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Before we start this discussion, i'd just like to say that the devs are doing a brilliant job of bringing android flavours to the Touchpad and this discussion should in no way be a deterrent to them doing their work.
Is it just me or is the touchpad a neglected device in terms of development compared to other tablets? i.e. asus, samsung, htc.
There are a huge number of devs and a wide variety of custom ROMS, themed ROMS, ported ROMS, Mods the list goes on and on.
As far as I'm aware of the problems (feel free to correct me) the source for half the hardware hasn't been released (such as the webcam) etc etc. so it kind of makes it very very difficult if not impossible to experiment with different ROMS.
Yes some out there can say to me "buy a tablet that was meant to run android next time" fair enough. But is it alot to expect the same level of development as usual android tablets?
webOS is very lovely but it doesn't cut it for me in terms of customisation (even with some of the childish looking themes on preware). CM9 has its issues still with regards to not everything working yet, but even when it's complete i still miss simple conveniences like VPN and connect WiFi using WPS automatically to name a few.
So can we expect that kind of development? or is it too much to ask.
I doubt we'll have Samsung level development, but that's true of any non-Samsung device. Have no idea why they're so popular, but usually the size of their dev communities put others to shame.
As you've pointed out, we don't have all our hardware working right now. Between that and the fact that CM9 itself (as a whole, not just the TP Version) is incomplete, its no wonder there's only two or three roms. Many people make their roms using another as a base, be it a stock firmware (of which the TP obviously does not have) or CM. Since CM9 is in a constant state of flux, there's no solid base for the TP yet.
As it is, we have the CM9 alpha, CM9 weeklies, AOPK, Unofficial Cornerstone kangs, MIUI, Classicnerd, Cherrykang... and that's just ICS based stuff. Add in Gingerbread roms and non-Android OSs like Ubuntu and you'll find we have a quite a good selection already.
my gripe with gingerbread ROMS is not as some people say "phone rom on a tablet" its just the fact that the apps recognize it as a phone and ruins the whole thing.
apart from MIUI, alot of the other ROMS look and feel pretty similar to me and there isn't much that sets them apart. granted cm9 is in its infancy (EVERYWHERE including my evo 3D, google definitely not redeeming itself over this update fiasco). I haven't really sampled Ubuntu to make a judgement on it.
I suppose if one was to put together something original a) it would be so hard people wouldn't bother attempting it cuz it's just too time consuming b) it'd be like making a lovely dish from leftovers....kernel's modified and compiled from things like htc jetstream (and rumor has it the GS2 on AT&T), ROMS put together from 7" android tablets most of which have the same resolution as the touchpad so it'll make life easier with respect to resizing.... again too much effort and time consuming to be worthwhile
I feel the TouchPad has great development. Especially when you consider a vast majority of the devices were sold before android was put on the device. When the fire sales happened the people that bought them didn't know android was going to be put on it. So anyone that wanted to play with android or build ROMs probably got an android tablet.
There will never be a full stock optimized android build. With the Samsung devices they have a solid start point, and a manufacturer that is devoted to the success of the device. HP has washed its hands of the TouchPad more or less. Everything done to get android on the TouchPad had been done by volunteers, without the resources really needed.
Samsung just generally makes things easiest for people to hack it. HTC and Asus ship their devices with locked bootloaders. Samsung doesn't, so they have one less hurdle right from the get go. The other side of that is Samsung makes great hardware, and decent software. This is easier to show in the phones. HTC makes good phones, but there is two or three extra hurdles that don't exist on Samsung phones. LG phones also don't have those hurdles, but their hardware isn't as good, and they are notoriously bad at getting android updates out.
Another thing to consider is the quality of android overall on a tablet. There is minimal tablet apps, and little motivation. Apple bet their company on the success of the iPad, Microsoft is doing the same with Windows 8. If either of them fail at their tablet product their entire company is in jeopardy. But Google wouldn't notice if android tablets fail, and flop. The entire thing to them is like a hobby. I think if android tablets were more popular in general we would see a lot more going on here. The fact that the TouchPad has sold more units than any other android tablet (combined I think) is really sad. Android just isn't taking hold in the tablet market, and won't without a lot of work by Google. But, what's their incentive? 98% of their revenue is from advertising. They still make money when an iPad pulls up an ad served by Google. They don't really have a lot of skin in the game, and it shows. I think the only reason Samsung, HTC, Motorola etc sell android tablets at all is because they don't really have a choice. They can't sell iOS tablets. The real test will be Windows 8 on ARM. If these companies can license W8 from Microsoft, its familiar to them. Its like building a Laptop or Ultrabook, they rely on Microsoft's ability to make compelling software, and enterprise friendly systems. That's really what HP was trying to do with the TouchPad. HP said the TouchPad wasn't their last tablet, but I would bet their next one runs W8. I think the tablet race us destined to be a two pony race, and that android isn't going to be the second pony much longer at the rate things are going. </rant>
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Before we start this discussion, i'd just like to say that the devs are doing a brilliant job of bringing android flavours to the Touchpad and this discussion should in no way be a deterrent to them doing their work.
Is it just me or is the touchpad a neglected device in terms of development compared to other tablets? i.e. asus, samsung, htc. niggles (or problems; you decide) with cm9 has started to
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I get so tired of people complaining they don't get the same things from a $200 device as others get from their $600 ones. The reason the TPs are selling at the price they are is that the manufacturer stopped development. But, IMNSHO, the TP users are actually benefiting from that. If HP were still in charge, the TP would not have ICS, Ubuntu or Arch running.
this is my first tablet after all.....and when we're used to the development we see on our (assumed) android phones you can't help but compare, but like i said its only a discussion. and whats Arch?
Doesn't the fact that HP released the android kernel help development? How much does it help
Dear Everyone,
I've just wondered that why people are getting an iPhone, when there is the best of all Android? For example, I've adviced someone to get themselves a Samsung Galaxy S2. But ended up getting an iPhone 4S! I know that Android is way better than iOS, because of;
Here are some reasons;
1) I have a Sony Ericsson Xperia X8 and an Apple iPhone 3G S
2) My cousin said that the iPhone is a disease (he has a Samsung Galaxy S2 and an iPhone 3G (not the 3G S))
3) T3 Awarded Phones (from 2009) are all Android.
P.S: you can share your opinions and ideas and etc.
If someone buys an iPhone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they hate Android. Maybe they just prefer the looks of the iPhone.
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If someone buys an iPhone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they hate Android. Maybe they just prefer the looks of the iPhone.
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The Question is now changed, because of I have asked in a wrong way, sorry.
The only thing because i like ios is that there are a lot more social media apps and the interfaces of the apps are better.
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Several People buy an iPhone because
-It has that User Friendly UI (User friendliness make me angry LoL)
-Apple got known first in the smart phone industry. Android was second (I think?)
-Some People like the iPhone's look )
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It's the same thing as asking why people prefer apple computers over pc. People are different, what suits for other is not necessary good for everyone.
I think the whole industry needs competition so that we, as consumers, can always get better and better products. That's why it's good thing to see people buying both android and iOS phones.
I think not everybody wants a phone, which is compicated, because you can change everything.
Many people choose a phone, because of the looks and the fact, that there is only one way, to do a specific task (it doesn't even have to be the best way - but one way)
And the iphone has great hardware.
I personally wanted a phone, where I am in control, so I chose Android
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It's the same thing as asking why people prefer apple computers over pc. People are different, what suits for other is not necessary good for everyone.
I think the whole industry needs competition so that we, as consumers, can always get better and better products. That's why it's good thing to see people buying both android and iOS phones.
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The funny thing is, in the late 80s and 90s and even into the 2000s Apple advertised themselves as the alternative to the mainstream boring beige cased PC. Nowadays the iPhone is likely the most recognizable smartphone and about as mainstream as you get. The vast selection of Android phones is the alternative.
Android needs Apple and Apple needs Android, competition provides a better and less expensive product for the consumer. Now if only Apple would play along instead of suing everyone that poses a threat.
Hello, i have used both, and i bear no grudge to either Android or Apple. I generally laugh everytime i read forums sections on articles regarding phone-tests on Android or iPhone. The flaming that Fanbois and Android lovers give eachother.. LOL they have no clue.
iPhone and Android both have their pro and cons. Neither is perfect.
Why i pick Android:
- OPEN SOURCE
- The fun of flashing Roms.
- Good selection of ROMS and phones.
- Utilities on Market are better than Appstore on Apple
Why i wouldn´t choose Android:
- Performance issues and bugs.
- Touch screen is not the best.
- Malware in market apps.
- Some apps sucks on Android that is way better on IOS
- Typing is not the best. Inaccurate at times.
- Flimsy build on many models.
Why i would choose iPhone:
- Lovely and solid built. The glass material on iPhone pisses over Corning Gorilla Glass in my opinion.
- IOS is very flawless in action. little bugs and demands less CPU to run.
- Great selection of games, iPhone runs them better than Android.
- Jailbreaking (opens up a better world on a otherwise very boring OS)
- Simplicity in use.
- Typing on iPhone is much more accurate on IOS than Android, that is because screen on iPhone is closer to your thumb than most Androids.
- Drag & Drop to phone
- Many smarter and well thought features in IOS.
Why i won´t choose iPhone / IOS:
- The build is just solid.
- Closed source (hooray Jailbreaking)
- Very very dull phone when not Jailbroken
- Utilities apps kinda sucks
- Outdated size, 3.5" screen is way to small today (bring on iPhone 5)
- iTunes and Syncing pretty much sucks.
- Everybody owns an iPhone..
First of all, I believe people choose the iphone over android because of brand name. More people are more familiar with Apple's iphone brand than Google's Android devices. Because of that, they choose to go with the brand they're most familiar with. Sort of like those preppy people whp always wear clothes from differing brands like Hollister, Aeropostle, American Eagle, etc.
Second is because Apple supports their older devices more frequently than Google and the other device manufacturers.
Third is because many people are technologically challenged and don't know what to do on their phone. For that, Apple's iphone definitely takes the cake in ease of use. Plus little kids can learn how to use the iphone quickly compared to using an android.
Fourth is apps because Apple has a LOT of apps (more than Android).
Fifth is probably due to looks because the iphone looks premium and most android devices usually don't look premium despite the price.
Finally, to end this IMO explanation, Apple generally has a fluid UI, which rarely lags and even games feel EXTREMELY fluid (in my experience with a friend's iphone). Android may be getting better, but it still lags behind a little more noticeably.
That's pretty much how I would see why people go for the iphone over Android.
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Iphone is a popular trend..
And the mass majority of people don't enjoy tinkering with things to make them perfect. They want something easy to use and won't stop being supported by apple. Apple's entire concept is easy to use if the consumer is willing to give up control.
There are so many different versions of android and the main android will be old in two months. It is impossible to have the latest thing in the Android Market.
I am using a two years old Samsung but it runs like a champ on the rom and kernel. Stock would have killed me by now how slow it is. Not everyone wants to spend the time figuring things out.
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In my experience with numerous tablets, and phones, my iPhone JUST WORKS. I like the itunes syncing concept, and the phone can always be relied on. My androids though....poor battery life with custom ROM's and kernels. Sometimes there isn't a root. (like the vizio vtab1008). With iPhone, you know that there are millions like you, and who are being taken care of by the few and the proud devs that always bring on the jailbreaks. Sure, android gives me so much more power. Like a strong russian woman! A very smart russian woman...and iPhone is like the all american babe. She looks good, but isn't as strong. When it comes to apps, iPhone has it DOWN. If you want a long lasting phone with amzing build quality, that JUST WORKS, and nothing more, then get an iPhone. If you want more power, and customization, then GO ANDROID!!!!!
I prefer android tweaks/mods/roms way more than IOS tweaks. Let me say this....the day that iPhone get sd card and an onboard recovery image, with open source IOS....then good bye Android lol.
Personally, I enjoy Android much more. +1 for android.
I've seen people who believe ios is the best, and the rest is nothing, and I was like, what?
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Why i won´t choose iPhone / IOS:
- The build is just solid.
- Closed source (hooray Jailbreaking)
- Very very dull phone when not Jailbroken
- Utilities apps kinda sucks
- Outdated size, 3.5" screen is way to small today (bring on iPhone 5)
- iTunes and Syncing pretty much sucks.
- Everybody owns an iPhone..
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You can also add that iPhone is easily smashable.
Check this link: iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S2 Drop Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
This is like asking why do vegetarians eat veggies when there is good meat????
Dumb question
and clutters thread..
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This is like asking why do vegetarians eat veggies when there is good meat????
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That does pretty much sum this thread up.
It's had a few days to gain some opinions, and now it's time to end it.
Thread closed.
My dad's friend is looking to buy a tablet and he's asking me for advice on which tablet to buy since he's on the fence. I'd hate to see him buy an iPad because, well, we all know why. He's a complete tech noob and only knows about iPad because that's what he thinks is the "cool one".
Just tell him to wait untill the nexus 7, the price alone should stear him towards android over apple.
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My dad's friend is looking to buy a tablet and he's asking me for advice on which tablet to buy since he's on the fence. I'd hate to see him buy an iPad because, well, we all know why. He's a complete tech noob and only knows about iPad because that's what he thinks is the "cool one".
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don't let your personal preferences influence someone else's choices -
I've been thinking about smartphone for my father several times (still in planning phase) and considering his lack of time and need to have something that simply works out of the box (i.e. no customisation predilections), I always end up with and iPhone as the perfect device for him (even though for me it would mean buying the dumbsmartphone)
Bring him over to a local electronics shop with both tablets available to test.
Let him try them and see what he feels about the two different tablets.
As much as I hate Apple, I'd probably suggest their products to people who aren't the best with technology.
Android tablet have a bunch of choice.. u can take the cheaper one.. before nexus 7 was released, for me android tablet was laggy.. u can promote nexus 7
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Just tell him to wait untill the nexus 7, the price alone should stear him towards android over apple.
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android is better...
ipad => iOS = less flexibility ( as far as i am concerned...they technically tell you "it my way or the high way"
android => wayy better in terms of flexibility.
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As much as I hate Apple, I'd probably suggest their products to people who aren't the best with technology.
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Yup that's what I recommend for the technologically challenged too. I much prefer Android but there are some apps that Android doesn't have - my cable provider has an IOS app that lets me watch live tv on my Ipad. The Android app doesn't have this and there are a few apps for IOS that haven't made it to Android.
Nothing against Apple other than the crappy Itunes software and the way your device is forever married to the computer you initially sync it with.
Ok so HONESTLY, yes. An ipad would be better for utter tech noobs. BUT, lets not forget about the soul sucking control freak monopoly that is Apple. Yes, it would be a "better" choice, but, supporting Apple hurts Android since they are actively trying to put an end to android devices. Giving them your money, or suggesting that someone else gives them there money is just supporting them and giving them more power.
Try to explain WHY Apple are evil dirty theives(Stealing from open source and claiming it as their own.) And how they are trying to be a monopoly. Also if he plans on having hooked up to a wireless service(Sprint ect.) he will have a hard time getting good cust service. Apple is bad for the future of mobile computing and software development.
There is the kindel fire, which is very inexpensive, and has a really good UI/UX. Also the new google tablet looks great.
Just show them around examples here of people saying 'Moved from an iPad to a X', Android is so much better etc
Why is it more apps are being developed for iOS and not android?? I personally think this sucks considering phones with android are dominating the smartphone market e.g android currently runs on Samsung phones, HTC phones, LG phones, Motorola phones, ZTE phones, Huawei phones as well as tablets such as Acer, Nexus 7, Galaxy Tab, HP Touchpad etc. I just get the feeling android is being left out. IOS runs on the iPhone and iPad and that's it....doesn't make sense to me.
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Agreed. Fortunately I have all the apps that I need
Its because if you make a app on iOS it only has to really work on 2 or 3 devices which makes testing and making bug free much easier.
With android there are so many devices it can be hard to debug across all device and screen sizes etc etc.
For 'simpler' apps its not a issue but with bigger more complexed apps it can be a bigger issue and thus far more work for the dev
Apparently over 40% of IOS Apps have never even been downloaded once so I think the word Shovelware certainly applies.
Its still the largest single device out there, one phone and one tablet. I imagine it makes dev work easier, sort of like building a complex website that only has to work in one browser. Plus the way the media talks about the iPhone all the time, many probably think it has a huge majority of the market share.
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Plus the way the media talks about the iPhone all the time, many probably think it has a huge majority of the market share.
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Yeah, that's right. In fact, I never seen an Google commercial on TV, and many people don't know about Android. However, if you ask them "Do you know the iPhone/iPad?" surely the answer will be "yes... it's cool"
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Yeah, that's right. In fact, I never seen an Google commercial on TV, and many people don't know about Android. However, if you ask them "Do you know the iPhone/iPad?" surely the answer will be "yes... it's cool"
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There are some Nexus 7 commercials on these days, and back before Verizon got the iPhone they ran quite a few commercials with the OG Droid and Droid X. The iPhone is in nearly every new movie when a cell phone is shown. Its ironic because for years Apple embraced being different than the mainstream majority of whatever product they were trying to sell. Now the iPad/iPhone is about as mainstream as you can get since its everywhere.
What about the android shop in California....that must be the only store dedicated to an OS lol
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Once Google opens a nexus store in every big city in the world and has more commercials, sues the heck out of everybody and mocks Apple then they will be more popular. Oh yea there are ups and down on both platforms. Apple charges 99 bucks a year to develop apps and publish them while android only charges 25 bucks. But like said above there are too many androids from 3.5 inch 800 megahertz processors to giant 4.8 inch phones with a quad core cpu. The galaxy note is 5.3" GEEZUS
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apple smooth and no laggy
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apple smooth and no laggy
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And JellyBean isn't?
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Iphones and iPads are just overpriced ****e imo! They all look and feel the same, layout has been the same since day 1, their not very attractive, specs are a joke (4s is EXACTLY the same as the 4 just added a dual core 800mhz CPU and a joke piece of software called siri, which doesn't work half the time) and they have a cheek to charge £599 for a beefed up version of the iPhone 4!!! You must be kidding right??
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I just picked up a Galaxy S3 and it cost roughly the same as a new iphone. Apple appeals to a broad consumer base as any idiot can figure it out, and most people only use their phones to talk, text, facebook, angry birds, etc anyway. They're usually stable, and just work. Android, however, claims the cake because it doesn't lock you into any single hardware manufacturer, and has the open-source backing. It just so happens that since the tv is lovestruck by apple products, most people clamor to apple cause they saw it on tv, and since apple has the outspoken user base it does (aka fanboys), it popularly perceived that ios is the most popular platform. And with that, most entrepreneurs are going to go with the platform they feel their products will get the most exposure on, which leads to higher revenue. Econ 101
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I just picked up a Galaxy S3 and it cost roughly the same as a new iphone. Apple appeals to a broad consumer base as any idiot can figure it out, and most people only use their phones to talk, text, facebook, angry birds, etc anyway. They're usually stable, and just work. Android, however, claims the cake because it doesn't lock you into any single hardware manufacturer, and has the open-source backing. It just so happens that since the tv is lovestruck by apple products, most people clamor to apple cause they saw it on tv, and since apple has the outspoken user base it does (aka fanboys), it popularly perceived that ios is the most popular platform. And with that, most entrepreneurs are going to go with the platform they feel their products will get the most exposure on, which leads to higher revenue. Econ 101
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I think you pretty much nailed it. Android being based on linux, and an 'open' system, alot of linux users/hackers use it, and there for do not want to pay for software, as with their computer operating systems. Now dont get me wrong, some people do pay for software, but if you can find a free alternative, or even better just create your own, why would you pay for it ?
With Apple products, basicly morons are buying it because they are told to, they think it is cool, all thier dumb ass friends have them, and so any software that is needed for it, they will pay through the nose for, just like their devices they have to upgrade before they have finished paying off the last one.
Forgive my extreme dis-like for Apple products. I just really do not like them.
It was long before the iPhone that I stayed away from Apple products. Their computers were and still are way overpriced when compared to the same specs on a Windows PC. Or you can build your own and save even more money. iPods are overpriced and you are forced to use iTunes. I've used Creative and Sandisk players that don't require any software as they were USB mass storage devices. I can write a simple batch file to sync two directories, I don't need a big program like iTunes. I remember one of my friends showing off their cool new iPod shuffle years ago, the model without a screen. Meanwhile I had a Sandisk player (forget the model) that had a screen and more storage space plus it costs less. I also had (still have) my Dell Axim x50 which still is a better MP3/video player than any iPod today since it has CF and SD slots and can play nearly every format with TCPMP.
Android was the next move for me after Microsoft discontinued Windows Mobile. Its the only popular mobile OS for power users left. Its a lot more stable than WM ever was, not responding apps will force close where as on WM you would often have to restart the device.
Unless Apple does something innovative with the iPhone, I predict it is on a sinking ship. Its an outdated device/UI after 5 years with little changes. After ICS, anytime I see an iOS device it just looks so outdated. There have been hardware upgrades but today's iPhone doesn't look much different from the 2007 model. The mobile market moves fast and those who don't keep up die off, look at what happened to Windows Mobile which didn't change for years.
One Topmost reason why Apps are more developed for iOS than Android:
The high-rated, most popular and mostly downloaded apps in Android suffers PIRACY ISSUE which is not acceptable to the developers as it incurs the developers a huge loss. Although it also happens with iOS apps, but their piracy rate is not that high as Android.
Also we must be thankful to the developers that in spite of these issues, they still develop good apps for us and make Android a better OS.
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I think you pretty much nailed it. Android being based on linux, and an 'open' system, alot of linux users/hackers use it, and there for do not want to pay for software, as with their computer operating systems. Now dont get me wrong, some people do pay for software, but if you can find a free alternative, or even better just create your own, why would you pay for it ?
With Apple products, basicly morons are buying it because they are told to, they think it is cool, all thier dumb ass friends have them, and so any software that is needed for it, they will pay through the nose for, just like their devices they have to upgrade before they have finished paying off the last one.
Forgive my extreme dis-like for Apple products. I just really do not like them.
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Nah dude I feel ya. You get the same (for the most part) applications for less to nothing, and if it doesn't have the exact functionality you're looking for, you can change it yourself. Apple doesn't even give the option to sideload whereas Android allows it even for a stock unrooted user. But where we see these drawbacks, it does make iOS much more stable because it's extremely difficult for iphone users to screw it up. But you have to remember, different clientele. The one thing Apple has going for them is their brilliant (if you wanna call it that) marketing. That's the only reason they've done so well, is because they've managed to make a cult of it and exploit that fact that people are half the time so pathetic they need some product/brand to represent who they are, and Apple has provided that branding for millions of people. I do some home automation/networking projects as a hobby, and I hate my buddy's macbook cause that thing leaves crap all over my servers, even if the shares are on major lockdown. And getting them to play nicely with media, forget about it.
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It was long before the iPhone that I stayed away from Apple products. Their computers were and still are way overpriced when compared to the same specs on a Windows PC. Or you can build your own and save even more money. iPods are overpriced and you are forced to use iTunes. I've used Creative and Sandisk players that don't require any software as they were USB mass storage devices. I can write a simple batch file to sync two directories, I don't need a big program like iTunes. I remember one of my friends showing off their cool new iPod shuffle years ago, the model without a screen. Meanwhile I had a Sandisk player (forget the model) that had a screen and more storage space plus it costs less. I also had (still have) my Dell Axim x50 which still is a better MP3/video player than any iPod today since it has CF and SD slots and can play nearly every format with TCPMP.
Android was the next move for me after Microsoft discontinued Windows Mobile. Its the only popular mobile OS for power users left. Its a lot more stable than WM ever was, not responding apps will force close where as on WM you would often have to restart the device.
Unless Apple does something innovative with the iPhone, I predict it is on a sinking ship. Its an outdated device/UI after 5 years with little changes. After ICS, anytime I see an iOS device it just looks so outdated. There have been hardware upgrades but today's iPhone doesn't look much different from the 2007 model. The mobile market moves fast and those who don't keep up die off, look at what happened to Windows Mobile which didn't change for years.
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Actually you can use an ipod with rhythm box, an itunes-like media player for Linux . I don't have one, so I can't say anything on its functionality. I had a windows phone on, if I remember correctly, a motorola que or something. WORST PHONE EVER. I got from a friend, but I was rebooting a good 10 times a day cause it would lock up or something wacko. In terms of iOS's gui, all they'd have to do is keep adding gooey nonsense and if the play it off as an upgrade, the apple kids will eat it up for the next 30 years without any need for advancing the base functionality. Honestly, I'm sure karma will catch up with Apple (as it did for Microsoft) and they'll bury themselves in crap. Don't know what, I'm just being hopefull
Really because the iOS users are the dumbest and will buy pretty much any app that is developed.
I joke I joke.
But really the reason is because a lot of developers feel that all android users do is pirate apps so they can't make a profit.
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There are so many factors why apple appstore has more apps,
Firstly it has a quality control, so when your apple appstore app is approved, then its a thing to be proud of next, the payment schemes offered my apple is easier than android, and also, you just need to test on 2 or maximum three devices unlike android where you gotta test on so many devices to with so many different API versions and screen sizes.
Next , visibility of new apps is much much more on apple store compared to Play store.
And lastly, the play store's global reach is less!
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There are so many factors why apple appstore has more apps,
Firstly it has a quality control, so when your apple appstore app is approved, then its a thing to be proud of next, the payment schemes offered my apple is easier than android, and also, you just need to test on 2 or maximum three devices unlike android where you gotta test on so many devices to with so many different API versions and screen sizes.
Next , visibility of new apps is much much more on apple store compared to Play store.
And lastly, the play store's global reach is less!
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Bingo. They simplify everything for quality control that they feel provides a better user experience, and to some extent it does. While it is extremely restrictive, it still provides the masses with simplicity, of whom don't know a motherboard from a graphics card half the time. Android is more of a Wild West of sorts, allowing the users to have more control of their environment. Then again, Apple proponents are more likely to pay stupid amounts of money for close to anything so they can be one of the cool kids whereas Android folk either couldn't/didn't want to afford an iphone, or are Linux people who aren't gonna be keen on paying for software in the first place.
Hey guys, didn't know where exactly to put this, but imo it fits best here (if not please tell me)
So i thought about fooling around with software and hardware, basicly: getting iOS or win7.8 or win8 on a android device (and i am not talking about some sh** that just looks like it)
As i have no experience in ROMs or anything programming related i just wanted to know if this would be possible?
It would be really awesome as i am very fond of fooling around with hardware devices where you dont expect the software you have xD
Because i heard of some classmate of my cousin who flashed android on his windows-phone (he had some old 6.x version)
Greets Vauvenal7
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Vauvenal7 said:
... getting iOS or win7.8 or win8 on a android device (and i am not talking about some sh** that just looks like it)...
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Well, it's impossible. iOS needs specific HW, plus both OSes are closed source. You can run Android on iStuff and on WinMob devices (HTC HD2) because Android is open source, you can change everything in it without problems.
iOS and WP aren't open source and you can't modify it.
fifo171 said:
Well, it's impossible. iOS needs specific HW, plus both OSes are closed source. You can run Android on iStuff and on WinMob devices (HTC HD2) because Android is open source, you can change everything in it without problems.
iOS and WP aren't open source and you can't modify it.
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Right.
the iPhone has its own processor -- the "A6" is used in the iPhone 5 which is based on the ARMv7, but I'm confident it is different enough to effectively make "porting" the iOS to another hardware platform essentially impossible (short of repackaging an iPhone's internals into a different case).
Now Windows Mobile 8 runs on "Qualcomm Snapdragon S4" chips (according to Wikipedia) which seems a bit safer on the hardware end...but then you're looking at trying to get a closed-source operating system to run on a different hardware..
I'd say Windows Mobile 8 is pooooossible, but it's a very very long stretch. And then, is it really worth it? Or just to say that you did it?
I think I'd just stick to Android since they are GIVING us the operating system. It's like free money!
Thanks guys
Well, pitty :/
And yeah...nothing goes over android xD
But it would have still been fun though^^
Greets Vauvenal7
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