I was just reading about the various aosp roms out, aswell as tw ones offcourse and i see a lot of comments stating how people miss the "TW camera".
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it just simply software here with tw having more features vs aosp being generic among all kinds of devices?
Does quality really suffer here due to that? Different processing?
Hardware is still the same so pictures should be damn close....
Not sure...
Coderedpl said:
I was just reading about the various aosp roms out, aswell as tw ones offcourse and i see a lot of comments stating how people miss the "TW camera".
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it just simply software here with tw having more features vs aosp being generic among all kinds of devices?
Does quality really suffer here due to that? Different processing?
Hardware is still the same so pictures should be damn close....
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I'm by no means an expert, but I'm currently running the latest CM nightly and it does seem to be a slightly lesser quality, but it could be just me. Pictures still look great, but I'm also missing some of the TW Camera's features. I love showing off the features of that camera, but I prefer running AOSP or AOKP to TW. Hopefully we can get a port of the app for AOSP, but I'm not sure if thats possible.
The latest version of hyperdrive ROM includes both camera's.
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The latest version of hyperdrive ROM includes both camera's.
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Any rom can. There is flashable zip
I'm going to check for the features of both as I've not used these much but through favorable posts here so why to remain bare handed with such an efficiency
I think the issue with the AOSP camera may be just the way the video is displayed. With the TW camera it looks phenomenally good, AOSP not so much, but the pictures themselves look similar. I only used AOSP a few times, but I felt better about the focusing on the TW camera, maybe because the video was so sharp you could really tell when you had the focus you wanted...which is kind of a big deal for quick snapshots of people.
I have been comparing photos taken using the tw camera and the camera that ships with carbon and I honestly think the carbon pictures look better.
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TW was way better than the current AOSP i am using x.x
There's a direct camera comparison of the Google Edition vs TW edition here.
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-edition-htc-one-and-samsung-galaxy-s4
yeah its software but the software helps enhance the image. thing is that the aosp camera lacks simple features that every OEM camera has... for example, iso control. it boggles my damn mind that aosp refuses to add iso control. that's something that I use daily.
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Coderedpl said:
Any rom can. There is flashable zip
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Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
fireattack7 said:
Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
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+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
Mitch8892 said:
+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
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+1 ^what he said
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fireattack7 said:
Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
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+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
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+1 ^what he said
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/27/download-new-stock-camera-app-from-google-play-edition-phones/
Used this on the touchwiz roms and worked fine. Haven't tried any aosp roms on the phone yet so can't comment on that.
Definitely a difference in quality. AOSP camera pictures tend to be slightly more grainy, at least from what I've noticed. I have both on Hyperdrive right now and, even after just playing with the AOSP camera, it's pretty clear that there is, at the very least, a slight difference.
Seems like a very noticeable difference to me. Stock TW with this phone was absolutely mind-blowing. Now I'm running Liquid and I love every single thing about it, but the camera is lacking. I don't mind not having the features, but the lower quality makes me consider switching back to TW.
I wonder if someone could figure out the camera enough to make the pictures be on par with tw
I just installed the google edition rom and haven't noticed any difference...then again I don't normally pay attention to that kind of stuff (unless the difference is glaring).
Is it the sharpness, light, dynamic range that doesn't compare?
Anyone try to flash the touchwiz camera on CM?
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I'm running PureGv3 and can honestly say I don't notice any stark difference in my photos. Granted, I haven't viewed them on an actual full screen, but I'm not a pixel connoisseur.
One thing I have noticed, however, is that my AOSP camera is just plain faster. I didn't need all the bells and whistles from TW. I just wanna take pictures. I HATED that "Processing..." screen I would occasionally get with my TW camera. I swore sometimes it took more than two full seconds to add a photo. Now it just zips right in there. I couldn't be happier.
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So, I'm thinking about rooting and installing a custom rom on my European Samsung Galaxy S II. But I've had some previous experiences regarding custom roms on my HTC Desire, whereas the quality of the still pictures and video recordings shot with the camera was drastically decreased. Still pictures looked horrible, and it was not possible to record video in 720 due to a huge amount of lag and stutter. This was the case with the three roms I flashed the HTC Desire with.
I'm not really educated on this subject, so I hope you guys can give me some information.
Will installing a custom rom affect the quality of still pictures/video recordings?
If so, what is the reason for this?
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Will installing a custom rom affect the quality of still pictures/video recordings?
If so, what is the reason for this?
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That doesn't happen on samsung phones at all, must be an htc thing.
If you care that much about camera quality, stick with Touchwiz ROMs. Flashing CM7 or MIUI will decrease the picture and video quality as they use AOSP apps which are worse than Samsung ones.
If you install a custom Samsung rom you should be fine but if you install cm7 or miui I've noticed the quality ain't as high
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Okay, thanks. What is the reason for the decrease of quality?
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Okay, thanks. What is the reason for the decrease of quality?
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I've used both cm7 and miui and both cameras are noticeably poorer than stock. I may be wrong but may be due to drivers or something as they are aosp based roms. But don't go by my word on reasoning. The pictures look fine on the phone but once you view them on a bigger screen you see the differences in quality.
When I get time I want to test various camera apps and compare them to stock using same conditions, don't think we have a thread like that.
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Yeah, okay. I've been looking for threads like that, but I haven't found any. If you decide to go through with it, send me a PM with a link to the thread
So I have been tempted to flash CM10 for a long time but stock features like Multiwindow and Camera app by Samsung keep me from it.
So i wanted to ask if the quality if the pictures in CM10 was as good as stock S3 Camera app? And I saw there are bugs in cam such as touch 2 focus issues with enabled flashlight and recording effects broken. TV Out issue is also a con..
So is it worth using CM10? Why do you use it. I know some people love vanila android but other than that anything else?
Oh and which one do you prefer, 4.2 or 4.1, I assume both builds are stable enough for everyday use.
CM camera is worse
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CM camera is worse
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worse in what sense? app is bad or picture quality sucks?
both
Guess I wont be flashing CM10.. why do people use it?
because they like its features and the AOSP look as well as the lack of bloat
Yeap, the camera in CM10 and 10.1 is worse.
But I still use it because I like the stock Android look. Next time I'll just buy a Nexus..
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Yeap, the camera in CM10 and 10.1 is worse.
But I still use it because I like the stock Android look. Next time I'll just buy a Nexus..
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you can use domination theme for a complete stock look
First off I just need to know the difference of the 2 I've flashed roms for several years now but I've really ever had this ? Answered for me we all known touchwiz roms are much bigger than Aosp roms so is the space that's not being used by Aosp roms is it available to the user Like almost 600mb that's not being used by this rom ?
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Basically it doesnt have the touchwiz skin at all. Its plain android. It also means no s-pen support (its implemented now in the official nightlies however rudementary).
As far as the usuable space, thats a good question. It may not necessarily use it but I dont think its available to the user.
At one point AOSP was about speed and fluidity (albeit still that way) but with the power of this phone its pretty fluid on Touchwiz or AOSP.
For me its always boiled down to whether or not ill be using the pen. I dont use it often, I flash to AOSP and find myself missing features of touchwiz and flashing back. My best suggestion is to go through that exercise and make the decision for yourself.
Yeah beans 17 gives you just the look of Aosp but the Guts of Touchwiz it would be nice to have a Rom that had the mixture of the 2
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My concern is the camera app. Samsung does an awesome job with the camera software. I've always heard, and also confirmed this during my brief fling with the Galaxy Nexus. How are photos on the N2 using the AOSP software?
Beans is a good mixture and hes an awesome dev to boot. He listens to users and includes features they want to see.
The camera app in AOSP quite frankly is s**t. Its finicky, doesnt like low light conditions and is prone to force closing (no fault to the devs as they have been given zero information to build from, its incredible theyve even gotten it to where it is). I dont use my camera alot so I forgot about that.
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Basically it doesnt have the touchwiz skin at all. Its plain android. It also means no s-pen support (its implemented now in the official nightlies however rudementary).
As far as the usuable space, thats a good question. It may not necessarily use it but I dont think its available to the user.
At one point AOSP was about speed and fluidity (albeit still that way) but with the power of this phone its pretty fluid on Touchwiz or AOSP.
For me its always boiled down to whether or not ill be using the pen. I dont use it often, I flash to AOSP and find myself missing features of touchwiz and flashing back. My best suggestion is to go through that exercise and make the decision for yourself.
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While there is very little S-pen support in AOSP roms people can always get GMD Spen Control from the Play Store and that will give them a lot of the S-pen functionality back.
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AOSP: pure, straight, unmolested raw Google code. What goes on a Nexus.
TW: Samsung's proprietary skin/software that they build on top of stock android. Hence the size difference. Sense is HTC's version.
Littleguevara is spot on about the camera. That's why I stick with TW. And my battery, GPS and overall stability is better. Now if I had a Nexus 4....
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Ok so a couple of things.
I noticed any camera app on a TW rom has what I would describe as graining, I can see pixels constantly changing colour akin to watching a analolue tv signal. If I take photos this affects the photo also. It affects how clear the photo is, I have a photo of an object on my desk eg. that looks brilliant taken whilst was on AOKP. Will try to attach the photos to this post. On the camera on the AOKP rom, this graining is gone, its vanished. (shame the camera app is unstable). Taking a photo of the same object using any camera app on a TW rom has a much less satisfying result. It would seem whatever that driver is thats used on AOSP roms it does offer better quality. Or is it a setting that causes the graining?
Also a few times when usng the camera, it just closes itself, if I am right this is a rom problem? what would cause that behaviour usually? The closing itself only is happening since I switched back to neatrom, so may end up posting this 2nd question in the neatrom thread.
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I took a photo at lower res (as was too big) and then accidently seen all the graining was gone and picture clear again.
so it seems lowering the resolution of the photo does wonders.
so its related to higher pixel count and it appears, obviously one might say the lower resolution hides the problem, possibly. so eg. zooming on on a my 0.8mp 1024x768 picture so its same screen size as the 8mp pic has much higher detail.
I will if time restore my aokp nandroid and test 8pm photos again if I can.
I attached 2 pics, the usb_back is 8mp other is 0.9mp.
I've never seen what you refer to. Generally the tw camera is better quality because samsung didn't release their camera HAL source so its quality can't be reproduced
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I put AOKP back on for more testing, showed some freinds and they picked out all AOKP pics as clearly better, extra options in the app (jpeg quality and more focus options as well as special affects) and the quality is simply better full stop.
the TW cam got ported for AOSP anyway.
so just flash the TW cam and u got the same quality. (theme / addons section in this forum)
chrcol said:
the quality is simply better full stop.
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This is on your device. Maybe you have a problem with your camera when on touchwiz.
Notor1ouS- said:
the TW cam got ported for AOSP anyway.
so just flash the TW cam and u got the same quality. (theme / addons section in this forum)
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where is it? and i want aosp on tw not other way round the tw camera gui is aweful so even if quality fixed i wouldnt like using it.
i brought a professional camera app which a few on here reccomended, great improvement over tW interface but imo not as good as AOSP interface and it closes by itself a lot. It also doesnt fix the quality issue and when I run the app on AOSP the quality is fixed so the quality seems related to the samsung camera driver not app.
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This is on your device. Maybe you have a problem with your camera when on touchwiz.
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well I will try a diff TW rom, maybe even restore the rom that shipped with the phone to see if its a rom issue.
chrcol said:
well I will try a diff TW rom, maybe even restore the rom that shipped with the phone to see if its a rom issue.
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Could even be camera firmware/driver issue.
my opinion , both are same
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Could even be camera firmware/driver issue.
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since they part of the rom/kernel thats why I said I would try different rom.
I will also try a different kernel on same TW rom.
chrcol said:
since they part of the rom/kernel thats why I said I would try different rom.
I will also try a different kernel on same TW rom.
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No, im talking about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34456721
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I will try it next time I got back to TW, still back on AOKP.
Yep. Im happier with aosp roms too
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since I put siyah kernel on the AOKP rom the camera is stable. Might be coincidence but thats the situation at the moment.
well now nothing to fix on the quality.
on the latest 4.1.2 neatrom, the camera quality is good so was an issue with md4 build I guess.
Is there a difference in picture quality between the stock TW camera app and the stock GE camera app? I know there are different modes and varying features between the two, but I am more interested in the final picture quality result. I enjoy the GE experience, but don't want to sacrifice camera quality.
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Is there a difference in picture quality between the stock TW camera app and the stock GE camera app? I know there are different modes and varying features between the two, but I am more interested in the final picture quality result. I enjoy the GE experience, but don't want to sacrifice camera quality.
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You could install both and see for yourself. When you choose to add the TW camera it doesn't remove the ge one
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How is the Shutter speed on the GE. The stock shutter lag is atrocious.
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I too am interested in this. I believe I've read that the AOSP camera quality is quite inferior to TW but between TW and GE can anyone post screenshots?
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You could install both and see for yourself. When you choose to add the TW camera it doesn't remove the ge one
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I have tried and personally don't see much of a difference. I know you dig into these ROMs and apps and would have more knowledge as to the technical side of things.
I do know that the picture aspect ratio is different. TW pics are wider and narrower than the GE.
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I have tried and personally don't see much of a difference. I know you dig into these ROMs and apps and would have more knowledge as to the technical side of things.
I do know that the picture aspect ratio is different. TW pics are wider and narrower than the GE.
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Yeah, but the picture quality is not the technical side of things. That's an end user thing. I barely use the camera on my phone. :silly:
If the pics look weird on the GE version I'd go to settings and see what resolution it's set to:good:
To me there isnt much difference. When i first started running Dubs GE Rom i was adamant about having the TW camera but now i just use the AOSP one by default anyway, i like the UI more and photoshere is too cool.
But here, look for yourself.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/smartphones/22407/galaxy-s4-google-play-edition-vs-regular-gs4-camera