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For the pass week I have been experiencing screen freezes / screen lock ups......to the point I have to do a battery pull....I never had this issues before til recently I've tried every rom and it does the same thing after a few days or so I've even ran roms that I've never had any issues with before but i still get lock ups....any ideas!!! I don't wanna take it in cuz I don't want to do the HTC unlocking once they send me a refurb!!
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Could it be heat related? Mine is.
I am going for a second refurbished e3d and hitting it with a hairdryer first thing out of the box to see if I can get it to reboot due to moderate heat.
A month ago, refurbished phones were 1.4 hboot.
Can't be heat related I watch movies just to burn my battery dry and nothing goes wrong but idk but it possibly could be heat related
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M phone was horribly hot this weekend and was perfectly stable. What the heck?!?
Heat is either a necessary precondition or it is humidity related. Those (and updated apps, as they hit the market) are all that have changed between stability and the previous rebooting abyss.
Maybe random really is random.
Oh, I still can't use the walts kernel that comes with CR 2.5. Something about it hates my phone and causes massive random rebooting.
Freeza's stock kernel is a million times more stable, only leaving me with the more minor rebooting topic we are posting about here.
Try this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18246407&postcount=2861
I'm getting freezes also, anytime my phone screen times out. The phone will lock up and you have to hold power button plus volume up and down to reboot or battery pull.
I just did this fix and testing now, not sure if it fixes it yet...
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^^^didn't work for me... Getting the lockups.
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Questions - Just trying to help
OP :
Are you using any 3rd party roms - mods - themes- etc.
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If so, I can tell you , from personal experience, that ViperRom seemed to affect my phone (stock kernel, last version, not the latest) in this way. I was not overclocking, nothing special just the basic rom and it seemed to randomly lock up, and get quite warm. Many, many others however are quite happy with his rom without any issues.
Me personally, I have moved to Virus'es (lol) infected rom, Im loving it, stable, fast, beautiful theme, and it seems like the developer is a little more involved than Viper was.
Just my 2c, Not trying to trash any of the dev's I appreciate all of the hard work hobbyists put into this, once again, just trying to be helpful.
--DT
deathtech said:
OP :
Are you using any 3rd party roms - mods - themes- etc.
?
If so, I can tell you , from personal experience, that ViperRom seemed to affect my phone (stock kernel, last version, not the latest) in this way. I was not overclocking, nothing special just the basic rom and it seemed to randomly lock up, and get quite warm. Many, many others however are quite happy with his rom without any issues.
Me personally, I have moved to Virus'es (lol) infected rom, Im loving it, stable, fast, beautiful theme, and it seems like the developer is a little more involved than Viper was.
Just my 2c, Not trying to trash any of the dev's I appreciate all of the hard work hobbyists put into this, once again, just trying to be helpful.
--DT
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I'm running virus news rev and I'm getting the lockups...
It happens while I leave phone idle and freezes screen up and requires battery yank or power down and volume button reset.
I just flashed back to virus airbourne and no lockups.
Seems to happen on 2.3.4 roms only.
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If you are running any of the roms that change the automatic dimming settings than that may be your problem. For some reason, anytime Steel would add that feature to his rom everyone would start having the lockups and screen freezing. Check to see if your rom has altered these settings and if it has remove that update and you should be fine.
Every single kernel I have tried with the exception of netarchy's silverneedle on 2.3.3 has given me random lockups after about a day of use.
I have since reverted back to the Stock kernel on 2.3.4 and all is well.
Yea i have used vipers newest and even went back to the good ol decks ROM and had lock ups I'm on deck now with no custom kernel so i will do more testing then slowly add things to see what the culprit is
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Chauleyboii said:
Yea i have used vipers newest and even went back to the good ol decks ROM and had lock ups I'm on deck now with no custom kernel so i will do more testing then slowly add things to see what the culprit is
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Keep us updated, want to figure these lockups out...
I think its probably more hardware related. I'm stock everything and have had this almost catch fire 3 times now. Not like a little hot, but hot to where I have to put it down. I too have had a bunch of screen freezes lately, only a few force restarts. The high temp thing is random. First was taking video. Second time was uploading a few pics to facebook, third time....this last sunday was a good one. Had it plugged in for about 2.5hrs. My dad grabbed it and threw it down because he didn't expect it to be as hot as it was. I was like WTF? He gave me the phone and it was on fire, with only 25-30 charge. This was using the HTC charging stuff that came with the phone. I keep deleting the battery temp app so i didn't get actual temps at the time. I'm gonna try for a new one tomorrow, hopefully get upgraded to 1.40 from 1.50.
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I think its probably more hardware related. I'm stock everything and have had this almost catch fire 3 times now. Not like a little hot, but hot to where I have to put it down. I too have had a bunch of screen freezes lately, only a few force restarts. The high temp thing is random. First was taking video. Second time was uploading a few pics to facebook, third time....this last sunday was a good one. Had it plugged in for about 2.5hrs. My dad grabbed it and threw it down because he didn't expect it to be as hot as it was. I was like WTF? He gave me the phone and it was on fire, with only 25-30 charge. This was using the HTC charging stuff that came with the phone. I keep deleting the battery temp app so i didn't get actual temps at the time. I'm gonna try for a new one tomorrow, hopefully get upgraded to 1.40 from 1.50.
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That's crazy I never had heating issues like that before!! But maybe ill do everything to get my phone working harder to see if I can create that issue
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Okay so I'm not 100% sure if this is a sure fix, but it seems to have worked for myself and my wife. We both were getting random reboots like crazy and it was getting very annoying. I remembered back in my windows mobile TP2 days that a lot of stuff gets stored on the SD card after constant flashing and tweaks. So in order to get a proper flash u normally would have to reformat ur SD card, wipe, wipe, wipe, and then flash ur ROM. That is exactly what I did with my phone as well as my wife's phone. I formatted our SD cards after backing everything up of course. I backed it up on an external harddrive, formatted, put everything back, formatted the phone with a super wipe zip I found somewhere in the development forum, installed a custom stock Rom I have been tweaking and then booted up my phone and have not had a single random reboot since. So as the title says, it is a possible fix. If u try it then please post so that other users can know if it is actually stopping the reboots or if It's just a placebo effect. Thanks and I hope I've helped someone who is extremely frustrated as I was with their 500 dollar phone randomly rebooting.
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I fixed mine with a buisness card as a shim for the battery lol
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I fixed mine with a buisness card as a shim for the battery lol
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Yeah my battery wasn't loose at all. My phone would also sometimes freeze up and when I rebooted it would just be a black screen. I had to pull the battery to get it working again. I tried the auto brightness fix bit my screen would go black sometimes and rebooting did not fix. I actually had to pull the battery out.
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See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
freeza said:
See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
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Truth. I've never had random reboots and the only reboots I've done were solely manual because of these hardlocks from custom kernels.
If only my phone played nicely with kernels...
freeza said:
See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
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Since we never had this issue with the 4G you think it could just be a borked kernel source from HTC and we are missing some valuable info in it? Or the dual core aspect of it being ours r diff than others being asynchronous, is very touchy to code and adjustments we woulda made on single cores?
Any other of the MSM8660 handsets experiencing this with their custom kernels or is it just ours? If just ours be worth looking at their stable kernel modes source to see difference n what they might be doing differently??
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Since we never had this issue with the 4G you think it could just be a borked kernel source from HTC and we are missing some valuable info in it? Or the dual core aspect of it being ours r diff than others being asynchronous, is very touchy to code and adjustments we woulda made on single cores?
Any other of the MSM8660 handsets experiencing this with their custom kernels or is it just ours? If just ours be worth looking at their stable kernel modes source to see difference n what they might be doing differently??
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I'm leaning more towards HTC's screwed up source. As this problem wasn't present in their 2.3.3 source, at least with netarchy's kernel. There weren't nearly as many kernels to choose from but still.
I've heard a few people say the source was either incomplete or messed up somehow. We can only hope that HTC releases an updated software version with a new kernel so that they're obligated to release the source as well, and this time hopefully it will be complete.
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I fixed mine with a buisness card as a shim for the battery lol
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I used a gum wrapper for mine
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I'm having strange issues as well. My phone will sometimes lockup while using it and then it displays the bootanimation and gets stuck on it and I have to battery pull. And it's actually done it once so far while I was sleeping. ROM is stock but I just decided to finally update it to 2.3.4 so I flashed dastin1015's "[ROM][Sense 3.0][2.3.4][Nov. 3, 2011] Stock 2.08.651.3 Deodexed w/ Hotspot and Beats" over it and rolled. Before I flashed, I nandroid'd, Titanium'd, and My Backup Pro'd. I then booted into TWRP and flashed and rolled. I didn't clean reset before or after because I was worried about losing texts and whatnot. That seemed to go well so I flashed chad.goodman's mildAnthraX and also updated my PRI. And keep in mind I haven't touched the clock settings or voltage. Any ideas? I was considering flashing stock kernel and seeing if that fixes it. If not, then I imagine I will have to do what I least want to and clean reset my phone. Will the logcat help identity the problem here?
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I'm having strange issues as well. My phone will sometimes lockup while using it and then it displays the bootanimation and gets stuck on it and I have to battery pull. And it's actually done it once so far while I was sleeping. ROM is stock but I just decided to finally update it to 2.3.4 so I flashed dastin1015's "[ROM][Sense 3.0][2.3.4][Nov. 3, 2011] Stock 2.08.651.3 Deodexed w/ Hotspot and Beats" over it and rolled. Before I flashed, I nandroid'd, Titanium'd, and My Backup Pro'd. I then booted into TWRP and flashed and rolled. I didn't clean reset before or after because I was worried about losing texts and whatnot. That seemed to go well so I flashed chad.goodman's mildAnthraX and also updated my PRI. And keep in mind I haven't touched the clock settings or voltage. Any ideas? I was considering flashing stock kernel and seeing if that fixes it. If not, then I imagine I will have to do what I least want to and clean reset my phone. Will the logcat help identity the problem here?
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Ur on the exact setup as I am. Kernel and ROM. Stock kernel still did exactly what u mentioned above as well. After formatting my SD card I have yet to have it happen. It's been about 8 days since I formatted. After reading the posts I don't think formatting my SD card is a fix, but I too am leaning towards HTC kernel being messed up. I think sooner or later my phone is going to do it. My phone was doing exactly as u stated. Booting into the splash screen and not going past it. On some occasions my phone would either freeze up or just go black. The hard buttons would light up but not my screen. Hope this gets figured out soon.
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Mine resets between the hours of 71-80 of being on
I'm having the same problem and I do not know how to solve it! I am so close to selling my Evo 3D and going to the SG II.
I have ran CleanRom and currently running Fresh. I have tried Mwalts kernel, Bcblends kernel, and stock kernel from Fresh stock. No matter what I tried, my phone ALWAYS resets between the hours of 71-80 of being on.
The reset happens only when I try to turn on the phone. It turns on, off really quick, then I hit the power button again, the lock screen comes on, then the phone resets. It is getting really annoying as I love having stability and this phone isn't stable at all.
Any ideas? I have exhausted everything I know. I'm running the exact same programs as I have on the Evo 4G and since it is resetting at the same hours always at the same time on different ROMS/Kernels, I'm pretty sure its not app issue. I also tried changing between the 3 radios and no change there. The only other option now is to do a fresh install of Fresh and use it stock and see what happens.
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Try setting min cpu freq to something other than 192000, I use 384000 sleep and 482000 wake. I used to have a reboots and freezes but saw that advice somewhere and gave it a shot. Presto no more issues. Battery life is no worse for wear either. Not saying this will work but worth a try.
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Try setting min cpu freq to something other than 192000, I use 384000 sleep and 482000 wake. I used to have a reboots and freezes but saw that advice somewhere and gave it a shot. Presto no more issues. Battery life is no worse for wear either. Not saying this will work but worth a try.
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already try that
no luck it still keep rebooting while screen off
freeza said:
See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
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my cdma-sense kernels having issues????
RLS9 and RLS14 should be 100% stable - and not based off of htc source
(on pre 2.17 based roms)
i think freeza gave rls9 his seal of approval for stability.. if memory serves correctly
...on my phone i use (not my test phone) im @ 242 hours uptime on rls14 and warm 3.5 r116
...no im not trolling, just looking for feedback
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my cdma-sense kernels having issues????
RLS9 and RLS14 should be 100% stable - and not based off of htc source
(on pre 2.17 based roms)
i think freeza gave rls9 his seal of approval for stability.. if memory serves correctly
...on my phone i use (not my test phone) im @ 242 hours uptime on rls14 and warm 3.5 r116
...no im not trolling, just looking for feedback
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He said that before you found the magic fix I'm pretty sure. Notice that was back from November. Lol
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Huge Thanks
thank you so much for sharing your information my evo 3d was rebooting about every 30 min and i have just been dealing with it because i had took my evo4g into the sprint store because it was rebooting aboutevery 5-10min so they looked at it and couldnt figure it out so the gave me the evo3d for free and i put the sdcard that was in my evo 4g into my evo3d without having any idea that it was the sdcard causing all of my problems so the same thing started to happen to my new evo 3d started off about every day and eventually started to reboot every 30min and i just decided that all htc devices were like this so i have been dealing with it but today i said enough is enough and looked online and saw this thread and wiped my sdcard and sure enough no reboots yet its been about 3 hours so i think its fixed
i cant thank you enough i think it got corrupt from all of the flashing i was doing
son of a ***** right as i was about to hit post the mother ****er rebooted so its not my sdcard after all should i take it in to sprint what do you think ahhh i should have never posted anything it was going so well FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ps hboot 1.4 is the **** no more going to the computer to flash a rom stupid hboot 1.5
I've sometimes had trouble running custom kernels (reboots and strange behaviors) that were fixed when running the stock kernel. But, the stock kernel leaves a lot to be desired in overall performance, so I continue to kernel hop. But, from my lurking on the different ROM forums, it seems that stock is the way to go for stability at the sacrifice of performance.
I had problems with evo rebooting and that in a loop. Very annoying. For that i've changed several roms just to find out that it could probably be because of widgetsoid.
At first the rebooting after some time of use, 1-2 days. And if flashing a different kernel than the one with rom. I was going mad, the last reboot or series of constant reboot after the evo has turned itself on, has occured after i set the brightness to lowest value, it was late so i wanted a darker screen. Interesting it when i set lowest value in system or via leedroid tweaks in widgetsoid widget popup - value im at 12 %. Maybe i got the restarts because i went below 12? Since my brightness im above 12 in widgetsoid and minimal in system, my evo didn't reboot a single time.
Currently i'm at shawn3d rom. Later i'll try some other kernel and rom again and see if the reboots occured.
U get random reboots while using any brightness widget with custom roms. I've narrowed my 3d threshold for the reboots to be anything less than 5%.
No reboots if kept at or above 5% for me...
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i have had success after formatting system/data/cache to ext4 in the ext4 recovery, i had random reboots and lockups while using twrp and not formatting to ext4, (in all honesty i doubt the twrp was too blame)
I'm posting this here because I hope some devs might be able to get a handle on the problem. I think it has something to do with the launcher.
Since I upgraded my phone to a 2.3.4 ROM, I've had constant problems with its randomly rebooting, or occasionally just freezing. (I say "rebooting", but it always gets stuck in a boot loop, and so it might as well be frozen.) The first ROM was Synergy, but I've had the same trouble on Warm, and with three or four different kernels (OC'ed and not OC'ed) on each of those ROM's. In some configurations it's better, and in some it's worse, but I've nearly always had the reboots happen at least once a day. Sometimes it happens while charging, sometimes while it's not; sometimes it happens while I'm touching it, and sometimes when I haven't touched it in hours (kind of annoying when it's my alarm clock--I missed a meeting last week). There's not a lot of consistency in when it happens, though I should say, for the record, that I've been using Launcher Pro the whole time.
Obviously, I'm not the only one with this problem: for some, like me, it started with 2.3.4 (including, in many cases, the stock OTA); for others, it started when the phone was first released; while for others, it's never happened at all. The fact that some people haven't experienced it at all may mean hardware has something to do with it, and I even read one account of a guy who took five different phones back to Sprint for replacements before finding one that worked right.
After searching high and low, I found a thread on the Sprint Community forums that suggested editing the data.prop file to keep the launcher in memory constantly (Look here and scroll down to post #9.). I tried this a couple of days ago, and it hasn't fixed the problem, but it did dramatically reduce it: I went from rebooting every two hours to rebooting once or twice a day.
I've noticed one other interesting thing: a couple of months ago, I started playing Godville, and I've been propping the phone up next to me and letting it idle with the screen on (while on USB), so that I can glance over every once in a while to see if anything is happening in the game. I've noticed that, every few minutes, the home screen wallpaper briefly replaces the app I have open; it happens so fast that I can't tell for sure if the whole launcher is coming up, but I suspect it is. I wonder if this constant yanking of the launcher into the foreground might be the source of the instability.
my mind is like..... blowwwwn
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no but on a serious note man... many people have had problems with reboots since the launch of the 3D, which was 2.3.3 based. I doubt that was the issue (launcher, your update, your games... gnomes...)
i would say flash the RPM PGIMG86423million update whatever that number is for the bootloader update.zip, and see if that rids you from the reboots.
for me, i fixed my reboots by getting a new SD card... i had the same issue when i first got my 3D late in july. Did it both on 2.3.3 base, and 2.3.4... it occurred to me one day that a bad disk would cause system reboots... and not being able to change out the one built into the phone... i opted for the SD card because it was cheap and i wanted a better one anyways. reboots went away immediately.
it also never occurred to me initially that my SD had been bad for a long time... not just when i had my 3D.. on my previous phone (samsung moment with froyo), whenever i would move apps to the SD card, i would always get some kind of error message. trying to move them a couple times would always successfully move the app(s) to the SD card.. i figured this was a problem with the rom i was on (speaking of my samsung moment)...
then when i transferred my card to my 3D, same problem, along with the reboots, and a light clicked on in my brain and said "***k-tard, your SD card is bad. derp."
haven't had a single reboot since then. i even wonder if the paramount number of people having reboot issues on the 3D was due to HTC possibly shipping them with defective SD cards...
just something to mix around in your brain for a bit...
Yeah, I considered the SD card as a problem, but the reboots happen even when the SD card is mounted as a USB drive. Also, a bad SD card wouldn't explain why keeping the launcher in memory dramatically reduces the problem.
I'll be giving it a try.
Just a side note. I've been using the stock kernel lately and havn't had a single reeboot. I'm on synergy rom and since he put back in the stock kernel w/ no OC I've had no issues.
I may try that, but it would be sad to not to able to OC a rooted phone. I'm starting to wonder if it's a bad internal flash drive, though.
You should try a stock ROM to see if that solves your issue if that's doesn't work maybe you have defective phone
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All my problems went away when I used Senseless ROM. I think the kernel in the ROM is stock. It's been over two weeks since my phone has frozen on me and no more random reboots.
Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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I'm having the same reboot issues. I've noticed a few things:
1. Doesn't matter what sd card or how new, my phone reboots unexpectedly
2. Phone ONLY reboots RIGHT when the screen times out. Only on Android 2.3.4 w/ sense! It does not matter what kernel. Whatever I do, all reboots are directly related to sense on 2.3.4.
3. The only solution I have found is to deactivate the screen time out or gut HTC proprietary sense from the ROM.
P.s. I DO NOT have problemswith any ota based off 2.3.3
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Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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Tiamat isn't stable for me.
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Tiamat isn't stable for me.
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Nor for me. It causes daily hard lockups that require a battery pull on my phone. Tiamat exhibited this on multiple ROMs for me.
I think trying a largely stock rom is a must as a start to tracing your problem. So is incremental additions of apps, tweaks, etc. Basic debugging and defect isolation stuff.
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Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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What about bcblend by mwalt? Senseless rom has been using that for quite some time and I haven't had any issues. When it was switched to tiamat for a short time (2.5 & 2.6, i believe) I had problems with lockups and reboots. Reboots would occur when the screen timed out every once in a while.
Just curious OP - have you tried the phone on a newly installed rom without installing any side apps for a day or so and seeing if you have any problems? Back on my old nexus S 4g i had issues with a particular battery app that would give similar problems to what you are experiencing.
Tiamat has not been stable for me either. I tried many different rom and kernel combos and am still having the issue. I noticed it is mostly happeneing when the phone is plugged in. but it also happens sometimes when im on a call. So there has to be more than one issue one being the proximity sensor and i cant figure out the other ive hset charging profiles to 384max and 198 min and other low clock speeds to see if it would help. Also set a temp profile to underclock when its over 38.0 celsius. Right now im running olympus trinity xe titan i ran it for a few days with mild anthrax and it only froze/rebooted a few times a day. I tried the anthrax kernel and it rebooted twice the first half hour so i flashed tiamat last night. Im trying to give it time to settle in but it just rebooted again when i plugged into pc. I bought my phone used and rooted before i even activated it so i dont know if this is something kernel/rom related. I started another thread a few days ago about this and the few responses i got were people running stock romand kernel not rooted. So i guess all we can hope for is the devs to figure it out or sprint to give us an ota that fixes it since im starting to belive its a hardware issue.
If you're on titan freezas is recommended.
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I saw a few people talking about that but I thought they were talking about for when he released Hades. I'm gonna find the dl link now thanks.
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Just curious OP - have you tried the phone on a newly installed rom without installing any side apps for a day or so and seeing if you have any problems? Back on my old nexus S 4g i had issues with a particular battery app that would give similar problems to what you are experiencing.
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Not for that long a period, no--unfortunately, I haven't been in a position where I could give up most of the use of my phone for that long. Once I have grades submitted next Monday, I can probably do more methodical testing.
I'm still freaked out by the way the launcher pops up every few minutes, though--has anyone else ever seen anything like that?
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One of my favorite rom and kernel combo's is infected eternity with anthrax but random reboots are common for me with any sense based rom. I run MIUI with whatever aosp kernel and everything is flawless. Other than experimenting with kernels to find battery life, MIUI is the most stable rom I have used so far and is my new daily driver!
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My evo also reboots and i havent rooted my phone at all. I did get a new SD card and that reduced the amounts of reboots i get! . Although, i still get a few every week.
hope sprint/person finds a fix for this soon.
Mine did it stock / rooted stock and viper ROM I an on fresh and so far smooth as butter ... Stock rooted was awful every time it would time out bam reboot
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Hi Guys,
Im no Genius when it comes to android, but I have done my fair share of programming before, but my SOD are killing me and a last resort is a warranty exchange as I cannot be without a phone.
So far I have been getting SOD about 5 times a day if not more, and I am one for tinkering with gadgets until i break or crash it, fix it and doing it all over again.
But anyway back on topic
I have noticed this in the build.prop
" persist.ril.mux.sleep=2 "
And so I wondered if this is causing my SOD, does anyone have any ideas regarding its uses?
Findings (as of 2155)
In my testing thus far I have changed it to "persist.ril.mux.sleep=1" using phone leaving it for an hour doing it over just for fun, And I have been SOD for 5 hours straight and haven't had any SOD or adverse battery drain
I mean this may not be the cause of the SOD for me, or anybody but I am up for trying just about anything
What is SOD?
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I have SOD here too. To me it's only happens when I turned off a data connection (3G or wifi).
I use LoadMonitor app as a workaround for a while, with success.
At now I'm using Neutrino 2.5 CM7 ROM with success too. I think it's more a blur rom problem than cm7 one.
Let us know about your progress.
So if you disable load manager you would get SOD?
I am making a script to update a few things so far no SOD for me, after a few tweaks
What settings are you using on load manager ?
Any info you can give me will help in me tracking down some of the errors and temporary fixes people are using to avoid the dreaded issue
Oh, THAT's what that was!
I forgot to turn the wifi back on a few nights ago when I said "Hey, let's watch some movies on netflix with my super-duper mirroring-abled phone!" So an hour into it, LBE Privacy warns me I'm about to max out my data, and I go turn the damn wifi back on but turned OFF the 3G.
Then last night I go to wake up my phone and the screen is "black but on", & took a couple of tries to wake it. I'm on Nottachtrix.
Harrison85 said:
So if you disable load manager you would get SOD?
I am making a script to update a few things so far no SOD for me, after a few tweaks
What settings are you using on load manager ?
Any info you can give me will help in me tracking down some of the errors and temporary fixes people are using to avoid the dreaded issue
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I'm a bit confused here. I don't know what "load manager" is.
What a sad is I used LoadMonitor app (from market) as a workaround.
LoadMonitor just monitor taks that are running in your device. But it have an option that claims to prevent device deep sleep. So, when I checked this option my device don't get SOD.
It's a workaround, as I sad, and I don't know how LoadMonitor do that.
What is load manager?
Thanks
I had a similar issue, I installed SetCPU and set my minimum speed to ~456(faux 1.45 Kernel).
Never had the problem since.
cldot said:
I had a similar issue, I installed SetCPU and set my minimum speed to ~456(faux 1.45 Kernel).
Never had the problem since.
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cldot do you use blur rom or cm7 one?
Thanks
My bad meant load monitor
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I tried some roms and the only one I hadn't random reboots was jokersax11 alpha7 (ICI), now I'm on beta 0.2.0 and had reboots.
I'm having the same problem. I've tried 3 different ROMs. I used Nottachtrix, following the directions to the letter with reboots and hard locks. Recently I flashed back to 4.5.91 (w/pudding) and I was having the same issues. I noticed that on the hard locks, my phone appeared to be warm, so I used SetCPU at 216MHz and still had hard locks and random reboots. I've not set the lowest setting at 301 and so far I haven't had any reboots, but its only been about 5 hours. But I was having them at least once every few hours.
BTW - I also noticed that I only had the freezes and hard locks when the phone was running on the battery. I rarely had problems when the phone was on the dock or USB charger, however, I did have reboots when it was on the wall charger.
Another program you can try is call 'Wake Lock' available from the marketplace. I haven't used it yet, I'm still experimenting with load monitor.
Wake lock has a few different options and has some really good review.
I confirmed that Neutrino 2.5 CM7 Rom works great without reboots.
That's a patch you need to apply to correct a battery drain problem of the original version. Notorious544d are working in a 2.6 version including that patch.
To me it's working like a charm. I'm testing for two days but, of course, everyone needs to test it in your own device.
PS: Follow this instructions to install a battery drain patch in Neutrino 2.5 (or wait for a 2.6 version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23179486&postcount=4258
Update 13/03/2012: Notorious544d released Neutrino ROM 2.5p with battery patch and some other things.
See you!
what patch?
marcosvafg said:
I confirmed that Neutrino 2.5 CM7 Rom works great without reboots.
That's a patch you need to apply to correct a battery drain problem of the original version. Notorious544d are working in a 2.6 version including the patch.
To me it's working like a charm. I'm testing for two days but, of course, everyone needs to test in your own device.
See you!
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Could you point me to that patch? I can't seem to find it. Thank you
Sleep Of DEATH!!!
I was encountering that problem for a while but then I figured that something went wrong when I was flashing CM7 Beta. So I flashed Aura's ROM, and then Reflashed CM7 Beta and only experienced it once a month at most after that, Hope it helps
eNorby said:
Could you point me to that patch? I can't seem to find it. Thank you
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Follow this instructions (or wait for a 2.6 version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23179486&postcount=4258
Update 13/03/2012: Notorious544d released Neutrino ROM 2.5p with battery patch and some other things.
Atrix SOD & Random reboots related to Wifi?
Does anyone know if the Atrix SOD & Random reboots are related to WiFi. I've had my wifi off all day and I've had no crashes.
I'm going to run it for a few more days without Wifi and see what happens.
I don't know about other guys, but wifi and 3G was the cause of my Atrix SOD and reboot problems.
Solved it using Neutrino Rom CM7 based.
See you!
Still working on my SOD issue, but recently, I disabled most power options, turned off wifi, rebooted and I've been running for 2 days with no crashes. After day 3, I'm going to turn wifi back on reboot and see what happens.
Update 1
After 3 days with wifi disabled, I've had no crashes, no freezes or random reboots. I'm going to enable wifi again and see what happens.
Update 2
After turning enabling my wifi and using it briefly then turning it back off, I had a random reboot later that evening.
The more I used my wifi, the more frequent my crashes became.
Interesting side note
I can enable all my radios when plugged into the desktop charger and I won't experience any crashes, however, if plugged into to the AC charger, I've had reboots and freezes.
I have intermittent issues with Sense-based roms, that I also experienced on stock that I'm wondering if anyone else has or has a fix for. Basically, sporadically the brightness toggle in the Power Control widget becomes very slow for the hardware to respond. Another issue that may be related as this happens with phone calls too, and I suspect the two may be related if it is the result of a background process being killed by Sense's own aggressive background process killing.
I'll hit the toggle and get immediate visual feedback (button effect occurs on the UI), I'll hit it a few more times with still no effect. Then, maybe 5-10 seconds later, the actual screen brightness will start toggling like crazy based on how many times I clicked it. Similarly in the phone app, if I dial a number and hit the button to connect, nothing happens. It just hangs out for like 5-10+ seconds then if I'm lucky actually goes to connect the call. This issue occurs sporadically, and seems to be independent of any load-based factors. I suspect it's a software issue as I don't experience anything of the sort under CM10... I would love to just stay on CM10 but I have a variety of radio-based issues with that that make this not an acceptable avenue (sadly).
Any help/feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Those are all definitely Sense related problems and its from problems like yours that I switched to CM10. Can you go into further depth with your radio problem?
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Those are all definitely Sense related problems and its from problems like yours that I switched to CM10. Can you go into further depth with your radio problem?
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I tried the latest stable available from CM, as well as Deck's latest CM10 and have been experiencing the following symptoms that, unfortunately, despite how AWESOME my phone feels on CM10 over Sense, they're a deal breaker for me.
GPS Issue: For some odd reason the phone has trouble holding onto a GPS lock. For me it is specifically glaring in Google Maps Navigation where I'm driving along fine with a lock on my position, then Navigation will zoom out with only very broad accuracy (assume via radio-location) and say the message to the effect of "Looking for GPS" for 10-15+ seconds, reacquires a lock, holds it for maybe 1-2 minutes, then rinses/repeats. I did try the Sense GPS fix for this to no avail.
Phone Issue: I've read a lot of people having LTE issues w/ this, but with no LTE avail in my area this is the least of my concerns. My problem is that it seems to sporadically lose CDMA connectivity or something...the network status indicator switches to this right-aligned right triangle Just like this one in the attached image labelled "Emergency Calls". This occurs even if I switch the network to CDMA only... Not a HUGE annoyance except for when I'm on a call, it gets immediately dropped and I look at my phone and that damn icon is showing for network status, though it comes back to service within about 5 seconds. I have tried flashing the updated radios from themikmik, though that didn't seem to pacify the problem.
So yeah, that's why I'm back on this damn bloated Sense If you have any suggestions on how to fix either of these I would be forever in your debt
Honestly, I've run Sense 90% of the time since I got mine the first day it was available without these issues... I know some people reported contact lag but I've never seen it and most sense roms claim to have a fix for it built in.
I'm on the lastest stock OTA rooted and I just sat like an idiot mashing the brightness button for 2 straight minutes with no lag, just smooth transitions in brightness. Even the switch animation worked smoothly the whole time. You may have too many apps installed, or one particular app causing it.
Edit: Maybe you already use this but if not, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700211
You might even have a bad wipe,
Edit #2: And now after mashing it a bunch more times I finally replicated it lol.. Hmmm, I guess I was wrong. But its really a hard to replicate bug unless your using your power widget to turn your phone into a strobe light.
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rubyknight said:
Honestly, I've run Sense 90% of the time since I got mine the first day it was available without these issues... I know some people reported contact lag but I've never seen it and most sense roms claim to have a fix for it built in.
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I know it isn't something everyone experiences; Though I'm more concerned with those who may have experienced, and have discovered a fix. I've tried virtually every Sense ROM in high consumption hoping this will go away including MeanROM, CleanROM DE 1.5 (was my favorite for a long time, but problem resurfaced there), Viper4G. This issue occurring in stock is what prompted me to try a custom rom to begin with.
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I'm on the lastest stock OTA rooted and I just sat like an idiot mashing the brightness button for 2 straight minutes with no lag, just smooth transitions in brightness. Even the switch animation worked smoothly the whole time. You may have too many apps installed, or one particular app causing it.
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I'm on MeanROM 6.5, and just did the same thing you did successfully. It's an intermittent issue that doesn't occur most of the time... but when it DOES occur it is extremely annoying. I will try to see if I can determine if another app could be causing this, but if there is it is just another thing that makes me hate Sense... changing screen brightness and initiating a phone call should be some pretty low-level API calls that shouldn't be dependent on or affected by other running apps... supported by the fact that I have never experienced this issue on CM10 or any of the other AOSP-based roms despite having all the same apps running.
rubyknight said:
Edit: Maybe you already use this but if not, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700211
You might even have a bad wipe,
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Yeah, I user superwipe between every ROM install.
It's not a certain app in general. The main culprit is sense. That process/software causes the whole phone to be a lag machine regardless of what rom you have it on. Trust me I went through stock and viper4g(which I super wiped prior to installing) and still no prevail. HTC is going to have to fix sense BIG TIME to get rid of these lag issues.
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It's not a certain app in general. The main culprit is sense. That process/software causes the whole phone to be a lag machine regardless of what rom you have it on. Trust me I went through stock and viper4g(which I super wiped prior to installing) and still no prevail. HTC is going to have to fix sense BIG TIME to get rid of these lag issues.
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Not sure what phone your using but on mine its running beautifully Meanrom is my favorite but I'm literally on stock right now with no lag... I can swipe through the fully loaded homescreens with no problems. Lag just isn't an issue... It's not the same as vanilla ics/jb but its definitely not laggy.
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Not sure what phone your using but on mine its running beautifully Meanrom is my favorite but I'm literally on stock right now with no lag... I can swipe through the fully loaded homescreens with no problems. Lag just isn't an issue... It's not the same as vanilla ics/jb but its definitely not laggy.
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I assume he's referring to the idea that people use their phones for more things than just swiping between home screens... compared to CM10, basic things like launching apps feels like driving down the street with cement in your trunk.
Ok your right its not laggy but there is literally no multitasking and some other processes like earbud remote controls literally takes half a minute for the phone to process. Sense is just bad for your phone.
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I assume he's referring to the idea that people use their phones for more things than just swiping between home screens... compared to CM10, basic things like launching apps feels like driving down the street with cement in your trunk.
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Absolutely, 100% spot on.