Just wanted to see if anyone else has noticed that Google services is causing a substantial drain on their device? For me its using more than my screen (2-3 hours screen on). I've noticed it on the stock deodexed and CleanROM (both clean installs)
Heard updating the Play Store helps, but I'm already on v4.1.10
Thanks
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kkeller87 said:
Just wanted to see if anyone else has noticed that Google services is causing a substantial drain on their device? For me its using more than my screen (2-3 hours screen on). I've noticed it on the stock deodexed and CleanROM (both clean installs)
Heard updating the Play Store helps, but I'm already on v4.1.10
Thanks
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I have the exact same thing on CleanROM as well. I would get about 2 hours and 10 minutes or so of total screen on time, yet Google Services would be sitting up around 65% of total battery usage. I would get idle drain that was terrible. I switched the Hyperdrive this afternoon because of that. I don't know what was causing it but it was absolutely a nightmare. I could watch my battery drop about 20% in an hour which is unacceptable.
Hopefully someone else can chime in on this and to why it's happening. It was only five packages that the system reported as being part of the Google Services as well but I don't remember what they are at this point.
update your google play to 4.1.10 http://phandroid.com/2013/05/29/google-play-store-4-1-10-update-download/
I thought there were other threads about this, but I'm not finding them where I thought. Anyway, make sure your Play Store version is 4.1.10. If it isn't, install that version. Version 4.1.6 has a location bug that consumes more battery than it should - not a lot, but more than necessary. You can find the Play Store version at the bottom of the Settings menu in the app.
Edit: damn chrismyu beat me to it.
OP specifically stated he was on 4.1.10 already. I am also on 4.1.10 but it isn't helping.
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update your google play to 4.1.10 http://phandroid.com/2013/05/29/google-play-store-4-1-10-update-download/
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Seriously? Read more than the first sentence of the original post before replying.
OP, the screen on-time is useless without knowing total on-battery time. If the screen on-time is 2 hours and Google Services used the same amount of battery but the device on-time was 30+ hours...that would be acceptable.
The way the phone reports battery usage is quite odd. I've experienced this Google Services bug a couple times. But now, its near the bottom of the list, whereas this morning it was at the top of the list and had drained 10% in two hours with almost no usage at all. Gsam reports the same results as the OS when checked.
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I have the same issue but with Android Services pushing #1 on my battery usage.
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Seriously? Read more than the first sentence of the original post before replying.
OP, the screen on-time is useless without knowing total on-battery time. If the screen on-time is 2 hours and Google Services used the same amount of battery but the device on-time was 30+ hours...that would be acceptable.
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When it happened to me, I was losing roughly 20% an hour with MAYBE 10 minutes screen-on time in that hour. It curved off here and there, but I would lose an insane amount extremely fast. Ten minutes should net me maybe 3-5% loss on medium brightness. However, I was losing the other 15% simply from it idling in my pocket.
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The way the phone reports battery usage is quite odd. I've experienced this Google Services bug a couple times. But now, its near the bottom of the list, whereas this morning it was at the top of the list and had drained 10% in two hours with almost no usage at all. Gsam reports the same results as the OS when checked.
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I've used GSAM as well to try and figure out some wake locks, as well as using BetterBatteryStats, and I can't seem to narrow it down.
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When it happened to me, I was losing roughly 20% an hour with MAYBE 10 minutes screen-on time in that hour. It curved off here and there, but I would lose an insane amount extremely fast. Ten minutes should net me maybe 3-5% loss on medium brightness. However, I was losing the other 15% simply from it idling in my pocket.
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I've used GSAM as well to try and figure out some wake locks, as well as using BetterBatteryStats, and I can't seem to narrow it down.
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Are these statistics starting from a full battery? Or a partial charge?
The reason I ask is that if it was a partial charge (like it was at 30-40% and you charged it up to 80% and then it was dropping quick) that might not be an accurate read either. It might not have ever been at 80% charge when you unplugged it, and then the meter is just catching up.
20% in 10 minutes is completely impossible to actually do. You could be streaming at full speed and playing the hardest-rendering game on the play store and still get like 3+ hours of battery (which would equate to like 5% every 10 minutes).
Assuming your memory is correct on the figures, there must have been something wrong with the metering of the battery. It's just not possible to burn through that much juice that quickly.
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Seriously? Read more than the first sentence of the original post before replying.
OP, the screen on-time is useless without knowing total on-battery time. If the screen on-time is 2 hours and Google Services used the same amount of battery but the device on-time was 30+ hours...that would be acceptable.
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Didn't see your post before I replied a few minutes ago. I charge my phone nightly. I took it off the charger at 545 AM, and by the time I reached work at 7 I had reached 90% battery. Reported under three minutes of screen time but over ten minutes of awake time under Google Services and several minutes of GPS time.
Is it doing something when I am driving? It doesn't happen every day though... My maps app has location reporting off, history is checked, but I haven't had issues with keeping it on before.
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Are these statistics starting from a full battery? Or a partial charge?
The reason I ask is that if it was a partial charge (like it was at 30-40% and you charged it up to 80% and then it was dropping quick) that might not be an accurate read either. It might not have ever been at 80% charge when you unplugged it, and then the meter is just catching up.
20% in 10 minutes is completely impossible to actually do. You could be streaming at full speed and playing the hardest-rendering game on the play store and still get like 3+ hours of battery (which would equate to like 5% every 10 minutes).
Assuming your memory is correct on the figures, there must have been something wrong with the metering of the battery. It's just not possible to burn through that much juice that quickly.
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I may have mis-typed that, or maybe you misunderstood what I was saying. I mean that in an hour time, with 10 minutes of reported screen-on time, the battery was down 20%. I woke up this morning from having my phone on the charger all night, responded to a few text messages as well as checked my email. That took up about 10 minutes of screen time. Throw my phone in my pocket and head off to work. Look at it again about an hour later and I'm sitting at 81% left on my charge.
I looked at my battery usage at that point, and it showed Google Services sitting at 85% usage, above screen usage as 7 or 8%. So within an hour of being off the charger I had dropped 19%, and only 10 minutes of screen-on time had occurred. The rest of the drain came from Google Services.
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Didn't see your post before I replied a few minutes ago. I charge my phone nightly. I took it off the charger at 545 AM, and by the time I reached work at 7 I had reached 90% battery. Reported under three minutes of screen time but over ten minutes of awake time under Google Services and several minutes of GPS time.
Is it doing something when I am driving? It doesn't happen every day though... My maps app has location reporting off, history is checked, but I haven't had issues with keeping it on before.
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He wasn't talking to you, he was directing that at the people who told you to update your play store to 4.1.10, when you clearly stated that you were running the latest play store version in your OP.
He wasn't talking to you, he was directing that at the people who told you to update your play store to 4.1.10, when you clearly stated that you were running the latest play store version in your OP.[/QUOTE]
In the second part of his post it sounds like he is.
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I may have mis-typed that, or maybe you misunderstood what I was saying. I mean that in an hour time, with 10 minutes of reported screen-on time, the battery was down 20%. I woke up this morning from having my phone on the charger all night, responded to a few text messages as well as checked my email. That took up about 10 minutes of screen time. Throw my phone in my pocket and head off to work. Look at it again about an hour later and I'm sitting at 81% left on my charge.
I looked at my battery usage at that point, and it showed Google Services sitting at 85% usage, above screen usage as 7 or 8%. So within an hour of being off the charger I had dropped 19%, and only 10 minutes of screen-on time had occurred. The rest of the drain came from Google Services.
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He wasn't talking to you, he was directing that at the people who told you to update your play store to 4.1.10, when you clearly stated that you were running the latest play store version in your OP.
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Coincidentally you only read the first sentence of my reply too lol the second paragraph of the reply he quoted was asking for the total device on-time and such, so he was right to quote it and reply to it.
OP...your case might be alright. 10% in 1:15 with 10 minutes of screen on-time isn't great...but it's not super abnormal. There's the possibility that the drive involves a few places where the phone is searching for a good signal, or constant wifi spots along the route, or even something to do with bluetooth. I wake up at 7:30 every morning and get out of bed around 8:30.I spend that hour checking email and reading the news (on my phone). At the end of the hour I'm generally hovering just over 90% battery, and that's with constant screen on and WiFi use.
That being said, chrisjm: yours is definitely bad. The phone literally shouldn't be able to burn through 20% battery in an hour unless you're actively playing an online game at full brightness and volume. That's extremely excessive. In your case, there might be something wrong with either the phone or Google Services. It could be an app that's running on the system that's just being reported as Google Services (like a sync, or even a Samsung integration app). Narrowing it down though would be tough.
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Coincidentally you only read the first sentence of my reply too lol the second paragraph of the reply he quoted was asking for the total device on-time and such, so he was right to quote it and reply to it.
OP...your case might be alright. 10% in 1:15 with 10 minutes of screen on-time isn't great...but it's not super abnormal. There's the possibility that the drive involves a few places where the phone is searching for a good signal, or constant wifi spots along the route, or even something to do with bluetooth. I wake up at 7:30 every morning and get out of bed around 8:30.I spend that hour checking email and reading the news (on my phone). At the end of the hour I'm generally hovering just over 90% battery, and that's with constant screen on and WiFi use.
That being said, chrisjm: yours is definitely bad. The phone literally shouldn't be able to burn through 20% battery in an hour unless you're actively playing an online game at full brightness and volume. That's extremely excessive. In your case, there might be something wrong with either the phone or Google Services. It could be an app that's running on the system that's just being reported as Google Services (like a sync, or even a Samsung integration app). Narrowing it down though would be tough.
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Haha, I misunderstood. I was responding to him as well as you; I thought he took it as you yelling at him for saying that he should read the OP. Long work day.
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Sorry bout that. Thought I was doing well to not post in the Dev section
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Sorry bout that. Thought I was doing well to not post in the Dev section
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Yes, and for that...we thank you!
I just started noticing a giant drain due to Google Services. I'm stock/unrooted, and using a 5800mAh extended battery. Until two days ago, I was easily getting a full-day's heavy use with 40-60% still remaining after ~15 hrs, with no supplemental charge during the day.
Monday and Tuesday, battery was down to <20% after ~8 hrs. Today, it got down to ~50% after 5 hrs, and I put it on the charger.
I figure the drain is probably due to an app that I've installed, but it's a new phone and I've been installing apps like crazy, and nothing else in the Battery Usage list really jumps out. Right now, I've got my eye on Waze, since I figure it might be a big Google Services user. Also had installed the Facebook app around the same time. Just uninstalled both; will see if that changes anything. Will report back here if I can identify the culprit app.
A brief followup to my previous post:
Yesterday, battery was still draining quickly and biggest hog by far was Google Services, After deleting Waze and Facebook, battery drain is back to normal (after 6 hrs of typical use, extended battery is still ~75% charged), and Google Services is 3rd biggest battery user, way behind Screen and comfortably behind Maps. I really think it was at least one of those guys doing my battery in...maybe both.
I may not be motivated enough to reinstall Waze and Facebook to see which is the main culprit, but for others wondering about battery consumption, you might try paying some attention to those two guys.
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I know this has probably been asked hundreds of times and I have searched up and down the forums but have found no fix for my battery problem.
I always have my battery at the dimmest level. Mostly only text, the occasional 5 min phone call and web browse here and there. Yet when i look into the battery use the display is always at atleast 96% ive never seen it less than that. But i kno that it has to be something other than just the display though.
I stoped using beautiful widgets, and froze media hub (i read that it eats battery in the bg) recently ive been monotoring my system through system panel.
As of now system panel tells me that System Processes is at 5.7% and system at 2.6% The next highest thing is Swype at 0.4% and android.process.acore at 0.2% the rest of the things are at 0.0%
I was thinking that it might be the battery or just the phone itself...
Edit: im sorry idk why the app didnt post all my post <=(
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I know this has probably been asked hundreds of times and I jave searched up and down the forums but have found no fix for my battery problem.
I always have my battery at the dimmest level. Mostly only text, the occasional 5 min phone call and web browse here and there.
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.......and?
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Having your screen use that much (as a percent) isn't necessarily a bad thing. It means that everything else is using minimal power. You also shouldn't be checking your stats for useful info within moments of turning it on. Give it a whole day of use and check again. Your screen will have used less % after a day but it is totally normal for it to be the largest user of power.
So then what could be causing the battery drain?
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So then what could be causing the battery drain?
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How much drain?
You should expect to get 4-5 hours of use from your Vibrant. Total time could range from four hours to several days, which is what you hear people saying in most battery threads. What they often don't state is how much time the phone is actually in use and whether you get 5 hours or 24 hours before you hit 0% battery you probably are using the phone (screen on for anything, or screen off while listening to music or talking.) for 4-5 hours.
So is your phone getting less use then that? If so then you may have some other issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848207
The links are very informative
Of actual use, not just standy by I get just about 4 hours. Usually under 4.
And that link looks pretty interesting
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Bad News Everyone!
I have spent the last 3 days searching here and other forums trying to find out why my battery has been horrible. My battery goes to around 30% after only 3 or 4 hours of very slight use (2 or 3 texts and checking email once).
I have done two complete battery drain to full charge with the phone off the past two days to try and get a better reading.
The history of the drain, at the end of November I rooted and installed RyanZA OCLF, rooted, and lag fixed, no issues. Installed the basics of rooted (busybox, superuser) and SetCPU.
SetCPU presented problems with not coming out of sleep and freezing after reboots. The battery would give about 6 hours of moderate use. I played around with settings, but ultimately removed it and when I did my battery was lasting 3 hours longer with moderate use, facebook, twitter, browser, 20-30 mins of gaming. From 12:00 pm (leaving work) to 9:00 at night (leaving school) with 35-40% left before I got home.
About 4 days ago, my battery was draining very quickly. Wake up, unplug phone at fully charged, get ready for work, grab phone to leave for work and I am down to 90% after only 20 minutes of standby. When it use to have it around 96% by the time I got to work, about an hour with light use. Seeing this problem I went back and looked at updates and apps that I had. The only thing I could think was Launcher Pro, but no one else has reported battery drain issues and it wasnt showing in Battery Info.
In my attempts, I have done the following.
Went from 7 to 3 screens (one widget per screen)
Removed apps and bloatware with Titanium Backup
Doubled checked my account syncs, Facebook once a day, no twitter sync,
Screen brightness at ZERO
2 Battery Resets (fully drained to recharge phone off)
Installed Watchdog to find any heavy mem/cpu users, (none found)
And a crap-load of googling, forum searching (here and cyanogen forums), and I am still getting horrible battery life.
Today for example: Phone completey charged 10:30 am with only 3 texts sent and I am currently at 28% at 3:15. 5 hours of stand-by should not have drained that much battery. No GPS on.
If you have any ideas of what it could be, at this point I have alread bought a new battery, I would love to hear back.
edit: I am running stock rom 2.1-update1
I used to have poor battery life as well on stock 2.1 rom until i flashed the leaked jk6 update. Im now averaging about 25 hrs per charge with my phone pretty much always in use whether its calls, texting, music, gaming, web, movies ect...
Not to mention i also get 3g in places i havent before and faster DLs, less lag... This rom is awesome, i suggest giving it a try..
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dubbz106, thanks for the advice. I have not had a huge desire to flash a new rom because my phone had performed pretty good. But with my G1 I was keeping it alive through cyanogenmods.
I have been moving closer to flashing and this new battery issue my push me to do it.
Can you link the thread for the rom?
Today i noticed a crazy drain my my battery than previously recorded.
Here's a TL;DR except from a battery meter report.
2011 Dec 20 07:28:50 1324402130 72
2011 Dec 20 10:03:50 1324411430 61
2011 Dec 20 12:33:51 1324420431 30
Based on this, the 2.5 hours from 7.30 till 10.00 the batter lost 11% charge from 10.00 till 12.30 also about 2.5 hours, the battery lost 31% charge. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this today (or recently) and has any advice on what i can check for.
The only app i know of that updated today was Google+. Has anyone experienced today's update being more of a battery hog? If so, is there a way to downgrade?
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Today i noticed a crazy drain my my battery than previously recorded.
Here's a TL;DR except from a battery meter report.
2011 Dec 20 07:28:50 1324402130 72
2011 Dec 20 10:03:50 1324411430 61
2011 Dec 20 12:33:51 1324420431 30
Based on this, the 2.5 hours from 7.30 till 10.00 the batter lost 11% charge from 10.00 till 12.30 also about 2.5 hours, the battery lost 31% charge. Just wondering if anyone else experienced this today (or recently) and has any advice on what i can check for.
The only app i know of that updated today was Google+. Has anyone experienced today's update being more of a battery hog? If so, is there a way to downgrade?
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I'm seeing the same thing on mine, horrid battery life the last couple weeks (stock rooted). Not sure what app is doing it cause I don't use G+
bella92108 said:
I'm seeing the same thing on mine, horrid battery life the last couple weeks (stock rooted). Not sure what app is doing it cause I don't use G+
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Thanks for the reply. Darn. I was hoping on something easy to blame... especially since i knew i updated that app today. but yeah.. 30% in 2.5 hours is pretty unacceptable... especially when i've gone 24+ hours on a charge before.
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Thanks for the reply. Darn. I was hoping on something easy to blame... especially since i knew i updated that app today. but yeah.. 30% in 2.5 hours is pretty unacceptable... especially when i've gone 24+ hours on a charge before.
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Oh mine has always been piss poor, it's just seemingly worse lately (and I haven't run the new att update.)
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Oh mine has always been piss poor, it's just seemingly worse lately (and I haven't run the new att update.)
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Someone else suggested that the Facebook App might have activated the GPS and left it running. I'll have to play with that and see i guess. Make sure the GPS is off and test the battery.
I wish i could go 24 hours on a charge, current battery, 4h 49m - dislay 50% 1h 11m and phones been charged a few times probably 45 mins charge. Now at 16% that's usual too... idk if its a straight talk thing or what but its ridiculous, first android phone and i miss my iphone 4's battery life.
I have been running the latest Unnamed, and it was running perfectly until I actually installed and ran a BLN app (though I was also running Llama, a location-based profile modifier.) Started from scratch with a fresh Unnamed, and battery life is back to normal...10h batery, 58% remaining, display 41%, Android OS 30%. It was either BLN or Llama causing Android OS to take the majority of my battery...I assume a wakelock issue but I did not do any further investigation.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030 if ya haven't already, lots of good info
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I've also been experiencing horrible batter life lately (bought it 3 weeks ago). I'm at 18% after not even 10 hours. 20 minutes of calls, 15-20 texts or so, 3 email accounts. Bluetooth on for a couple hours during my commute.
I'm stock and unrooted (until I decide for sure I'm keeping the phone).
I uninstalled Facebook, NoLED, Skype, turned of Hotmail calendar sync and GPS as per the battery life post.
I have Google on autocync for gMail and Calendar
66% in Deep Sleep.
I do run Executive Assistant (<2%), but it's way too useful for me not to use it.
I was getting ~20 hours last week. If anything, I've ostensibly made changes for better battery life. I have no idea what's going on.
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Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030 if ya haven't already, lots of good info
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I read that thread or at least part of it when i first got my phone .)
Main reason i asked separately was because the battery drain just suddenly got x3 worse than what i'm more used to. I kind of panicked. Will try and do soem further testing as time allows.
Did everyone here w a battery drain do the recent att update?
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Did everyone here w a battery drain do the recent att update?
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I updated this past weekend. No issues till today.
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Did everyone here w a battery drain do the recent att update?
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This started happening a few days before the update.
If you haven't already, download better battery stats to see if there are any offending apps or wakelocks that are causing the excessive drain.
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If you haven't already, download better battery stats to see if there are any offending apps or wakelocks that are causing the excessive drain.
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Yep, did that (awesome app, BTW). The one that took up the most time was the bluetooth PBAP, but it was 2 hours which is my roundtrip commute to work. Nothing else seemed to take up a significant amount of time other than the sver stuff. Although I guess those small things add up. I think NoLED was a huge culprit. People seem to love it, but perhaps I set it up wrong. I'd like to re-install FB and see if it really wasn't that big of a battery hog.
Anyway, after uninstalling those apps I mentioned above, I'm at 90% after 5-1/2 hours. Yesterday around this time I was probably somewhere around 60%. I'm still using Executive Assistant for 3 email accounts with frequent autopulls, active sync for Gmail and Google Calendar, and a few phone calls. I didn't go to work today, so that's 1 less hour of BT for the morning, and I've cut down onmy screen time but it's still a huge improvement.
I just may keep this phone after all.
GOOD NEWS EDIT:
I'm at a little over 24hrs with 43% left! Granted, I curbed my use to try and get a hold of what was going on with my battery: 30 min of calls, only 45 min of screen time, and a boatload of texts.
I realize the screen time is minimal, but it's an amazing improvement on my idle drain, which was the biggest problem. My phone actually goes into deep sleep! I forgot to check the % before I went to bed, but in the past, if I didn't plug in my phone at night with at least 30% charge, it was usually dead in the morning, or with single digit %s.
As far as I can tell, the culprit seemed to be NoLED. (Not trying to slam it or anything, because it's a cool program, but I'm pretty certain that was the issue.)
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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khaytsus said:
I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
All your chat programs running in the back ground prevent your device to sleep correctly, they wake it up every time they check if there is a new message.
Try to keep only the apps you use and try for each app to increase the check delay or disable it.
The antivirus does help.
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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clod007 said:
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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In my opinion the battery reaches her max in 3-4 weeks.
Download the app from the market and use it after every rom change.
I didn't called you paranoic, just that you mustn't be so worried.
My recomandation for a longer battery life is CM7.
GOOD DAY!
Read forum for more details.
Sorry for my english!
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You might try 1Ghz faux kernels as well. They seemed to have helped my battery life considerably.
Chek out what apps you have running in the background and be sure you set youre network yourself (my phone was always changing from 2g to 3g and after i selected the network myself it gave me a 1day + boost .
And you shoud know that the litium polimer batteryes are affected by cold temperatures.
I wish you luck!
I did use cm7 (neutrino) and got about the same battery life span as the current rom (laytveyit), and am currently on the faux 1ghz kernel. Anyway, I will see how it performance in the weeks to come and hopefully the newer version of the rom will improve it. I thought cold temperature helps preserve the battery's life span?
EDIT: Thanks for all the advice!
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Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
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Lol all those chats are you problem imo
The "standard" apps used to figure out what's eating your batteries are:
BetterBatteryStats: for wakelocks
CpuSpy: to tell if you phone is going into deep sleep or not
Built in Battery Usage: to see a pretty graph and tell what's using the most juice
SystemTuner: I just recently started playing with this, lots of information.
Look up BetterBatteryStats here up XDA. There's plenty of threads on how to use it. Look up wakelocks.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the LG G6 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
6h 30min SOT
5h 47m SOT @ 29%
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I'm on the AT&t version and the battery life is crap. I've been lucky to get 3.5 hours of SOT. My 2 year old One M9 gets about the same battery life. I'm hoping to AT&T releases an update to improve this because everyone on T-mo talking about 6 hours of SOT with like 40% remaining.
Great sot without wifi
4 hours 3 mins sot 25% remaining . All on sprint LTE no wifi today with between 1/2 and full bars, usually full though. Insane coming from an s6 edge that would get maybe 2 hours before dying in the same conditions. Loving this phone. Very excited for kernels and ROMs to start hitting this phone
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I'm on the AT&t version and the battery life is crap. I've been lucky to get 3.5 hours of SOT. My 2 year old One M9 gets about the same battery life. I'm hoping to AT&T releases an update to improve this because everyone on T-mo talking about 6 hours of SOT with like 40% remaining.
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Have you been able to fix this? I'm also getting poor battery life.
almost 6 hours SOT?! i crack 5h even and it died as i hit that mark. Im assuming none of you guys are running the always on display? my other issue is at school service blows. I legit watched my phone bleed 12% battery in the course of one class.
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Have you been able to fix this? I'm also getting poor battery life.
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I'm happy to report that I have, mostly. I took into the att store and they ran a diagnostic check on it and told me that the quickmemo app was hitting y processor pretty hard which is strange because I have never used it (it also doesn't show up under battery usage). It can't be disabled but I forced stopped it. When I did force stop it my ram usage dropped by like 10% so I don't know what the heck that app is doing. The odd thing is it will occasionally start up again and I have no idea why. I did open the app and set the capture+ action to be handled by gallery instead of quickmemo and there are no permissions set for it, so we'll see what that does. I'll be watching it closely.
The biggest culprit I believe was my outlook app was having a contact sync issue. Once I went on the app and fixed that issue my battery life has been great. I hit my phone hard yesterday to try it out and while I only had around 4 hours of SOT when the screen wasn't on I was listening to music (probably at least 4 hours of music playback). I downloaded apps from the playstore, surfed the web, streamed some videos, took photos and lot of other heavy uses and it made it from 6am to 6pm with 10% left before i plugged in. I was pretty impressed.
So I say mostly fixed it because fixing the outlook sync issues helped a great deal, but that quickmemo app could still cause a little drain and I can't figure out how to stop it. I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
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I'm happy to report that I have, mostly. I took into the att store and they ran a diagnostic check on it and told me that the quickmemo app was hitting y processor pretty hard which is strange because I have never used it (it also doesn't show up under battery usage). It can't be disabled but I forced stopped it. When I did force stop it my ram usage dropped by like 10% so I don't know what the heck that app is doing. The odd thing is it will occasionally start up again and I have no idea why. I did open the app and set the capture+ action to be handled by gallery instead of quickmemo and there are no permissions set for it, so we'll see what that does. I'll be watching it closely.
The biggest culprit I believe was my outlook app was having a contact sync issue. Once I went on the app and fixed that issue my battery life has been great. I hit my phone hard yesterday to try it out and while I only had around 4 hours of SOT when the screen wasn't on I was listening to music (probably at least 4 hours of music playback). I downloaded apps from the playstore, surfed the web, streamed some videos, took photos and lot of other heavy uses and it made it from 6am to 6pm with 10% left before i plugged in. I was pretty impressed.
So I say mostly fixed it because fixing the outlook sync issues helped a great deal, but that quickmemo app could still cause a little drain and I can't figure out how to stop it. I'll keep an eye on it and report back.
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This is great to hear. I did what some people recommended and did a factory reset, installing all apps "by hand". And force stopping the quickmemo app saved some ram/battery as well. Battery life and stand by seem a lot better. Not great, but better. Gonna see how it fairs in a few days. If it's still bad, might get a replacement. I'm hoping for an unlocked bootloader on this so I can debloat the damn thing. That would help a great deal with battery. Thanks.
7 hours and 26 minutes so far with 48 percent remaining. Estimated time remaining is 6 hours and 11 minutes I've used it pretty heavily throughout the day and this is day one of using it on battery so I'm very very impressed.
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On a side note I recommend not using always on display there's really no need for it and it's going to waste your battery life.
After first full charge
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now thats impressive
My 3rd day of use. First time actually running it down
My average is 4hrs 15 mins to 4hrs 45mins I have all beta google apps including Google play services and beta versions of facebook and Instagram.
Definitely great battery.
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1st full charge. Coming from a corrupted battery nexus 6p with 2hrs of sot, this phone is so much better in any case
Got mine in the mail yesterday, it was shipped with 40% juice. Had almost 3 hours of SOT on that
Let' see what my first charge will be like
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What am I doing wrong here
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The top three reasons for battery drain (with a non defective phone).
1. Screen on with full brightness.
2. Rogue application or data heavy application (email being a big one or apps that run on the background constantly).
3. Poor cell coverage area where phone is sucking up juice trying to stay connected to towers.
Best way to trouble shoot is to start with a 100% clean factory reset phone. Follow these steps
1. Reduce screen brightness as much as possible, using auto brightness helps, but you may have to adjust manually if it's at full ? in your location.
2. Don't install any applications at first. If your battery drain doesn't happen until after you install applications, then you'll need to figure out which one is the culprit.
3. Turn off the cell radio in poor coverage and see if that does anything. If your battery improves you know that's the issue. I know CDMA phones in poor coverage area suck the life out of a phone (Sprint and Verizon).
After that it's time to consider defective device.
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The top three reasons for battery drain (with a non defective phone).
1. Screen on with full brightness.
2. Rogue application or data heavy application (email being a big one or apps that run on the background constantly).
3. Poor cell coverage area where phone is sucking up juice trying to stay connected to towers.
Best way to trouble shoot is to start with a 100% clean factory reset phone. Follow these steps
1. Reduce screen brightness as much as possible, using auto brightness helps, but you may have to adjust manually if it's at full in your location.
2. Don't install any applications at first. If your battery drain doesn't happen until after you install applications, then you'll need to figure out which one is the culprit.
3. Turn off the cell radio in poor coverage and see if that does anything. If your battery improves you know that's the issue. I know CDMA phones in poor coverage area suck the life out of a phone (Sprint and Verizon).
After that it's time to consider defective device.
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Cell coverage i know is one reason while im in school. i swear that place has a jammer installed somewhere. with AOD ill watch the battery just drain itself. Im probably gonna do a factory reset today or tomorrow and see what comes of it.