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While there are many how to threads on pretty much everything, theres not much going into deeper details. While ofc any of us wishing to learn has google and can find many answers, its just from here the the answers mean a little more. My fear is, my self included, is that there are many of us with misconceptions on some of the inner workings or just bad knowledge. Just to be clear this is to clear up exactly what some of the terms we hear and use actually mean as well as some of the practices.
For example
Regarding Odin
How many partitions exist on the internal memory, and what are there functions.
What exactly does the PIT file do.
What all does the TAR file contain (full package) and how does it write to the partitions.
What is the csc option?
What else should we know about odin?
Why has nobody removed the phone option for our purposes here?
Voodoo, exactly what partition is it changing and how is it actually converting.
Which cache is used for what and where is it stored?
Just some things off the top of my head that i don't have a complete understanding of and wish to learn more. Again for this thread at least i am looking for some details from people that actually do understand. There are many of us that can spew out answers to these and more that are just close to right without a full comprehension.
This is for learning and not just getting enough to get you through a problem as im sure many of us are guilty of
I found the same problem when I first got into Android but this is more a forum for developers who know what they are doing.
MattRussNC said:
How many partitions exist on the internal memory, and what are there functions.
What exactly does the PIT file do.
What all does the TAR file contain (full package) and how does it write to the partitions.
What is the csc option?
What else should we know about odin?
Why has nobody removed the phone option for our purposes here?
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There are I think about 10-11 partitions on the internal storage. You have /system, /data, /cache, /dbdata, modem, bootloader, secondary bootloader, kernel, recovery, there is a partition dedicated for OTA updates, and another one as well, though I'm not sure what it is for. There may be more as well.
The PIT file is the partition information table, which tells Odin where each partition starts/ends.
The TAR file can contain any of a number of items for flashing, and they'll get flashed to the appropriate partitions based on their name.
factoryfs.rfs=/system
dbdata.rfs=/dbdata
cache.rfs=/cache
movinand.bin=/data
param.lfs=the .lfs partition, not sure exactly what it does
boot.bin=bootloader
sbl.bin=secondary bootloader
modem.bin=modem/radio/baseband
zImage=kernel
recovery.bin=recovery kernel
Adding a md5 sum to the tar file and renaming it to .tar.md5 allows for built in error correction.
Not sure what csc mode is, but I've never seen it used, so I'd avoid it.
Odin is a tool created by Samsung as far as I'm aware for flashing their phones. No one has the source, or knows exactly where the tool came from, so that is also likely why no one has removed the phone button, because you'd have to HEX edit the executable to remove it, and there is no telling what effects it may have, so it's better to just leave it alone.
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Voodoo, exactly what partition is it changing and how is it actually converting.
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Voodoo converts the primary partitions of the phone, /system, /data, /cache, /dbdata. It converts by backing up the data to a file, reformatting the partition, then restoring the data from the file. If it didn't backup the data, it'd just be formatting the system.
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Which cache is used for what and where is it stored?
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Cache is similar to a temporary storage area for files that are created and used frequently/semi-frequently. The files there aren't fully needed, but help speed up the system.
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I found the same problem when I first got into Android but this is more a forum for developers who know what they are doing.
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Well I do believe I would have to argue that most people that visit this forum knows what they are doing. While a great many here including myself that knows enough to get by, we would all be better off knowing more. Also since this is q&a forum I thought it would be a good place to ask and learn more then "how do root"
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Had no idea there was that many partitions. What was the reason that radios couldn't be flashed to the proper partition along with everything else? (as in why we always have to flash the modems on thee own)
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Had no idea there was that many partitions. What was the reason that radios couldn't be flashed to the proper partition along with everything else? (as in why we always have to flash the modems on thee own)
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No one is completely sure how to flash a full modem file via recovery, and it may not be possible without using stock recovery. The only tried and true method that is know for flashing full modem.bin files is Odin (and Heimdall), so that's why it's always a separate step.
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Well I do believe I would have to argue that most people that visit this forum knows what they are doing. While a great many here including myself that knows enough to get by, we would all be better off knowing more. Also since this is q&a forum I thought it would be a good place to ask and learn more then "how do root"
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I think you misinterpreted my post. I'm just saying I also was looking for the same information you want but it didn't seem that the people in the know wanted to explain all the details you're looking for. It seems in your case someone at least tried to answer some of you questions, which is great.
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I think you misinterpreted my post. I'm just saying I also was looking for the same information you want but it didn't seem that the people in the know wanted to explain all the details you're looking for. It seems in your case someone at least tried to answer some of you questions, which is great.
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People are much more likely to answer questions when they're posted in the correct section. You also tend to get questions answered if you join IRC and ask things, but don't expect to get everything handed to you, there is likely to be some work/searching on your own part as well.
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People are much more likely to answer questions when they're posted in the correct section. You also tend to get questions answered if you join IRC and ask things, but don't expect to get everything handed to you, there is likely to be some work/searching on your own part as well.
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Thank you for the answers to those first off. My apologies if i placed this in the wrong section, i thought this part was open for these types of questions.
Im sure irc is a great place to learn a great deal, however i fear asking in irc things that have been discussed many times. While searching will absolutely give you a very basic knowledge it is often repeated from those that don't fully understand it and may have it a little off. This isnt a cut at anybody as it should fall to the lower tiers to answer to the common issues that arise. However that kind of information is normally only good for solving a problem. For when there is no trouble and one wishes to know more about what they just did instead of how they did it, things fall short. Just about every member here can root, cwm flash, and odin but how many of us truly understand the process in detail. i know i dont, but i would like to. Thats what im looking for in this thread. Not how to do what we do, but whats taking place underneath.
Thanks again for the answers so far.
if this is in the wrong area and doesn't getting removed please let it fade.
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People are much more likely to answer questions when they're posted in the correct section. You also tend to get questions answered if you join IRC and ask things, but don't expect to get everything handed to you, there is likely to be some work/searching on your own part as well.
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You're right about IRC being the place where questions may be answered. As far as searching, I can tell you a lot of the technical details aren't answered here.
MattRussNC said:
Thank you for the answers to those first off. My apologies if i placed this in the wrong section, i thought this part was open for these types of questions.
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This is the proper place for questions. The problem is that many people will post their questions similar to this in the development forum, and that just gets the thread no where. And searching for technical info is difficult because usually you get flooded with useless stuff in your search.
imnuts said:
There are I think about 10-11 partitions on the internal storage. You have /system, /data, /cache, /dbdata, modem, bootloader, secondary bootloader, kernel, recovery, there is a partition dedicated for OTA updates, and another one as well, though I'm not sure what it is for. There may be more as well.
The PIT file is the partition information table, which tells Odin where each partition starts/ends.
The TAR file can contain any of a number of items for flashing, and they'll get flashed to the appropriate partitions based on their name.
factoryfs.rfs=/system
dbdata.rfs=/dbdata
cache.rfs=/cache
movinand.bin=/data
param.lfs=the .lfs partition, not sure exactly what it does
boot.bin=bootloader
sbl.bin=secondary bootloader
modem.bin=modem/radio/baseband
zImage=kernel
recovery.bin=recovery kernel
Adding a md5 sum to the tar file and renaming it to .tar.md5 allows for built in error correction.
Not sure what csc mode is, but I've never seen it used, so I'd avoid it.
Odin is a tool created by Samsung as far as I'm aware for flashing their phones. No one has the source, or knows exactly where the tool came from, so that is also likely why no one has removed the phone button, because you'd have to HEX edit the executable to remove it, and there is no telling what effects it may have, so it's better to just leave it alone.
Voodoo converts the primary partitions of the phone, /system, /data, /cache, /dbdata. It converts by backing up the data to a file, reformatting the partition, then restoring the data from the file. If it didn't backup the data, it'd just be formatting the system.
Cache is similar to a temporary storage area for files that are created and used frequently/semi-frequently. The files there aren't fully needed, but help speed up the system.
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I was wondering some of those terms my self.
thanks for all the Great info,
One thing been bugging me lately. Most likely every one has experienced the need to either wipe the caches more then once or flash multiple times for success. How is it that wiping cache is not 100%. Why does flashing a rom more then once sometimes yield different results when done the exact same way?
i believe the phone button in odin is to flash radio/modem alone
which we unfortunately do not have (yet)
the phone button and other buttons are still there because the gsm ones, like the captivate and vibrant, are using it
jk0l said:
i believe the phone button in odin is to flash radio/modem alone
which we unfortunately do not have (yet)
the phone button and other buttons are still there because the gsm ones, like the captivate and vibrant, are using it
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I've only flashed the modem/radio by itself in the PDA button like everything else. As far as I know, we only flash things for the Fascinate through the PDA button (except of course for the atlas v2.2 PIT file.) That includes ROMs bundled in an ODIN package, modems/radios, and recoveries.
jk0l said:
i believe the phone button in odin is to flash radio/modem alone
which we unfortunately do not have (yet)
the phone button and other buttons are still there because the gsm ones, like the captivate and vibrant, are using it
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The phone button is for completely different devices, likely their regular, non-smartphone, devices. It is not meant for flashing anything for the Fascinate.
Could have found a better place i guess but this will do. Noticed we are still without a FAQ aside from the outdated one as well as the guide. I thought perhaps some discussion on what should be included in a FAQ was in order to fill the gap.
Simple basic guides are important and have there place, however as one can use links to more details there is no reason not to have a comprehensive guide.
Just a thought. Most of us know the basics of what root is and how to gain that access. Most of us also has no idea exactly how get root manually without following instructions either. So what i was hoping for in the next guide
Q= What is root ?
A= Super user access needed for apps that need more control over your device like titanium backup
For more information click here
Then give the full out dev definition including the details that require reading up to understand. For those that want to learn.
Q= How do i root ?
A= Flash this package in odin (and give the dl link as well as a odin guide link)
For more information click here
Have the full process laid out by what needs to be done in shell without giving the copy and paste instructions. For those that want to understand what they are doing more than just doing it.
Just thought it would be nice if our next guide could be useful to more then just beginners.
I am about to make the plunge and install CM7 since it appears acceleration for video is working. However, I read somewhere that I cannot access the internal memory from CM7. Can someone elaborate on this?
Are you talking about flashing to internal or running from SD? Also, have you (or Barnes and Noble) repartitioned your NT?
I have repatitioned it myself and I was going to install it internally.
titanshadow said:
I have repatitioned it myself and I was going to install it internally.
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You will have access to the full storage of your NT.
Not being able to use the internal storage of your NT only applies to the SD version of CM7, where it is replaced with a smaller partition of the SD card.
So, I'm about to try - I have a full backup of the device as it is now so, I can go back. However, I read that the google apps are separate now but I can't find a link. It says look in the OP, I take that to mean the "Original Post", not sure which post that is, I thought I was looking in the original post.
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So, I'm about to try - I have a full backup of the device as it is now so, I can go back. However, I read that the google apps are separate now but I can't find a link. It says look in the OP, I take that to mean the "Original Post", not sure which post that is, I thought I was looking in the original post.
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Here you go: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
Happy flashing!
Solar.Plexus said:
Here you go: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
Happy flashing!
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What do you mean they are separate now? I installed CM7 and it came with Gapps... what im I missing here?
Edit: Oh nvm I get it now.
The original cm7 release did come with gapps I believe. However, as per Google's policies, they were removed. Google mandates that their apps that are separate from the Android OS not be included in custom roms.
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Wow, alright - worked like a charm... Thanks.
Is there anyone out there who is willing to point me in the right direction for re purposing my retired Eris (RIP 02-12-13)? Hoping it can be a tool for learning (still in A- shape), instead of a paperweight! I have been doing some reading, but downloading is another story, mostly 404s out there now.
P.S. First post in any forum ever, just a humble android noob searching for knowledge and stable Roms from those who offer, sorry if I have posted this in the wrong place, obviously I have posted at the wrong time! A million thanks in advance to anyone with good news or advice!
DB73 said:
Is there anyone out there who is willing to point me in the right direction for re purposing my retired Eris (RIP 02-12-13)? Hoping it can be a tool for learning (still in A- shape), instead of a paperweight! I have been doing some reading, but downloading is another story, mostly 404s out there now.
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What is it you are looking for? I have copies of a lot of ROMs.
doogald said:
What is it you are looking for? I have copies of a lot of ROMs.
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Hello, and thank you, I am happy to here some good news. I am obviously new to this, but I love to try out different OSs and remaster them the way I see fit. I have just not taken the plunge with android. Since I have never installed any, it's hard to say witch ones I would like best. I would take any ROMs I could get. I figure I can experiment and learn with my Eris, then re purpose it for my son to play games, take pictures etc.
P.S. I downloaded the Jcase / Eclipse3 one click root. Is this the method you would recommend for getting su privileges? I would love to hear your preference on an easy and up to date rooting method. My Eris is currently bone stock with official 2.1, and up to date according to it.
DB73 said:
Hello, and thank you, I am happy to here some good news. I am obviously new to this, but I love to try out different OSs and remaster them the way I see fit. I have just not taken the plunge with android. Since I have never installed any, it's hard to say witch ones I would like best. I would take any ROMs I could get. I figure I can experiment and learn with my Eris, then re purpose it for my son to play games, take pictures etc.
P.S. I downloaded the Jcase / Eclipse3 one click root. Is this the method you would recommend for getting su privileges? I would love to hear your preference on an easy and up to date rooting method. My Eris is currently bone stock with official 2.1, and up to date according to it.
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Yes, if you can find the JCase 1-click root, that will root the phone just fine.
There is another method very well documented here: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/127861-universal-eris-root-dummies.html (which also walks you through installing for your first custom ROM.)
I have some ROMs in my Dropbox if you can't find links.
xtrSENSE (stock 2.1 Eris ROM, rooted): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/220420/Eris/xtrSENSE/xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip
Workshed's GSB: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvpuv4sbwmun43f/GSB.v4.5-final_ODEXED_CM7.2-Eris.zip
CondemnedSoul's CM7.2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1irvshpg7u7trr/CCM7_Eris_V24_RIP.zip
The last two are CyanogenMod Gingerbread ROMs. I think that GSB requires that you also flash Google apps in order to get the market. If so, you can get it from CyanogenMod here: http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
(So, if you need to flash gapps, you go into Recovery. Wipe data/factory reset. Flash the ROM. Flash google apps. THEN restart the phone.)
doogald said:
Yes, if you can find the JCase 1-click root, that will root the phone just fine.
Just realized why it wouldn't let me post, because of the links in my reply, :silly:
Thank You, I downloaded the ROMs. The link for gapps is dead though. Was that just needed for Workshed's GSB or also for CM7.2?
I have a few questions to throw out there:
1. I was thinking about doing another factory reset, my attempt to have a clean recovery. What will non-activation after boot with no service do?
2. Does vanilla = fast, lightweight, performance, more partition space for user? If so, do you have any recommendation / or a link?
3. Rumored Jellybean for the Eris, love to find the latest build, is it still available? Links point here (XDA) but no download.
4. Is there any way to get google play instead of market working on the Eris?
(((Thanks again for everything)))
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DB73 said:
Thank You, I downloaded the ROMs. The link for gapps is dead though. Was that just needed for Workshed's GSB or also for CM7.2?
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Try this one: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
CondemnedSoul's includes the Google apps already and does not require a separate flash of the gapps zip file.
Ok, I just checked: GSB does NOT require google apps, either; they are already included. You can ignore that step.
I have a few questions to throw out there:
1. I was thinking about doing another factory reset, my attempt to have a clean recovery. What will non-activation after boot with no service do?
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Oh, good question. I would avoid it if you can. The Eris will insist that you activate. However, if you follow the prompt to activate and then press the disconnect button as soon as you hear it ring, it will try activation again two more times. If you disconnect after hearing the ring those two times as well, the phone will give up on activation and allow to continue with setup.
2. Does vanilla = fast, lightweight, performance, more partition space for user? If so, do you have any recommendation / or a link?
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Not necessarily. In my experience, xtrSENSE is fastest, but the GB ROMs are just fine. You may not notice the difference. However, xtrSENSE has a method called cache2cache that frees up more storage space or user applications and data. If you install a lot of apps, xtrSENSE may give you more space.
That said, there are disadvantages, including missing out on apps that do not run on android 2.1.
There is something called xtrcache2cache that you can flash on the GB ROMs to give you the same sort of space. I'll try to find a link.w
3. Rumored Jellybean for the Eris, love to find the latest build, is it still available? Links point here (XDA) but no download.
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I've never tried it, and I can't believe it runs with any sort of decent performance anyway.
4. Is there any way to get google play instead of market working on the Eris?
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Not on android 2.1, but the two gingerbread ROMs will update the market to the play store.
xtrcache2cache is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924562
The download link there seems to work.
Copy that file (xtrCMCache2cache.zip) to your SD card. This is only for the Gingerbread ROMs - it's not necessary for xtrSENSE.
Restart the phone to recovery. If you have already flashed one of those ROMs, simply flash that xtrCMCache2cache.zip file - do not wipe data or Dalvik cache first. Restart the phone, and you'll have probably about 20-30 MB more free storage space for apps and data.
If you have not already flashed GSB or CondemnedSoul's, do this:
- restart in Recovery
- wipe menu
- wipe data/factory reset
- main menu
- flash a zip file, and choose GSB or Condemned
- flash a zip file, and choose xtrCMCache2cache.zip
- restart the phone
doogald said:
xtrcache2cache is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924562
OK, I will read what I have gathered one or two more times before taking the plunge. I am thinking of using the Jcase method, it seems pretty much idiot proof. I have the file and ROMs stored on my PC, and now on a CD as well, just so I don't loose them. If I have this right, I will:
Pre-Steps:
Copy the Jcase one click root file to an empty SD card, install a file explorer app capable of launching it, take a deep breath, here we go Or maybe I have to copy to android filesystem first?
1. Execute Jcase's one click, and after reboot, I should have the Amon Ra recovery. This is simple, but also the most dangerous part? If this were to fail, it would be similar to a bad BIOS flash. This would brick the phone, if I am understanding this correctly.
2. Then Use the recovery to flash rootme.zip now located on SDCard. Going to use a 2 Gb card from my old LG 8350 (phone before Eris).
3. Do Nand backup of semi clean stock OS. By doing so I will loose the stock recovery for good, meaning no more resets to OG clean?
3.5? On second thought, doing one last reset first would remove all user data with my name and credentials. It may be wise to do this, as it will eventually be in the hands of a 5 year old. This would prevent accidental purchases, I think! On the other hand, if I ever break or loose my new phone and need a temp phone, I could keep this image (as is) to use temporarily with Verison until I get a replacement! I can only choose one of these options. I guess the latter is best, and use only a custom ROM for my son to play with. Hopefully I can temporarily disable or somehow limit su before giving it too him.
4. Do Nand backup of original official image, and put somewhere safe, like 2 places + on CD then remove from SD for more available space.
5. Flash one of the 3 downloaded ROMs and also xtrCMCache2cache if desired to desire-c
6. I assume that appstoSD is something I would need to download now, then add after previous steps, if I feel the need!
7. Then its off to test land! I hope I understand this correctly. The one step I have missed is definitely very important. I did not verify the MD5 on Jcase's one click. In fact I don't even remember where I downloaded it from. Truth being told, I have never manually done a MD5 verification! I guess I have one more step that I absolutely need to learn as it is much more important in Android, especially for recovery!
Edit: I have re downloaded the file from here (XDA), did not see a sum to compare it to? I hope the file still is OK!
Edit # 2 I downloaded a MD5 calculator and this is the output (F34FECFFB985553B68D66F6AC1EF27D3) for the erisone010.apk file
Another big thank you Doogald, If I have something wrong here, please, feel free to beat it into me now, before I do something stupid!
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DB73 said:
Pre-Steps:
Copy the Jcase one click root file to an empty SD card, install a file explorer app capable of launching it, take a deep breath, here we go Or maybe I have to copy to android filesystem first?
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No, Your regular SD card is fine. You do need to enable third-party app installs; you'll find that setting in settings->applications.
1. Execute Jcase's one click, and after reboot, I should have the Amon Ra recovery. This is simple, but also the most dangerous part? If this were to fail, it would be similar to a bad BIOS flash. This would brick the phone, if I am understanding this correctly.
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Yes. You must restart the phone as if you wanted to make a phone call. Many people get too eager and try to get into Recovery before full restarting.
I can't believe that flashing Amon_RA is all terribly dangerous. There are ways to recover. In fact, I have not seen anybody report a brick after running the JCase 1-click. I'm sure that it will be fine.
2. Then Use the recovery to flash rootme.zip now located on SDCard. Going to use a 2 Gb card from my old LG 8350 (phone before Eris).
3. Do Nand backup of semi clean stock OS. By doing so I will loose the stock recovery for good, meaning no more resets to OG clean?
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You *could* do the Nand Backup before running rootme.zip. Actually, you only really need to run rootme.zip if you want to do something with root with the stock Android you have now. Some people may, for example, install the application Titanium Backup Pro (which requires root) and batch backup all user apps (menu->batch and choose to run that option from the list) and then, after installing a new custom ROM, reinstall Titanium from the market/play store and then batch restore all missing apps and data. It's a very powerful way to get the phone running all of your apps and data without reinstalling from scratch.
That brings up one more thing: if you decide to install xtrSENSE, you do not need to do a factory reset if you want to keep all of your apps and data. Of course, if you want a fresh start you may, but xtrSENSE will keep all of your apps and data and give you a faster Eris with more room for apps and data.
Also, it *is* possible to get stock recovery back, though not without losing all of you data. There is a ROM called Flashback_21v2 that will bring back stock recovery and an unrooted Eris if you wish. The phone will act as if it was never rooted. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792026
That would be a good thing to keep on your phone, just in case. (Though I have to say that I am hosting the location of those files on my website and I have no plans to stop doing so, so they should be around for a while...) You'll probably be fine with the "no radio" version, but if you can spare the space on your computer, (that's a bit of a joke; the files are small), I'd download both.
3.5? On second thought, doing one last reset first would remove all user data with my name and credentials. It may be wise to do this, as it will eventually be in the hands of a 5 year old. This would prevent accidental purchases, I think!
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In that case, you DEFINITELY want to wipe data, even with xtrSENSE!
On the other hand, if I ever break or loose my new phone and need a temp phone, I could keep this image (as is) to use temporarily with Verison until I get a replacement! I can only choose one of these options.
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No, you can do both. Do a Nand Backup of the phone after you root it, which will be stored on the SD card. Wipe data/factory reset and you can installa ROM and then always go back into recover and Nand restore what you backed up originally to get your phone back as it was when you ran the backup. Familiar with Norton Ghost for Windows PCs? That's what Nand backup and restore does - it takes a full snapshot of your phone as it is, and when you restore, it's as if you had just turned off your phone for a long time - it's back to the way it was at the time you made the backup. You can have multiple backups stored - as many as will fit on the SD card.
6. I assume that appstoSD is something I would need to download now, then add after previous steps, if I feel the need!
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Well... xtrSENSE support apps2sd as it is, and there are scripts to turn that functionality on. The GB ROMs support using the Android-native moving of apps to sd, so I would avoid apps2sd for them.
7. Then its off to test land! I hope I understand this correctly. The one step I have missed is definitely very important. I did not verify the MD5 on Jcase's one click. In fact I don't even remember where I downloaded it from. Truth being told, I have never manually done a MD5 verification! I guess I have one more step that I absolutely need to learn as it is much more important in Android, especially for recovery!
Edit: I have re downloaded the file from here (XDA), did not see a sum to compare it to? I hope the file still is OK!
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The MD5 I have for 1click is f34fecffb985553b68d66f6ac1ef27d3
HOWEVER, can I suggest instead that you use the 1-click root here, prepared by Scary Alien: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html
If you look at the bottom of the first post, "Scenario 5", there is another version of 1click with a better version of Amon_RA (that allows you to use the hardware keys to navigate recovery, rather than just the trackball; sometimes the trackball doesn't work in the original Amon_RA). That version I guarantee is safe, and Scary Alien has the MD5 right there.
I am guessing multi-quote is what I should have tried on this instead of deleting?
OK, running 1 click directly from from SD card. Third-party apps ticked on before hand, check.
After running 1 click, do normal restart, then shutdown, then go into recovery via vol / end start up.
No bricks reported, that is very good news. Also good to hear that there may be a procedure for un-bricking in the unlikely event!
My Eris already has already has all apps removed, I tried to make it as clean and small as possible. Just looked at the xtrSENSE page and copied some tips, sounds nice and fast, liking that!
Awesome, I downloaded all 3 including Cupcake, in case I want to remember what that was like.
I did exactly that, downloaded both.
I will give this some extra thought before giving it to my son.
I have never used Norton Ghost, but I have used Macrium Reflect, Seagate Disk Wizard, Acronis etc. I get the image/snapshot thing. I plan to store backups in other locations, then copy back to SD if and when needed.
Just did some reading on the xtrSENSE page about aps2sd, guess I will do some more reading about native moving of apps to sd soon.
The MD5 I have matches yours. I downloaded MD5 Calculator and I guess it works.
After reading the page including "Scenario 5" I absolutely agree. I downloaded it, and will use the "scary alien" modded version with the added functionality. Thank you very much for pointing this out. Looks like no change in the simple execution besides the app/file to run, very nice!
Doogald, I can clearly see that you go out of your way to help others to say the least, I am sure its appreciated by more than just me, Thanks!
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I will give this some extra thought before giving it to my son.
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Hey, one other thing: CondemnedSoul posted a script that you can run that disables the mobile radio, so you can make the device WiFi only. It's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216571
I have to say that I have never tried it, but it seems from the replies in that thread that many have, successfully.
Jelly Bean build anyone?
This may be redundant, but does anyone have a copy of the eris jelly bean rom laying around? Just found my old rooted eris with cyanogenmod and I would like to try jelly bean or ICS.
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This may be redundant, but does anyone have a copy of the eris jelly bean rom laying around? Just found my old rooted eris with cyanogenmod and I would like to try jelly bean or ICS.
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Of course it isn't redundant, in fact this maintains the forum active, well a bit.
Here is the Jellybean Rom you requested, it is from MongooseHelix's build. It has a different Gapps package from what MongooseHelix actually established but I assume no issues may occur. :highfive:
https://copy.com/TgfFHxTqOHPJ
Hello everyone hope you are all good.
Please could someone help me out? Yes im a noob I like to tinker with my phones but im a little stuck. I recently went and updated my phone to 4.2.2 but didnt like the way it set the file system up. eg emulating sd cards for multi user's and also the fact it changed the internal storage from sdcard to sdcard0.
Ok heres the problem I didnt make any sort of backup before the update (yes I know im stupid) . All I want to do is get the phones file system back to the way it was on 4.1.2 eg no emulated sd and the internal storage to be sdcard.
I've since gone back to stock 4.1.2 via Odin after using megawipe via the cwm recovery.
But this didnt fix it :crying: .
If anyone can help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry if ileft out anything you need to know but new to this never had to ask for help
use search, there's an exact same thread from a couple of days ago
you could use Root explorer to get your files back but seems you screwed up the phone :/
slimboy77 said:
I've since gone back to stock 4.1.2 via Odin after using megawipe via the cwm recovery.
But this didnt fix it :crying: .
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what didn't it fix?
After restoring to 4.1.2 it didnt fix the file system setup my internal storage is still called sdcard0, and instead of the normal path its storage/sdcsrd0 ??
how does that matter?
slimboy77 said:
After restoring to 4.1.2 it didnt fix the file system setup my internal storage is still called sdcard0, and instead of the normal path its storage/sdcsrd0 ??
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Read the basic faqs and guides first .
jje
Matters to me cos when I download and install an app I like to know where its going and the ability to move them to my external sdcard if need be.
Its down to personal taste at the end of the day... I didnt like 4.2.2 cos of the whole multi user mess. I thought that by joining here someone might be able to point me in the right direction . What controls the way the files and folders are sorted out.?
you are not able to move your files to external SD? you never mentioned it
Ive since gone back to 4.1.2 stock, still not able to move apps to the external sd cos after flashing 4.2.2 it messed up the file system. Even aftet flashing back its still the same
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Move apps? How were you doing that?
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Did you actually return to stock or did you flash / restore rooted stock?
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Was moving apps to external sd via GL to SD app. Was all working fine until flashing 4.2.2 which decided it would change where it put files and apps.
I used CWM recovery to use megawipe then odin to put 4.1.2 stock back on .
If anyone has a guide to megawipe then reflash without odin please let me know.
Atm im on 4.1.2 unrooted. :banghead:
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Also if there is a guide needs to noob friendly lol
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in the same boat, I noticed my sdcard sppears wiped but isnt wiped. I hope people saying search etc. are not deliberatly witholding the answer because that isnt nice.
if the same question was asked 2 days ago in the same way why does this thread appear on google but the other doesnt.
I did this whilst connected to adb (with it booted in recovery)
Code:
adb shell
cd /data/media/0
mv * ../
cd ..
rm -rf 0
Also tho I had to remove duplicate folders from the /data/media first or the mv will fail. I am surprised no function has been added to recovery apps yet for this. Or maybe they think noone will ever downgrade from 4.2 (I think 4.2 is a bad version of android).
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in the same boat, I noticed my sdcard sppears wiped but isnt wiped. I hope people saying search etc. are not deliberatly witholding the answer because that isnt nice.
if the same question was asked 2 days ago in the same way why does this thread appear on google but the other doesnt.
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The people saying search generally are aware of the answer. In regards to /data/media/0, I wrote a thread on it and its in general in "sticky roll-up thread" which everyone is expected to read.
However it has since been determined that the OP's problem is completely different.
OP reports storage/sdcard0 which has in itself nothing to do with 4.2. All aosp roms use storage/sdcard0 for internal and storage/sdcard1 for external. Unless the OP Missed a / and means storage/sdcard/0 which is something all together different. Its a tricky one. Its hard to resolve without seeing it
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well the forum is fragmented and as a result stickes are easy to miss.
eg. I did check the FAQ on Q&A section which didnt have the info, I will check the post you mentioned as am curious of course.
chrcol said:
well the forum is fragmented and as a result stickes are easy to miss.
eg. I did check the FAQ on Q&A section which didnt have the info, I will check the post you mentioned as am curious of course.
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I agree it is fragmented. I don't see the benefit of separate general and q&a
I think we should have:
Android Development
Android Original Development
Q&A / Guides
Accessories.
But oh well.
As a very last resort could u not hook up to kies software and initialise your phone with mine it resets it back to factory as u 1st took it out of the box surely that would reset it bud
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I agree it is fragmented. I don't see the benefit of separate general and q&a
I think we should have:
Android Development
Android Original Development
Q&A / Guides
Accessories.
But oh well.
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A little Oftopic:
Suggest that to the moderators or someone in power. Either they'll laugh at you (which won't happen IMO) or they think about that, because it would make the searching through xda more easy.
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Hi Guys
Finally rooted my i9300 from the step by step guide on here with Odin.
Now, i've downloaded Titanium and backed up to external SD card which i will also take a copy and save this on the PC.
And now im confused with Nandroid?
At first I thought it was another type of app, but then found that you do it in recovery mod, so I done this, but do not get the same options of what ive seen on the web. Then last night I think I found something that said I need CWM or something like this, and its installed with Odin?
Can someone clear this part up for me please? If I do have to download a type of file, then where would i find this?
I would look at my history, but the Mrs was on this last night buying on the Next sales!!!! so there are reems and reems of crud on my history!!!!!
I dont fancy attempting anything until I have this nandroid backup done.
Many thanks.
Dibbley247 said:
Hi Guys
Finally rooted my i9300 from the step by step guide on here with Odin.
Now, i've downloaded Titanium and backed up to external SD card which i will also take a copy and save this on the PC.
And now im confused with Nandroid?
At first I thought it was another type of app, but then found that you do it in recovery mod, so I done this, but do not get the same options of what ive seen on the web. Then last night I think I found something that said I need CWM or something like this, and its installed with Odin?
Can someone clear this part up for me please? If I do have to download a type of file, then where would i find this?
I would look at my history, but the Mrs was on this last night buying on the Next sales!!!! so there are reems and reems of crud on my history!!!!!
I dont fancy attempting anything until I have this nandroid backup done.
Many thanks.
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Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002953
Instructions on how to install are on post number 2. And since you don't have any custom recovery yet make sure you follow the installation guide with odin.
The pictures there should guide you enough throughout the whole process.
This one should provide all the answers regarding the recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860 it has all the functions of the recovery stated.
I think this is what i'm looking for.
what does it mean in the title *GSM* only?
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Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002953
Instructions on how to install are on post number 2. And since you don't have any custom recovery yet make sure you follow the installation guide with odin.
The pictures there should guide you enough throughout the whole process.
This one should provide all the answers regarding the recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201860 it has all the functions of the recovery stated.
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You must ave posted this as i was writing
Thanks. I will go and take a look now.
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I think this is what i'm looking for.
what does it mean in the title *GSM* only?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719744
That would have helped, but dont think it matters now.
Dibbley247 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719744
That would have helped, but dont think it matters now.
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PhilZ Touch is a much more advance compared to the one you just posted plus it uses the latest CWM build (6.0.3.7) so I recommend that you install the one I posted rather than the original CWM one.
SignetSphere said:
PhilZ Touch is a much more advance compared to the one you just posted plus it uses the latest CWM build (6.0.3.7) so I recommend that you install the one I posted rather than the original CWM one.
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Im currently looking at the one you you have recommended. I was going to post on their thread, but you might be able to answer if your still online?
Like you said, the 2nd post shows instructions, there are 2 parts, 1 to put on an SD card, and the second to go through Odin.
Do they both need to be done, or just 1?
And the link that is given, do I download the most recent ZIP / TAR.MD5 file? v.5.11.2
Thanks for your time!
Dibbley247 said:
Im currently looking at the one you you have recommended. I was going to post on their thread, but you might be able to answer if your still online?
Like you said, the 2nd post shows instructions, there are 2 parts, 1 to put on an SD card, and the second to go through Odin.
Do they both need to be done, or just 1?
And the link that is given, do I download the most recent ZIP / TAR.MD5 file? v.5.11.2
Thanks for your time!
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The most recent one for our S3 is 5.11.2. Download the .tar one and follow the instructions with the odin pictures.
When an update is available you can either flash the cwm zip file through your new custom recovery or use the .tar file and update it using odin.
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The most recent one is for our S3 is 5.11.2. Download the .tar one and follow the instructions with the odin pictures.
When an update is available you can either flash the cwm zip file through your new custom recovery or use the .tar file update it using odin.
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Brilliant. I do have an SD card inserted also, so just wanted to dounke check.
Thanks for being patient!
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The most recent one for our S3 is 5.11.2. Download the .tar one and follow the instructions with the odin pictures.
When an update is available you can either flash the cwm zip file through your new custom recovery or use the .tar file and update it using odin.
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All done and currently backing up - Bum twitching over!
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All done and currently backing up - Bum twitching over!
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Good job. :good: Now be cautious of flashing files because... it's highly addictive :laugh:
Btw since you're already into backups why don't you backup your EFS as well? It's highly important to have one just in case well... something nasty happens.
Have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
You may also be interested on this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
just rooted Galaxy S 3 GT-I9300. Can you please advise, what system apks for blotware are safe to remove. and of course the app to remove those bloatwares.
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just rooted Galaxy S 3 GT-I9300. Can you please advise, what system apks for blotware are safe to remove. and of course the app to remove those bloatwares.
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Im just starting out myself so I dont know, ive read that its best to freeze them than remove them incase you have to put eveything back for warrenty? Whether thats true or not I cant say for sure?
SignetSphere said:
Good job. :good: Now be cautious of flashing files because... it's highly addictive :laugh:
Btw since you're already into backups why don't you backup your EFS as well? It's highly important to have one just in case well... something nasty happens.
Have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
You may also be interested on this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
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I think I need to understand it all netter before I start following bullet points,
I went to do the viper4android and I ned something called busy box??? So now have to look at that!
And some things say to place the folder in the root... but not sure what standard software I can use to view the folders on the phone?
And is all flashing compatable with Odin? How does it know where to out these files?
And lastly, some prerequisites stat to factory wipe and clear before flashing.
Whe things are done like this, do I use titanium to reinnsta precious apps and contacts etc?
Thanks
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just rooted Galaxy S 3 GT-I9300. Can you please advise, what system apks for blotware are safe to remove. and of course the app to remove those bloatwares.
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Don't remove them. Freeze with titanium backup. That way you can always defrost and use again if needed. Not like removing saves you space anyway.
There's a sticky in the themes and apps section about what is safe to "remove".
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Bloatware see sticky in themes and apps
I went to do the viper4android and I ned something called busy box?? >>> Google Play
And some things say to place the folder in the root... but not sure what standard software I can use to view the folders on the phone? >>> FX File explorer from Play
And is all flashing compatable with Odin? How does it know where to out these files? >>> Does not make any sense read the faqs and guides .
Whe things are done like this, do I use titanium to reinnsta precious apps and contacts etc>>> TB does not backup contacts
ive read that its best to freeze them than remove them incase you have to put eveything back for warrenty? Whether thats true or not I cant say for sure
>> Apps are not relevant to warranty factory reset to restore to stock
Basics read first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts .
JJEgan said:
Bloatware see sticky in themes and apps
I went to do the viper4android and I ned something called busy box?? >>> Google Play
>> Apps are not relevant to warranty factory reset to restore to stock
Basics read first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts .
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Sorry, didnt neccesarily mean to say it as though the apps effect it.
And dont know why I thought Titanium backed up contacts etc.
rootSU said:
There's a sticky in the themes and apps section about what is safe to "remove".
Sorry, didn't see that section...checking it out now.
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