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Silly question but what's the need to root this phone, is great as it is.
Don't get me wrong, all my past phones were rooted OG Evo, Evo 3d, Evo LTE and now DNA is stock , but rooting seems unnecessary really.
If it's not broken why fix it.
Not fixing but enhancing. The phone is great as is... Adding in a few tweaks can only make it better plus the option to have the latest without waiting on slow big red... That's why I can't wait to root this bad boy.
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I agree with the op on my old phone I needed root and had mods and roms installed but this phone is so good as it is I have left it completely stock.
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Being able to flash custom edits (no more wireless charging pop up!), user a custom recovery where I can make full nandroid backups, and titanium backup of all my apps are the big ones for me. Also custom splash screen (that default HTC screen lights up my whole house) as well as boot / down animations is something love. I was making custom boot animations and hacking my old moto razr era flip phone back in the day.
Oh, and we'll probably get a ported sense 5 way before it comes from Verizon.
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I personally cannot tolerate the default LCD Density. I got the DNA the day it came out, and I had to wait a few days before I could root it (locked bootloader wasn't cracked yet)... Longest few days of my life.
Jaggar345 said:
I agree with the op on my old phone I needed root and had mods and roms installed but this phone is so good as it is I have left it completely stock.
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Ditto.....
Honestly I rooted to get rid of that god damn black menu bar.
After that it's all icing on the cake
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Being able to flash custom edits (no more wireless charging pop up!), user a custom recovery where I can make full nandroid backups, and titanium backup of all my apps are the big ones for me. Also custom splash screen (that default HTC screen lights up my whole house) as well as boot / down animations is something love. I was making custom boot animations and hacking my old moto razr era flip phone back in the day.
Oh, and we'll probably get a ported sense 5 way before it comes from Verizon.
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No More Bloatware....
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No More Bloatware....
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I can't wait to get rid of the bloatware and get my inverted apps back.
I don't need ROOT I need the bootloader unlocked so I can flash custom recoveries which leads to custom ROMs.
Example:
So when HTC says oh sorry we can't upgrade you to Sense 5 because you don't have an IR blaster I say thats ok because Newtoroot already has a Sense 5 ROM that I've been using LONG before HTC decided they weren't going to upgrade me.
With a good ROM you ALMOST don't need root.
exactly
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You can disable apps on stock
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You can disable apps on stock
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Yea, I know, and I am very thankful of that. However, in most cases (if we get an official CM ROM) we can get updates much much sooner than you can with stock. Who knows how long HTC/Verizon will make us wait for 4.2.
For me, it's wifi tethering. No way big red's getting more money from me than they already do.
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For me, it's wifi tethering. No way big red's getting more money from me than they already do.
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I guess you have unlimited, because it doesn't cost anything if you have tiered data.
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Why do we need air? lol JK! For me part of the reason is that I love to tinker and strive to make the phone perfect, which theoretically is really impossible thus I always have to tinker! But I enjoy trying out all the cool custom ROMs and kernels to find what suits my needs best. RIght now I'm UV by 100 and UC 10 1.24 and it still runs as smooth as stock (though obviously my qudrant score has dropped from 8200 to 7100). I have unlimited data, so WiFi tether is a huge bonus. And getting rid of all the annoying icons (GPS reticle, etc). And as awesome as HTC's weather clock widget is, the transparent one in the Viper ROM is the most gorgeous widget ever to me.
All that being said, and there are not many, the DNA is an Android phone I would recommend stock to people.
I'm actually surprised its taking this long to get the ROM going on the DNA. Not that I have any idea of the amount of work that must go into doing something like this, but these guys that are much smarter than me usually have these things out very quickly. In the past it always seems like there is that group of developers that are trying to be the fist to crack/hack/unlock anything that comes out.
There are plenty of ROMs for the DNA man...check the android development section for the DNA...
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For me, I can't wait to kill that damn annoying Droid bootsplash with the loud noise!
I forgot how annoying it was on my old unlocked one. The screen on that one shattered and my new one has the OTA.
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So I've been debating if to root or not for a couple of days now, I just got the phone last week, so I'm still getting used to sense 5.
Now heres what I ask myself, knowing that the development for our specific device is a bit slow, and flashing one of the international roms will make us loose some key features (like wifi calling).
It has me thinking what would be the real benefit to root out device right now?
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So I've been debating if to root or not for a couple of days now, I just got the phone last week, so I'm still getting used to sense 5.
Now heres what I ask myself, knowing that the development for our specific device is a bit slow, and flashing one of the international roms will make us loose some key features (like wifi calling).
It has me thinking what would be the real benefit to root out device right now?
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If you have to ask, then don't root.
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Bingo. Don't root without a compelling reason.
Im still not rooted and I have not missed it that much,
When AOSP gets stable on this phone however I will probably root and try it out and see If I prefer it over sense
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i will be getting mine today, and i will root right away, mainly because i want to use the htc logo as a menu button and disable those three dots
I rooted mine day one (I got mine the day they released last month)
I am running a great ROM and I dont regret rooting one bit, it was totally worth it for the ROM that I am using right now. I still have WiFi calling and more.
Which Rom are you using?
And what features does it have if you don't mind me asking.
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Which Rom are you using?
And what features does it have if you don't mind me asking.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
It has the latest HTC build for this phone, that includes better camera and GPS fixes and better response with the touch buttons. The phone seems snappier and it has better battetylife and it has no more bloat and in benchmarks I score higher now. I can install adaway on my phone now. And more will be in the 8.0 release. I also like the mods (like the percentage battery mod)
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I'm going to root for hotspot/tethering. It gonna install custom rom thougj
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
It has the latest HTC build for this phone, that includes better camera and GPS fixes and better response with the touch buttons. The phone seems snappier and it has better battetylife and it has no more bloat and in benchmarks I score higher now. I can install adaway on my phone now. And more will be in the 8.0 release. I also like the mods (like the percentage battery mod)
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From what I've read none of the international roms have wifi calling....
I mean I know I can flash custom kernels and get certain things like HTC2menu or back2menu...
But as far as roms I thought they werent none out for us specifically right now... Or maybe I'm mistaken...
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From what I've read none of the international roms have wifi calling....
I mean I know I can flash custom kernels and get certain things like HTC2menu or back2menu...
But as far as roms I thought they werent none out for us specifically right now... Or maybe I'm mistaken...
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That ROM does have WiFi calling. It has tmobile specific features in the installer. You should try it out.
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I have rooted every phone I've owned within 3 days of getting it. However, ive had my one for two weeks now and honestly I don't have a compelling reason to root. Bloat? Virtually non-existent. And what is there is "freezable" within the stock rom. Sense5 is remarkably robust, fast, and solid.
But that's just me.
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I've been wanting to root but haven't yet. Only thing I want is WiFi tether and HTC button to work as menu key.
To me, I have to root HTC one due to annoyances. Don't get me wrong, sense is neat... But 3 dot menu bar needs to go, GPS indicator in the status bar is too clunky, and power saver message that won't go away??! If those things were different, I wouldn't root.
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I've been wanting to root but haven't yet. I still have WiFi calling and more
Gotta have Root for Me
There are alot of reasons for root for some users, and for some not so much. It is always one of the first things I do. You can have root and keep a stock ROM it just gives you options, and when you get bored with stock these amazing cooks on XDA always have something brewing for you to check out. Some of my reasons to root specific to the HTC One on TMO.
Flash a writable kernel so my system files are now writable. Currently using Bulletproof.
DoubleTap2Wake so I don't have to bang on the IR blaster all day. HTC buttons don't like to be used, they always end up failing or plain falling out.
got rid of the 3 button menu bar and now have the HTC Logo as the menu button. Sweeet!
Makes it easier to back up and restore. I use several devices so I can Box my Titanium files and quickly be in the same position across whatever device I decide to use at the time.
Customization. blue % battery mod, transparent app drawer, transparent blinkfeed clock. I can do custom icons and get rid on annoying ones likd NFC or GPS.
The most important is to beat the stupid enterprise settings on exchange. I have to have email on my device, but i cant stand using a PIN or Pattern. solution=root!
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Root to use your Playstation 3 controller. =.3
That's the main reason. And there's a MOD that lets you map the HTC button. That's pretty cool. (Not to repeat what others have already stated)
Also, how important is WiFi Calling? People seem to really want that. I haven't used it. LoL!! I'm guessing it's good for those that travel a lot?
*Has my HTC One been shipped yet?* =.(
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Root to use your Playstation 3 controller. =.3
That's the main reason. And there's a MOD that lets you map the HTC button. That's pretty cool. (Not to repeat what others have already stated)
Also, how important is WiFi Calling? People seem to really want that. I haven't used it. LoL!! I'm guessing it's good for those that travel a lot?
*Has my HTC One been shipped yet?* =.(
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WiFi calling is pretty important to me, mainly because where I work I have zero signal but do have access to wifi (I'm right underneath the access point, which is nice).
Some people depend on it at home as well, such as my boss' son.
As far as root goes....I haven't rooted yet, I just haven't felt the need to. :shrug:
Only reason I rooted was to use my MOGA Pro as a regular gamepad. Now I'm running rooted stock ROM and cruising through FF7 in an emulator during my train commute
I am rooted running the ARHD 7.4 ROM with WiFi calling. It works great. Rooting allows me to use titanium backup for all my apps. Also making onandroid backups. And lots of little changes. Remove bloated apps, etc
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Hi guys, I am very new to the Note 2. I just unlocked and rooted the latest ota using Casual. Thanks to Adam Outler and everyone else involved. So my question is which ROMs are compatible with this ota? Basic question I'm sure. I came from the Razr and the kernel had to match so I assume its the same here? Anyone willing to shed some light on this for me would be greatly appreciated.
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Any rom you want as long as it is in the VZW Note 2 threads can be flashed ours arent locked down by what update we are on because our bootloader is unlocked where it isnt on Moto phones. AOSP roms require AOSP kernels as TW roms require TW kernels. The roms come with kernels though so that isnt something tk worry about unless you I want to.
The only thing to remember is if you go to a 4.2 rom and want t I go back to 4.1 you have to flash a downgrade zip so your SD card doesnt become corrupted. You can find the downgrade zip in the Official CM 10.1 thread in the OP.
Check out Droidstyles guide in Android Development, its a sticky, it explains quite a bit and would ne helpful to you I think.
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Thanks for the info. Exactly the answers and info I was looking for. I just flashed CleanROM and went through the flashing process. When it got to the end and said finish to reboot it just turned off and wouldnt turn back on. Couldn't get to recovery or download mode. I had to pull the battery and then turn it on. It went straight to the new ROM though without a hitch. Is that a normal part of the flashing procedure on the N2? The battery pull I mean, or did I miss something?
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Thanks for the info. Exactly the answers and info I was looking for. I just flashed CleanROM and went through the flashing process. When it got to the end and said finish to reboot it just turned off and wouldnt turn back on. Couldn't get to recovery or download mode. I had to pull the battery and then turn it on. It went straight to the new ROM though without a hitch. Is that a normal part of the flashing procedure on the N2? The battery pull I mean, or did I miss something?
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Thats not a normal thing to happen, but it does happen occasionally. As long as it boots up after the battery pull I wouldnt be too worried by it. I have had it happen to me before and after the battery pull I experienced no issues whatsoever.
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CleanROM's good. It was the first ROM I flashed when I got my Note II too.
Eventually though, you may want to switch to something more feature-rich like Jelly Beans, which is what I'm rocking now. The features it adds are pretty awesome and you get full touchwiz functionality (S-Pen and the like) with the look of AOSP.
DL'ing Jelly Beans now. Gotta make a new TiBu before flashing though. Will give it a go shortly. My wife fusses at me sometimes cause on my old phone (Razr) and on this one I am always flashing different ROMs. She especially hates it when she calls and my phone goes directly to voicemail cause I am in recovery flashing a ROM or kernel.
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mikelikesbikes said:
Hi guys, I am very new to the Note 2.
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Hi all, I'm feeling like a n00b on the Note too, and really appreciate the help all of you seem to be willing to share with each other. I'm not new to modding phones, recently I've been through an S3, DNA, RAZR HD and M, and even another Note 2. I made the mistake of swapping the Note 2 for an iPhone 5, and regretted it about thirty seconds later. Now that's my wife's phone, and due to the grace of another (local) xda member, I'm back rockin' the Note 2. This time around in looking forward to getting into some serious flashing and tweaking to get the most from the hardware. I've decided this is Verizon's best phone at the moment, with everything I need.
Don't worry, you're not alone in having a wife who gets annoyed at flashing and tweaking. Happens to me all the time, but I use the excuse it's one of the few hobbies that I have which doesn't involve the rest of the family and I need a bit of alone time. It kind of works as an excuse until the point where I need to use it again.
I'm looking forward to being part of this community and wanted to say hello.
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I like jedi X rom...I got 3 days off my battery with just the right settings...my recommendation is to not mess with the per app dpi for the settings app because now I'm stuck without a settings app and about to switch roms...just about any rom will work as long as it's for your carrier... Best of luck!
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DL'ing Jelly Beans now. Gotta make a new TiBu before flashing though. Will give it a go shortly. My wife fusses at me sometimes cause on my old phone (Razr) and on this one I am always flashing different ROMs. She especially hates it when she calls and my phone goes directly to voicemail cause I am in recovery flashing a ROM or kernel.
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Beans is the best! photosphere camera (page 1 of forum) works great with build 16! Check it out! Also, I agree about Jedi: definitely magic battery settings. Enjoy your new hobby! My wife is the same way.
We used kexec until unlocked bootloader was leaked. We could have a custom Rom and root just not a custom kernel. We could have a custom kernel on stock Rom but couldn't have both.
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I think beaups mentioned that as a possibility, but I don't know who will work on it. A problem that I see would be internal storage. Coming from the Droid 3 and 4, you would have the stock Rom on the phone and then via kexec a different kernel and Rom are loaded so you would need space for the stock and non-stock systems. Add in a backup or two and a bunch of apps, music, and videos there may not be enough room.
Well really just using stock Rom with kexec recovery to achieve root would help a lot. I don't think the stock Rom remains I can't remember now. That's the big drawback on this phone. Shed be a total package with removable storage. I think the stock kernel stays. I know they used to dual boot and others only had custom Rom. Like I said it's been about 10 months. I switched from gs3. I couldn't handle the terrible signal any longer.
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If I'm not mistaken the Rom can be changed just have to boot through stock kernel first . Again I may be wrong but I think you can have custom kernel or custom recovery but not both at the same time.
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I wish
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Just a rooted kexec kernel would be nice lol
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I think beaups mentioned that as a possibility, but I don't know who will work on it. A problem that I see would be internal storage. Coming from the Droid 3 and 4, you would have the stock Rom on the phone and then via kexec a different kernel and Rom are loaded so you would need space for the stock and non-stock systems. Add in a backup or two and a bunch of apps, music, and videos there may not be enough room.
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Live on the edge lol. Keep app backups and contacts backup on the cloud. Just upload the backups to dropbox. Really like this phone. I had gs3 but the reception just wasnt acceptable. This phone has great battery life. Just would like root to remove ads and other typical stuff like kernel control.
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Today I have been sitting at work. I compared the LG Nexus 5 to the Galaxy S4 and noticed they were pretty similar. Not same, just alike. Anyway, what I though about is can the S4 be cleaned up and as close to a Nexus as possible? Is there a way to mod this and replace the ROM with something as clean and stock that is NOT SS? I am not one for writing code but I do follow directions pretty well and can mod without bricking my phone. I've started modding back with the Samsung Moment/Transform. So, is this possible? if so, are there any threads? and lastly, what is the difference with android dev and original android dev? the forums kinda changed on me one day and now it has new stuffs.
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Today I have been sitting at work. I compared the LG Nexus 5 to the Galaxy S4 and noticed they were pretty similar. Not same, just alike. Anyway, what I though about is can the S4 be cleaned up and as close to a Nexus as possible? Is there a way to mod this and replace the ROM with something as clean and stock that is NOT SS? I am not one for writing code but I do follow directions pretty well and can mod without bricking my phone. I've started modding back with the Samsung Moment/Transform. So, is this possible? if so, are there any threads? and lastly, what is the difference with android dev and original android dev? the forums kinda changed on me one day and now it has new stuffs.
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With the locked bootloader you are out of luck replacing the full OS.
But you will lose some nice features if you could.
I rooted and disabled all the Verizon and Samsung stuff I don't use or need. YMMV on what you want frozen.
I have mine pretty tuned now.
I have the latest version of wallet supporting tap and pay.
Have Xposed framework installed to change behavior.
I don't need vanilla Android.
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With the locked bootloader you are out of luck replacing the full OS.
But you will lose some nice features if you could.
I rooted and disabled all the Verizon and Samsung stuff I don't use or need. YMMV on what you want frozen.
I have mine pretty tuned now.
I have the latest version of wallet supporting tap and pay.
Have Xposed framework installed to change behavior.
I don't need vanilla Android.
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I am rooted on ME7. I didn't upgrade because i am in the field playing army. anyhoo, what samsung stuff did you freeze? i don't want to freeze something that is required to run. Can i freeze the launcher if i have a replacement already running(touchwiz)?
what did you do to "tune" it?
And it's been awhile since i modded.
I checked the sticky and froze apps from the list people tested. I then picked a few of my own. I'm running xposed and the Wanam module that allows me to change all kinds do of appearance stuff. I also have tethering working. I moved from ME7. In hindsight I would stay there MI1 has more limitations for customization.
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Does xposed framework work with mj7 I'm also rooted as well
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I checked the sticky and froze apps from the list people tested. I then picked a few of my own. I'm running xposed and the Wanam module that allows me to change all kinds do of appearance stuff. I also have tethering working. I moved from ME7. In hindsight I would stay there MI1 has more limitations for customization.
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That is why I am staying on ME7 until i see a viable root for 4.3. I don't want to risk losing root or the framework either.
as for the sticky, i can't seem to find it in the boards. i wear glasses so I know i'm blind.
Framework works on mj7. You can update without losing root but yes you need to find the thread, there are files and instructions. Also will likely need a como to properly odin no wipe back to a stock system set up.
Find in the general section.
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So do I just install as normal
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