus 5, G3 and one m7, I came back to g2
undeadking said:
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
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When flashing pay attention to model/variant you have, you can end with brick if you select wrong model.
I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
Maczuga said:
I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
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That is the problem with any other phone too unless nexus or cyanogen inc phones.
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ossito2012 said:
I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I suggest you stick to Nexus devices, which is what I'll do once I sell my G2. They tend to have the best action, but I have yet to see a new community with the variety of ROMs that the HTC G1 had...
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totally hoping that the new rumors that LG will build a Nexus phone are true, and hoping it will be a real phone and that stupid Nexus 6