WTF: Wife's Evo LTE Crashes Router, Mine Does not. - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

This is a new one on me and I'm pretty familiar with networking.
I recently bought a new Asus RT-N66U and took my network down the other day to put it in place of my previous router. I was having some weird issue and one of which was quite interesting indeed. Whenever I attempted to connect my wife's Evo LTE to the router the router would crash. Took me a while to figure out what was going on but once I did I was able to get it to do it every single time. I was having a few random issues with this router and it wouldn't take a firmware update so I determined that the router itself was DOA and was going to RMA it for a new device. So, I went back to my previous router. For the record it's a Linksys/Cisco E3000 flashed with TomatoUSB that has functioned flawlessly for years now. The only thing these two routers share is probably the Broadcom chipset and I think that's about it as the N66U is a much better device from about every perspective. I got everything set up again and was relaxing in bed watching the Heat game tonight (Go Heat!) and my wife asked if her phone was on WiFi which reminded me that I forgot to connect her Evo again. My 2.4GHz side is pretty congested with smart TVs, security cameras and all sorts of antiquated devices so I wanted to put her phone on the 5GHz side of the old router as I was pretty sure that it had been on the 2.4GHz side the previous time w/o issue. The moment I enter the key and hit connect the router crashes and I lose the game (networked tuners) and had to pause to think if I actually put the old router back in place or not. So, it appears as though this problem occurs on BOTH routers and only with this one Evo LTE so I've narrowed it down to her device. Both her's as well as mine are running the same everything pretty much so I'm not sure what is causing the problem but it doesn't appear to be end-user adjustable. I've never experienced this personally with a wireless client but have heard of rumors of it happening. Most times crappy network gear is blamed but in this case these are two very solidly performing devices and I also have another copy of the client that is functioning on 5Ghz fine.
So, what say you? Any ideas on what the fix is for this other than not using the 5GHz band? Until I finish my PoE switch and running network cable to all my security cameras my 2.4GHz side is pretty maxed so I'd rather not use that even if it does work. Surely there's something I'm missing here that I can correct to resolve this issue.

Anyone seen this one? I'm thinking it could have something to do with the WPA2+AES handshake because I don't think I was running that encryption on the previous router and her phone connected fine. But, again, my Evo LTE is running that same encryption on this router and no problems at all. It appears to be a device specific problem but I'm not aware of any way to get to advanced WiFi settings or reset this piece of the phone w/o doing a factory reset or ??

There have been some threads on similar experiences. Try updating firmware and or trying consistency with authentication methods. From the past issues, nothing specifically to do with networking just compatability with different platforms. I use the Netgear N700 series with multiple platforms and never had any issues as of yet. Good luck.
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waterbound said:
There have been some threads on similar experiences. Try updating firmware and or trying consistency with authentication methods. From the past issues, nothing specifically to do with networking just compatability with different platforms. I use the Netgear N700 series with multiple platforms and never had any issues as of yet. Good luck.
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The symptoms occurred with the shipped firmware on the router ending in .260 and it also occurred after I updated to the newer .270 firmware. I also attempted to update PRL and Profile of Evo LTE and the behavior still occurred. I would also like to point out that there was no firmware change on the previous router and it didn't occur before changing to WPA2+AES and did occur after with that one device (the other Evo LTE we have displayed none of these symptoms under any conditions nor have any of the dozens of other wireless clients present) so I'm leaning towards the encryption type but it's odd that it's only being caused by a single client on the network. Also, no amount of firmware updates or changes have affected the behavior. All of this was ruled out before ever creating this thread.

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Did any one fix Hero WiFi Problem...

Hi everyone...
I want to ask if anyone managed to fix the Hero WiFi problem... If you haven't see all these threads in forums around the world about the same problem that we have on Hero, and the problem is that the Hero connects to the WiFi without any problems and starts working normally, but after few minutes it looks that its is connected, the WiFi indicator shows that the network is Excellent or good but when I try to open new pages, the browser says that the network has dropped or no access to the AP... I think this problem is well known here... so I was wondering if any one has managed to fix the problem, or is there any program, or update from HTC that I missed to fix this problem...
Thanks in advance for every one..
Hamo
I had the same issue with a linksys router, before I upgraded to the newest radio. Have you tried that?
kiratha said:
I had the same issue with a linksys router, before I upgraded to the newest radio. Have you tried that?
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really I have tried everything that I have found in last 4 month on the internet, but noting... same problem!!!
and i see there is a lot of people that have the same problem. think that HTC have not fix this yet...
thanks for quick replay..
Hamo
This appears to be linked to what router you are using. I have 3 different routers. 2 work fine 1 doesn't. The one that does not work is the newer most expensive Belkin MIMO router.
Some say that you should disable 11n and just use b and g, others say manually select channel. Not sure if either reliably works. Best way is to change the router. The one I am using at the moment is 7 years old, so you do not need hi-tech.
It's definitely not an N issue. I have 3 routers and have this problem with all of them. One is a WAP-11 running D-Link firmware, one is a WRT-54G running the most recent Tomato, and the other is one their early b/g routers running stock firmware. I've also tried the obvious tweaks with no improvement (different channels, different security settings, etc...). Also have the problem on both of our Heros. My wife's is still stock, mine is running the damagecontrol ROM (had the problem when it was stock, too).
I actually just got out of bed and sat down at my computer to research this exact issue. My wife and I both need data service for our jobs, and 3G coverage is lousy at our house no matter which carrier, so it's absolutely crucial that WiFi work well.
I've read bits and pieces on this forum and others that makes it sound like flashing a radio update could fix the problem. Is this accurate? It also sounds like people are having issues with bricking their phones after a radio update. Any truth there?
Google searches on the subject bring up mountains of irrelevant results to sift through, if anybody could save me a little time and point me in the right direction I'd be very, very appreciative.
(As someone who's worked in IT for over 20 years, I understand that there are always bugs and compatibility issues with technology. However, given that Linksys is the most popular brand of home router out there, I think it is inexcusable that the phone shipped with this issue. That Sprint and HTC have allowed it to go unremedied for this long is downright appalling. "Buy a new router" is NOT a solution that they should be able to get away with.)
Your problems may not be the same as the ones referred to by the OP. What are the symptoms? Can you connect at all to the routers?
The symptoms of the common problem that I was referring to is that you appear to be connected to the router but whenever you try to use the connection you get a connection error message despite your wireless settings appearing to show you are connected to the router. Are those your symptoms?
As I said I have two routers that work fine, one of which is an old D-Link DI524, the other being a newer Netgear WGR614. Both of those only have 11b & g and are running with original firmware. The one that does not work, the Belkin, has 11n, also running with original firmware.
For some flashing the original radio has worked. Others report that it makes no difference.
I have just noticed your reference to Sprint. In that case it may be better to start your own thread on the dedicated Hero CDMA forum, which deals with CDMA phones rather than the GSM phones that most of us have got. You could also try reading and asking here as well.
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Are those your symptoms?
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Pretty much exactly. WiFi will work for 10 minutes or so, then quit. Phone still says it's connected, excellent signal strength, and has valid IP configuration. Just won't pass any traffic.
I'm seriously considering flashing a newer radio version to see if it helps, but I've read accounts of bricked phones when people try to revert back to the original radio. I have to be able to get back to original because if I don't get WiFi working the phones will need to be returned since WiFi is not optional for us. (Sadly, I'll probably end up stuck with a Blackberry if we go that route, since WinMo is 100% out of the question.)
As an alternative solution, can anybody recommend a router that's currently available and known to work with the Hero? I would need it to support external antennas and be able to flash dd-wrt onto it.
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I'm seriously considering flashing a newer radio version to see if it helps, but I've read accounts of bricked phones when people try to revert back to the original radio.
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I've read a few reports of bricking while flashing radios, but in all cases it's been due to the user. The actual flashing takes place on the first reboot after the update.zip is applied in recovery. At this point the phone displays a graphic of a box and a phone with an arrow indicating transfer from box to phone. Apparently some people have freaked at this point, as they thought the update was already done & hence something must be wrong. As a result they pull their battery
I've not come across bricking reports specifically in relation to reverting back to the original radio. Got any links?
subliminalurge said:
I would need it to support external antennas and be able to flash dd-wrt onto it.
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I am not sure why you would need this. I also wonder whether flashing something different on to a router which works may stop it working. But then I may be showing the limits of my knowledge.
If it is any use to you I still use my Belkin router (it is both wired and wireless) for my usual wifi throughout most of the house and my office. The only thing I don't use it wirelessly for is the Hero (and an old printer with a LAN print sharer). I sat my old D-Link router on top of the Belkin and wired the two together using a LAN cable. So the wireless bit of the D-Link works for the Hero via the wired hub of the Belkin. I have exactly the same set up for the Netgear router, which serves another part of the house and is also wired in to the Belkin.
They both work fine piggy backed by wire on to the Belkin. The problem is only with the wireless bit of the Belkin, not the rest of it. So why not try a new router wired in to your existing one?
Both the two routers I have named work, but both are, I guess, no longer available new. Not sure if they were ever sold in the USA, given I am in the UK. But if they did why not try a used one on fleabay?
And I still think you would be better served posting on the specific Sprint forum. The Sprint version of this phone is a CDMA phone with different version of ROM than the GSM version which most of the rest of us use. The phones even look different!
Never had any problems with wifi on this phone.
Maybe i have this probelem now...
never had a problem before i rooted and updated radios etc on my phone...
Just rooted it today... so need to check it out a bit more.
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Yes, the wifi dies on me now.
I was using: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26
Reflashing to: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29 now...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757 Download Radios
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29
Phone works better with this!
Wifi all the time now when i want.
The latest one was not so good...
From the Android forum...
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Hero/router compatibility list
As so many differing reports of wi-fi connection issues are appearing, I have thrown together a quick-and-dirty summary of known routers/APs mentioned in this and similar threads. Put simply, "Good" work with the Hero using WPA2, "Bad" don't work at all, and "Ugly" work but with limitations.
I don't claim that this is in any way definitive or scientific, but it should help anyone looking for help with an inop wi-fi link. Please post any further details you may have both on the listed hardware and any other devices, working or otherwise. The more info we have the better placed we are to help each other.
GOOD:
D-Link DI-524 (3.1.3b firmware on hw rev G2 only)
Draytek Vigor 2600G (2.5.9_UK firmware)
Linksys WRT54G (Tomato v? firmware; link still drops infrequently)
Linksys WRT54GL
Netgear DG834G
BAD:
Belkin F5D8636-4 (No WEP64/128, WPA/WPA2)
Gigabyte GN-BR01G
Zoom X6
Zyxel P-2602HW-D1A
UGLY:
Belkin F5D7230 (WEP128 only; No WEP64. WPA/WPA2)
Belkin F5D8321-4 (WEP128 only; no WPA/WPA2)
/Al
Add the following
GOOD
Netgear WGR 614
BAD
Belkin FSD9630-4
i had a similar problem with my ps3 and hero on a belkin router. all i did was update the router firmware and it all started working
Bad
Tiscali siemens gigaset router
amongst many others!
Tested on UK T-mobile and Orange Heros, Stock ROMs

[Q] Wi-Fi issue hardware or software?

Recently picked up a gs3 and I like it but one thing that is really bothering me is I'm getting constant drop outs on wi-fi and the reception is very low unless I'm standing next to the router.
Other devices do not have any issue at all. I've also noticed when scanning wifi the gs3 doesn't pick up as many routers as other devices do.
I've been reading threads and noticed a member mention going into the service menu and disabling power saving on wi-fi but that has not solved the issue.
I'm wondering whether it's a hardware or software problem. If it was software then surely others would have issues?
I don't really want to exchange the phone incase I get screen issues like the pink tint or blobs people are having.
But obviously if I have a hardware fault then I'll have to get it exchanged as a phone that keeps disconnecting from the wifi is not useful to me.
I also have this problem but it also extends to my 3G connection. Does not connect until I restart my phone, doesn't happen often, but its a pain when it does. I downloaded a WiFi fix from Google play and so far so good not had any problems...this is the only problem I have with this device otherwise its a beast of a phone.
Not sure if your setup is like mine but i had two routers in my home broadcasting the same ssid and channel. I kept facing frequent dropouts until i changed the channel on one of them. It seems the device kept bouncing between the two routers even though i was much closer to one. No more drops once they both broadcast on different channels
i read somewhere in this forum that you have to change the setting of the band of the router to 5ghz.
that fixed the connection dropout of wifi.
rickssj4 said:
I also have this problem but it also extends to my 3G connection. Does not connect until I restart my phone, doesn't happen often, but its a pain when it does. I downloaded a WiFi fix from Google play and so far so good not had any problems...this is the only problem I have with this device otherwise its a beast of a phone.
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I have tried wifi fix and it hasn't fixed it unfortunately
bullyfrog said:
Not sure if your setup is like mine but i had two routers in my home broadcasting the same ssid and channel. I kept facing frequent dropouts until i changed the channel on one of them. It seems the device kept bouncing between the two routers even though i was much closer to one. No more drops once they both broadcast on different channels
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I only have one router. But I will try changing channels as maybe there's a lot of congestion on the channel I'm using.
radeonxt said:
i read somewhere in this forum that you have to change the setting of the band of the router to 5ghz.
that fixed the connection dropout of wifi.
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I've read about that on here but I don't think my router has that option.
I'll go into the config and see if it does.
Thanks for all the replies
Just to update the thread, since I started this thread my wifi has been awful the way it keeps disconnecting especially when downloading large files.
I've been googling and had tried lots of different things.
What finally seems to have solved the drop out issue is turning security on my router to wpa instead of wpa2.
No drop outs so far even when downloading large files, but the signal strength is really bad, not sure if I still have a hardware fault or whether the galaxy s3 wifi is just weak.
Hi,
Same problem with mine. weak signal. At home or at work.
I think this an issue (hardware ? software ?).
But I'am surprised that we are alone.
Me too
Same issue here with regular random wifi dropouts at 2 ap's. Radio streams far more reliably over 3g!
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Same issue here with regular random wifi dropouts at 2 ap's. Radio streams far more reliably over 3g!
[/COLOR]Same issue here with regular random wifi dropouts at 2 ap's. Radio streams far more reliably over 3g![/QUOTE]
Read on another android forum that somebody had been advised by their carrier to return the device. I was hoping lf2 update would sort it but no such luck...
Mines absolutely fine :s.....
Sent from my S3 overclocked to 1.6ghz with HyperGalaxy Rom
gs3 said:
Recently picked up a gs3 and I like it but one thing that is really bothering me is I'm getting constant drop outs on wi-fi and the reception is very low unless I'm standing next to the router.
Other devices do not have any issue at all. I've also noticed when scanning wifi the gs3 doesn't pick up as many routers as other devices do.
I've been reading threads and noticed a member mention going into the service menu and disabling power saving on wi-fi but that has not solved the issue.
I'm wondering whether it's a hardware or software problem. If it was software then surely others would have issues?
I don't really want to exchange the phone incase I get screen issues like the pink tint or blobs people are having.
But obviously if I have a hardware fault then I'll have to get it exchanged as a phone that keeps disconnecting from the wifi is not useful to me.
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i found this thread on xda, i'm hoping it does the trick
If you are using 2 APs with the same SSID and settings, your device can roam seamlessly only if the underlying network is the same network. If the 2 APs connect to different network subnet, it will never be seamless and you will get connection drops.
Your device must receive the same IP and subnet from the same DHCP with same gateway so it will be seamless between 2 APs.
I had issues at work. But not at home.
Today I told it to forget my B/G radio and to connect to the N radio. No disconnects, none..
No changes made to the phone at all..
May not be router
Hi, for what it's worth, my husband and I each have an s3. Mine has no problems at all with wifi anywhere. His drops out at home. I posted more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28510251#post28510251
We've tried the *#0011# trick and that is a temporary fix, but we need to redo it on a regular basis. The setting is not saving.

At my wit's end... do any of these phones actually work?

So I've had my new EVO 4G LTE all of about two weeks and have had nothing but troubles with it. I'm currently on the 5th phone (replaced 4 times since the first) and its still got the same wifi / 3g issues that caused me to replace it twice which have both the wifi and the 3g disconnecting for no reason whatsoever and when the 3g works, I get speeds slower than the oldest 14.4k modems unless I'm within about 100 yards of a cell tower. The other two times I had to exchange it because there was dust under the phone's screen.
Because of the connectivity issues, the phone is almost useless to me unless I don't plan on using data at all, or if I'm sitting by a wifi router and don't plan on using that connection for more than 10 minutes continuously. I've tried the 2.4GHz fix, the turning off LTE fix, and even given it a static IP at home.. all without any change in performance. I'm really at my wit's end and would have already exchanged it for a 6th phone if I thought there would be a reasonable expectation that the new one would work correctly.
Is there any other fixes out there that I have yet to try? Do any of the rooted OS's have a newer / better modem that will fix my problem? Should I just return the thing again and switch to a different manufacturer? I chose to get the Evo rather than wait for the Galaxy S3 because I never liked my old Epic, but I'm starting to think that this was a massive mistake...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Are you sure your router isn't acting up? And where you live might be a testing area for LTE? That would cause network issues.
The last thing is-have you removed your back cover to install am SD Card? That cover needs to be on securely as I believe that is the antenna
Location.
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Oh, I assume you have done PRL update and profile updates? There are 2 ways to do that. Settings/Updates/PRL and Profile.
Also dial *2 and you can do PRL and Profile updates there you. The *2 also runs a data and voice test, you will see green, or red, check marks.
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I haven't had any problems. I actually receive awesome 3g service (not so much indoors) the EVO connects to my wireless N router flawlessly. I think your automatic disconnection issues is due to htcsmartsync. It's designed to shut off services (like airplane mode) in order to keep the phone in a deep sleep.
I would suggest rooting your phone and deleting the code from your phone. Can work wonders ?
I wouldnt suggest unlocking your bootloader to flash Roms though..reason being, if htcsync isnt the culprit. I don't want you to have a tampered phone and not being able to return it....goodluck. ill post links in a bit
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I feel your pain, I have two and both have similar issues. I have tried different roms and get the same issues. My EVO 3D was faster than this phone and I think it may be do to some issue in the firmware. I am just riding it out. I personally am surprised more users have not come forward. My biggest complaint is the lag on the device. I can flash a clean rom install, or flash over an existing base and it is faster, but then lags out and is dreadfully slow after just a few hours.
What type of encryption are you using on the router tkip, aes, wep? Is it wireless n or g?
Plenty of these phones work. My WiFi and 3G work flawlessly, and I haven't had to exchange once.
I was having similar issues with my 3G randomly dropping out, but never any problem with my wifi. I updated profile and PRL last week, flashed a ROM with SmartSync disabled, and haven't had a problem since.
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when i first got my lte on the 2 i had wifi issues.. but about a week they went away.. phones been runnung perfect for a while now :good:
i've never had problems with the device and i find it very strange that you have had problems with 5 devices. perhaps its not the phone but you that is the issue, or your hardware at home or maybe your house in in a Faraday cage or something. either way..
No issues here.
3G speeds and coverage are awesome around my work, on the way to work and at home. Also the WiFi is faster than my darn desktop, with the wireless N.
mtg981 said:
Are you sure your router isn't acting up? And where you live might be a testing area for LTE? That would cause network issues.
The last thing is-have you removed your back cover to install am SD Card? That cover needs to be on securely as I believe that is the antenna
Location.
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I'm fairly sure it isn't the router since the phone is behaving the same way on my school's wifi and the one at the starbucks near my house. Also, I have other devices connected to my router at the same time as the Evo and none of them are experiencing the same issues.
I am willing to accept that there is a possibility the some or all of my 3G issues are related to the network upgrade, but I'm experiencing the extremely slow speeds over most of the city of Denver, and I'm guessing it would be unlikely that they would be upgrading 75% of the towers in the city at the same time. It also doesn't really explain the 3G service just shutting off randomly and then popping back on a few seconds later. That all being said, even if it is network issues, it just serves to highlight the lack of a reliable wifi connection.
As far as the back panel is concerned, I did install a micro-sd card there, and, since reading your post, I have removed it, blown off and dust / debris that might have gotten in there, and reseated it as snugly as possible. This didn't generate any sort of fix for the 3G issues, though I've not had a chance to test if wifi is working any better now. I did notice however that some of the gold filaments were discolored, so perhaps there is a manufacturing defect, though I'm not sure how the color of the filament could affect its conductivity.
mtg981 said:
Oh, I assume you have done PRL update and profile updates? There are 2 ways to do that. Settings/Updates/PRL and Profile.
Also dial *2 and you can do PRL and Profile updates there you. The *2 also runs a data and voice test, you will see green, or red, check marks.
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I have done about 7 PRL / profile updates on this particular phone. I have also done a couple factory data hard resets through the boot screen in the hopes that it was just "glitching". Though the resets seemed to help, the effect didn't last, and none of the PRL / profile updates did anything to improve performance.
I did have a look at the *2 screen you mentioned and found that both voice and data had green checks by them, but I think this is only a check to determine if the connection exists at all and has nothing to do with quality. I do remember hearing about another testing screen you can get to through the dialer by pressing a sequence of characters which gives you access to a much more in-depth set of tests, but searching hasn't produced anything on that, at least with my search terms. That being said, I took a previous phone with the same issues into the sprint store and they told me it passed all of their diagnostic tests, so I'm not sure it would tell me anything different.
Steven 1 said:
I haven't had any problems. I actually receive awesome 3g service (not so much indoors) the EVO connects to my wireless N router flawlessly. I think your automatic disconnection issues is due to htcsmartsync. It's designed to shut off services (like airplane mode) in order to keep the phone in a deep sleep.
I would suggest rooting your phone and deleting the code from your phone. Can work wonders ?
I wouldnt suggest unlocking your bootloader to flash Roms though..reason being, if htcsync isnt the culprit. I don't want you to have a tampered phone and not being able to return it....goodluck. ill post links in a bit
Sounds like an interesting possibility, though my wifi / 3g turn off while in direct, phone is awake and I'm using the program thats using the connection, use. I'll have to read about htcsync to see if its able to shut down connection while in use. While I'm not opposed to rooting my phone (I've resisted the urge to do it now because I really don't want to have troubles with returning it), I really don't like the idea that I might not be able to fix this problem without doing it...
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Mikee4fun said:
I feel your pain, I have two and both have similar issues. I have tried different roms and get the same issues. My EVO 3D was faster than this phone and I think it may be do to some issue in the firmware. I am just riding it out. I personally am surprised more users have not come forward. My biggest complaint is the lag on the device. I can flash a clean rom install, or flash over an existing base and it is faster, but then lags out and is dreadfully slow after just a few hours.
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Luckily, mine doesn't seem to suffer from lag at all, just a really horrible connection. From what I've heard at best buy and sprint though, a huge number of people are having similar issues with this phone. The people at best buy even went so far as to try and tell me this was a "known issue" and therefore wouldn't be exchanging it again (this was the third time), to which I had to reply that I would then like a full refund and would be taking my business elsewhere. The way I see it, if a phone has a known issue, but not all of the phones are affected by it, you have to keep replacing it until I get one without the issue.
dmacias said:
What type of encryption are you using on the router tkip, aes, wep? Is it wireless n or g?
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The encryption is WPA2 - AES and the router is running in "Mixed 802.11n, 802.11g, and 802.11b" mode.
Spyderekz said:
i've never had problems with the device and i find it very strange that you have had problems with 5 devices. perhaps its not the phone but you that is the issue, or your hardware at home or maybe your house in in a Faraday cage or something. either way..
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I've thought about that possibility for sure, but the slow speeds and intermittent connections for 3g and wifi go, and have gone for all of the devices with this problem (don't forget, two of them were returned because they had dust under the phone's screen), all over the city with me, so, unless I'm a walking cell disrupter, then I think the issue lies somewhere in the phone.
Could be, I know I mess up my tv reception when I'm near it, its like my super power
sent from my EVO LTE
Spyderekz said:
Could be, I know I mess up my tv reception when I'm near it, its like my super power
sent from my EVO LTE
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I would think that this would have surfaced a long time ago were it really the case though, as this is the first phone I've ever owned which has had this much trouble with connectivity.
1st thing....I havent checked but isn't the smith.apk still included? 2ndly I had issues with this phone dropping secured connections from afar and found it to be interference witht he witless signal so try changing your frequency....that solved my issues....no lags here. Remember these new phones are designed to drop 3g when possible to help conserve battery.:thumbup:
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neopolotin75 said:
1st thing....I havent checked but isn't the smith.apk still included? 2ndly I had issues with this phone dropping secured connections from afar and found it to be interference witht he witless signal so try changing your frequency....that solved my issues....no lags here. Remember these new phones are designed to drop 3g when possible to help conserve battery.:thumbup:
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From what I can tell, and I may be wrong on this of course, smith.apk is a logger and not a throttler as people initially thought. Its something I'd probably ensure was removed from any custom OS I install, but its apparently not something that would affect connections at all. That being said, I'm curious just how this "Mobile Network Director" is supposed to know when I need my data connection, but that seems to be on the network side and not on the phone.
I'll have to check into the frequency thing. I remember a long time ago I had to mess with my previous router's channel because it was interfering with my wireless mouse for some reason, but I've not had any similar problems with the new router in the last four years, until now potentially I guess.
As for the 3G turning off when possible to save battery or network bandwidth, I can understand that concept, but it would have to be very broken to shut off any network with a good signal while its actually in use.
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From what I can tell, and I may be wrong on this of course, smith.apk is a logger and not a throttler as people initially thought. Its something I'd probably ensure was removed from any custom OS I install, but its apparently not something that would affect connections at all. That being said, I'm curious just how this "Mobile Network Director" is supposed to know when I need my data connection, but that seems to be on the network side and not on the phone.
I'll have to check into the frequency thing. I remember a long time ago I had to mess with my previous router's channel because it was interfering with my wireless mouse for some reason, but I've not had any similar problems with the new router in the last four years, until now potentially I guess.
As for the 3G turning off when possible to save battery or network bandwidth, I can understand that concept, but it would have to be very broken to shut off any network with a good signal while its actually in use.
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I thought it was smith but maybe its the other thing you mentioned but they recently started adding that software to dump people from 3g to 1x to avoid congestion and it was actually installed on the phone itself. I had no issues with WiFi until the ICS stuff started coming out....I had the issue on the 3D and the LTE....the 2 phones didn't seem to like dual encryption especially from afar so I changed the encryption still had issues except for open then I tried changing the channel and that held.
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A lot of misconceptions about that smith apk here.....
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I saw in another thread that you had your Epic replaced 5 times in 2 years. Now you are on your 5th Evo? So you have basically had 10 phones in the past 2 years? Have the last EVOs beet rooted at all, or are they completely untouched as far as things like the build.prop goes? Could there be a particular app that you are installing on all those phones that could be causing your issue? If you truly have had 10 bad phones in the past 2 years, then do not buy any lottery tickets!
My Evo doesn't drop Wifi at all. It does drop 3G, but only when I am in an area where I get one bar. Make sure Best Wi-fi performance is unchecked in the Advanced Wi-Fi settings, and in Wi-Fi frequency Band, try changing it to 2.4 only.
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A lot of misconceptions about that smith apk here.....
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Not a misconception just had it confused with that new one they started using this year to manage the data connection
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[Q] "Authorization Error" Wifi Rejecting Password

I have searched all over and I don't find an answer, if I'm missing a thread please just point me in the right direction.
My home wifi has been working with my Note just fine since I got the phone (cue ominous music) up until yesterday. Last night, it started asking me for a password (which was weird, because it hadn't since I first got the phone and set the connection up), and I put the password in, but it kept saying "authorization error." I am really frustrated, I rebooted the phone, the router, removed the home wifi connection (the "forget" button) and reinput it -- I even booted into "safe" mode to make sure it wasn't some app -- no joy. It's a very simple linksys router, WPA/WPA2 security, all the other tablets/computers/phones in the house work just fine (tablets/other phone Android, laptops Windows.) And my Note was working just fine until last night -- no recent software install or update, it was seemingly just random. It's a stock Verizon Note, I haven't even bothered to root since it does everything I want.
Here's the kicker: I connect to OTHER public networks just fine. I connected to my work and McDonald's wifi this morning, no problems.
What could be wrong? I really need to be able to use my wifi at home, I don't see anything in Google or on the boards about this. I am hoping my search-fu is weak and someone knows what is up with this.
restore defaults on your router, then setup a new password.
Hope this Helps....
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I have searched all over and I don't find an answer, if I'm missing a thread please just point me in the right direction.
My home wifi has been working with my Note just fine since I got the phone (cue ominous music) up until yesterday. Last night, it started asking me for a password (which was weird, because it hadn't since I first got the phone and set the connection up), and I put the password in, but it kept saying "authorization error." I am really frustrated, I rebooted the phone, the router, removed the home wifi connection (the "forget" button) and reinput it -- I even booted into "safe" mode to make sure it wasn't some app -- no joy. It's a very simple linksys router, WPA/WPA2 security, all the other tablets/computers/phones in the house work just fine (tablets/other phone Android, laptops Windows.) And my Note was working just fine until last night -- no recent software install or update, it was seemingly just random. It's a stock Verizon Note, I haven't even bothered to root since it does everything I want.
Here's the kicker: I connect to OTHER public networks just fine. I connected to my work and McDonald's wifi this morning, no problems.
What could be wrong? I really need to be able to use my wifi at home, I don't see anything in Google or on the boards about this. I am hoping my search-fu is weak and someone knows what is up with this.
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I have been experiencing this problem for the past 4 days. I have owned my Note II since December 25, 2012 and it has been working on any WIFI AP ive tried. 4 days ago in the middle of the day, my phone started giving out "authorization error" and would not let me log in to my home WIFI. I have 4 computers, 3 smartphones and other devices all working perfectly in my home WIFI. My problem even occurred when connecting to open, unsecured WIFI AP also. Nothing seemed to work. I called Verizon and did all the steps leading up to factory reset. With no luck on any tricks or tips from them I called Samsung. They walked me through the same processes and everything, so I decided to do a factory reset. This did not fix anything. I still get "authorization error" and "wrong password" on any WIFI i try to connect to.
I found out yesterday if I stand within 5 feet of my WIFI router I can connect and browse the internet for a few minutes until it kicks me off and does the same old "authorization error". If I sign in to my WIFI within the 5 feet and walk away, it disconnects and again, gives me the error messages.
I called Verizon back and they are sending me a replacement phone.
TL;DR:
Try accessing your WIFI when you are right next to it.
If problems still persist, call your carrier.
I hope your phone isnt as busted as mine.
Argh, that's bad. At least my phone connected to open networks so I knew the hardware was ok -- I wiped the router and set it up again (per the suggestion in this thread) and I'm good for now. (Embarrassed I didn't think of that myself) Hope you have better luck with your replacement phone!
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I have been experiencing this problem for the past 4 days. I have owned my Note II since December 25, 2012 and it has been working on any WIFI AP ive tried. 4 days ago in the middle of the day, my phone started giving out "authorization error" and would not let me log in to my home WIFI. I have 4 computers, 3 smartphones and other devices all working perfectly in my home WIFI. My problem even occurred when connecting to open, unsecured WIFI AP also. Nothing seemed to work. I called Verizon and did all the steps leading up to factory reset. With no luck on any tricks or tips from them I called Samsung. They walked me through the same processes and everything, so I decided to do a factory reset. This did not fix anything. I still get "authorization error" and "wrong password" on any WIFI i try to connect to.
I found out yesterday if I stand within 5 feet of my WIFI router I can connect and browse the internet for a few minutes until it kicks me off and does the same old "authorization error". If I sign in to my WIFI within the 5 feet and walk away, it disconnects and again, gives me the error messages.
I called Verizon back and they are sending me a replacement phone.
TL;DR:
Try accessing your WIFI when you are right next to it.
If problems still persist, call your carrier.
I hope your phone isnt as busted as mine.
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Ok............ wow you have me 100% nervous now. I've been experiencing this issue ever since I unlocked, rooted and ROM'd my Note 2 back in the middle of December, and I experience the problem with only my Wireless-N SSID on my router. I can connect to the Wireless-G band just fine but the N one gives me this error no matter whether it's open or not. I seriously hope this isn't an issue of broken hardware..............
I figured this was worth mentioning. I have 3 Note 2's in my household, 2 of them are running Beans Build 5 and Perseus kernel overclocked and the other phone is totally stock.
All 3 phones have the exact same issue of connecting to the 802.11 N band on my router. They connect to the G band just fine. I think this rules out any worries about it being a lemon issue. Most definitely is a Samsung software issue that's been happening to multiple models going back a few years. Here's a google search of this issue using non-phone specific parameters. Notice how ALL phone specific forums point to a Samsung device.
I have a bad feeling that this is not something that will be getting resolved any time soon.
Edit:
The plot thickens. I have performed some tests on my router to see if I could get my phone to connect. Well here's my results:
5Ghz band = Wireless-N Only = Authentication error occurred
5Ghz band = Wireless-A/N Mixed = Connects instantly
2.4Ghz band = Wireless-N Only = Authentication error occurred
2.4Ghz band = Wireless-G Only = Connects instantly
The problem is clear. It's Wireless-N. I can connect just fine at Wireless-A speeds (54mbps max signal) and everything up to Wireless-G, independent of frequency, but as soon as I try to force Wireless-N onto my phone, it craps out and fails to authenticate. This happens regardless of whether I have the network encrypted or not.
And based upon my google search I have linked to in this post, I doubt this is something we can expect to be fixed anytime soon. Oh yeah and for the record, when I have my router set to Wireless-N only mode, I was able to connect instantly without error on my crappy old HTC Thunderbolt running a hacked together AOSP 4.0.3 ROM.
Yep............... GG Samsung
wireless n has been a unreliable joke since it was released...my favorite routers are the linksys wrt-54gl running linux dd-wrt firmware. one of the most affordable rock solid routers built. its only g band but most people do not need anything faster for home use. heck most of us cant afford the t1 type connection speed to utilize n band anyway.
Exact same problem as well...I'll have to try the Wireless N-only vs. Auto to see if that fixes it...
EDIT: Both wireless mode settings of 'N-only' and 'Auto' caused the problem. I had to set it to 'Legacy' in order to get the connection to stick without authentification errors. Have an ASUS RT-N66U router...
EDIT 2: Did the same thing on my Cisco E3000 and it worked as well.
Really looks like a Sansung wifi bug on the Note 2....
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Really looks like a Sansung wifi bug on the Note 2....
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It's not Samsung. There have been issues with myriad devices and wireless N pretty much the whole time it's been around. Android OS or the the N standard-- I personally know people with other manufacturers hardware and the exact same issues. If it's an OS problem, you would think it would be fixed by now, but who knows, like was mentioned above, very few people need the bandwidth that wireless n can theoreticly provide.
Good Luck,
Jason
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It's not Samsung. There have been issues with myriad devices and wireless N pretty much the whole time it's been around. Android OS or the the N standard-- I personally know people with other manufacturers hardware and the exact same issues. If it's an OS problem, you would think it would be fixed by now, but who knows, like was mentioned above, very few people need the bandwidth that wireless n can theoreticly provide.
Good Luck,
Jason
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It's definitely something specific with Samsung and the N2 since my cousin's G3 connects to the same router on 5GHz WirelessN/Auto with no issues at all. I think they have a bug to fix...
Can someone else perform a check with their Note 2 on a Wireless N only setting? It seems this is a bug that really need to be fixed.
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Can someone else perform a check with their Note 2 on a Wireless N only setting? It seems this is a bug that really need to be fixed.
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Mines been working on N only since I got it. Rooted and running about 6 different ROMs.
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I just had this issue come up when moving to an AOSP ROM this morning. I even nandroided to a previous ROM that had working WiFi and still not working. I restore defaults on my router and reset all my security settings. Still getting the same authentication error.
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For the people experiencing this issue, are you on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2?
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For the people experiencing this issue, are you on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2?
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I have tried roms that were 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 with no luck.
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I am pretty much to the point of using Odin to go back to stock and see if that fixes it. I went back to stock rooted rom that was my first backup and the problem still carries over.
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"Internet connection is unstable" issue

OK, I've seen a lot of posts in various forums about this issue, but have yet to find a single thread that captures all the details about what I've experienced. Let me know if I should move this conversation into a different thread.
On my home wifi network, I am able to connect, but constantly receive the error "internet connection is unstable", and I cannot pull any data over wifi. I noticed this issue on my home network after returning from a business trip this week. I'd previously seen the issue occasionally in hotels, etc, and had already disabled the "Passpoint" and "Auto network switch settings". That seemed to work on the road, but now that I'm at home, I'm unable to pull any data over wifi.
My home router is a TP-Link Archer C7, running the latest firmware.
Per Verizon and Samsung's advice, I cleared the cache partition, "forgot" and reconnected to the network, tried using safe mode, and tried a factory reset of the phone. I also restarted the router and changed the router's broadcast channels.
Last night, I rooted the phone via Kingo and installed the Jelly 'Beans' rom using SafeStrap, since I wasn't getting satisfactory answers from support. To my surprise, the issue also occurred on the new rom. I'm not an Android expert, but it seems like this means its either:
1) a hardware issue, or
2) a lower-level software issue (radio firmware? not sure how that works)
I removed root and safestrap, to continue support options with Verizon, but I wanted to ping the community here for suggestions. The timing is confusing to me. I'm pretty sure, though not certain, that I've used my home network successfully since the 12/17 OTA update. However, since so many others are seeing issues, it seems unlikely that this is a hardware issue.
Could others describe their issues and router, so we can look for patterns? Let me know if I should move this into a different thread.
Thanks!
Mine does the same thing from time to time but only on certain roms
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yeah, I'd seen intermittent issues previously, but all of a sudden it stopped working at home entirely. Still connects to some other networks, although not all.
After seeing a bunch of posts on the Verizon forums (and just the general timing and behavior of the issue) it seemed like a software problem.
Verizon is actually cooperating, so I may just end up replacing this phone. Wondering if anyone else has seen wifi completely break like this.
This is the only thing I can not stand about my note
I have a Zyxel WAP3205 WIFI access point (Wireless G) that I use at both work and at home.
At home, I have Comcast Business Cable internet, and have absolutely no issues connecting to it. The WAP is connected to a Belkin N600 router, which is then connected to my cable modem (not sure of the model, shouldn't matter TBQH).
At work on the other hand, I have constant connection issues. Albeit, I don't get the 'connection is unstable' notification, but I get constant connect/disconnect problems. I also have almost no (most of the time I can't even send/receive text messages at my desk.....) phone signal (ie not even 1X). I'm not sure if that plays into it at all either. The company I work for uses Windstream for their ISP, and it's complete crap to be perfectly honest. Needless to say, it doesn't change the fact that I'm connecting to the internet through the same device (well, same model/firmware/etc...), and I'm having issues at 1 place and not at the other.
I might also add that my tablet (Nexus 7 2013 running CM11) doesn't seem to have these issues at all and works just fine via the WIFI.
That's about the only information that I can provide. I know my internet where I work is complete crap. I sometimes remote desktop back to my home server to browse the web and download files via that because it's actually faster. I'm not even kidding.
I have 2 routers at home and have experienced the same issue as well and none of my other devices have this problem
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Verizon is shipping a replacement phone to me tomorrow, so I'll test this out and see if it makes a difference. I'm on the road until Thursday, so it'll be a few days before I can check on my home router.
The behavior on this issue just seems strange. It began intermittently, but then completely stopped working at my house (but still sometimes works elsewhere). Lots of people report intermittent issues, but a few seem completely broken. Not sure what to make of it, I'm just glad I was able to get a different device out of Verizon. We'll see if that actually fixes the problem.
I haven't had this notification until I got the Note3. Is it possible that its android 4.3? Or this tw 4.3? Anybody know if other folks get this with other devices?
Harleydroid said:
I haven't had this notification until I got the Note3. Is it possible that its android 4.3? Or this tw 4.3? Anybody know if other folks get this with other devices?
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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It happens on custom roms too.
I've asked a couple devs if they could remove it and they said it been like that in android for along time.But I never experienced it until my Note 3
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I only have this problem if I connect to the wifi at work, which is odd because I'm about 7 unobstructed feet away from the AP. I don't get this anywhere else.
I had a Note2 on stock rom up to 4.3 and never had the issue. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 latest version, again, no problem. It's only on my Note3 with stock rom that this happens.
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Same here. Never happened on my Note2 but happens all the time on my Note3. I have two Linksys Routers at home for full house coverage and I can be in the next room and get that message. Just got it earlier. Same routers as I had with the N2 a few months ago. My Tablet, nor the Spouses HTC One Max have that issue and are connecting just fine, and stay connected.
I get this all the time. Got it on stock as well. Only really happens with my ghetto satellite Internet though lol
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Has anyone with this issue installed AdBlock and/or an ad-blocking HOSTS file? I didn't start seeing this problem until I did both.
Whenever I see this message I can go into the speedtest.net app and pull a continuous 60mbits down, pretty much maxing my connection, and I never see any actual stability issues.
I think the system may have some connectivity test that's being interfered with but I haven't had time to go digging through the logs yet, so I wanted to see if anyone else had done what I did to trigger it first.
Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
I'm on AT&T DSL... I was getting the notification ALL THE TIME while using the supplied (4 year old) AT&T 2Wire router and it would fail and freeze and disconnect and it was DRIVING ME NUTS... so i went out and got a brand new Netgear N300 router and problem is solved ... mostly
I'm still using the AT&T 2Wire as a modem... disabled it's internal wifi... ethernet cable to the Netgear. .. and BINGO!!! All my connection problems and data problems have gone away... i still get the unstable notification maybe once or twice a week but i figure that's a DSL thing... any little glitches in Internet availability will be detected by the device and displayed so that doesn't bother me at all.
It's almost like this phone does ping tests all the time and if one doesn't come back properly it throws the notification...
i was at a friends house the other day and was getting the notification constantly but was still able to watch YouTube videos and Netflix without much problem... so i did some speed tests on his wifi and his ping and upload were all over the place... His download speed was solid between 20 and 28 but his upload was never even close to normal and failed several times... and his ping was good on some and took forever on others... i also noticed Web pages would sometimes take forever to start loading ... Once they started loading they did so quickly but the start was painfully slow a lot of the time... This would indicate to me that the ping or upload connection has issues or maybe over congested on his iSP.
Anyway... hope this helps others iron things out
b00mb00mchuck said:
Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
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When I get the notification, it refuses to use the wifi at all.
I haven't noticed any problems with my WiFi. I host 6 wireless networks, and play with WiFi a lot, War driving, and wireless network setup is a hobby of mine.
One thing I noticed at several throttled Hot Spots My VZW note 3 would test the WiFi speed, if it was slower than 4G it would display a popup, something to the effect "Wireless too slow, using mobile Data" I can't remember the exact popup text. It might be a VZW thing.
I use the OOKLA speedtest, free from the play store. (After you run your OOKLA test, for fun drag the speedometer down to reveal some cool messages about Ookla!
A few wireless router settings I use:
Set 2.4 to N 20 Megs max. N 40 or AC mostly just creates problems with connections, and the neighborhood.
Channels 1, 6, or 11 in USA Use a WiFi analyzer app and pick a less cluttered WiFi channel.
Place wireless router up high away from electronics, construction, and stuffs. Mine is on a pedestal in a window.
SM-N900V DE Running JellyBeans V6
radionerd said:
One thing I noticed at several throttled Hot Spots My VZW note 3 would test the WiFi speed, if it was slower than 4G it would display a popup, something to the effect "Wireless too slow, using mobile Data" I can't remember the exact popup text. It might be a VZW thing.
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Go to WiFi settings/advanced/auto network switch... and turn that off so it won't jump off slow WiFi networks
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Go to WiFi settings/advanced/auto network switch... and turn that off so it won't jump off slow WiFi networks
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Thanks,
I just tested "auto network switch" on and then off. It let me connect to one of my throttled networks, without; "Checking quality of internet connection".
I noticed that it only showed; "network disabled because internet connection is slow" on the congested 2.4 GHz band, not with same router on 5.8 GHz.
Radio interference, location, and router settings, can cause many problems on wireless networks.
b00mb00mchuck said:
Seems to be two different issues being discussed here without really differentiating the two... the OP states that he is always getting the notification and "can't pull any data over wifi" ... others are saying they are getting the notification without really stating if it is affecting their overall wifi performance at all.
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You're right, I noticed in my research that multiple issues seem to be getting lumped together. I think you're correct in that it's related to the router as well, somehow. I see the notification occasionally on slow hotel connections, but it's intermittent, my problem at home seems permanent. I can use some other wifi networks without problems, though.
That said, I used this phone on my home router for a couple months before ever seeing this problem. I'm guessing it's a combination of the 12/17 OTA update, and particular router models.
Verizon sent me a replacement phone, and it's running the previous build (MJ7 instead of MJE). I'll check things out tonight, and will report back.
Alright, the issue seems resolved on the new phone. This seems to suggest that it is related to the MJE build. So far this phone hasn't asked for an update, but I'm hoping Verizon doesn't break this again for me

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