Is there a difference in picture quality between the stock TW camera app and the stock GE camera app? I know there are different modes and varying features between the two, but I am more interested in the final picture quality result. I enjoy the GE experience, but don't want to sacrifice camera quality.
bswides412 said:
Is there a difference in picture quality between the stock TW camera app and the stock GE camera app? I know there are different modes and varying features between the two, but I am more interested in the final picture quality result. I enjoy the GE experience, but don't want to sacrifice camera quality.
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You could install both and see for yourself. When you choose to add the TW camera it doesn't remove the ge one
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How is the Shutter speed on the GE. The stock shutter lag is atrocious.
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I too am interested in this. I believe I've read that the AOSP camera quality is quite inferior to TW but between TW and GE can anyone post screenshots?
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Dubbsy said:
You could install both and see for yourself. When you choose to add the TW camera it doesn't remove the ge one
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I have tried and personally don't see much of a difference. I know you dig into these ROMs and apps and would have more knowledge as to the technical side of things.
I do know that the picture aspect ratio is different. TW pics are wider and narrower than the GE.
bswides412 said:
I have tried and personally don't see much of a difference. I know you dig into these ROMs and apps and would have more knowledge as to the technical side of things.
I do know that the picture aspect ratio is different. TW pics are wider and narrower than the GE.
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Yeah, but the picture quality is not the technical side of things. That's an end user thing. I barely use the camera on my phone. :silly:
If the pics look weird on the GE version I'd go to settings and see what resolution it's set to:good:
To me there isnt much difference. When i first started running Dubs GE Rom i was adamant about having the TW camera but now i just use the AOSP one by default anyway, i like the UI more and photoshere is too cool.
But here, look for yourself.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/smartphones/22407/galaxy-s4-google-play-edition-vs-regular-gs4-camera
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I was just reading about the various aosp roms out, aswell as tw ones offcourse and i see a lot of comments stating how people miss the "TW camera".
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it just simply software here with tw having more features vs aosp being generic among all kinds of devices?
Does quality really suffer here due to that? Different processing?
Hardware is still the same so pictures should be damn close....
Not sure...
Coderedpl said:
I was just reading about the various aosp roms out, aswell as tw ones offcourse and i see a lot of comments stating how people miss the "TW camera".
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't it just simply software here with tw having more features vs aosp being generic among all kinds of devices?
Does quality really suffer here due to that? Different processing?
Hardware is still the same so pictures should be damn close....
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I'm by no means an expert, but I'm currently running the latest CM nightly and it does seem to be a slightly lesser quality, but it could be just me. Pictures still look great, but I'm also missing some of the TW Camera's features. I love showing off the features of that camera, but I prefer running AOSP or AOKP to TW. Hopefully we can get a port of the app for AOSP, but I'm not sure if thats possible.
The latest version of hyperdrive ROM includes both camera's.
aw091486 said:
The latest version of hyperdrive ROM includes both camera's.
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Any rom can. There is flashable zip
I'm going to check for the features of both as I've not used these much but through favorable posts here so why to remain bare handed with such an efficiency
I think the issue with the AOSP camera may be just the way the video is displayed. With the TW camera it looks phenomenally good, AOSP not so much, but the pictures themselves look similar. I only used AOSP a few times, but I felt better about the focusing on the TW camera, maybe because the video was so sharp you could really tell when you had the focus you wanted...which is kind of a big deal for quick snapshots of people.
I have been comparing photos taken using the tw camera and the camera that ships with carbon and I honestly think the carbon pictures look better.
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TW was way better than the current AOSP i am using x.x
There's a direct camera comparison of the Google Edition vs TW edition here.
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-play-edition-htc-one-and-samsung-galaxy-s4
yeah its software but the software helps enhance the image. thing is that the aosp camera lacks simple features that every OEM camera has... for example, iso control. it boggles my damn mind that aosp refuses to add iso control. that's something that I use daily.
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Coderedpl said:
Any rom can. There is flashable zip
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Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
fireattack7 said:
Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
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+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
Mitch8892 said:
+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
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+1 ^what he said
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fireattack7 said:
Do you have a link to the zip file? I'd like to try it on CM10.1 on my S4.
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Mitch8892 said:
+1 I can't seem to find the file anywhere. Thanks!
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codygs83 said:
+1 ^what he said
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/27/download-new-stock-camera-app-from-google-play-edition-phones/
Used this on the touchwiz roms and worked fine. Haven't tried any aosp roms on the phone yet so can't comment on that.
Definitely a difference in quality. AOSP camera pictures tend to be slightly more grainy, at least from what I've noticed. I have both on Hyperdrive right now and, even after just playing with the AOSP camera, it's pretty clear that there is, at the very least, a slight difference.
Seems like a very noticeable difference to me. Stock TW with this phone was absolutely mind-blowing. Now I'm running Liquid and I love every single thing about it, but the camera is lacking. I don't mind not having the features, but the lower quality makes me consider switching back to TW.
I wonder if someone could figure out the camera enough to make the pictures be on par with tw
I just installed the google edition rom and haven't noticed any difference...then again I don't normally pay attention to that kind of stuff (unless the difference is glaring).
Is it the sharpness, light, dynamic range that doesn't compare?
Anyone try to flash the touchwiz camera on CM?
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I'm running PureGv3 and can honestly say I don't notice any stark difference in my photos. Granted, I haven't viewed them on an actual full screen, but I'm not a pixel connoisseur.
One thing I have noticed, however, is that my AOSP camera is just plain faster. I didn't need all the bells and whistles from TW. I just wanna take pictures. I HATED that "Processing..." screen I would occasionally get with my TW camera. I swore sometimes it took more than two full seconds to add a photo. Now it just zips right in there. I couldn't be happier.
Ok so a couple of things.
I noticed any camera app on a TW rom has what I would describe as graining, I can see pixels constantly changing colour akin to watching a analolue tv signal. If I take photos this affects the photo also. It affects how clear the photo is, I have a photo of an object on my desk eg. that looks brilliant taken whilst was on AOKP. Will try to attach the photos to this post. On the camera on the AOKP rom, this graining is gone, its vanished. (shame the camera app is unstable). Taking a photo of the same object using any camera app on a TW rom has a much less satisfying result. It would seem whatever that driver is thats used on AOSP roms it does offer better quality. Or is it a setting that causes the graining?
Also a few times when usng the camera, it just closes itself, if I am right this is a rom problem? what would cause that behaviour usually? The closing itself only is happening since I switched back to neatrom, so may end up posting this 2nd question in the neatrom thread.
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I took a photo at lower res (as was too big) and then accidently seen all the graining was gone and picture clear again.
so it seems lowering the resolution of the photo does wonders.
so its related to higher pixel count and it appears, obviously one might say the lower resolution hides the problem, possibly. so eg. zooming on on a my 0.8mp 1024x768 picture so its same screen size as the 8mp pic has much higher detail.
I will if time restore my aokp nandroid and test 8pm photos again if I can.
I attached 2 pics, the usb_back is 8mp other is 0.9mp.
I've never seen what you refer to. Generally the tw camera is better quality because samsung didn't release their camera HAL source so its quality can't be reproduced
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I put AOKP back on for more testing, showed some freinds and they picked out all AOKP pics as clearly better, extra options in the app (jpeg quality and more focus options as well as special affects) and the quality is simply better full stop.
the TW cam got ported for AOSP anyway.
so just flash the TW cam and u got the same quality. (theme / addons section in this forum)
chrcol said:
the quality is simply better full stop.
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This is on your device. Maybe you have a problem with your camera when on touchwiz.
Notor1ouS- said:
the TW cam got ported for AOSP anyway.
so just flash the TW cam and u got the same quality. (theme / addons section in this forum)
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where is it? and i want aosp on tw not other way round the tw camera gui is aweful so even if quality fixed i wouldnt like using it.
i brought a professional camera app which a few on here reccomended, great improvement over tW interface but imo not as good as AOSP interface and it closes by itself a lot. It also doesnt fix the quality issue and when I run the app on AOSP the quality is fixed so the quality seems related to the samsung camera driver not app.
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This is on your device. Maybe you have a problem with your camera when on touchwiz.
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well I will try a diff TW rom, maybe even restore the rom that shipped with the phone to see if its a rom issue.
chrcol said:
well I will try a diff TW rom, maybe even restore the rom that shipped with the phone to see if its a rom issue.
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Could even be camera firmware/driver issue.
my opinion , both are same
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Could even be camera firmware/driver issue.
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since they part of the rom/kernel thats why I said I would try different rom.
I will also try a different kernel on same TW rom.
chrcol said:
since they part of the rom/kernel thats why I said I would try different rom.
I will also try a different kernel on same TW rom.
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No, im talking about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34456721
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I will try it next time I got back to TW, still back on AOKP.
Yep. Im happier with aosp roms too
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since I put siyah kernel on the AOKP rom the camera is stable. Might be coincidence but thats the situation at the moment.
well now nothing to fix on the quality.
on the latest 4.1.2 neatrom, the camera quality is good so was an issue with md4 build I guess.
Oh god the camera is bad, all I ask for is a decent camera that can snap pictures of words on maybe a whiteboard from a distance when I'm in a meeting and god does the image look horrible when I zoom is, there is no detail at all sort of like an over sharpening of a blur image. God even the nexus 4 has a much clearer image than this although that's plagued by its far I share of focusing bugs
beerope said:
Oh god the camera is bad, all I ask for is a decent camera that can snap pictures of words on maybe a whiteboard from a distance when I'm in a meeting and god does the image look horrible when I zoom is, there is no detail at all sort of like an over sharpening of a blur image. God even the nexus 4 has a much clearer image than this although that's plagued by its far I share of focusing bugs
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Hey mate. Don't despair. Just load a 3rd party camera app. I'm going between Camera Zoom FX and Camera FV-5 at the moment. I think FV-5 is going to be my choice.
There's not much wrong with the optics on the Ultra just too much native compression from Sony's own app.
So with a better app I'm seeing much better results.
beerope said:
Oh god the camera is bad, all I ask for is a decent camera that can snap pictures of words on maybe a whiteboard from a distance when I'm in a meeting and god does the image look horrible when I zoom is, there is no detail at all sort of like an over sharpening of a blur image. God even the nexus 4 has a much clearer image than this although that's plagued by its far I share of focusing bugs
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yeah @pfatty is on the money!
check out my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481316
You'll need to test others if you think there is something else better out there.
Good luck.
I am using focal and finding that quite decent
hamdogg said:
yeah @pfatty is on the money!
check out my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481316
You'll need to test others if you think there is something else better out there.
Good luck.
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pfatty said:
Hey mate. Don't despair. Just load a 3rd party camera app. I'm going between Camera Zoom FX and Camera FV-5 at the moment. I think FV-5 is going to be my choice.
There's not much wrong with the optics on the Ultra just too much native compression from Sony's own app.
So with a better app I'm seeing much better results.
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Trust me, ive tried. They look more or less the same, ive tried it all. The paid verions for fx, fv5, focal, motox camera, ics camera+ and hdr camera. They all look more or less the same, the details seems to be like a chalk painting when zoomed in. Even in the thread, the leaves edges seems to be like chalk smudge, i just need a fix that will let me take a goddamn picture of my office notes on a projected screen ahh
after root i threw in the gallery app from aosp and it included the camera app too. works fine. lets me to those photospheres too
beerope said:
Trust me, ive tried. They look more or less the same, ive tried it all. The paid verions for fx, fv5, focal, motox camera, ics camera+ and hdr camera. They all look more or less the same, the details seems to be like a chalk painting when zoomed in. Even in the thread, the leaves edges seems to be like chalk smudge, i just need a fix that will let me take a goddamn picture of my office notes on a projected screen ahh
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Hi Beerope.
I'm with you on this.
I get the feeling that camera apps on google market still use the same sony provided codecs for compression when using a stock rom.
Sony ZU codecs and camera force a file size of under 2mb which is why the definition when zoomed in is so crap...
I have a theory that if you use a rom like CM10.x or AOSP that the picture quality will be greatly improved when using third party camera apps or even the native camera apps as those roms are using the standard android codecs.
This will also be evident in the file sizes generated by those camera apps.
Unfortunately I cant test as I need my phone for work purposes (so it remains on stock) at the moment and haven't got time to experiment with custom roms yet.
I'm currently on 510 and refuse to got to 526 or 532 due to the weird SODs I keep reading about.
My previous ZU had 526 and had so many problems with random screen clicking.
My current ZU is on 510 and I've had no problems at all - rock solid no random clicking but obviously the picture quality from the camera sucks...
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Also we may be able to improve the quality by using methods similar to those described in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030603
Obviously we'd need to identify the relevant files first.
qazzi76 said:
Hi Beerope.
I'm with you on this.
I get the feeling that camera apps on google market still use the same sony provided codecs for compression when using a stock rom.
Sony ZU codecs and camera force a file size of under 2mb which is why the definition when zoomed in is so crap...
I have a theory that if you use a rom like CM10.x or AOSP that the picture quality will be greatly improved when using third party camera apps or even the native camera apps as those roms are using the standard android codecs.
This will also be evident in the file sizes generated by those camera apps.
Unfortunately I cant test as I need my phone for work purposes (so it remains on stock) at the moment and haven't got time to experiment with custom roms yet.
I'm currently on 510 and refuse to got to 526 or 532 due to the weird SODs I keep reading about.
My previous ZU had 526 and had so many problems with random screen clicking.
My current ZU is on 510 and I've had no problems at all - rock solid no random clicking but obviously the picture quality from the camera sucks...
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Also we may be able to improve the quality by using methods similar to those described in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030603
Obviously we'd need to identify the relevant files first.
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CM10.2 (flavours) are a little better. The file size is an issue as image artifacts are greatly reduced. It is a problem Sony needs to sort out. 3rd part apps can only improve so much. its up to firmware.
beerope said:
Oh god the camera is bad, all I ask for is a decent camera that can snap pictures of words on maybe a whiteboard from a distance when I'm in a meeting and god does the image look horrible when I zoom is, there is no detail at all sort of like an over sharpening of a blur image. God even the nexus 4 has a much clearer image than this although that's plagued by its far I share of focusing bugs
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Hi,
Would you load some sample shots? I'd like to buy this device, but it seems like the camera isn't very good.
Thanks!
ntdatter said:
Hi,
Would you load some sample shots? I'd like to buy this device, but it seems like the camera isn't very good.
Thanks!
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Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481316
pfatty said:
Hey mate. Don't despair. Just load a 3rd party camera app. I'm going between Camera Zoom FX and Camera FV-5 at the moment. I think FV-5 is going to be my choice.
There's not much wrong with the optics on the Ultra just too much native compression from Sony's own app.
So with a better app I'm seeing much better results.
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I just purchased Fv-5 but I didn't support video
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Kind of a nub question regarding aosp camera v. TW - when one refers to the TW camera as being superior to aosp, is that because of the features offered or pic quality/software? In other words, does the software make a difference when you have the same processor, same lens, etc.?
kheltek said:
Kind of a nub question regarding aosp camera v. TW - when one refers to the TW camera as being superior to aosp, is that because of the features offered or pic quality/software? In other words, does the software make a difference when you have the same processor, same lens, etc.?
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It's mostly the features, but yes there is software processing that happens when you take a pic. For example when the HTC One came out it had overexposure issue, and they pushed out a firmware update to correct this. So basically since the TW camera app was written specifically for Galaxy devices it'll use the camera in a better way than AOSP which is designed to work with pretty much any camera.
The TW camera app has proprietary stuff that only works with touchwiz. Samsung paid good money for it, and will never give it out.
So, basic if you want the most out of the camera, you'll get it from TW because it can fully optimize it.
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I switched from a Samsung rom to an Aosp rom a week or so ago, and while I'm loving most things about it, I really find the default Android camera lacking compared to the Samsung one. The Samsung camera has better focusing, much, much easier to navigate menus, takes better night shots, has stabilization, and seems to consistently take better pictures. Is there any way to get it to work on aosp? I remember there being a way to do it on the s3. If not, what camera apps do you guys use?
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I switched from a Samsung rom to an Aosp rom a week or so ago, and while I'm loving most things about it, I really find the default Android camera lacking compared to the Samsung one. The Samsung camera has better focusing, much, much easier to navigate menus, takes better night shots, has stabilization, and seems to consistently take better pictures. Is there any way to get it to work on aosp? I remember there being a way to do it on the s3. If not, what camera apps do you guys use?
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Unfortunately you will be unable to use the samsung camera app on aosp. I purchased camera zoom fx and use that. I also have heard people recommending snap hd camera but I haven't personally tried it. The picture quality doesn't seem to be as good on aosp as touchwiz. It's a trade off of running aosp but worth it imo.
brendanvista said:
I switched from a Samsung rom to an Aosp rom a week or so ago, and while I'm loving most things about it, I really find the default Android camera lacking compared to the Samsung one. The Samsung camera has better focusing, much, much easier to navigate menus, takes better night shots, has stabilization, and seems to consistently take better pictures. Is there any way to get it to work on aosp? I remember there being a way to do it on the s3. If not, what camera apps do you guys use?
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i reccommend the motorola one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387369
i also like the Camera Zoom app. But the motox one is best.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll give your ideas a try. I've used HDR camera before with good results, but I'd like an all around good app. I think I'll try the moto one first. EDIT: I tried the moto one. I love the interface, but there are no settings for anything such as video or picture quality, or storage location.