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So I have an Asus Infinity at the moment. Not very happy with it as it lags terribly and its user experience isn't great (vastyl improved with CleamRom but still not seemless).
I'm thinking of replacing the TF700 with a Nexus 10 or a Sony Tablet Z when its out towards the end of May. Ideally I'd have a tablet with a microSD card but for the £100 (+) differential over the tablet Z I may be able to live with this.
Anyone else thinking about either of these tablets? Any other thoughts or comments?
dknotty said:
So I have an Asus Infinity at the moment. Not very happy with it as it lags terribly and its user experience isn't great (vastyl improved with CleamRom but still not seemless).
I'm thinking of replacing the TF700 with a Nexus 10 or a Sony Tablet Z when its out towards the end of May. Ideally I'd have a tablet with a microSD card but for the £100 (+) differential over the tablet Z I may be able to live with this.
Anyone else thinking about either of these tablets? Any other thoughts or comments?
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I have the Nexus 10 and i'm really happy with it. Once I saw the weight and how thin it is, I liked it. However, the price, the angle of the screen, the battery (6000 mah and nexus 10 has 9000), and also the long time that sony takes to upgrade the android, made me not care about this tablet.
@OP: in the exact same boat.
the TF700 has gotten worse over time, despite CleanROM, Brower2RAM, other tweaks — or perhaps my tolerance for a $500 tablet performing like crap has finally diminished to the point where i'm just can't take it anymore.
Tablet Z sounds great, but like IKBZI has stated, the puny battery could definitely be an issue. also viewing angles on the phone Z has been pretty crap, just hope that the tablet is better. microSD is a plus though. the premium price you pay for a Sony irks me though, especially when it's not even running the latest OS version.
that said, i think the Nexus 10 is also a contender because of the front-facing speakers and that massive resolution. i already have a tablet with 1920 x 1200 resolution, you know? however, the colour gamut sucks and maybe there isn't enough horsepower to push all those pixels consistently (based on various reports of lag, etc. -- i know there are plenty happy about it though). plus having to pay extra for a pogo charger, and still have slow charge times, etc.
i'm waiting to see how the Z turns out in reviews, but also eagerly awaiting news of a what a next-gen Nexus 10 might look like.
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however, the colour gamut sucks and maybe there isn't enough horsepower to push all those pixels consistently (based on various reports of lag, etc. -- i know there are plenty happy about it though).
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The Nexus 10 has issues from thermal throttling that cause lag on the stock kernel. Get a custom kernel and your issues will go away. And especially KTManta with its massive GPU overclock you can get great gaming performance on the Nexus 10.
Personally I would choose the Nexus 10 over a Sony tablet because I like the more active development of Nexus devices and how easy they are to mod, and get the latest versions of Android always.
N10, of course... Development matters...
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Buy a tablet Z now, and pretty soon you'll suffer from key lime pie envy. I don't want to buy a new tablet every year just to be able to keep up with the second newest version of android.
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i'm waiting to see how the Z turns out in reviews, but also eagerly awaiting news of a what a next-gen Nexus 10 might look like.
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The next Gen Nexus 10 won't be out for a good long time though (>6 months)? The N10 looks great, however, the lack of 3G and microSD are putting me off. I could live with one, but both will be tricky.
One has to wander why it is so difficult to make an Android tablet with an HD screen, microSD, 3G and a decent battery!
I prefer to the Nexus 10 because I like the pure Android and the timely update. As for the sd card, I can find some other ways to expand the storage of Nexus 10.
oysteivi said:
Buy a tablet Z now, and pretty soon you'll suffer from key lime pie envy. I don't want to buy a new tablet every year just to be able to keep up with the second newest version of android.
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No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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pingguo said:
No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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I'm glad Sony is being supportive of the dev community but I think you'll be waiting a bit for a 5.0 update. You'll get something un-official long before something from Sony and that will still be a bit after the Nexus devices get it.
You might want to play with the Z at a Sony store if there is one near you.
The N10 is my favorite Android device. Aside from it being a Nexus and all that comes with that, the great performance, the stunning screen, I just really love the physical design, from the look/shape/feel/color, the speakers on the front to the soft touch material on the back. Reminds of the Nexus S that I also loved. Big pat on the back to the industrial design guys/gals that worked on this tablet.
the design of sony tablet z is very appealing to me, but i am really into ultra hi-res displays and the rubber of nexus 10 is quite a pleasure to hold in your hands
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The Nexus 10 has issues from thermal throttling that cause lag on the stock kernel. Get a custom kernel and your issues will go away. And especially KTManta with its massive GPU overclock you can get great gaming performance on the Nexus 10.
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intriguing! thanks for the info ...
got me reading a bit about KTManta. came across the odd comment that says it affects the colours/gamut positively. anyone have info/data/screens of that? asking because there doesn't appear to be any specific settings in KTweakerT that you can change to affect colour.
if that screen was a bit closer to sRGB, i'd jump on it.
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intriguing! thanks for the info ...
got me reading a bit about KTManta. came across the odd comment that says it affects the colours/gamut positively. anyone have info/data/screens of that? asking because there doesn't appear to be any specific settings in KTweakerT that you can change to affect colour.
if that screen was a bit closer to sRGB, i'd jump on it.
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There are no settings as it is not user adjustable. There is no color control at all for any kernels or ROMs on this tablet yet, and there may never be for all we know. There are color tweaks in the KTmanta kernel that bring the RGB values much closer to what they should be, however the blue color is still very far off. These minor tweaks to the colorspace are hard coded into the kernel.
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No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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The s is just now getting jellybean
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Everybody here talking about Key Lime Pie !!
Does anybody know wats KLP, wat are the changes and additional features over Jelly Bean??
@OP: i have used Nexus 10, its ok tablet, its also suffering from random crashes n other issues.
I am looking forward to Sony Xperia Tablet Z because of its premium looks and sleek design, and for me if Jelly Bean is butter smooth on XTZ, m not bothered abt KLM !!
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xperiax10.awesome said:
Everybody here talking about Key Lime Pie !!
Does anybody know wats KLP, wat are the changes and additional features over Jelly Bean??
@OP: i have used Nexus 10, its ok tablet, its also suffering from random crashes n other issues.
I am looking forward to Sony Xperia Tablet Z because of its premium looks and sleek design, and for me if Jelly Bean is butter smooth on XTZ, m not bothered abt KLM !!
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Engadget says that the sony xperia tablet z is that thin that when you do a little pression on the screen, you will see the same that happened on the old screens, when you used your finger to press the screen.
Not sure how to describe it, but I mean, when on an old screen you made pression with your finger, you could see some kind of "bubble" on it.
pingguo said:
No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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I personally would never buy any of the Nexus tablets. The bezel is entirely too wide. I am looking for a 10.1 inch screen , jellybean , 32G storage and 2 GB of Ram. Wifi only . The Sony Xperia Z looks good .. It has nice thin bezels. And the specs are good.
I realise posting in this section will get me biased reviews, but Im 99% sure the xperia tablet s is right for me just want a few opnions from people who have one.
My situation is that my windows laptop has about had it, it still works but even after a fresh format it just doesnt keep up with me these days. For the first time ever since my first wndows 3.1 machine I am wanting to move away from microsoft completly and move across to android (I will be keepig the windows laptop in a cupboard just in case theres something I cant do on android such as root a phone and such, you just never know)
I got myself my first android phone back in April which is an xperia T and I have fallen in love with it, I have rooted it, unlocked the boot loader and now got it running exactly how I want with no glitches, at the time it was a close call between the T and the Samsung S3 however after owning the T I am glad I went with sony over sammy mainly for how professional and business like it feels, the samsung just looks and feels like a childs phone compared in my opinion
This leads me to the tablet obviously the xperia z tablet would be my ideal choice, but I just cant warrant having that much in a tablet so my options came down to:
Xperia Tablet S
Nexus 10
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
I really want to stay with the Sony Brand mainly because I love their take on android over samsung or stock android, Im just a little worried that Im buying something that is a dead or at least fast dying tablet? Mainly because sony seem to have discontinued everything now, obviously they are really pushing the z phone and tableand seem to be neglecting almost every other model
Would I be better going with the much more popular tab 2, samsung do seem to keep things well updated and there is a much larger raange of accessories?
Or paying out a little more and getting the superior Nexus 10? The display sounds fantastic and I am sure I would love the nexus 10, but its quite a lot me expensive than the s
I would use it for emails, typing on the internet in forums, surfing the net and controlling my synology disk station, then maybe when me and the misses go away watching a film, but that would be about as far as I would ever need to push the tablet
Just wanting to hear real world opinions and such on the xperia tablet s, if you have one, do you with you had something else or do you love it?
dougie175 said:
I realise posting in this section will get me biased reviews, but Im 99% sure the xperia tablet s is right for me just want a few opnions from people who have one.
My situation is that my windows laptop has about had it, it still works but even after a fresh format it just doesnt keep up with me these days. For the first time ever since my first wndows 3.1 machine I am wanting to move away from microsoft completly and move across to android (I will be keepig the windows laptop in a cupboard just in case theres something I cant do on android such as root a phone and such, you just never know)
I got myself my first android phone back in April which is an xperia T and I have fallen in love with it, I have rooted it, unlocked the boot loader and now got it running exactly how I want with no glitches, at the time it was a close call between the T and the Samsung S3 however after owning the T I am glad I went with sony over sammy mainly for how professional and business like it feels, the samsung just looks and feels like a childs phone compared in my opinion
This leads me to the tablet obviously the xperia z tablet would be my ideal choice, but I just cant warrant having that much in a tablet so my options came down to:
Xperia Tablet S
Nexus 10
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
I really want to stay with the Sony Brand mainly because I love their take on android over samsung or stock android, Im just a little worried that Im buying something that is a dead or at least fast dying tablet? Mainly because sony seem to have discontinued everything now, obviously they are really pushing the z phone and tableand seem to be neglecting almost every other model
Would I be better going with the much more popular tab 2, samsung do seem to keep things well updated and there is a much larger raange of accessories?
Or paying out a little more and getting the superior Nexus 10? The display sounds fantastic and I am sure I would love the nexus 10, but its quite a lot me expensive than the s
I would use it for emails, typing on the internet in forums, surfing the net and controlling my synology disk station, then maybe when me and the misses go away watching a film, but that would be about as far as I would ever need to push the tablet
Just wanting to hear real world opinions and such on the xperia tablet s, if you have one, do you with you had something else or do you love it?
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Wait for 2nd gen Nexus 10. These Sony tabs are locked down and don't really get any updates anymore. I would wait for the next Nexus 10, and either get the new Nexus 10, or get a used 1st gen Nexus 10 when the prices drop.
lopezk38 said:
Wait for 2nd gen Nexus 10. These Sony tabs are locked down and don't really get any updates anymore. I would wait for the next Nexus 10, and either get the new Nexus 10, or get a used 1st gen Nexus 10 when the prices drop.
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Thanks I have been half thinking that, I just love the Sony android style, like the idea of phone and tablet being the same. Does the final fw for the xps have issues or is it a great firmware? If it's perfect I don't really need future updates, however if it's poor and the bootloader is locked, guess I would be stuck. Thanks
dougie175 said:
Thanks I have been half thinking that, I just love the Sony android style, like the idea of phone and tablet being the same. Does the final fw for the xps have issues or is it a great firmware? If it's perfect I don't really need future updates, however if it's poor and the bootloader is locked, guess I would be stuck. Thanks
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Right now, the XTS has some issues with Wi-Fi even though one of the updates was supposed to fix it, and I've heard of a bug where the Tegra 3 will only use 2 cores instead of all 4. The core count bug is fixable with a root app, but it's not exactly permanent and it doesn't always work. And trust me, even though you say you won't mind not getting updates, once you flash 4.4 or some future version of android on your phone, you will change your mind. The screen on the XTS is crap too, with bad color saturation, low resolution, and bad viewing angles. You would be much happier with a Nexus 10.
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Right now, the XTS has some issues with Wi-Fi even though one of the updates was supposed to fix it, and I've heard of a bug where the Tegra 3 will only use 2 cores instead of all 4. The core count bug is fixable with a root app, but it's not exactly permanent and it doesn't always work. And trust me, even though you say you won't mind not getting updates, once you flash 4.4 or some future version of android on your phone, you will change your mind. The screen on the XTS is crap too, with bad color saturation, low resolution, and bad viewing angles. You would be much happier with a Nexus 10.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll take it and get myself a nexus 10 shame not to have the Sony ui, but the nexus seems a great device, can't justify the extra for the Xperia z just to get the Sony ui.
Never know I may even end up preferring stock android
dougie175 said:
Thanks for the advice, I'll take it and get myself a nexus 10 shame not to have the Sony ui, but the nexus seems a great device, can't justify the extra for the Xperia z just to get the Sony ui.
Never know I may even end up preferring stock android
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There are plenty of Sony themes for ROMs with the theme engine anyway, so if you unlock the bootloader on the Nexus you could make it look similar to a Sony anyway
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There are plenty of Sony themes for ROMs with the theme engine anyway, so if you unlock the bootloader on the Nexus you could make it look similar to a Sony anyway
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Sounds like the solution if I don't like the stock ui.
Cheers buddy think you have pushed me in the right direction
dougie175 said:
Sounds like the solution if I don't like the stock ui.
Cheers buddy think you have pushed me in the right direction
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Have a look at the xtz its fully supported by the sony MOBILE team not viao so its a good option if you want to flash roms at a later date
rooted lighting wildfire on unoffical j.b from benni
and sony XTS rooted stock j.b thanks djrbliss
dex9mm said:
Have a look at the xtz its fully supported by the sony MOBILE team not viao so its a good option if you want to flash roms at a later date
rooted lighting wildfire on unoffical j.b from benni
and sony XTS rooted stock j.b thanks djrbliss
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Yeah thanks for the suggestion as I said in my original post its a little more than I want to have in a tablet to be honest.
I have actually ended up buying a nexus 10 and a 2nd gen nexus 7, as I couldnt decide which would be right for me, Ill have a good go with both of them and decide before factory resetting one and sticking it back on ebay, fortunatly good condition second hand ones go for about £5 less than brand new ones on ebay.
I just couldnt decide between them if I wanted the screen size or the weight advantage
Ok, I'm up to purchase a new tablet and I am divided between Z2 and Tab S.
I'm a happy owner of a Z1 tablet and I am wondering if Z2 is a better option than Tab S.
A far as I can tell Z2 has the edge on the chipset side but Tab S has a better screen, so my question for you is this: Wich tablet would you advise me to purchase?
One last detail: I love to read and browse the Web.
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Here in this forum you'll hear: "Z2 Tablet, of course", in the Tab S forum you'll hear: "Tab S, of course". You have to try and decide yourself.
Fast, easy to root, light in software, better build quality = Z2
Not as easy to root, getting slower by time caused by bloatware, build quality debatable, far better screen = Tab S
Just my opinion. I bought the Z2 because of Knox and Bloatware but I'm missing the dual window feature that Samsung has.
I dislike the Sony UI, but I hate Samsung's Tablet UI. It is even worse than their phone UI.
When I bought my tablet, this was the main difference I recognized in the store.
Regarding the display, I wanted to have 1200p instead of 1600p. Huge resolutions don't add value, I could hardly see a difference between the Sony and the Samsung.
Of course when you look closely, you see some difference, but during day to day usage it doesn't make a difference. Just check it out for yourself, your mileage could vary.
But I explicitly searched for a 10 inch Tablet with Snapdragon 801 and a 1200p display, because higher resolutions destroy 3d-performance while not looking really better, and at the same time consume more power.
So I got what I wanted with the Z2. But you have your own needs, so you could come to a different conclusion. Android offers so much choice that everybody should be able to find his best-suited device. :good:
My main concern was exactly screen quality but seems that overall build quality tends to Z2 all the way...
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Pick up a Samsung galaxy s at the store.... Immediately you can tell the build difference in comparison to the z2. Galaxy s is flimsy and creaks... (I've looked at over 10 from different stores, so no its not an abnormality)... My Z2 is rock solid....now the resolution, software, and hardware? Hands down the z2 is better. But thats my opinion when analyzing the facts.
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But thats my opinion when analyzing the facts.
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Er???
Either it's a fact that these things are better on the Z2, or it's "your opinion", i.e. somehow you like them better, without factual evidence.
Your sentence doesn't make any sense, sorry.
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Er???
Either it's a fact that these things are better on the Z2, or it's "your opinion", i.e. somehow you like them better, without factual evidence.
Your sentence doesn't make any sense, sorry.
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You should look again at what I stated before making an incoherent statement. To "analyze" facts between two devices is comparing them and "interpreting" the differences through the process of human understanding. Thus a subjective nature is prevalent.
Meaning you can analyze something, and base your subjective opinion off the facts that you have used.
If you are looking for a split comparison of the two devices, its impossible to fully do when each device has separate features. However, basing hardware and build, you can base the material build, board, and benchmarks in a factual comparison, then analyze that information to base your synopsis.
One lant question, Tablet Z2 is absolutely better than Z1 in hardware all the way, but an upgrade from Z1 to Z2 is advisable? will I notice, on a day to day basis, a great improvement or not?
Just add a annoying bug on touch screen on Z2.
I'm on version 17.1.1.A.0.402 with SGP511 and scroll with tablet is awful. It replace touch scroll for touch "click".
Touch issue on Z2 tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtc96YE6O8
Cheers,
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One lant question, Tablet Z2 is absolutely better than Z1 in hardware all the way, but an upgrade from Z1 to Z2 is advisable? will I notice, on a day to day basis, a great improvement or not?
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I upgraded from the Tablet Z1 to the Z2 Tablet. The differences are not huge. It was more the idea of having the newest and greatest (as a birthday present for myself) than anything else.
Specific aspects of the Z2 that I really enjoy more than on the Z1 are
1. The screen is noticeably better, particularly from off angles
2. There's no longer a flap over the headphone jack
3. I prefer the wireless charging set up on the Z2. You don't need a stand in order to wirelessly charge.
I was also happy to make the change for a reason particular to me: my old Z1 had only 16GB - I had not realized when I bought it that you CANNOT install apps on an external microsd. So when I got the Z2 I made sure to get the 32GB version.
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I upgraded from the Tablet Z1 to the Z2 Tablet. The differences are not huge. It was more the idea of having the newest and greatest (as a birthday present for myself) than anything else.
Specific aspects of the Z2 that I really enjoy more than on the Z1 are
1. The screen is noticeably better, particularly from off angles
2. There's no longer a flap over the headphone jack
3. I prefer the wireless charging set up on the Z2. You don't need a stand in order to wirelessly charge.
I was also happy to make the change for a reason particular to me: my old Z1 had only 16GB - I had not realized when I bought it that you CANNOT install apps on an external microsd. So when I got the Z2 I made sure to get the 32GB version.
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Can you define what you mean by wireless charging please? Do you mean you can use a magnetic lead like this on it? Or is there a feature I'm not aware of?
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Can you define what you mean by wireless charging please? Do you mean you can use a magnetic lead like this on it? Or is there a feature I'm not aware of?
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That's exactly what I mean. On the Tablet Z1 the wireless connections where on the two sides of the tablet when held in landscaper.
chentz78 said:
Just add a annoying bug on touch screen on Z2.
I'm on version 17.1.1.A.0.402 with SGP511 and scroll with tablet is awful. It replace touch scroll for touch "click".
Touch issue on Z2 tablet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtc96YE6O8
Cheers,
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Simply install the newest firmware (... .314). If not yet available in your country, take one of the FTFs available here. (I took the Russian one, works flawlessly.)
Then the touch bug will be gone.
Kit Kat drove me to the higher memory option
AllanJacques said:
Ok, I'm up to purchase a new tablet and I am divided between Z2 and Tab S.
I'm a happy owner of a Z1 tablet and I am wondering if Z2 is a better option than Tab S.
A far as I can tell Z2 has the edge on the chipset side but Tab S has a better screen, so my question for you is this: Wich tablet would you advise me to purchase?
One last detail: I love to read and browse the Web.
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Hi, I looked into this quite deeply before going for the Z2. The Samsung S screen is excellent. But SD card woes under Android Kit Kat convinced me that I needed a 32 Gbyte tablet. There seem to be only 16 Gbyte Galaxy S' in Europe, so I went for the 32 Gbyte Z2.
Also, I have other Sony gear: camera NEX-6, TV....; the build quality of the Sony is higher; and the Samsung has a reputation for being loaded with bloatware and having a poor UI. Some reviews of the Samsung also mentioned that it stuttered under high processor loads.
Hope that helps.
The "SD card woes" under Kitkat are very easily resolvable (and thus not really "woes"):
1. Root
2. Install app "SDFix" from Playstore and run once (can be uninstalled after that). Done!
Then your SD card will work totally normal with full read-write access.
hasenbein1966 said:
The "SD card woes" under Kitkat are very easily resolvable (and thus not really "woes"):
1. Root
2. Install app "SDFix" from Playstore and run once (can be uninstalled after that). Done!
Then your SD card will work totally normal with full read-write access.
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Yes,thanks for that, I was just explaining the reasons dor my choice I suppose. And...
a) being a bit of a newbie and b) being otherwise very happy with my tablet, I don't feel the need to root just yet. But it's good to know the SDFix works with the Z2 tablet. Signs are that Sony might be bringing out a fix too. Rolling out on their cheaper smartphones now, I hear.
I wanted to have Tab S, but the speaker is terrible.
Moreover, Z2 has white balance control on the screen so you can adjust to your favor (I prefer clean/cool white).
I had the same question as you, and the Tab S was the only tablet available.
Having a Z2 device, I really wanted the tablet since the phone is awesome. I didn't want to wait for shipment from Sony's website, and I have regretted it every day of owning the Tab S.
It is sluggish, choppy, and video that plays smooth on my Z2, the exact same thing is choppy on my Tab S. Because of the stupid chipset dev is non existent on the 10.5, and does not look like it will ever pick up, especially since the Note 4 will have the Snapdragon chipset.
I am probably going to sell it, take a little hit, and buy the Z2.
How about the speaker on Z2 compared with Tab S?
I tested Tab S and the speaker is much lower than my Note 10.1 classic. I want to buy Z2 Tablet, but I worry about the speakers (assuming everything is nearly the same as Tab S).
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Finally I had an opportunity to try both and found speaker on z2 is much better than Tab S (the latter one is very weak and badly compressed). In addition, z2 feels much solid than Tab S.
So I am waiting for the Galaxy Note 4 next week Spt 3, and released specs and everything look good, but what turns me off from the phone is the rather small display. I mean 5.7inch is stupid I think, they could have at least made it a 6" as I was hoping for.
The Xperia Z Ultra has a 6.4" display and the specs are still good, only came out last year. I am a very lite user, I don't play games or use many Apps, just mainly for phone and texting.
What do you guys think, I can get it for $370 CAD no tax or shipping from U.S via eBay brand new unlocked, is it a good phone? Or am I making a mistake not getting the Note 4 and going for a slightly older phone?
I would really appreciate any feedback you can provide, thanks!
Torguy said:
So I am waiting for the Galaxy Note 4 next week Spt 3, and released specs and everything look good, but what turns me off from the phone is the rather small display. I mean 5.7inch is stupid I think, they could have at least made it a 6" as I was hoping for.
The Xperia Z Ultra has a 6.4" display and the specs are still good, only came out last year. I am a very lite user, I don't play games or use many Apps, just mainly for phone and texting.
What do you guys think, I can get it for $370 CAD no tax or shipping from U.S via eBay brand new unlocked, is it a good phone? Or am I making a mistake not getting the Note 4 and going for a slightly older phone?
I would really appreciate any feedback you can provide, thanks!
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I would go with the Ultra (only as the wife has a S4 and I hate it). As you say the specs are still good, and Sony's software is fast with not too much bloat. Also note that it is easy to root and flash custom ROMs to - although some people seem to have real trouble
Z Ultra from me, the best value for money smartphone now:good:
I've owned the Note II and perhaps less relevant the Galaxy Nexus, but I can say the Z Ultra, after being quite wary regarding Sony, is the best smart phone I have owned. It's big and beautiful and has an understated, yet classy look. It's super thin and shines on both the hard- and software side. Samsung is a step down, with its ugly and tacky plastics, let alone the horrible Touchwiz. The ZU is still a beast with the SD 800 cpu and destroys everything on its path. Take the plunge, you won't regret, possibly for years to come, if you wanted to.
Signed: an ex-Samsung believer
I'm using a note 3 now and am planning to shift to an xperia z ultra because I'm looking for stock android. For conversion to gpe and back, which model version should I buy? Lte or non lte?
How is the speaker quality of the device? All the reviews indicate it as soft. Is battery life better on the gpe?
No camera flash for z ultra was a deal breaker.
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No camera flash for z ultra was a deal breaker.
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I dont see it as a dealbreaker. Sure i cant look at some pipes in the dark, which i had to do quite few times past 6 months, but as a device its quite ok without the flash. Mayby its also, cause i see camera as least important functionality in a phone, but let that be another discussion.
As for the general question, I think Note 4 will be preferred choice, I love my Ultra, seriously best phone in the market at the very moment imo. But thats the thing, Note 4 is generation up and thats a big thing. Another aspect that really speaks for samsung is that they actually put some thought - why do we go for such a big screen on this bloody thing, which i feel is lacking on Ultra.
I was between note and Ultra when note 3 launched, but the overall feel and my emotion was better on Sony, tho note came close with its trough thought phablet feel.
joulukas said:
I dont see it as a dealbreaker. Sure i cant look at some pipes in the dark, which i had to do quite few times past 6 months, but as a device its quite ok without the flash. Mayby its also, cause i see camera as least important functionality in a phone, but let that be another discussion.
As for the general question, I think Note 4 will be preferred choice, I love my Ultra, seriously best phone in the market at the very moment imo. But thats the thing, Note 4 is generation up and thats a big thing. Another aspect that really speaks for samsung is that they actually put some thought - why do we go for such a big screen on this bloody thing, which i feel is lacking on Ultra.
I was between note and Ultra when note 3 launched, but the overall feel and my emotion was better on Sony, tho note came close with its trough thought phablet feel.
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If the Z ultra provided any Spen functionality OR a camera flash I would have gotten it. To me that was two points. But everyone has different needs I can easily see why Zultra was a superb choice.
I would consider the new Z3 Tablet Compact if the size is deemed acceptable. Even if I had the Note I and II, I would not another device in that series mostly because of all restrictions Samsung has put up such as efuse, limitations on "right" and "wrong" flashing of stock ROM (i.e. efuse goes off if you downgrade through Odin etc not to mention custom ROMs), unstandardized hardware (different CPU/GPU depending on market), carrier branding (unlocked devices not available unless importing), region lock and so forth. TouchWiz is also a complete dealbreaker in those L times.
The S-Pen is a great concept, though but is so linked to TouchWiz that most of the features are lost if a AOSP/CM is flashed. Because of all those items on the list, I avoid their devices as a plague. It doesn't matter what features they include in their TW ROMs since I consider TW just horrible.
I consider the Ultra to be a great device still and in most cases preferable over Samsung products but it has been in the market for one year now. On the other hand: it is still unsurpassed as a complete package when it comes to screen size and so forth.
It is also worth to mention that the Note series use 480 DPI phone mode so arguments like "it use the big screen better" is not valid. The Ultra runs 240 DPI phablet mode well with the GPE ROM and multi window etc is easily fixed through Xposed Framework.
I dare to say that the Ultra + 240 DPI + GPE ROM + Xposed Framework blows the competition out of the water software wise. The only competitors with a similar experience is the Nexus line or OnePlus One with CM11S.
My personal planning for the future is:
1. Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
2. 7 inch AOSP/CM phablets from other manufacturers
Since number 2 is very uncertain considering the lack of rumors about such devices, I am leaning heavily toward the alternative 1 since I made a mockup and deemed it acceptable from a carrying point of view.
If the Tablet Z3 Compact is considered too big, I don't see any better options than the Ultra at the moment. It still rules unsurpassed when it comes to large-screen tablet replacements.
Whatever you do, just stay the hell away from Samsung. Between the fugly TouchWiz, bloated software, KNOX warranty void, slow updates, I promise to myself I will never ever buy another Samsung device. Sure, flashing CM11 would fix all that problems, but you might as well just buy a Nexus 5 at that point as all the special features that make a Note device a Note device are gone.
Also, Samsung Note devices are not very mod/hack-friendly due to their proprietary S-Pen and digitizer driver, as well as numerous in-house parts that we just can't get the drivers for. A year later and we still can't get the NFC working correctly on the Note 3.
The Day Samsung Makes Note 4 with a 6.4 Inch HD Screen
The only day I will think of buying a Note 4 is when it is able to have the form Factor of a Z Ultra... No Phone with this config comes with this Form factor... Just love it!!
Considering buying one of these. They're fairly cheap second hand in perfect condition. And hardware seems decent enough. Right now i have a z3c which i've like a lot. But i thought i'd try just a slightly bigger phone. 4.8" would be perfect, but that's not really an option. But i'm concerned about development, if this phone is going to have a decent user base for development.
I do see that there's already a kernel available so you can root and all that without loosing drm features. So that's cool.
Same question here - how are you owners feeling after having it for a year? Would you keep it or go with something like a Nexus 5X or similar?
I have two months with my Xperia X already, and no regrets. Phone is performing really good, I only wish the fingerprint scanner was more accurate or in a different position, but besides that I'm really happy with the phone. Also, we're getting Android Nougat in november, that's gonna be a big improvement to what's good already.
Google Pixel phone is a total disappointment for me in terms of price, and I don't see other cool yet cheap options, so I won't switch to another phone this year. Also, Xperia XZ is not precisely my taste, so I think I'll stick with my X until Sony releases new models, like april or may of 2017 or second generation, probably in september.
I only wish cyanogenmod could be developed for the Xperia X. The stock ROM is great but I also like Cyanogenmod ROMs a lot.
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Same question here - how are you owners feeling after having it for a year? Would you keep it or go with something like a Nexus 5X or similar?
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This phone has just been out for 5 months ._.
This phone does not deliver top-notch raw performance, but what it brings is a very enjoyable experience. Regular apps load in a flash (even more responsive than a Death Note 7), animations are fast and smooth at the same time. Thumbs up to Sony for having made such a fast MM rom.
Generally i will not change phones in less than 3 years. However if there is something that forces me to change my phone, i will still go for an XZ or something similar.
I will review this phone like the way i reviewed Shadow Warrior 2: "It's a good one, but buy it on a sale".
I was waiting for new 5" Nexus, but it's way overpriced, like X performance and XZ. I don't care about waterproofing, as any phone looses it sooner or later anyway. I'm glad that Sony put back the usb hole to normal place and it's still usb micro - no need to change all my cables. Battery is good and everything works well. Also waiting for Cyanogenmod, as even X have less bloatware, than Xperia series had before, it's still too much for me. The fingerprint location is perfect, I can't imagine how I should use the phone otherwise (a lot phones have power button in one and fingerprint in a second place).
I'll add to what others have said above.
Have had the phone for two months and love it as well. I tend to use my phones mostly for social media (fb, snapchat, instagram, etc.), productivity (google drive, google keep, etc.) and music (podcasts and deezer/spotify). The battery lasts me one and a half day on regular use, which is great. It's fast responsive and the interface is the closest I can get to vanilla android. I think that it really delivers for the price.
Other than that: the phone has a really nice look (I really like the glass face), the speakers are nice, and the camera performs well (although I'm disappointed it doesn't shoot RAW).
What I'm hoping for is that the dev community for it gets bigger or that CM releases a rom for it (was running CM on my previous phone - a GS3). But at least we're getting Nougat very soon, so I'm hopeful.
can anyone see any light through their finger print sensor cuz i see a little white glance of display light through the lock key
Used to be the Z3c user.
If you're pleased with Z3c, you will be happy using X. The X will delivers:
-Much faster performance
-Much faster and better camera
-Better build quality (I prefer metal back than glass black)
-Better design - thinner and not too many holes, flaps, and ports on the body
-Slightly worse battery life (It's really hard to match the Z3c in longevity)
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I have two months with my Xperia X already, and no regrets. Phone is performing really good, I only wish the fingerprint scanner was more accurate or in a different position, but besides that I'm really happy with the phone. Also, we're getting Android Nougat in november, that's gonna be a big improvement to what's good already.
Google Pixel phone is a total disappointment for me in terms of price, and I don't see other cool yet cheap options, so I won't switch to another phone this year. Also, Xperia XZ is not precisely my taste, so I think I'll stick with my X until Sony releases new models, like april or may of 2017 or second generation, probably in september.
I only wish cyanogenmod could be developed for the Xperia X. The stock ROM is great but I also like Cyanogenmod ROMs a lot.
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Can anyone tell me about the fingerprint sensor being used in the US? I'm about to purchase the Xperia X tonight and I simply don't know whether to buy the international model here in the US or by the US model and flash the phone to enable the fingerprint sensor. Any help would be so greatly appreciated. By the way how do you all like the X? I was about to but the X Performance but I watched YouTube videos between the two and speed tests and the X came out on top and had better battery life. Am I doing the right thing by buying the X over the X performance? Thanks again.
The X Performance has a better camera and a faster processor.
The hardware for the XX is the same, except for the single sim / dual sim models. If you want fingerprint unlock you must flash an unbranded rom for e.g. the UK or Germany with Flashtool.
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The X Performance has a better camera and a faster processor.
The hardware for the XX is the same, except for the single sim / dual sim models. If you want fingerprint unlock you must flash an unbranded rom for e.g. the UK or Germany with Flashtool.
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Do you mind posting a link to where I can find that flsdhtool for the fingerprint sensor? So I definitely need to buy the US version and not the international version? Thanks for your help!
More about Flashtool here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920746
It includes a module called XperiFirm that allows you to flash many different firmwares.