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Hi, I just switched completely from iOS to Android after I while I used an iPhone and a Nexus 7 together. Now I replaced the iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy S4.
I'm pretty happy, but there are a couple of things I still completely grasp about how Android notifications work.
My first issue is related to *blocking mode* and Whatsapp. I have the same issue reported in this discussion.
It seems that the app can bypass Android notification system and relies on something else. Is that true? How can that happen?
I have another concern related to the use of vibration when sound is turned on. It seems that the system-wide settings refers only to phone calls, while for other notifications I have to rely on app-specific settings. Am I correct?
Taking for example facebook app, what would happen if I disable vibration and put the phone in silent mode? Will it vibrate?
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
Generally speaking, can you please give me a link to Android documentation explaining what aspects of notifications it manages system-wide and what is responsibility of each application?
I'd really like to see as much as possible managed by the operating system, but from what I am experiencing it seems that it is exactly the other way round with a lot of settings left to the applications.
Blocking mode is a Samsung feature AFAIK. Maybe WhatsApp is using the media channel for notifications instead of the notifications channel? Not sure.
mariosangiorgio said:
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
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Take a look at DashClock with one of the many extensions (e.g. AnyDash), NiLS Notifications Lock Screen, or any similar widget.
There's also Floating Notifications, which can show you (bubbles of) your notifications on your lockscreen.
Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?
mariosangiorgio said:
Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?
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Samsung disabled widgets with the secure lockscreen for some reason. There's an Xposed module to re-enable it, but you need the Xposed framework (and root).
I'm not sure about the vibration question.
My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.
mariosangiorgio said:
My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.
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Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?
mariosangiorgio said:
Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
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All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
mariosangiorgio said:
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?
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You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.
GermainZ said:
All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
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Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
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You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.
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Got it. Thanks again for your kind replies!
mariosangiorgio said:
Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
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Applications can now use notification listeners, which allow them to detect new notifications (and when they're cleared) from an app. I think Floating Notifications uses it if you're on 4.3, but it's not exactly what you want.
Yes,unfortunately it's not what I'm looking for. I'll keep checking. I hope new app relying on the new features will be published soon
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I came across a few DashClock extensions which do that, although for specific apps. You might want to try a few and see if this is what you want.
Hangouts DashClock Extension
WhatsApp, Facebook, Viber and LINE (4 different extensions) by Tiger-Workshop
You'll need DashClock for these, of course.
Other than that, there's DynamicNotifications you might be interested in. Not quite what you're looking for, but it might do the trick for now.
DynamicNotifications seems very cool. I'll give it a try
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Just in case you don't read the portal, this DashClock extension does what you want by using the notification listener features, instead of Accessibility services.
Thanks for sharing the link! I'll give it a try. It is very promising
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I tried to use it on my S4 but I cannot set the widget.
This time I can't even disable the lock as I reported in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472070
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Hey,
I am having trouble with applications not showing notifications e.g. whatsapp, tapatalk etc.I was wondering if anyone has had any similar issues on the Android 4.4.2 (nc9)
They only show notifications when I go into the app.
That's an odd one... I'm assuming by NC9 this is referring to the i9505 S4?
Tell us more:
Are you rooted?
Custom rom?
Any Xposed or Notification bar mods?
Privacy mode enabled?
SMS/Call notifications work?
Does this happen on wifi and data?
Any notification replacement apps like for banner notifications, Halo, etc?
Lockscreen mods that have notifications enabled?
Ritchiejoe said:
Hey,
I am having trouble with applications not showing notifications e.g. whatsapp, tapatalk etc.I was wondering if anyone has had any similar issues on the Android 4.4.2 (nc9)
They only show notifications when I go into the app.
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Anybody? :fingers-crossed:
Ritchiejoe said:
Anybody? :fingers-crossed:
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Seriously? Did you miss my post asking you 20 questions some how?
Lmao xD
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es0tericcha0s said:
That's an odd one... I'm assuming by NC9 this is referring to the i9505 S4?
Tell us more:
Are you rooted?
Custom rom?
Any Xposed or Notification bar mods?
Privacy mode enabled?
SMS/Call notifications work?
Does this happen on wifi and data?
Any notification replacement apps like for banner notifications, Halo, etc?
Lockscreen mods that have notifications enabled?
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Sorry I must have missed it. I posted this in the S4 help thread and it wasn't answered there, I must have got the tabs in my browser mixed up.
I'm rooted on Omega V28 but it happens regardless of Rom or whether I'm rooted or not.
Calls/Texts show. Twitter/facebook/whatsapp don't
Happens on both wifi/data
No lock screen mods, notification apps/xposed mods or anything to do with notifications.
Apologies again
I found a few threads with the same issues here and here, but those are still unanswered. So, I'm creating a new thread to know to fix this problem soon.
I want to know how to hide the 2 apps from the notifications from the lockscreen, but not from the actual status bar notification.
The 2 apps, an battery saver and 3g network monitor are essential in the notification but I don't like it being shown all the time in the lockscreen. It also kinda blocks any new notification of other apps like fb, whatsapp, etc.
Any help is appreciated.
Attached the screenshot of the lockscreen.
PS: My first post here so plz let me know if I miss anything.
Go to settings>apps chose the app you want and uncheck show notifications
Then it won't be shown in the notification bar either.
andiling said:
Then it won't be shown in the notification bar either.
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You can disable all notifications from lockscreen but you can't disable specific one unfortunately
That's all what I know
andiling said:
Then it won't be shown in the notification bar either.
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True that. I would like to see it in the notification but not in the lockscreen..
a.hamameh96 said:
You can disable all notifications from lockscreen but you can't disable specific one unfortunately
That's all what I know
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Ok. thanks for the info. Lets hope there would be some patch released in the future by Google.
There is one more bug in the lockscreen in the new Lollipop as one has to swipe-up and then use pattern-lock to unlock the phone. Earlier we have to use pattern-lock only and no swipe-up.
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Ok. thanks for the info. Lets hope there would be some patch released in the future by Google.
There is one more bug in the lockscreen in the new Lollipop as one has to swipe-up and then use pattern-lock to unlock the phone. Earlier we have to use pattern-lock only and no swipe-up.
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It's to surprise your friends or thefts
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I would rather say that's wanted behavior.
I don't know if i'm the only one, but I've got a problem to get notifications working well for Facebook messenger. On my older phone, I received an instant notification when a message was sent to me. Now it can take a while (15-45min or more).. If I go in the app, it's like if the applications was asleep, because it shows no messages. I need to refresh the view and it shows the new message(s). I don't know if it's a p9000 bug or Android 6.0?
I try stock rom and Eragon v 4.8, same problem.
Did you try to disable background task cleaner?
paw-e-l said:
Did you try to disable background task cleaner?
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Where can I find this ?
In Eragon it's directly in settings under Smart Assistant section.
thanks I whitelisted Messenger&Facebook, i'll test today.
it's working now thanks!
Cool It's better to disable whole bg task cleaner.
Yesterday I installed MIUI 11 9.9.24 Beta ROM on my India K20 Pro phone. Below are my observations and feedback.
I was on MIUI 10 10.3.5 India ROM.
Installed Beta MIUI 11 by wiping Data, System, Cache. It is smooth overall and I find display better(it may be due to new font, don't know)
Observations:
1. Fonts are really good.
2. System Launcher is bit off. Swiping up opens up their own Media Center thing. (May be due to one of the launcher layout I selected while initial setup). Installed Poco Launcher, but it blacks out sometimes when going Home from an app. However it fixes once you perform recent app gesture and then back.
3. Downloaded 0.5 MB Google related chinese file from GetApps which install Google Services. Installed, but later while installing other Google stuff from inside that downloaded app, Google Framework failed to install.
4. Downloaded Google Play Store from GetApps. The installed all the apps.
5. Main issue was with Google Contact sync which was fixed by first installing Contact Sync 10 and then contacts. Opened app properties and given all the permissions. Restarted, it started working. May not work initially, but started working somehow.
6. Speaker sound is now better. It was very loud and uncomfortable earlier, but now it is much better.
7. Lockscreen notifications can now be expanded to read the content(which was not possible earlier)
8. System Wide Dark mode doesn't work all the times for non System apps.
9. Ambient Display has so many new options.
10. Samsung Routine like Tasks where you can schedule different system settings. Like lower down brightness to 0% between a time frame, etc.
11. Double tap to sleep doesn't work. Although double tap to wake works.
Overall it can be used as daily driver and I am loving it...
Great Explanation. Seems like a good build for a beta.
Can you do 1 thing for me?
I always wondered what are the new options for NEW Notifications when screen locked. Does it lit only the notification content like in pure andoird, or some other useless animations?
Can you post some screenshots of those options and feedback?
Thanks!
You can disable there media search when swiping up in the settings , I had the same issues as you with not all the Google frame work service not installing mainly contact sync , but overall miui 11 not to bad.
Hello, I'm on xiaomi.eu 10.4.6 and when i try to install the 9.9.24 miui 11 get an error zip treble could not fetch or install. I've whipped everything and tried 3 times but with the same result. I have rafael. Any advice?
zhosi said:
Hello, I'm on xiaomi.eu 10.4.6 and when i try to install the 9.9.24 miui 11 get an error zip treble could not fetch or install. I've whipped everything and tried 3 times but with the same result. I have rafael. Any advice?
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Hope below may help, not sure though
Unzip the file, delete Compatibility zip(not sure whether I am spelling the name correct), then rezip and flash.
GTRanushka said:
Great Explanation. Seems like a good build for a beta.
Can you do 1 thing for me?
I always wondered what are the new options for NEW Notifications when screen locked. Does it lit only the notification content like in pure andoird, or some other useless animations?
Can you post some screenshots of those options and feedback?
Thanks!
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Actually I am using Ambient display, there it just put a small icon below clock with notification sound. Once I click on the icon, it go back to lock screen where I can expand that notification to read the content. You can also have different fancy screen glow animations when notification comes with Ambient Display
Will update you about your query in a while
Did u manage to get the ambient display notification working (the fancy glowing animation)? Coz i didn't even after enabling it.
Another thing issue is with app like WhatsApp being killed in background even after setting it as no restriction on battery saving and autostart app. U end up not getting any notification at all unless u open the app itself.
MIUI 11 9.9.24
flawlessx92 said:
Did u manage to get the ambient display notification working? Coz i didn't even after enabling it.
Another thing issue is with app like WhatsApp being killed in background even after setting it as no restriction on battery saving and autostart app. U end up not getting any notification at all unless u open the app itself.
MIUI 11 9.9.24
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While on Ambient Display, icon appears below the clock with notification sound.(not sure if you are expecting more than this).
Whatsapp notifications are ok for me...Battery Saver set to MIUI Battery Saver...May be I am not using much apps or the apps which are consuming more battery in the background. That way Battery Saver doesn't come into picture I guess.
Seems like Working great.But ther was a problem with Gcam and Other applications like viper4andriod were not working properly in 10.4.8 which is based on Q . Can you do me a favour can u check whether those apps are working properly and give me a reply
The icon appear as usual for the ambient display. MIUI 11 suppose to add animation feature for ambient display upon new incoming notifications to rectify the issue of K20 Pro design having hidden led notification on the top of the phone. This is the one that im referring to as not working
Ive attached pic of the animation which i meant
thanks man for review and testing....one question, how about 75hz screen refresh rate mod? thanks bro
can I use it as a daily driver?
flawlessx92 said:
The icon appear as usual for the ambient display. MIUI 11 suppose to add animation feature for ambient display upon new incoming notifications to rectify the issue of K20 Pro design having hidden led notification on the top of the phone. This is the one that im referring to as not working
Ive attached pic of the animation which i meant
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Animation effects are working for Notifications on Ambient Display
efakkawy98 said:
can I use it as a daily driver?
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Just noticed Gmail is not auto updating...Not sure whether its OS problem or Gmail app. But rest all the notifications be it wtsapp or sms are working fine. Update: Working now...seems like network issue.
I am using it without any problem.
Apps please
mannu_in said:
Just noticed Gmail is not auto updating...Not sure whether its OS problem or Gmail app. But rest all the notifications be it wtsapp or sms are working fine. Update: Working now...seems like network issue.
I am using it without any problem.
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Can you please link or mention the proper names of the apps you used I couldn't find any of the apps you mentioned.
3. Downloaded 0.5 MB Google related chinese file from GetApps which install Google Services. Installed, but later while installing other Google stuff from inside that downloaded app, Google Framework failed to install.
4. Downloaded Google Play Store from GetApps. The installed all the apps.
5. Main issue was with Google Contact sync which was fixed by first installing Contact Sync 10 and then contacts. Opened app properties and given all the permissions. Restarted, it started working. May not work initially, but started working somehow.
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mannu_in said:
Actually I am using Ambient display, there it just put a small icon below clock with notification sound. Once I click on the icon, it go back to lock screen where I can expand that notification to read the content. You can also have different fancy screen glow animations when notification comes with Ambient Display
Will update you about your query in a while
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Thanks. So basically the notification text wont show in ambient display? Like in oneplus/pixel?
efakkawy98 said:
Can you please link or mention the proper names of the apps you used I couldn't find any of the apps you mentioned.
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Download Google contact sync 10 from apk mirror, just Google the key words u will find link.
GTRanushka said:
Thanks. So basically the notification text wont show in ambient display? Like in oneplus/pixel?
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No, it's just a symbol on the ambient screen display
sanjib734 said:
Download Google contact sync 10 from apk mirror, just Google the key words u will find link.
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Yeah, I found them... everything is working fine.
and the default font is so awesome