Hi,
I am soon getting EVO LTE and have a doubt. I read somewhere that sense camera is much better than the AOSP camera due to the fact that sense camera is tied to some proprietary firmware.
Is it true?
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honest1212 said:
Hi,
I am soon getting EVO LTE and have a doubt. I read somewhere that sense camera is much better than the AOSP camera due to the fact that sense camera is tied to some proprietary firmware.
Is it true?
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yes because aosp use different drivers and is more like generic stuff.
think of it like a video card running on windows drivers vs from nvidia or amd.
the camera driver on sense controls the built in hardware isp chip. i believe htc calls it ImageChip
you could find more info about it on this link
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5
Ok. Read in full. That means that to fully utilise the camera hardware, it's better to be on sense based ROM like mean.
That was really quick help.
Thanks
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For the time being sense is better, the aosp camera is coming along slowly. I think the cm10 devs were able to port most of the libs over. Image sense is a bit of a gimmick, the phone isn't taking those beautiful pictures, the chip is cleaning them up. The image sense chip basically denoises and adjusts overall color and what you get is the end result not the original picture.
Is it the quality that is different? I was literally about to post the exact same thread - I'm going on vacation next week and really want to take advantage of the camera, considering I'm using ParanoidAndroid right now. I may switch back to MeanRom in order to use the camera, though.
Good Thread!
I would stick to sense for the time being, it still has way more features the aosp camera
om4 said:
I would stick to sense for the time being, it still has way more features the aosp camera
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True, the Sense camera has more features but I've been using the 4.2 camera port on my EVO and its awesome. Deck even is starting to include it on his CM10 ROM as of 11/4 so need for extra flashing.
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I've played with several roms, shiftsense, liquidsense (several versions)..
Most of these roms all have different cameras. I'm curious if its possible to install "just the camera app" and have particular versions.
I'm looking for the one that allows you to make panoramic shots, built in. I know there are apps in the market that do this, but they suck in comparison to the one thats come with different versions of roms, built in.
I'm currently running liquid smooth v3.2, its got what appears to be the camera from android 1.0, from 5 years ago.
Skyraider 1.3 has panorama built in and coming from liquid myself I have to say that the change isn't so bad. Deep customization is still there and battery life on Imo's 5.1.0 is amazing.
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its got what appears to be the camera from android 1.0, from 5 years ago.
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Android didn't exist 5 years ago. The first commercially available phone to run Android was the HTC Dream (AKA G1), released on 22 October 2008.
Android was around before the G1 technically...but that's another story. Anyway, I use the MIUI camera on my Thunderolt running CM7, with the stock camera as a backup since the particular MIUI camera I have installed doesn't support the front camera. The only problem is if you use both cameras, after switching back your pictures will look screwed up when taken, though they look normal when you actually view them later. I should update mine now that I think about it...
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Android was around before the G1 technically...but that's another story. Anyway, I use the MIUI camera on my Thunderolt running CM7, with the stock camera as a backup since the particular MIUI camera I have installed doesn't support the front camera. The only problem is if you use both cameras, after switching back your pictures will look screwed up when taken, though they look normal when you actually view them later. I should update mine now that I think about it...
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you mean that weird color in miui cam? Try setting resolution to 8mp
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This might be a terrible question but is it at all possible to install a sense based camera on an aosp rom? I love aosp but hate the camera with a passion.
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No, you need to have Sense to use a Sense camera. Kind of sucks, the Sense camera is *****in'.
Anyone have the proper ICS camera apk? I tired a few(AOSP Rezound port and CM9 to name a few), but none of the were working right. I was able to get one to work right, and it worked pretty fast, but images were limited to 2mp, and none of white balance features were working correctly. Thanks.
Anyone, please?
It's stuck @ 3mp at the moment, not sure if anyone is trying to fix that or not. The HTC camera software is pretty much just as fast if you turn off the preview. ICS software is still a bit quicker when the flash is on, otherwise they're virtually the same in speed.
Why is the ICS camera limited at 3MP currently?
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Why is the ICS camera limited at 3MP currently?
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That is how it works when it is built from AOSP source. You need to add proprietary HTC stuff to get the full quality. That is how it was explained that Oxygen (pure AOSP) had low megapixels on the HTC desire vs. CM7 that was high quality. The guy making it wanted pure aosp, so he would never add the htc camera stuff that was needed for better pictures.
I am just wondering, is the shutter speed of the camera software based or hardware based... just seen how fast the galaxy sIII camera shutter is and even that of the google nexus compared to the one EVO3D have... hope its a software base... so that at least there is a chance brilliant devs can include it in their custom ROMS...
been asking this for sometime now... but not getting any answer so far..
+1 to this.
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DENLIM said:
I am just wondering, is the shutter speed of the camera software based or hardware based... just seen how fast the galaxy sIII camera shutter is and even that of the google nexus compared to the one EVO3D have... hope its a software base... so that at least there is a chance brilliant devs can include it in their custom ROMS...
been asking this for sometime now... but not getting any answer so far..
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Hardware.
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DENLIM said:
I am just wondering, is the shutter speed of the camera software based or hardware based... just seen how fast the galaxy sIII camera shutter is and even that of the google nexus compared to the one EVO3D have... hope its a software base... so that at least there is a chance brilliant devs can include it in their custom ROMS...
been asking this for sometime now... but not getting any answer so far..
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I remember reading some time ago that Chad was working on adding zero shutter lag to the 3d through his kernel, but it would break the 3d capabilities of the camera. It did not happen afaik, but I am not sure if it was because it ended up not being possible due to hardware or what.
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I don't use 3D that much so zero lag on 2D would be nice.
im pretty sure its hardware, but i dont know, in the recent ICS leak, the roms that have been coming out have been outstanding but it seems the shutter lag has gotten slower then the GB bulid roms. it could just be me though.
have that feeling too.. but cant try the gb stock rom now... just dont want to go backwards...
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have that feeling too.. but cant try the gb stock rom now... just dont want to go backwards...
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Same here, since I went to MeanROM ICS my battery has been burning faster, but the user interface of ICS is worth it... not to mention the facial recognition lock screen? oh yeah...
There's a camera app called Fast Burst Camera that you guys could try, there's a feature limited free version, and a pay version, i was looking forward to chad's zsl... but anyways, i like the results of the lite version but only been using it for 2 days, i read somewhere that the app actually records a video and then give you the frames. Am planning on upgrading my phone so am not paying for the app. Anyways give it a try...let us know how was your exp. with the app...
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There's a camera app called Fast Burst Camera that you guys could try, there's a feature limited free version, and a pay version, i was looking forward to chad's zsl... but anyways, i like the results of the lite version but only been using it for 2 days, i read somewhere that the app actually records a video and then give you the frames. Am planning on upgrading my phone so am not paying for the app. Anyways give it a try...let us know how was your exp. with the app...
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yup, just tried it and it works... the pix is not as nice as the one taken from mwakious cam mod though..... hey wait,,, if this app can force our camera to shoot at that speed... then there is a great possibility smart devs can do something about this with the stock camera apps....???????????????????
also, it will force open the stock cam apps if you press the shutter for the continuos shots...
sairegsx said:
There's a camera app called Fast Burst Camera that you guys could try, there's a feature limited free version, and a pay version ... i read somewhere that the app actually records a video and then give you the frames.
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How is the quality? Since video tends to be recorded at a lower resolution that still pictures, I would think that would reduce quality by doing it this way.
I was just reading about the various aosp roms out, aswell as tw ones offcourse and i see a lot of comments stating how people miss the "TW camera".
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it just simply software here with tw having more features vs aosp being generic among all kinds of devices?
Does quality really suffer here due to that? Different processing?
Hardware is still the same so pictures should be damn close....
Not sure...
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I was just reading about the various aosp roms out, aswell as tw ones offcourse and i see a lot of comments stating how people miss the "TW camera".
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it just simply software here with tw having more features vs aosp being generic among all kinds of devices?
Does quality really suffer here due to that? Different processing?
Hardware is still the same so pictures should be damn close....
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I'm by no means an expert, but I'm currently running the latest CM nightly and it does seem to be a slightly lesser quality, but it could be just me. Pictures still look great, but I'm also missing some of the TW Camera's features. I love showing off the features of that camera, but I prefer running AOSP or AOKP to TW. Hopefully we can get a port of the app for AOSP, but I'm not sure if thats possible.
The latest version of hyperdrive ROM includes both camera's.
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The latest version of hyperdrive ROM includes both camera's.
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Any rom can. There is flashable zip
I'm going to check for the features of both as I've not used these much but through favorable posts here so why to remain bare handed with such an efficiency
I think the issue with the AOSP camera may be just the way the video is displayed. With the TW camera it looks phenomenally good, AOSP not so much, but the pictures themselves look similar. I only used AOSP a few times, but I felt better about the focusing on the TW camera, maybe because the video was so sharp you could really tell when you had the focus you wanted...which is kind of a big deal for quick snapshots of people.
I have been comparing photos taken using the tw camera and the camera that ships with carbon and I honestly think the carbon pictures look better.
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TW was way better than the current AOSP i am using x.x
There's a direct camera comparison of the Google Edition vs TW edition here.
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-edition-htc-one-and-samsung-galaxy-s4
yeah its software but the software helps enhance the image. thing is that the aosp camera lacks simple features that every OEM camera has... for example, iso control. it boggles my damn mind that aosp refuses to add iso control. that's something that I use daily.
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Coderedpl said:
Any rom can. There is flashable zip
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Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
fireattack7 said:
Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
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+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
Mitch8892 said:
+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
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+1 ^what he said
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fireattack7 said:
Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
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Mitch8892 said:
+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
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+1 ^what he said
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/27/download-new-stock-camera-app-from-google-play-edition-phones/
Used this on the touchwiz roms and worked fine. Haven't tried any aosp roms on the phone yet so can't comment on that.
Definitely a difference in quality. AOSP camera pictures tend to be slightly more grainy, at least from what I've noticed. I have both on Hyperdrive right now and, even after just playing with the AOSP camera, it's pretty clear that there is, at the very least, a slight difference.
Seems like a very noticeable difference to me. Stock TW with this phone was absolutely mind-blowing. Now I'm running Liquid and I love every single thing about it, but the camera is lacking. I don't mind not having the features, but the lower quality makes me consider switching back to TW.
I wonder if someone could figure out the camera enough to make the pictures be on par with tw
I just installed the google edition rom and haven't noticed any difference...then again I don't normally pay attention to that kind of stuff (unless the difference is glaring).
Is it the sharpness, light, dynamic range that doesn't compare?
Anyone try to flash the touchwiz camera on CM?
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I'm running PureGv3 and can honestly say I don't notice any stark difference in my photos. Granted, I haven't viewed them on an actual full screen, but I'm not a pixel connoisseur.
One thing I have noticed, however, is that my AOSP camera is just plain faster. I didn't need all the bells and whistles from TW. I just wanna take pictures. I HATED that "Processing..." screen I would occasionally get with my TW camera. I swore sometimes it took more than two full seconds to add a photo. Now it just zips right in there. I couldn't be happier.
Kind of a nub question regarding aosp camera v. TW - when one refers to the TW camera as being superior to aosp, is that because of the features offered or pic quality/software? In other words, does the software make a difference when you have the same processor, same lens, etc.?
kheltek said:
Kind of a nub question regarding aosp camera v. TW - when one refers to the TW camera as being superior to aosp, is that because of the features offered or pic quality/software? In other words, does the software make a difference when you have the same processor, same lens, etc.?
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It's mostly the features, but yes there is software processing that happens when you take a pic. For example when the HTC One came out it had overexposure issue, and they pushed out a firmware update to correct this. So basically since the TW camera app was written specifically for Galaxy devices it'll use the camera in a better way than AOSP which is designed to work with pretty much any camera.
The TW camera app has proprietary stuff that only works with touchwiz. Samsung paid good money for it, and will never give it out.
So, basic if you want the most out of the camera, you'll get it from TW because it can fully optimize it.
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