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Let me first start off by saying thank you to all the devs that continue to develop on this device. You're time and efforts do not go unappreciated. But alas, it seems this phone was a real flop, and I don't get why. Compared to every other device I've owned, this one, by far has the least options, in terms of mods, ROMs, and kernels, especially the AT&T variant. Am I wrong? Or, if you agree, why do you suppose that is? Does it have to do with the release date, the lack of s-off? As far as I'm concerned, this is a great device, the only thing it lacks is aokp/cyanogenmod support. It's fast, the screen is great, battery life is good. What's the deal?
Personally I think it's a combination of the lack of s-off and the pricetag.
The price would be a lot less of an issue if it was s-off though. At any rate with other really nice phones on the market for the same money or less with comparable hardware(more or less) and s-off it's not a big shock that the devs gravitate towards those instead.
At any rate, like you, I'm just grateful for the devs we do have on board.
it as absolutely nothing to do with s-on vs. s-off
as far as the att version is concerned the problem is only htc
deleivering AOSP incompatible drivers
This phone also don't provide any "daily use" noticeable enhancement over other phones... Eg. the OneX...
The int. version even don't have LTE as other new phones have (eg. the much cheaper Xperia V, that was released at the same time, and also have a far better camera)...
So there is a number of reasons...
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i honestly believe its down to the number of units sold, more phones out there means more people using them. That in turn means more people developing for it. When you think about it the original HOX was sold by most networks for a considerably long amount of time whereas the plus was only sold by a couple of networks in the UK anyway and for a much shorter amount of time. There was alot of competition while the HOX+ was around in the UK too which doesn't help with numbers. Looking around here I think its clear more of the LTE versions where sold which limits development down again. In short the cards where stacked against this great phone which is really a shame :crying:
I will say however no matter which phone I own I mostly only play around with a couple of stock based roms and a couple of CM & AOKP based ones. Now luckly for me we have 2 of each which are really worth trying so i'm happy for the most part :victory:
Oh and coming from the xperia z I can tell you you are not missing much
I would +1 for the number of units sold. This phone is pretty brand new in the market here in UAE = 4 months .. by that time S3 was ruling the market and market which had a bad impression about OneX did not think twice about what OneX+ can do.
Its definitely better than s3 in all the ways for me. 64 Gigs and 2100 mAh, what else do we need ?
So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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Yeah maybe if you root it. I had it for about a year and recently sold mine. Never needed to root it for my purposes, and after the 4.3 update it seemed pretty smooth. Only problems I had with it were random restarts (could be software/certain apps related) and it sometimes churned quite a bit on graphically intense web pages. I think there's just not quite enough power under the hood for that screen resolution. It got pretty hot and stuttered on intense games after playing for about an hour. I am waiting for the next one, hopefully it will have a little more "umph." Other than that, I loved it, and am now missing it as I wait for Google to get around to finally releasing the next one.
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Yeah maybe if you root it. I had it for about a year and recently sold mine. Never needed to root it for my purposes, and after the 4.3 update it seemed pretty smooth. Only problems I had with it were random restarts (could be software/certain apps related) and it sometimes churned quite a bit on graphically intense web pages. I think there's just not quite enough power under the hood for that screen resolution. It got pretty hot and stuttered on intense games after playing for about an hour. I am waiting for the next one, hopefully it will have a little more "umph." Other than that, I loved it, and am now missing it as I wait for Google to get around to finally releasing the next one.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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The original nexus 10 is made by Samsung, not Asus. Asus is purported to be the manufacturer of the new one. The build quality on the original is decent. The back is kind of wonkey, but it feels solid over-all. I'm certain there's loads of support for ROMs. It is a very popular tablet. I doubt they will give a lot more speed though. It's not like there was an abundance of bloatware on the original. When I rooted my Galaxy S3, I saw massive gains in speed, but that was bloat heaven. I just don't see that being the case for this tablet. Maybe I'm wrong, don't know, haven't researched it.
If you don't like Asus, then don't wait around for the next one though. All signs and rumors say they are the manufacturer. Remember though, this is Google overseeing the manufacturer, so the build quality may end up surprising you. We'll just have to wait and see.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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Part of the problem with this and any device, outside the initial release time, you rarely see individuals post about how much they like the device.
That said, I like my N10. And even with the rumored release of a new 2nd gen, I'd purchase the N10 again at the recent discounted pricing.
Samsung had improved the build quality as time went by, so you see a lot less posting about light bleed issues. The memory leak from the Mali GPU has been solved with the 4.3 release.
Mine also doesn't flex on the back, so it doesn't have the cheap feel that has been reported in the past.
If you don't require cutting edge, get the Samsung Google Nexus 10.
That said, the 2nd generation is almost any time now, I think it's worth waiting to see what it's like and the reviews from users in the forums.
I'm still having memory issues with mine, even after 4.3. (Reboots once a week, and if I try to load it like I did my original Prime it reboots more often) so I'm waiting for the 2013 Nexus to see if it's good enough to replace my current Nexus 10.
Nexus 10
I agree with the one of the previous posters in that most of the threads that you will see are regarding help and problems. If everything is working well, people generally tend not to make posts.
I love my N10. I even got it refurbished from Walmart and have no problems with it at all. I have rooted and installed custom ROMs as well. I love the feel, the speed and resolution. I use it daily. Since I got it, I rarely use my laptop anymore.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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I don't think you'd regret it. Its a great tablet though a lot of the models have light bleed so its something to watch out for and make sure it isn't too bad on yours. Usually it isn't very noticeable unless u look for it though
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You wont be disappointed. Nexus 10 is my first tablet, tho I have tried/used many. The screen is amazing, and the tablet is very responsive. Never had any problems with it. The day I got it, I unlocked it, rooted it, and installed CyanogenMod. Currently using a nightly build of CM 10.2 (4.3). The build quality isnt that bad either. The speakers are huge compared to what other tablets have, so you can expect good sound quality too.
My Nexus 10 has been great from day one. Now on 4.3 and have never had a problem.
No problems or complains with mine. The screen is excellent especially for reading which is a reason I bought it. I don't calibrate for color or look for light bleed, its a good tablet for the money and just as good if not better than the ipad4. I guess if I could suggest one improvement, it needs extended battery life.
That said, we're pretty sure the new Nexus 10 will be released in a week or two, I'd wait. The current model will be discounted if you see nothing you'd like with the new one.
Hi!
I have currently nexus 7 (2012) tablet and I've been thinking of updating it with 10" tablet. One of the greatest tablets on paper is xperia z2 tablet but there are couple things that make me think about some other device (nexus 9 or some samsung tablets). That is custom software support.. I've been using cm for a long time on my devices and luckly z2 has official cm12 support. My concern is however how stable is the device tree of z2 and recovery support seems to be everything else but good. No TWRP, not even unofficial as far as I can see. Otherwise sony's tablet seems to be hardwarewise device and that's why I'm seriusly thinking of buying one. If someone could recommend/not recommend this tablet to me or give me any other information about the device I'd appreciate it a lot!
Regards,
rockknee
I have both Nexus 7's a Nexus 9 and a tablet Z2.
Paid about the same for N9 and tab Z2, about $400 new.
N9 is heavy and thick compared to Z2 tab, but may have more CPU power. I don't use them much except for app testing and light reading.
I much prefer the Z2 tab to the N9 due to lighter, thinner and FM radio.
Tab Z2 (and Sony in general) development is low.
But N9 is a relatively unpopular Nexus too...
As long as you're aware you're getting last generation cpu/graphics (which BTW snapdragon 801 is still plenty fast), its still a great tablet.
- Thin and light
- Great build
- Snappy
- Relatively clean / close-to-stock software build, the tweaks actually add value/functionality and improve on stock (quick settings toggles, stamina mode, mount windows shares etc.)
- SD card
- No complaints on the screen whatsoever. Sure its 'only' 1080p but I can't see the pixels so I don't care
- Software buttons means its actually usable when rotated in whatever orientation you use. I know some samsung owners who really regret their purchases because they like to use their tablets one way, and samsung has hard buttons the other way
As long as the price reflects the fact it came out a year ago, its still a good choice.
Yeah dev is dead but
- there's nothing wrong with stock at all. I've been flashing since Nexus One and I've had zero inclination to custom this.
- we're definitely getting official lollipop shortly
- BL unlock is officially available if you want CWM/TWRP anyway. (look harder in the dev forums... defo CWM/TWRP available)
so nothing to see here IMO
mikereidis said:
I have both Nexus 7's a Nexus 9 and a tablet Z2.
Paid about the same for N9 and tab Z2, about $400 new.
N9 is heavy and thick compared to Z2 tab, but may have more CPU power. I don't use them much except for app testing and light reading.
I much prefer the Z2 tab to the N9 due to lighter, thinner and FM radio.
Tab Z2 (and Sony in general) development is low.
But N9 is a relatively unpopular Nexus too...
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As long as you're aware you're getting last generation cpu/graphics (which BTW snapdragon 801 is still plenty fast), its still a great tablet.
- Thin and light
- Great build
- Snappy
- Relatively clean / close-to-stock software build, the tweaks actually add value/functionality and improve on stock (quick settings toggles, stamina mode, mount windows shares etc.)
- SD card
- No complaints on the screen whatsoever. Sure its 'only' 1080p but I can't see the pixels so I don't care
- Software buttons means its actually usable when rotated in whatever orientation you use. I know some samsung owners who really regret their purchases because they like to use their tablets one way, and samsung has hard buttons the other way
As long as the price reflects the fact it came out a year ago, its still a good choice.
Yeah dev is dead but
- there's nothing wrong with stock at all. I've been flashing since Nexus One and I've had zero inclination to custom this.
- we're definitely getting official lollipop shortly
- BL unlock is officially available if you want CWM/TWRP anyway. (look harder in the dev forums... defo CWM/TWRP available)
so nothing to see here IMO
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Thanks for these opinions and experiences guys! I really feel like xperia z2 might be better device for me due to it's larger screen compared to nexus 9 and the ratio is also much better for watching movies and so on. Now that I've been testing the device on couple stores I've noticed that the screen responsiveness is far from best. Could be also just problem on some z2 tablets and caused by people "giving hard time" for these test models at the stores.. Have you noticed touchscreen problems? I mean one device was absolutely ****ed up on one of the stores I visited, even scrolling thru homescreens was very painful and didn't leave very good impression at all.
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rockknee
none on mine, doesn't miss a beat.
There were people here talking re: bad touchscreen when it was first released, but I believe it got ironed out with later firmware / later batches
Running it with CM12 and i love my Z2 Castor Windy.
Z2 is now on the way! I found nice sale from one Finnish store, approximately 394$ price and 32gb model. I think it was a great deal, can't wait to get my hands on it! Thanks guys!
Hey everyone. Some of you may have seen me before on various LG forums, like the Optimus G, and the G2 (I've definitely seen some of you guys before on the OG forums), and I have a question for you guys who own the Sprint G3. Are you guys happy with your device? Like ROM wise, battery life, the entire experience in general. As of today March 1st, I'm eligible for an upgrade, and I was thinking of getting the G3. But I've been ghosting around the forums to spot any rooting quirks and goofs, and I've seen some regarding data on custom ROMs and stuff, which I'm kinda on the fence about. I'm planning on keeping my N5 for the AOSP ROMs, but this phone has terrible battery life, compared to the G2 I've owned for two weeks before I permanently switched to the N5. I see there's a decent selection of AOSP ROMs available for the G3, but I'm not too worried about that because I have my Nexus.
Tl;Dr: are you guys happy with your G3, and do you think its worth the upgrade, or should I wait for new devices to come out?
Get on GSM if you can. This CDMA crap has an always be problematic. GSM phones get way more love than the stupid sprint cdma garbage. We have great stuff going on here. Yet still better support for GSM. Battery life is great and the phone rocks.
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As for me I am seriously contemplating getting a Nexus 6 just so I can get stock android without CDMA problems. All I want is stock. If I had the knowledge to make this phone what I want I would. I do not so I am at the will of others. No complaints though. So much great stuff has happened for this LS990.
As a previous owner of several G2's (Sprint variants) I'm happy that I now have a G3 finally (and yes it's the Sprint model). Having said that, I'm currently "stuck" at the moment because of a damaged digitizer but I'll be ordering a new display assembly here in short order hopefully.
Comparing the G3 vs the N5 directly it's pretty blatantly obvious that the G3 is vastly superior in most every respect that matters - I'm wondering if you meant to say the N6 instead because that would be more aligned in a comparison in terms of hardware:
- same resolution screens albeit LCD vs AMOLED, 5.5" vs 5.96" - the G3 "looks" sharper because of the much higher PPI at 538 vs 493 for the N6 - I have two friends that own an N6 at this time and the one thing I hear from them most often is they love the color saturation of the AMOLED panel but they wish it was LCD because in direct sunlight the AMOLED just washes out pretty severely, and I am the same way: I love AMOLED color representation but outside in daylight, forget it, the G3 wins without question (my opinion based on my own usage and experience, however)
- the N6 is technically more powerful with the Snapdragon 805 at 2.7 GHz vs the G3 with the 801 at 2.5 GHz but the difference is negligible in actual day to day performance
- 3GB of RAM in each device (given you have the 32GB model from Sprint) so that's a draw
- form factor isn't that different save for getting used to the G3 having the rear mounted controls, it takes a little getting used to but in the long run I've come to find it works fine for me after that "honeymoon" period
- pure stock Android on the N6 vs the very nicely themed G3 experience, this one is simply a personal preference and nothing more: I prefer the G3's UI actually; when I had my G2(s) over the past year I ran CloudyG3 on them (now properly renamed to CloudyG2, however) and loved it. I can see why people prefer the stock Android even in spite of them using some third party launcher like Nova or something else even so
- microSD slot for increased storage + the removable battery pushes the G3 into the lead for me, however - I'm not saying it's better automagically just because the hardware supports it, I'm saying that for me it's better because I prefer such aspects in my smartphones, those two things were lacking in the G2 and I'm happy that LG came around and added them because it makes the G3 nearly perfect to me (I wish it just had a 1920x1080 display, however)
- battery life is an important aspect as well and I'm confident that the G3 with Lollipop (since it's now available, even for the Sprint variant) should get improved battery life (there's that memory glitch with 5.0.1 but I'm sure it'll be addressed soon enough). Can't speak for the N5 or the N6 with respect to battery life but I'm pretty sure the G3 may give better results. GSMArena gave the N6 a 70 hour endurance rating and the G3 a 63 in the same test, so they're very similar overall depending on usage
Also realize that because of how the G3 is designed with the back-mounted buttons, the 5.5" display on it and the entire casing of the G3 takes up less space than the N6 does - the N6 is a very large device overall, a monster sized phone these days so that may play into your decision as well. There's a size comparison at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBrbCB50wJ0 - pretty dramatic difference.
But these kinds of comparisons are a dime a dozen these days, you've probably done the research already anyway, iamterence, so none of this is really new. What you have to decide is only something you can decide, as the case may be:
Which device suits your needs and requirements best...
What I suggest to people is sit down for a few minutes and do a pros/cons list of the things you need and require a smartphone in today's world to do for you given your usage expectations, then find a device that most closely matches the pros while having the least cons. It takes a while to do it obviously but when you're done you should have a lock on which device will be your choice.
If it's the G3 vs the N5, I'll take the G3 anytime. If it's the G3 vs the N6, I'd still take the G3 because I just prefer what it offers - pure stock Android on a Nexus is a nice thing, but it's lacking to me in many respects.
Also, I do agree with what was said above about the CDMA vs GSM thing overall but the G2 and the G3 really don't have much issues with getting GSM functionality. I personally can't stand LTE for various reasons but that's another thread altogether, so for me using HSPA+ on these devices is better in my situation and gives me 35Mbps or better where I live in Las Vegas which is pretty much saturated by T-Mobile service (my carrier of choice). If your intention - as a Sprint customer - is to use the device with that carrier then that whole CDMA vs GSM thing is a moot point anyway. If, however, you hope to use the device with another provider based on AT&T or T-Mobile's networks aka GSM then understand that unlocking the domestic GSM usage for the G3 isn't that tough at all, really.
Again, do the list, find what you need and require then match it.
I'd say grab the G3 and run with it but, you're the one that has to make the final decision.
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KnockOn/KnockOff/KnockCode... once you start using it you will seriously wonder why every smartphone hasn't been doing this since day one.
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As a previous owner of several G2's (Sprint variants) I'm happy that I now have a G3 finally (and yes it's the Sprint model). Having said that, I'm currently "stuck" at the moment because of a damaged digitizer but I'll be ordering a new display assembly here in short order hopefully.
Comparing the G3 vs the N5 directly it's pretty blatantly obvious that the G3 is vastly superior in most every respect that matters - I'm wondering if you meant to say the N6 instead because that would be more aligned in a comparison in terms of hardware:
- same resolution screens albeit LCD vs AMOLED, 5.5" vs 5.96" - the G3 "looks" sharper because of the much higher PPI at 538 vs 493 for the N6 - I have two friends that own an N6 at this time and the one thing I hear from them most often is they love the color saturation of the AMOLED panel but they wish it was LCD because in direct sunlight the AMOLED just washes out pretty severely, and I am the same way: I love AMOLED color representation but outside in daylight, forget it, the G3 wins without question (my opinion based on my own usage and experience, however)
- the N6 is technically more powerful with the Snapdragon 805 at 2.7 GHz vs the G3 with the 801 at 2.5 GHz but the difference is negligible in actual day to day performance
- 3GB of RAM in each device (given you have the 32GB model from Sprint) so that's a draw
- form factor isn't that different save for getting used to the G3 having the rear mounted controls, it takes a little getting used to but in the long run I've come to find it works fine for me after that "honeymoon" period
- pure stock Android on the N6 vs the very nicely themed G3 experience, this one is simply a personal preference and nothing more: I prefer the G3's UI actually; when I had my G2(s) over the past year I ran CloudyG3 on them (now properly renamed to CloudyG2, however) and loved it. I can see why people prefer the stock Android even in spite of them using some third party launcher like Nova or something else even so
- microSD slot for increased storage + the removable battery pushes the G3 into the lead for me, however - I'm not saying it's better automagically just because the hardware supports it, I'm saying that for me it's better because I prefer such aspects in my smartphones, those two things were lacking in the G2 and I'm happy that LG came around and added them because it makes the G3 nearly perfect to me (I wish it just had a 1920x1080 display, however)
- battery life is an important aspect as well and I'm confident that the G3 with Lollipop (since it's now available, even for the Sprint variant) should get improved battery life (there's that memory glitch with 5.0.1 but I'm sure it'll be addressed soon enough). Can't speak for the N5 or the N6 with respect to battery life but I'm pretty sure the G3 may give better results. GSMArena gave the N6 a 70 hour endurance rating and the G3 a 63 in the same test, so they're very similar overall depending on usage
Also realize that because of how the G3 is designed with the back-mounted buttons, the 5.5" display on it and the entire casing of the G3 takes up less space than the N6 does - the N6 is a very large device overall, a monster sized phone these days so that may play into your decision as well. There's a size comparison at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBrbCB50wJ0 - pretty dramatic difference.
But these kinds of comparisons are a dime a dozen these days, you've probably done the research already anyway, iamterence, so none of this is really new. What you have to decide is only something you can decide, as the case may be:
Which device suits your needs and requirements best...
What I suggest to people is sit down for a few minutes and do a pros/cons list of the things you need and require a smartphone in today's world to do for you given your usage expectations, then find a device that most closely matches the pros while having the least cons. It takes a while to do it obviously but when you're done you should have a lock on which device will be your choice.
If it's the G3 vs the N5, I'll take the G3 anytime. If it's the G3 vs the N6, I'd still take the G3 because I just prefer what it offers - pure stock Android on a Nexus is a nice thing, but it's lacking to me in many respects.
Also, I do agree with what was said above about the CDMA vs GSM thing overall but the G2 and the G3 really don't have much issues with getting GSM functionality. I personally can't stand LTE for various reasons but that's another thread altogether, so for me using HSPA+ on these devices is better in my situation and gives me 35Mbps or better where I live in Las Vegas which is pretty much saturated by T-Mobile service (my carrier of choice). If your intention - as a Sprint customer - is to use the device with that carrier then that whole CDMA vs GSM thing is a moot point anyway. If, however, you hope to use the device with another provider based on AT&T or T-Mobile's networks aka GSM then understand that unlocking the domestic GSM usage for the G3 isn't that tough at all, really.
Again, do the list, find what you need and require then match it.
I'd say grab the G3 and run with it but, you're the one that has to make the final decision.
ps
KnockOn/KnockOff/KnockCode... once you start using it you will seriously wonder why every smartphone hasn't been doing this since day one.
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You say that you're stick with Sprint because you have a damaged digitizer for your G3; is that because you flashed a ROM, or what? Because I remember back on the G2 forums, there was a VERY widespread screen damage problem that happened to a lot of people who flashed ROMs, and even to people who didn't. If that's a problem here as well, then I am instantly turned off, because that problem is just beyond stupid.
I know that GSM devices get mostly all the love as well, being stuck on CDMA myself for the past 3 years and counting. But the way I view it as: since I already have a Nexus device, with the G3, I'm actually gonna take the chance to appreciate stock debloated software, and maybe go AOSP if I'm feeling bored, but I plan on keeping my Nexus just in case I feel like going back to AOSP. But, to be completely honest though, AOSP gets a little boring after a while. See, I like minimal ROMs. I've flash a lot of ROMs on my device, but I always find myself coming back to near-vanilla ROMs, because I'm just not into all those features like that. Just give me a theme engine/RRO support, and maybe even a center clock mod, and I'm good to go.
Speaking of RRO, are there any ROMs here that support that yet? I really haven't looker, but Layers themes are AMAZING. I feel like they run more efficiently than the theme engine, but that can be a strictly placebo affect. If not, I know there's definitely theme engine, so I'm good either ways.
I'm actually kinda leaning towards the G3 myself now, and have been for a little while now. I guess I just needed something to solidify my decision. Really not into HTC phones, nor am I a big fan of Touchwiz, even with their clean slate revisiting. LG phones have never done me any wrong (Well, except for the G2 with it's screen problems), and we didn't get a 2nd gen Moto X, otherwise I'd hop on that in a heartbeat. The Nexus 6 is WAY too goddamn big for me, like way past my comfort zone. I travel across the country in a touring metal band, so something stupid would be bound to happen if I were to get that phone. I'd feel a lot more safer with that phone than with the goddamn whale that is the N6. But, like I said, I'd be getting the G3 to actually appreciate the stock LG software rather than trying to go nuts with AOSP.
If anything, if I don't like the G3, I'll just sell it for $250 or something.
No, I bought it with a cracked digitizer for $50 - the G3 itself is without any noticeable flaws and works great but the digitizer being cracked and non-functional leaves me with a device I can't use till I replace that (meaning the entire display assembly since the LCD and digitizer are fused; technically it's possible to separate them but I lack the expertise and the necessary hardware plus it's just not worth the hassles). The G2 issues in the past were an actual manufacturing defect on some particular devices, iirc, I could be wrong about that but it had something to do with specific LCD panels made by a specific manufacturer - it wasn't directly LG's fault, I mean, at least that's what I remember. There was an app you could run that would ID the exact panel in your G2 and then you'd know whether or not you might potentially have problems.
I've never ever heard of screen damage caused by ROM flashing - that just sounds a bit ridiculous, so perhaps there's just a misunderstanding of what those people were reporting. The one "issue" that the G3 suffered/suffers from is the fact that the super huge QHD resolution and scaling causing sharpness issues in some situations: either the onscreen image is too sharp or oversharp and loses clarity or it's not sharp enough and looks fuzzy. It's not a technical problem or a defect with the display, it's simple physics of the LCD being so high resolution at 2560x1440 and software/hardware scaling not being up to par - there are several fixes out that help alleviate the oversharpening but I can't speak for their effectiveness at this time till I can get this G3 of mine up and running again with the replacement display assembly.
Not sure what you're referring to with the "RRO" comment, and I'm not into themes at all personally. I typically use a black wallpaper on any device I own and keep everything 'stock' in terms of the UI itself which is why I said what I said about LG's stock UI on the G3 (and why I used it on the G2 with CloudyG3/G2). It's beautiful, incredibly functional, and fits the way I use the device better than "stock" Android ever could but again that's just me and my personal preference. I give LG big props and mad respect for it because it's gorgeous and gets the job done while being lean and mean while remaining snappy and responsive as well.
Aside from the Sprint bloatware (which can be disabled iirc, or removed entirely with root using Titanium Backup). I was using the G3 after I got it and my OTG cable with a mouse, actually. The damage to the digitizer was localized in most of the left and upper region - the bottom right quadrant was still functional but with the mouse plugged in the digitizer became irrelevant. No, I don't mean I was going to carry it around with a mouse, that would be ridiculous and stupid, I just mean that I got the G3 for that $50 knowing I'd be replacing the display assembly from the gitgo.
My mistake was that I decided to roll the firmware back to factory (ZV4) and in the process I didn't realize that LG has made some changes since the G2 release and they have this stupid "Mini OS" thing come up after a stock firmware flash - the only way to exit out of that Mini OS and into the normal firmware is to hold the Power button and tap a menu item onscreen which causes a popup to appear with an OK button - because the digitizer is/was damaged I wasn't able to press the OK button (it was like 1/16" of an inch inside the damaged area) so I was left with a truly dead G3 for all intents and purposes.
I tore it down yesterday and removed the display assembly and cleaned it all up so it's basically a fully functional G3 now waiting for a new display/digitizer which I hope to order here as soon as I can round up the funds, it'll be about $70-80 off eBay.
It's a damned nice smartphone, it really is. My own pros/cons list basically is like 99% pros for the G3 and just 1% con: I wish it had a 1920x1080 display on it because I have no use - I mean really, does anyone? - for such a high resolution on such a tiny display. I appreciate it, I do, but there's no legitimate purpose for such a resolution on such a small display: 1920x1080 would have been awesome enough, I would have been happy with it and had no issues but LG wanted to be the first to market with the QHD resolution and they made it happen with the G3.
Couldn't pass it up for $50...
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Hey everyone. Some of you may have seen me before on various LG forums, like the Optimus G, and the G2 (I've definitely seen some of you guys before on the OG forums), and I have a question for you guys who own the Sprint G3. Are you guys happy with your device? Like ROM wise, battery life, the entire experience in general. As of today March 1st, I'm eligible for an upgrade, and I was thinking of getting the G3. But I've been ghosting around the forums to spot any rooting quirks and goofs, and I've seen some regarding data on custom ROMs and stuff, which I'm kinda on the fence about. I'm planning on keeping my N5 for the AOSP ROMs, but this phone has terrible battery life, compared to the G2 I've owned for two weeks before I permanently switched to the N5. I see there's a decent selection of AOSP ROMs available for the G3, but I'm not too worried about that because I have my Nexus.
Tl;Dr: are you guys happy with your G3, and do you think its worth the upgrade, or should I wait for new devices to come out?
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I loved my OG and decided to go with this phone based off of my experience with that. I can honestly say I made the right choice. My normal routine with phones is to flash AOSP roms as soon as they are available, but with this phone, I've been pretty impressed with the custom stock roms and xposed. My battery life is great when I'm not using bluetooth, but one great thing is the charge time on this phone has greatly improved over the OG.
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I loved my OG and decided to go with this phone based off of my experience with that. I can honestly say I made the right choice. My normal routine with phones is to flash AOSP roms as soon as they are available, but with this phone, I've been pretty impressed with the custom stock roms and xposed. My battery life is great when I'm not using bluetooth, but one great thing is the charge time on this phone has greatly improved over the OG.
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Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see how stock debloated Lollipop runs on this phone. Its just weird hearing that the battery life is just "okay" considering that the G2 had amazing battery life. But I guess the G3 would be an improvement over the N5 anyways, this thing has horrid battery life. Think I'm gonna go to Best Buy tomorrow and snag a G3 for a dollar, instead of getting one from Sprint for $50.
Take the time to help decide what features the next Axon should have with a short Google survey. With your help, we could get our dream phone. We need 100 people to do this before ZTE will consider it, so help make a difference! We're about half way there.
https://goo.gl/forms/zQ4caE5rHIIPiTBg1
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Take the time to help decide what features the next Axon should have with a short Google survey. With your help, we could get our dream phone. We need 100 people to do this before ZTE will consider it, so help make a difference! We're about half way there.
https://goo.gl/forms/zQ4caE5rHIIPiTBg1
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Nice
I'm not too confident about how effective this will be though
I have to add one thing that I forgot to say on the survey. i actually bought the A7 instead of the OP3T because of the design of the phone. I feel like the OP3T, other OPPO devices, and even low/midrange ZTE phones just go for the overused clean front design on their phones - I think they look too much like crappy clones of Apple phones, especially the OP3T. This thing stands out a lot from the asian phone crowd.
I believe that they could have used a slightly bigger 5.7 screen on it too. It is more feasible now that many phones are going bezel-less, because maybe the panels actually had a small margin on the sides, idk
Though a fun idea, this survey won't mean anything in the end. It'll just give people hope that they're answers will be considered. Plus most of the answers will be the highest rated things. Obviously everybody will want the latest Snapdragon, the highest RAM, highest internal storage etc. So most of the results will be the same in the end. Also, typo was made in the "DUST/WATER PROOF*" question. Spelled proof wrong. Sorry to be so picky!
ZTE Will consider the survey when the number is reached. Trust me
We're about 85% there guys! Just a bit more to go
Can't take a joke, eh?
Doc Ames said:
Can't take a joke, eh?
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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I made a post with a Simpson's reference (Homer designs a car) and a couple of screenshots with silly answers to the survey like; CPU Pentium Pro 166 MHz, RAM 128 MB DDR2, etc. I used real answers when I actually submitted the survey. Whatever, I don't want to start a fight. Just thought it weird that my post got deleted. I thought it was pretty funny.
Oh, i thought it was funny. I didn't report it.
I filled it out, hopefully we all want similar stuff in the next Axon.
Done. I hope it will help
Wysłane z mojego ZTE A2017G przy użyciu Tapatalka
Done as well. Can we see the results when it closes? I'd be curious about a number of things ^^
Goal has been surpassed! I'll share details soon. Thanks guys.
From what I can remember, I want (* = must haves):
* - 5.5" and 6.3" Axon 8 and Axon 8 plus (or ~4.9" and 5.7"+ versions)
*- 1440 x 2560 AMOLED display
*- Thin bezels (but keep dual speakers)
*- 3500+mAh and 4000+mAh batteries
*- Bluetooth 5.0
*- Snapdragon 835
*- 3.5mm jack Hi-Fi audio
*- Dual front facing speakers
*- Very good camera with very good low light performance (Dual preferred but single is ok, as long as it takes GOOD pics)
*- Rear fingerprint scanner
- 8MP front facing camera
- Dual stage camera button
- Between ~$400 and ~$500-ish
- Can't remember the rest.
Actually side-mounted fingerprint reader sounds REALLY good. Don't know if it is even possible (heard rumors about an fp reader on the power button, which would be nice) but it'd be even better than the front reader in terms of comfort (though it might be less accurate, less area) and wouldn't interfere with speakers for example
And the back placement is kind of awkward anyways... it's very comfortable but you can't use it when the phone is flat on a surface
I wanna see the results of this, Guess most of us chose the sd835 anyways
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Actually side-mounted fingerprint reader sounds REALLY good. Don't know if it is even possible (heard rumors about an fp reader on the power button, which would be nice) but it'd be even better than the front reader in terms of comfort (though it might be less accurate, less area) and wouldn't interfere with speakers for example
And the back placement is kind of awkward anyways... it's very comfortable but you can't use it when the phone is flat on a surface
I wanna see the results of this, Guess most of us chose the sd835 anyways
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Actually since the Xperia Z5 , every Sony phone has an fp on the power button.
I would prefer on the back.
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Actually since the Xperia Z5 , every Sony phone has an fp on the power button.
I would prefer on the back.
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Oh, I think I read that Sony couldn't put an fp reader on the power button because Apple already had a patent, so I thought they just hadn't been able to do that
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Oh, I think I read that Sony couldn't put an fp reader on the power button because Apple already had a patent, so I thought they just hadn't been able to do that
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They had to deactivate it in the US only, but it's included in the button (just software deactivated I think) and available everywhere else (<troll> aka where design patents can't be applied and where you have to submit proof of a working prototype for patents to be granted </troll>)
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Actually the hardware on the current Axon 7 is completely fine and more than capable of running almost everything. As long as there's no statement to an update guarantee for Android O, i'm not planning to support ZTE in building another phone and another and another. More important than any hardware-upgrade today should be a clear commitment of the vendor to support this device with major versions until the end of the device guarantee, as well as opening up the bootloader globally for further possibilities to update it afterwards.
You really get the feeling that the vendors today are just rotating their ideas when building a new phone, while implementing the current qualcomm-Chipset into the device, but what really will it bring to us in terms of usability, functionality?
"This time let's put this button right here, how about the fingerprintscanner right on the volume toggles, no one did that before, let's put more pixels into it, yeaah, or 100mAh more into the battery, 0,01m thinner, let's make everything thinner so it handles a lot worse, but it looks sooo goood, ....but wait, what did apple right there? let's include it as well..."
Android OS including all of the relevant security fixes should be on the main priority list of every vendor, to support their user base with the current OS not because of features, no. Because of the responsibility to secure the data of their customer base, to provide a secure plattform, which actually is available for every vendor out there. Currently we trust these devices more than we should (Photos, Notes, Address Book,Messages, VPN Access). We're constantly connected to the internet.
And I mean, it just works in the PC-market. All the manufacturers like Acer, Lenovo, Asus, etc. are building their hardware-base, selling their PCs through hardware-refinement, design, functionality, cooling-solution, audio-implementation, but Windows itself is provided by Microsoft and updated through their main update-functions. Everyone get the same treatment. And even here we got a router at home, who at least hold of a few of the nasty malicious stuff from the internet, if i got an unpatched system. What do we got on Android? Why not here? I decide what pleases me hardware-wise, but the software should be the same on all the devices and constantly maintained.
I love every little bit of the current Axon 7, it's extremely well made, the display is gorgeous, the fluid speed. I'm happy, but at this point i'm already concerned about the time, when the vendor stops supporting this device with even the smallest security fixes, when i'm in the position to look for OS-alternatives on the XDA-forum. Fortunately i'm in the position with an unlocked/hacked bootloader, something customers had to find out, because ZTE didn't felt the need to provide the same services in Europe as in the US. What about the other customers, who are not technical savy and still on locked devices.
Actually it's not a problem with ZTE alone. Almost every current vendor uses the Android OS-Version combined with their "UI-treatment" (Overlays, Icon-Scheme, Wallpapers, Soundfiles) as a selling factor. "Oh, your mobile phone only got Android 6, that's old and sad" "look our current one got Android 7 (and will probably stop there), it's so much newer and better". This shouldn't be a sales argument in the first place. Vendors are even punishing developers and customers by withdrawing hardware-failure support who are trying to get out of that marketing cage by developing bootloader unlock procedures or alternate "native" Android-experiences.
I think ZTE (or another vendor) should try to go a completely different route by providing a native Android-OS-experience, putting their own on-top-functionality in seperate apps (which are updateable through the play store) and be the first vendor, to offer continuous OS-versions for their current devices (independent of Snapdragon 800, 600 or 400-series-chipsets; all of them are capable of running the OS just fine). Afterwards there could be for instance yearly paid-service-contracts for further support, because why not? Not everyone needs a new device because of hardware-specs. They will just use their phones for 4 or more years, but (!) with an old and insecure OS-Version which is a threat to the customer, an image-threat for the company and as whole a threat for the fragmentation and image of Android itself.
Newer devices can still be developed, because of course there will be vr-stuff, games or applications who are taking advantage of newer qualcomm chipsets. Of course new or old designs can be rotated with newer devices. In my opinion nothing would be lost, as there are still those people, who wants to own the newest devices, or current ones are getting damaged and need a replacement. The need will still be there, but new customers would gather around that vendor, because of the support, stability and trust he would gain and give.
It's just my opinion but in the end, i think we're a going a wrong way helping them just producing more and more phones while stopping their support for their current ones.