Have a retired HTC Thunderbolt (S_OFF, Rooted, Liquid smooth ICE Rom) I upgraded to a HTC DNA a week ago. I would like to use the thunderbolt with GPS and Wifi to play Ingress on. The Issue how ever is that after the phone lost its cellular service I cannot get a GPS lock left it on for 4 hours using GPS toolbox waiting for a lock that never happened anyone got any ideas on how to get the GPS to lock with out the aGPS cell service?
I haven't experienced this problem specifically since mine is still in service, but I'm sure someone else more informed will know. I would check and make sure all of the contacts on the back of the case are clean and flush with the phone. Yesterday I had a similar problem and it was because I hadn't snapped the case all the way back on.
In the next few days I should be making a new CM9 build with a kernel that does not have a working radio, but does fix other issues. I'm thinking it will be useful for those in your situation who like AOSP, but don't have a need for the radio any longer. I'll try to remember to let you know when that happens.
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I haven't experienced this problem specifically since mine is still in service, but I'm sure someone else more informed will know. I would check and make sure all of the contacts on the back of the case are clean and flush with the phone. Yesterday I had a similar problem and it was because I hadn't snapped the case all the way back on.
In the next few days I should be making a new CM9 build with a kernel that does not have a working radio, but does fix other issues. I'm thinking it will be useful for those in your situation who like AOSP, but don't have a need for the radio any longer. I'll try to remember to let you know when that happens.
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Cool I will be looking for it I was thinking about trying a radioless build or regressing the radio RUU to a incomatible with the rom I am using to see if that would work but I didn't know if the GPS chip was on the same chip as the radio.
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Cool I will be looking for it I was thinking about trying a radioless build or regressing the radio RUU to a incomatible with the rom I am using to see if that would work but I didn't know if the GPS chip was on the same chip as the radio.
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I just built a fresh CM9 with the non-working radio and tested it. The GPS works without cell service and I was able to get 10 satellites according to GPS Status. The build worked fine as long as I had it installed, but I can't guarantee anything long-term. Worst case you can try the normal CM9 build since the GPS is the same on both of them.
Will ask the obvious did you go under GPS settings and make sure the standalone GPS was checked? If it is then I would say the issue is with that ROM. It sounds like only the verizon gps option is checked as thay uses cell tower triangulation to get a location fix. I never had an issue using GPS on a deactivated phone.
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You must have something screwed up, GPS and cellular service have nothing to do with each other. Might want to consider flashing a new rom or something just so you are guaranteed to be using one that fully works with gps 100%
Try to pry up on the little golden tabs under your battery cover. Those are the antenna for the GPS and if they don't make good contact to the battery cover then you won't get a GPS lock. Be very very careful not to break the little tabs.
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Sweet! I had the same problem and adjusting the contacts fixed it.
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Sounds like the aosp glitch of a 50/50 chance of having GPS to work. Try flashing a sense ROM then if you get a lock. Flash your aosp ROM and should work.
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So I've done a lot of searching and haven't really found anything definitive. I've found that with some roms I'll lose GPS signal after a certain amount of time (say 10-30 minutes) and have to turn GPS off and back on or reboot the phone. I saw something about flashing a different radio may make a difference. Kinda just wanted to see other peoples thoughts on the issue or if maybe there is something else I can do before I go flashing a different radio.
Currently running CELB 4.1 and baseband 2.42.01.04.27 and I have the issue.. I've had it with most of Tazz's roms as well. KaosFroyo is the only one Ive used that I've never seen the issue with, but I'm really diggin CELB right now and this is the ONLY issue I've got with it.
Have you tried GPS status in the market? I know it will help you lock in a signal, so it would make sense that it would also help keep your GPS locked in.
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Have you tried GPS status in the market? I know it will help you lock in a signal, so it would make sense that it would also help keep your GPS locked in.
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I have now.. I did the reset and download options in the program. Too bad this isn't something I can quickly test. I'll report back with the results. Thanks!
I have noticed this as well. Last time it happened to me it was 4:30 in the morning, and the "GPS lost" message came up about 180 seconds before I had to make two freeway changes in an area I'd never been before. (CELB 3.9 and same radio as your case). Fortunately for me I had reviewed the route, so I more or less knew what to do.
If I recall correctly, it has always happened after the Nav app had been running for a fair bit of time - at least 30 minutes or more.
However, I don't know if it is something about the root ROMs or not - I started using rooted ROMs back in March or so, so I really don't have a tremendous operating baseline on stock 2.1 ROMs to compare it to. Maybe it is a problem there, too!
If I recall correctly, the last time it happened, I just pulled up GPS Status and asked it reload the aGPS state (without exiting the Nav app), and the Nav app seemed to gracefully recover.
Annoying? Yeah. I don't know what can be done about it, though - like the "undead calls" problem, it happens so infrequently that it is hard to know whether or not a ROM change actually fixes the problem.
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I had the same problem with every 2.2 rom I used GPS with. I decided to go back to 2.1 because I have been needing GPS alot more often lately but I havent tested it out since I made the switch. I'll try it out today and report the results tonight.
This same thing seemed to happen on the 2.1, CyanogenMod 5 based ELB by Conap as well. If it is happening with all of the 2.2 ROMs, I wonder if it's just a CyanogenMod issue?
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6812308#post6812308 (this was not the only person reporting it, if you search that thread.)
I really don't think it's ALL 2.2 CM roms though. I've gone on 7 hour car trips with Kaos Froyo without a single drop.. to and from. I've seen another theory somewhere around here about it being certain hardware revisions that act this way with certain software builds. At lease we've got a thread dedicated to this issue now.. maybe we can get something figured out.
Still don't know if the GPS status program helps.. I left navigation turned on for a bit sitting in my house and it stayed connected for the half an hour I left it, just don't think that's gonna be an accurate test with not moving around and all. If it doesn't work I will try a different radio.. I saw somewhere one guy had good luck with a specific older version radio. If that's what it comes down to I'll try.
I have been having issues with the GPS working on both of my phones while using 2.2 roms. I switched to 2.1 a few days ago and I used the GPS on my way to work this morning and didnt have any issues. I also had to flash Senseable a couple of months ago while on a road trip because I was tired of loosing the GPS signal every half hour. It may be a CM thing.
Im having the same issues as well. Haven't found a fix yet..
I've had this issue, after I flashed KaosFroyo(v36), and XTR(4 i think). I recently unrooted using Flashback21 v1 and flashed with the radio included. I have gone back to xtr 5 now and have had no lost gps in over a week. Don't have a clue as to why. hope it helps someone.
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I've had this issue, after I flashed KaosFroyo(v36), and XTR(4 i think). I recently unrooted using Flashback21 v1 and flashed with the radio included. I have gone back to xtr 5 now and have had no lost gps in over a week. Don't have a clue as to why. hope it helps someone.
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give us another update. is the gps problem still fixed for you? Thanks!
I have flashed the radio directly with the verizon zip file that is around and I still get inconsistent results But it always drops a signal eventually in about a 1/2 hour
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I have flashed the radio directly with the verizon zip file that is around and I still get inconsistent results But it always drops a signal eventually in about a 1/2 hour
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I've seen it on several ROM's as well. From what i've messed with, it doesn't seem to be dependent on the autokiller memory preset, radio firmware, or amount of overclocking i'm doing. It doesn't seem to be dependent on how many programs are running either. I usually have nav and pandora running while i'm in the car, and sooner or later, the gps poops out.
I feel like it seems to happen less, now that i'm back to using the on-demand governor. but that could just be in my head.
I've had to go back to a 2.1 rom because of it. Its very annoying when the goa signal gets lost right before the exit ramp.
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Im thinking of going back to a 2.1 rom as well...
I have also seen the same results on any 2.2 or higher rom. I have since returned to XTRRom 5.0 and have not had a single problem with GPS on any of my jogging runs. I definitely think it is a CM thing. At least on my phone.
Using kaosfroyo v39 and I flashed that sprint phone radio on my eris and haven't had any gps issues. In fact, just the opposite. Mine would lock up before the v39 and the radio flash
I flashed that radio as well and today not one issue at all. Will test more tomorrow
I'm using the 2.42.02.10.29 sprint radio and still seeing it drop out.
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I'm using the 2.42.02.10.29 sprint radio and still seeing it drop out.
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Today I even flashed back to the July 2010 version (2.42.01.04.27). the gps dropped out almost every 5 minutes while i was driving around. that's the worst i've seen. So i flashed back to the 2.42.02.10.29 sprint radio again. I haven't seen very good navigation performance on the v1.1 gingershedbread overall, actually. my position on the gps nav doesn't update very often, although it seemed like the voice instructions were still pretty well timed as usual.
Hey guys, I'm what you would call somewhat of a novice user. My GPS when using the actual satellites doesn't work anymore. It can only use the cell tower triangulation method which is useless for the turn by turn navigation app. It worked fine until I followed this guide to flash custom roms, unlock the bootloader etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=113626
After I did that, the battery life was very poor so I installed edgan's kernel from the same page. The phone, rom, battery etc worked great except the GPS. Any ideas how I can fix this? I'm on Bell Canada if that makes a difference. Any more info let me know! Thanks.
edgan's kernel ? its old ...
Try testing the GPS with softwares like: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.chartcross.gpstest and https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
I recommend you unlock your bootloader, install recovery with ROM Manager, install good rom such as CM7 or Aura or DarkSide or HomaBase, install the latest radio and good kernel if you want.
Links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261 (unlocking bootloader)
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager (recovery)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=997 (ROMS section)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009 (Bell gingerbread radio)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040 (updated kernel)
Ok I have Rom manager and my bootloader is already unlocked. I'm gonna try installing that kernel you gave me there, see if that fixes the GPS issue. I don't understand what a radio does, should I install that one too? I'm honestly fine with this rom I and how it looks but I just really want the GPS fixed cause I use it a lot.
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Ok the new kernel didn't help so maybe I'll try the radio. I'm not gonna bother unless someone thinks this will help because I've read elsewhere that it's a risky procedure.
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Actually seems to be working now just took awhile to lock on. Thanks for the kernel!
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I suppose this is somewhat of an update. Kernel seems good, good battery life. The GPS works now but takes an eternity to lock on. Can someone suggest a fix? Would a new rom, radio etc fix that? I hate to be such a bother but I use the GPS daily for jogging and turn by turn navigation. I'm inexperienced and don't want to cause further problems so I'll wait this time before I do anything. Thanks again.
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Try this guide for fixing GPS problems : https://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/wiki/FAQ
Other than that, i think you should full wipe everything (data,cache,dalvik-from recovery), install a new rom, install new radio, install the faux123 kernel.
I did all this yesterday and my gps now works great and locks in a few seconds .
There seems to be some kind of inconsistent GPS issue with the Atrix. On my Atrix (US-ATT) sometimes, but not always the GPS will not get a "fix". This seems to only happen occasionly however. It seems to work better if the first use of the day is when the phone has cell tower service.
Perhaps there is a related GPS issue. The Atrix only registers an "accuracy" value of zero.
This has been noted in the following link:http://community.developer.motorola...o-Location-Accuracy-on-Gingerbread/td-p/17116
Ok well I've tried a new kernel, used GPS status to calibrate compass and installed a new radio and nothing has worked. I'm assuming I need a new rom then. Can anyone suggest a good rom? I saw the CyanogenMod 7 thread but it says the fingerprint scanner won't work. I use that all the time so I would prefer not to sacrifice it if there are other good roms out there. I'm hoping for some suggestions and then I'll get on that to see if it fixes my GPS issue. Thanks guys.
Search here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=997
Look at their features, read the comments and pick the one the look good to you.
If I am having trouble with my GPS I will...
turn the phone off
take out the battery
then put it back in.
Most of the time the GPS will then work.
i've never had the gps not work completely on the atrix. i've noticed that with certain roms and radios will take longer to get a signal and less reliable once locked. not sure if this will fix your gps problem but try flashing homebase its one of the best roms out there and gps works great for me, i get a signal lock in my house. it also doesnt loose any features like CM7 with webtop and fingerprint. it will install the latest kernal(faux), rom(2.3.4), and radio(1.77.30). its very easy to flash just use CWM or rom manager. theres a few versions of homebase, try the blue chronic and update using blue chronic 6.2. remember to clear cache before you flash and run the finalizer after the update.
Thank you for the recommendation. I didn't see this before I installed the alien rom and I must say I love the look. The GPS works great now too. Everything is in working order and worked fine for about 3 days and then today my battery wouldn't charge past 65%. I'm in the process of killing it to 0 and then charging it back up too see if that will fix it. Anyone else heard of this?
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Thank you for the recommendation. I didn't see this before I installed the alien rom and I must say I love the look. The GPS works great now too. Everything is in working order and worked fine for about 3 days and then today my battery wouldn't charge past 65%. I'm in the process of killing it to 0 and then charging it back up too see if that will fix it. Anyone else heard of this?
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The battery thing happened to me yesterday on stock GB. I think Diviance mentioned that he's seen this a few times on Aura, as well as some other ROMs. I just kept using it as normal, and I think after my 3rd charge it went back to 100. (I had just re-calibrated my battery so I was too lazy to do it again.)
You can try discharging as you mentioned, but other than that I haven't seen a sure fire fix for this. It seems to pop up over and over, across different ROMs.
Oh as long as it fixes itself eventually, no worries. Thanks alot for the info!
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Anyone have GPS totally die on this phone? This is not another "my GPS is slow" thread. It appears to be broken. GPS has been awesome throughout 8 months of a thousand flashes. Flashed MIUI a couple days ago and it was 5+ minutes to get a lock. Tried Pool Party, never got lock. Tried VGB, same. Flashed back to ED05 stock, Never got a lock after 30+ minutes sitting on my car dash. Put TSM back up, same. I have tried multiple kernals, tried GPS aids (for the first time ever). GPS is gone. I follow all directions for all ROMs and never have major problems. I'm stumped.
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I have tried the "secret menu" but it force closes when I enter the GPS config number. Could the hardware itself be fried?
Just out of curiosity, what gps aids have you tried? I just used "fasterfix" for the first time today and that drastically improved my lock time. Also GPS status and calibrate your compas may help. Just some suggestions... I hope either one helps!
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I have tried GPS status, even paid for a GPS Doctor repair app. None of them can do anything. Gps status had zero satellites after 2 hours in my car dock. I flashed back to ED05 and tried the Verizon "techs" at my local store. It's sad when I knew more about my phone than they did. In other words, zero help there. Was hoping to wait until spring, but it looks like a Nexus is in my future.
Did you try faster fix? Maybe it will help you get by for the next 6 days? With the way your talking though, it sounds like a hardware issue.
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I have tried GPS status, even paid for a GPS Doctor repair app. None of them can do anything. Gps status had zero satellites after 2 hours in my car dock. I flashed back to ED05 and tried the Verizon "techs" at my local store. It's sad when I knew more about my phone than they did. In other words, zero help there. Was hoping to wait until spring, but it looks like a Nexus is in my future.
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How is your data acting? Is it kinda flaky as well? Maybe you could try logging on vzw website and swapping esn numbers to refresh your data. After several flashes, sometimes I notice data/gps/anything network related will get flaky or slew down dramatically and an esn swap fixes me up. Hope you get back up.
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ESN swap, hadn't thought of that. I'll report back, thanks
ESN swap didn't work. Today I went back to eclair and ota'd back to ED05, still no go. It's dead Thanks for the idea though.
Update : GPS is back. Used the RFS formatting utility from the Heinz Dev section on rootz. Installed a froyo based rom, gps is back working.
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... the Verizon "techs" at my local store. It's sad when I knew more about my phone than they did. In other words, zero help .
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Well, yeah. Those "techs" at the stores are just salespeople. Call Verizon for actual tech support.
Fascinate. Tapatalk. 'nuff said?
I recently started using my wifes old fascinate after I broke the screen on my Droid Razr. I had rooted it for her in the past and was running AOKP ICS. The phone was performing well but gps tracking seemed to be seriously lacking. So messing around with it I noticed it was running the ED05 radio. I figured i'd upate to EC09 and see if that would improve anything. I used to Odin to flash EC09 rebooted phone and I had nothing 0/0 fix/sats in GPS status. I toggled it on and off and tried resetting GPS data and let it sit for a long time and got no lock.
So I said what the heck I wanted to update to Jellybean so lets flash a new rom and see if the clean install helps. So I flashed hellybean from recovery and the rom runs great but still no GPS. So i'm thinking okay..weird...let's try another radio. Tried flashing EH03 and same issue. So figured i'd flash back to ED05 and hopefully that would do the trick. Well now I'm back on ED05 and the phones been sitting for 10 minutes running GPS status and still hasn't found a single sattelite.
Any ideas of something to try? I use GPS for tracking a lot and really want to get this thing working. I am out of ideas.
Maybe you should try the app GPS Test by Chartcross. Install it, go to settings, and hit Clear AGPS.
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Thanks for the feedback. I eventually got it to work and felt like an idiot. The trick? Walk outside...
I did a full factory reset and reflashed hellybean tried some more radios and was about ready to throw the phone at the wall when I said what the heck lets just go outside and see what happens. Walk outside and was locked within 10 seconds.
For some reason the fascinate GPS will just not work sitting on my desk at work. My razr had no issues here so I guess that's why I was expecting it to at least find something. I guess this GPS receiver is just weak.
The wavelength GPS is on has the property of not being able to go through buildings. While this phone's GPS is pretty rotten in this case it's not really Samsung's fault.
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The wavelength GPS is on has the property of not being able to go through buildings. While this phone's GPS is pretty rotten in this case it's not really Samsung's fault.
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I kinda like the GPS on the phones they've never let me down lol
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I want a device that "just works". But I also want a relatively current version of Android (4.1+).
I don't like spending more time trying to get my device to work than actually using the device.
I've been getting rid of my older devices, and I'm probably getting rid of my Galaxy S 4G next. There has never been an official CyanogenMod release for it, and the current software doesn't work with the GPS.
I noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant had official CM and AOKP releases. Great! I can install a stable release and be done with it... But then I started reading about the GPS issues. From what I've read:
GPS doesn't work right. There are patches you can try, but then they break 911.
Is that the current situation? I have to pick between GPS or 911 if I want to use a Jelly Bean ROM on the Vibrant?
From what Iv heard the 911 issue is compleatly fixed. And GPS on this phone is complete and total s*it
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OK, I've been playing with the Vibrant/SGH-T959 on CM 10.1.2 for a few days.
GPS will usually see 10-13 satellites and get a lock within a few seconds. Accuracy has been as good as 20 feet. (I've only been testing this indoors.)
...If it works.
Twice now it seemed like GPS just "died". I had to reboot to get it working again. I see on the CM bug tracker (http://code.google.com/p/vibrant-cm/issues/list) that GPS can randomly crash.
^Try the gps hardware fix, my gps was absolutely awful before but now it works great. There is a tutorial in the Bible thread showing how to do it. You basically bend the copper conductor up slightly to help it make contact. Samsung really messed up the design or rushed it , simply bending the copper up fixes the issue.
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^Try the gps hardware fix, my gps was absolutely awful before but now it works great. There is a tutorial in the Bible thread showing how to do it. You basically bend the copper conductor up slightly to help it make contact. Samsung really messed up the design or rushed it , simply bending the copper up fixes the issue.
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My T959 has a "10.10" date on it, which should be new enough to have whatever improvement Samsung implemented (mentioned in the hardware fix thread).
I'm not too concerned with the the reception. When it works, it can get a lock from a fresh reboot in under 2 minutes. The signal ain't so bad. I don't expect to use this for navigation.
The problem is when GPS "dies". I don't know if it happens after deep sleep, or what. I'd rather it work all the time, even with a bad signal, than sometimes work well, and sometimes not work at all.
Edit, here's a description of what it does:
http://code.google.com/p/vibrant-cm/issues/detail?id=5
That's from August 2012. It still does this, even with the latest CM10 August 2013 builds.
Yea I personally use a Froyo ROM and jilette's gps fix, which has everything working. I also have issues with gps on Jelly bean ROMs. It's give and take really, that's why I prefer Froyo, it has everything I need.
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