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I'm patiently waiting for the c6806 but now that the galaxy note 3 is being announced and will be out early October , i might just jump ship and buy the note .Waiting for the LTE version is just painfully slow!
Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
i almost bought the c6802 and live with the 3g connection but im pretty sure i'll be banging my head if the LTE version comes out,blaming myself that i should have waited .
LTE to me is the now technology and 3G is just not acceptable in my vocabulary .
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Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
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100% agree with you in every aspects. I even if was waiting for the LTE version would never go for a Note 3. Those phone only can be compared on the performances. Size and build quality are really different.
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Absolutely not.
I've seen the conferences yesterday, and both Sony and Samsung haven't entertained me.
I mean, Sony has great products but tends to lay them out without any heart at all.
On the other end, Samsung has no innovation at all, but from their point of view it seems they're presenting the Holy Grail to the public year after year.
I have an S3, which is a great device, but on the right and on the bottom the "metal" bezel cut itself for no reason at all. It is 1 year old. And I paid FULL PRICE for this. And by full I mean that it costed me almost as much as a 6833.
I don't want Samsung to fill me with bs telling me the SPen is excellent, that the battery is interchangeable, that this, that that. I already know all that.
And i don't give a damn anymore.
ZU is progression, SW2 too, hell even the SBH52 impressed me more than the N3.
I'm gonna get on board with Sony, and whenever I'll see a guy with his Note 3 I'll say "Hey man, nice phone, I hope you're happy with what you got", not feeling envious, not feeling sorry for not buying it.
Because in the end, what YOU feel with your phone matters, not that extra 0.1ghz or that 1gb of ram.
Let's face it, about 1 out of 1000 Note3 or S4 users will root or even use their device to the fullest. The rest of them will simply feel happy that they can update their Facebook status saying 'I have a Note 3! Sweet! ", until they're not happy again when their friends buy something more powerful/stylish/popular.
I prefer being a 1 percenter, with a device that makes me smile, than being a 99 one, with the regret that I could have bought something more.
But hey, that's just my 2 cents.
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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There are 2 face on that medal you know...
On one face, Samsung hasn't always been keen with developers, not releasing sources and all, BUT thousands of people buy those, and as a result a lot of developers choose the device they develop on based on popularity, and on the fact that developing there would be more of a challenge.
On the other face, Sony has always been open with the developer community, but their popularity has started to grow big not that long ago, so we might have on the ZU the same level of devs there are on the Z.
As a matter of fact, some of them already started (just take a look on the Android development section), and that is even before the LTE version launched.
Let's wait for UK, US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. all have this device on their shelves, I have big expectations.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
I've been watching the Xperia Z Ultra since it came out, and, it looks like a fantastic phone; I am a big guy, so the size doesnt scare me, but I am waiting to see which US carriers will be carrying it.
I have owned at least 50 cell phones in my life, but mysteriously, NONE of them have been Sony phones, but I think this will change in the next 30 days.
It doesnt seem like there is alot of development on this phone yet, but, since many note 2 owners feel similiar to me, I am certain that there will be a large groupl that will move to this phone, once some US carriers are announced.
The quality of this phone seems fantastic; not sure if no flash for the camera will affect picture quality, and, hopefully, easy root/bootloader unlocking is just around the corner, since the sound from that tiny speaker appears to be lousy as well, but nothing that ViperMod or a different kernel wont fix!
The main problem SGN2 had and SGN3 as per first hands on, pics and vids also seems to have is, that - even if it is already to small for me as an Note 2 user - they're not making proper use of the screen size with view to UI on stock ROM.
In the end the Note 2 was and is just a sized up Galaxy.
And 2nd market (custom roms) is not a criterion on this topic for me, because if i have to customize the the product from day 1 to meet my needs, then there's something wrong and i'll better wait for the right deal.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
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Another user on another forum posted that maybe a real change will be seen when all S3s end their contract.
That's true for the S4 (they sold a lot less than what they were expecting), I was expecting it and I didn't fall for that.
That's true for the N3 too, as is a specced up S4 with SPen functions.
It will sell regardless of all this thoughts, but I could bet 1 out of 5 previous N2 owners will buy this N3, and the other 4 will scout around for a better choice or wait for the N4.
That's what I was planning to do skipping the iPhone 4 for the 5 (having the 3G), but Samsung stunned me with the S3 and I jumped ship.
I waited for a big change from the S3 to the S4, but I was ready to wait for the N3 this time.
Sony stunned me since they presented the ZU, I fell in love and that's it.
The only thing that would make me love even more this device would be having a stock-Google Play Edition.
That would be AWESOME.
Last but not least for the fact that we won't need implementation for the SPen, because the screen accept pens and pencils on its own...
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My friend and i were avid samsung users. We both had NOTE 1 then i sold it bought htc one x then sold it again and he too sold note and we both bought Note 2. Note 2 was a great device but design was my only grudge against it. Then in april i bought sony xperia z and now have htc one. And i swore that i wont fall in samsung bad design good performance trap. Currently trying to sell HTC ONE and i will buy Z ULTRA. and my friend too will buy z ultra no more shameSuck for us we had it enough
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nope
dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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Agree.....
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This
My friend's S4 has no more than 250 free Mb all time...
You clean the memory, exit, return to manage the ram, it has even less memory left... :what:
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Leaving Samsung behind. Time to move on. I love my new z ultra.. build quality is awesome. Note 3 is great, but same old same old except for specs. Each their own.
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Advertising, advertising, and advertising. Oh, I forgot about advertising.
They could sell a smart ring for your toe advertising it as the next companion for the summer for getting rid of fungus because it has a 5mpx camera that scans the pavement before you set your foot on it.
Everybody would simply love it.
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Nuwidol said:
Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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I actually really like the bezels on my Ultra. Helps to hold when watching a movie etc
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Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
FinancialWar said:
Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
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Yeah... remind me again why you're browsing the Z Ultra forum...?
You see, you're everything Samsung wants.
Go for it my friend, you deserve it.
Samsung wants to be the next Apple. Good for money at first, but look at the iPhone crowd now... oh yeah, these is no crowd.
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Hi guys, I just sold my S3 LTE , as I cracked the screen and didn't want to repair it. I was looking for upgrade before that, so now the time has come.
I need a device that is a bit more rugged, not necessarily waterproof and so on... I read that the S4 is even more fragile though.
Anyway. I'd really love a high end device, so I don't have to upgrade it for the next 2 years.
I don't play games but do a lot of browsing, emailing and other work related stuff. I have good cameras so the camera on the phone just needs to be OK, but It should bebetter than the S3. I'm now using an iphone 5 and while it's a marelously well build and fast, I'm not quite sure I could deal with it's quirks. I've been on Android for almost 6 years, so you get what I mean.
I'm looking at :
LG G2 16GB
LG Nexus 5 16GB
Galaxy S4
Huaiwei Ascend P6
HTC ONE
Anything else you might recommend, except for Sony...
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Hi guys, I just sold my S3 LTE , as I cracked the screen and didn't want to repair it. I was looking for upgrade before that, so now the time has come.
I need a device that is a bit more rugged, not necessarily waterproof and so on... I read that the S4 is even more fragile though.
Anyway. I'd really love a high end device, so I don't have to upgrade it for the next 2 years.
I don't play games but do a lot of browsing, emailing and other work related stuff. I have good cameras so the camera on the phone just needs to be OK, but It should bebetter than the S3. I'm now using an iphone 5 and while it's a marelously well build and fast, I'm not quite sure I could deal with it's quirks. I've been on Android for almost 6 years, so you get what I mean.
I'm looking at :
LG G2 16GB
LG Nexus 5 16GB
Galaxy S4
Huaiwei Ascend P6
HTC ONE
Anything else you might recommend, except for Sony...
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LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
Havoc-X said:
LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
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I really like the One too, but can you give some more details why would you choose it. And with the new model just around the corner - I'm no sure. I'm interested in the N5 too, bu tI'm put off by the small-ish battery
Friend of mine has the current One, played with it quite a bit. Its just everything i would want in a phone. Its really well made, fits very comfortably in your hand. I'm a fan of IPS LCD over AMOLED. Operations are much smoother and faster than Samsung. Blinkfeed is awesome (for me personally) and you have all the freedom of Android with a very good display incased in a very good body. Also i dont really need crap like airwave and air gesture, in fact, since 4.3 my smart stay barely works.
The One is just my personal choice, i think its the most balance between design, UI and performance. LG G2 isnt far behind. If you going to go with the One, u might as well wait for the new one. If you dont plan to get the new one, i'd probably go the G2 over the Old 1. The Snapdragon 800 will last u much longer than the 600 in the One (2013 edition) The G2 has IPS LCD as well and is very very fast. Only thing lacking is the aluminum body and blinkfeed. Also LG has a pretty good multi-tasking interface, it opens small windows of apps. I suggest you Check out YouTube for the G2.
Depending on how much you want to wait, you should definitely also consider the oppo find 7. This phone's a beauty in my eyes. Specs are great too.
Another interesting phone is the oneplus one with cm. Its going to be 5.5inch with the size of a 5 inch sony z1, qualcomm s800 and its supposed to cost less than 400$. Too bad that there arent any real pics yet and the release is going to be somewhere in Q2 of 2014. So, it can be 1 month or almost 3 :<
I would suggest you go for the All New HTC One or the Xperia Z2 ...both of the devices r going to hit the shelves with in weeks !!
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I would suggest you go for the All New HTC One or the Xperia Z2 ...both of the devices r going to hit the shelves with in weeks !!
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I'm not buying a Sony, that's for sure. The htc one is another thing, but I'm afraid it will be quite expensive at launch, at least that's the way it is where I live. The way I see things is I have two options - get the G2 now or wait for the M8, hoping it won't be THAT expensive
Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
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LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
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Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
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Not an option. I'm getting a device from a local carrier, and they don't have oppo.
gsw5700 said:
Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
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Mafioso said:
Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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The only reason I'm not sure I want the S4 is that it's deemed even more fragile than the S3. It's slower chipset is also a bit of a disadvantage.
I can get the qualcomm version, so yes - vanilla OS is possible.
As for the G2 - it's awesome and I don't think storage will be that much of an issue. The HTC one is also an option, but the same as S4 - slower chiset and I hera the camera just sucks, but I have a DSLR and a mirrorless camera so I'm not going to expect much from a phone camera anyway. I'm using the iphone 5 now and while typing on it is a real pain, the size is really nice refresh fromthe huge slate the S3 was. I really miss the huge screen though.
The whole thing is quite complicated, as my wife has the RAZR I, but wants an Iphone, so I got one to test it out while waiting for my next android, and I actually like it a lot but the battery is basically on par with the S3, but the screen.... it's so small. It's superior when it comes to actally using it as a phone.
Which one of these handsets is most durable when dropped? I think the g2 would have a bad time due to edge to edge design.
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Which one of these handsets is most durable when dropped? I think the g2 would have a bad time due to edge to edge design.
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iphone 5s for durability.
For me:
1-Note 3
2-Sony Z2
3-Iphone 5s
4-S4
This year I am leaving my S3 also and this is the list of devices I am targeting of buying from !!
I will get one of these bad boys --->
1. Note 3 (appealing in every aspect)
2. HTC ONE 2014 (has microSD card support)
3. Xperia Z2 (Sony really stepping up their game)
4. iPhone 6 (a really good phone for basic telephony)
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I recommend nexus & S4 from the point of view of a good battery and high specs and features, Also the nexus 5 has good feature which is wireless charging, The S4 has higher features than the nexus as usual samsung strikes with stunning technology.
-Mina
I am getting a new phone in two months. Got an S3 now. This is my top choices :
1. Note 3
2. Xperia Z2
3 HTC one (2014)
4. S5
Very difficult to choose
I'm between n5 s4 and g2 for now...
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Mafioso said:
Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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i know a few people with S4's, both versions. They both completely suck. In all honesty, the design isnt that bad, it looks very similar to the s3 but the feeling is alot better. However, Samsungs OS skin just down right fails. The ui is laggy, and please dont say theres no lag. i dont know how people dont notice this crap. The UI lags. Maybe the galaxy s4 google play edition, is a viable option.
There is literally nothing that the S4 has over its competitors. If you compare it to the HTC one (2013), then really, the One beats it hands down. You really dont need crap like the air wave.
SGH-m819n galaxy mega running the megafire v5 rom. Ive had two people literally sell their note3 after seeing how big and fast my phone is. 60 dollar truly unlimited unthrottled LTE data on tmobiles network though metro is a pretty nice perk, too.
Hi all,
I need your input between buying Z Ultra now and waiting for the Note 4. Please let me know your thoughts.
As background, I recently cracked the screen of my Note 2 and am in search of a new phablet. Although I loved my Note 2, I am not biased towards any brand and am open minded to Sony.
Anyway, now that rumor has it that Note 4 will likely be available by October, I am interested and want to wait to see what it has to offer. On the other hand, Xperia Z Ultra is a nice phone with big screen but it seems to be lacking some of the features that Samsung has to take advantage of the big screen like split screen. Also, the Z Ultra also lacks the integrated S Pen (use occasionally) and dedicated apps. However, I do realize that it is a very capable phone and the price makes it good value.
Please keep in mind that whatever I end up purchasing, I plan to use it for at least 2 years or more. I do have a spare phone to bridge me between now until the Note 4's release later this year (i.e. not rushed/pressured to buy now).
Thanks guys and please give me your 2 cents.
Well if you are happy with the size of the Note 2 screen, I would probably just stay with Note 4 then.
In my case, I was very disappointed with Note 3 not being at least 6" so I skipped it and went to Ultra instead. Now I dont think I can go any lower...certainly not 5.7" as Note 4 is supposed to be .
Ultra does have small updates which are similar to the multi app thing for Note.
Thanks for the feedback! Do you find that carrying the phone outside is a challenge due to its bulk? I get to play with one recently and while I enjoyed using it as a tablet indoor, I found it hard to carry it around outside. It barely fits into my front jeans' pocket (not tight jeans) and I ended up holding it in my hand. Did the size bother you and how do you carry it outside?
Also, do you find the screen looks washed out? In the Gmail app, the white background makes the screen looks really washed out... compared to the screen of my Note 2. Perhaps this is personal preference.
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Thanks for the feedback! Do you find that carrying the phone outside is a challenge due to its bulk? I get to play with one recently and while I enjoyed using it as a tablet indoor, I found it hard to carry it around outside. It barely fits into my front jeans' pocket (not tight jeans) and I ended up holding it in my hand. Did the size bother you and how do you carry it outside?
Also, do you find the screen looks washed out? In the Gmail app, the white background makes the screen looks really washed out... compared to the screen of my Note 2. Perhaps this is personal preference.
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I recently just bought my Xperia Z Ultra after a year with my Xperia Z...
I got mine fom ebay for £210.. fantastic value i think for a device with such a big HD screen, and a quad 2.2 cpu..
Much better for me i think.. i was kinda torn between ultra and z2.. but i'd have to spend £550..
Size doesn't really bother me but you need to think about your lifestyle..
I have lockers at work so i can safely keep my phone in there.. otherwise it'[d be abit annoying keeping it in my trouser pockets
I only really wear jeans on a night out.. so i wouldn't take my phone there anyway.. I have a backup small phone to save numbers and stuff..
I would recommend the Ultra rather than a Note 4.
It is worth to mention that the Note runs 480 DPI phone mode as standard and suffers from problems when you try to change to 240 DPI phablet mode - this is on a stock TouchWiz ROM.
The Ultra runs 320 DPI as standard and is easy to change to 240 DPI phablet. The reason I mention this is because a large screen device is better in phablet/tablet mode rather than phone mode. I am talking about things such as dual pane view in Gmail, Google Play and desktop style tabs in Chrome or AOSP Browser and so on.
In order to get the most out of the Ultra, including proper optimization for the large screen, my recommendation is as follows:
1. GPe ROM or CM11 based ROMs.
2. Change to 240 DPI.
Note: The latest Sony 4.4.x ROMs suffers from broken notifications when the DPI is changed to 240. This is because of their customized integrated notification/quick settings screen. Because of this, the GPe or CM11 route is way better for large screen optimization since those ROMs change into phablet mode without "complaining".
3. Install Xposed Framework and the App Settings module.
4. Install Xposed MultiWindow - it gives multi window similar to the Note series. Pair this with the MultiWindow Sidebar app.
5. Install Nova Launcher or other launcher that supports phablet mode well.
If you want Sony apps: No problems. Album, Movies, Walkman, Sketch and so forth works great on the GPe ROM. There is even Sony Xperia launchers available. Those apps works great under 240 DPI too.
I had a Note 1 and II before the Ultra and I can only see that this Sony with above mentioned customizations blows the Note series out of the water. Vanilla Android (GPe) in 240 DPI with Xposed Framework and a safe update path to Android L the way Google intended speaks volumes.
It is also worth to mention that the Sony Edition can be reflashed into GPe through the ported GPe ROM. It can't be 100% converted to GPe yet because of different partition schemes but the only practical consequence of it is the fact that Google OTAs doesn't work. For upgrades, the whole ROM must be reflashed.
The ROM selection for Sony Edition is bigger, making it a better choice.
After trying the Note 3 a couple of times, there's only one area where I can see it as being better: the camera.
Ultra has a weak camera but it can be fixed through the DSC-QX/QX100.
From my point of view, the only thing I miss on the Ultra as it is today is 64 GB internal storage beside the microSD card. Otherwise, it offers a very compelling total solution for my needs.
The only devices that can compete properly is one with similar screen size (or up to 7 inch) that runs either Google vanilla or spiced up vanilla, i.e. CM or similar paired with even more powerful hardware. Today, no such competitor exists. If the Ultra wouldn't be there, I would get the Oppo Find 7 though - it is closest.
I don't consider devices from manufacturers that bloat Android heavily (such as HTC, LG and Samsung) together with severely fragmented hardware with different CPU/GPU depending on market causing incompatibility with ROMs for other versions etc to be viable options.
I can only see two devices today that are partly in Ultra territory: Huawei Ascend Mate and Oppo N1. Both of them offers large screens but smaller than the Ultra - but they suffer from weaker hardware (Snapdragon 400 or 600 vs 800).
The Ultra is in a class of its own and I think the closest we can come to an alternative will be either a "Z2 Tablet Mini" 7 inch (considering rumors that Sony aren't releasing a true Ultra successor" or an Oppo N2, i.e. a successor to the Oppo N1.
I am quite sure that Sony will release a device in the same category as the Ultra. A Z2 Tablet Mini LTE would tick the box even if they market it as a tablet rather than smartphone. I don't think they will leave the 7 inch segment open but the next device won't be labelled an "Ultra successor" but a "smaller version of the Z2 Tablet".
The best option is to get the bargained priced Ultra and then simply wait for other phablets between 6.5-7 inch. I would also add that I don't think Snapdragon 805 is worth it (the upgrade) from the 800. The next big thing is the 810/815 and AFAIK, they will start ship them in Q4 2014. It is therefore probable that the first devices with them will be released during Q4 or Q1 (Mobile World Congress 2015). The Q3 collection will mostly consist of 805 based products and I don't think the step to them are worth it - Snapdragon 800 is that good already.
Personally, I have decided to wait for Snapdragon 810/815 before considering an Ultra replacement.
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I would recommend the Ultra rather than a Note 4.
It is worth to mention that the Note runs 480 DPI phone mode as standard and suffers from problems when you try to change to 240 DPI phablet mode - this is on a stock TouchWiz ROM.
The Ultra runs 320 DPI as standard and is easy to change to 240 DPI phablet. The reason I mention this is because a large screen device is better in phablet/tablet mode rather than phone mode. I am talking about things such as dual pane view in Gmail, Google Play and desktop style tabs in Chrome or AOSP Browser and so on.
In order to get the most out of the Ultra, including proper optimization for the large screen, my recommendation is as follows:
1. GPe ROM or CM11 based ROMs.
2. Change to 240 DPI.
Note: The latest Sony 4.4.x ROMs suffers from broken notifications when the DPI is changed to 240. This is because of their customized integrated notification/quick settings screen. Because of this, the GPe or CM11 route is way better for large screen optimization since those ROMs change into phablet mode without "complaining".
3. Install Xposed Framework and the App Settings module.
4. Install Xposed MultiWindow - it gives multi window similar to the Note series. Pair this with the MultiWindow Sidebar app.
5. Install Nova Launcher or other launcher that supports phablet mode well.
If you want Sony apps: No problems. Album, Movies, Walkman, Sketch and so forth works great on the GPe ROM. There is even Sony Xperia launchers available. Those apps works great under 240 DPI too.
I had a Note 1 and II before the Ultra and I can only see that this Sony with above mentioned customizations blows the Note series out of the water. Vanilla Android (GPe) in 240 DPI with Xposed Framework and a safe update path to Android L the way Google intended speaks volumes.
It is also worth to mention that the Sony Edition can be reflashed into GPe through the ported GPe ROM. It can't be 100% converted to GPe yet because of different partition schemes but the only practical consequence of it is the fact that Google OTAs doesn't work. For upgrades, the whole ROM must be reflashed.
The ROM selection for Sony Edition is bigger, making it a better choice.
After trying the Note 3 a couple of times, there's only one area where I can see it as being better: the camera.
Ultra has a weak camera but it can be fixed through the DSC-QX/QX100.
From my point of view, the only thing I miss on the Ultra as it is today is 64 GB internal storage beside the microSD card. Otherwise, it offers a very compelling total solution for my needs.
The only devices that can compete properly is one with similar screen size (or up to 7 inch) that runs either Google vanilla or spiced up vanilla, i.e. CM or similar paired with even more powerful hardware. Today, no such competitor exists. If the Ultra wouldn't be there, I would get the Oppo Find 7 though - it is closest.
I don't consider devices from manufacturers that bloat Android heavily (such as HTC, LG and Samsung) together with severely fragmented hardware with different CPU/GPU depending on market causing incompatibility with ROMs for other versions etc to be viable options.
I can only see two devices today that are partly in Ultra territory: Huawei Ascend Mate and Oppo N1. Both of them offers large screens but smaller than the Ultra - but they suffer from weaker hardware (Snapdragon 400 or 600 vs 800).
The Ultra is in a class of its own and I think the closest we can come to an alternative will be either a "Z2 Tablet Mini" 7 inch (considering rumors that Sony aren't releasing a true Ultra successor" or an Oppo N2, i.e. a successor to the Oppo N1.
I am quite sure that Sony will release a device in the same category as the Ultra. A Z2 Tablet Mini LTE would tick the box even if they market it as a tablet rather than smartphone. I don't think they will leave the 7 inch segment open but the next device won't be labelled an "Ultra successor" but a "smaller version of the Z2 Tablet".
The best option is to get the bargained priced Ultra and then simply wait for other phablets between 6.5-7 inch. I would also add that I don't think Snapdragon 805 is worth it (the upgrade) from the 800. The next big thing is the 810/815 and AFAIK, they will start ship them in Q4 2014. It is therefore probable that the first devices with them will be released during Q4 or Q1 (Mobile World Congress 2015). The Q3 collection will mostly consist of 805 based products and I don't think the step to them are worth it - Snapdragon 800 is that good already.
Personally, I have decided to wait for Snapdragon 810/815 before considering an Ultra replacement.
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I've had my Ultra for a few days and i've tried GPe.. however the benchmarks are much lower than stock.. and that put me off hugely..
And don't forget that the Ultra's brother, the Ultra GPe will receive Android "L" very quickly after release this fall, meaning we'll also get it very quickly by porting it (which is easy). The Ultra is also incredible cheap now, and you're still getting a Snapdragon 800, so it's still a beast and totally worth it. I've had mine since its release and i simply love it.
(I also came from the Galaxy Note btw).
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I've had my Ultra for a few days and i've tried GPe.. however the benchmarks are much lower than stock.. and that put me off hugely..
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Yeah, the GPe ROMs, especially the KitKat versions are scoring pretty low, and it's the same thing on the Nexus models. Note that this only applies to ANTUTU. Try the other GPU benchmarks, and you'll quickly learn that there aren't really that big of a difference between the stock and GPe ROM. The 4.4.3 GPe ROM is also A LOT smoother and quicker than the stock KitKat ROM. Enable ART and it's even smoother. No hickups AT ALL.
Recommended, 10/10.
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And don't forget that the Ultra's brother, the Ultra GPe will receive Android "L" very quickly after release this fall, meaning we'll also get it very quickly by porting it (which is easy). The Ultra is also incredible cheap now, and you're still getting a Snapdragon 800, so it's still a beast and totally worth it. I've had mine since its release and i simply love it.
(I also came from the Galaxy Note btw).
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Yeah, the GPe ROMs, especially the KitKat versions are scoring pretty low, and it's the same thing on the Nexus models. Note that this only applies to ANTUTU. Try the other GPU benchmarks, and you'll quickly learn that there aren't really that big of a difference between the stock and GPe ROM. The 4.4.3 GPe ROM is also A LOT smoother and quicker than the stock KitKat ROM. Enable ART and it's even smoother. No hickups AT ALL.
Recommended, 10/10.
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What do you run at the moment? What launcher, rom and kernel please
The GPe ROM is really, really smooth and offers very reliable memory management too. Despite some benchmarks being lower, it offers very high real world performance.
The only thing stopping me from ART is Xposed - I will enable it right away when this mod is compatible.
I think the only competing ROMs to the GPe one is the other AOSP/CM based things out there. Sony's own stock ROM was removed from my list when I noticed that 240 DPI breaks the notification bar completely.
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I'm running the 4.4.3 GPe ROM with stock kernel and ART enabled, so no Xposed. I'm using the Epic Launcher which is GEL but with a lot of features. I've also slimmed it all down by removing a lot of "garbage" that I don't use, but I'm pretty much running stock GPe. It's totally worth it.
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I'm running the 4.4.3 GPe ROM with stock kernel and ART enabled, so no Xposed. I'm using the Epic Launcher which is GEL but with a lot of features. I've also slimmed it all down by removing a lot of "garbage" that I don't use, but I'm pretty much running stock GPe. It's totally worth it.
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You not bothered by dt2w? i like to preserve my power button
Thank you all very much for your inputs! The device is great when I use it at home as a tablet when in the end it was just too big for me to carry around outside. I don't know what to get but I probably will wait for the Note 4 to see what it has to offer.
I had the Note 2 as well and found it an ugly looking toy after using the beast we call Z Ultra. The ZU is a work of art compared to the Note line, even the 3. I'm 6'2", never issues with storing the ZU in my pants/jeans. Even with Nillkin flip cover. Take the plunge, as this is the best phone ever made so far. Period.
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Thank you all very much for your inputs! The device is great when I use it at home as a tablet when in the end it was just too big for me to carry around outside. I don't know what to get but I probably will wait for the Note 4 to see what it has to offer.
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I will consider if note 4 if its totally different design than this...or they implemented the youm display tech on it...
Knox is one thing to back out for but if towelroot can bypass it so maybe that something to look out for...
But one thing on me, i just can't deal a phone that smaller than 6" after i used the ultra...its like any phone smaller than this even z2 it's look like a toy...
And i dont like Samsung setting menu or icon...its just ugly and cartoonish...sony ui and menu is more mature looking from my perspective...
It just my point of view, hope samsung users dont take it personally..
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Isn't the Ultra 2 just around the corner?
After having the ultra i can honestly say il probably never get a note again as long as they keep making ultra's
The Ultra 2 ( if it comes out ) should hopefully be alot better.
However the total crap camera and no LED kinda hold back the original from being the best device ever all around.
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I would recommend the Ultra rather than a Note 4.
It is worth to mention that the Note runs 480 DPI phone mode as standard and suffers from problems when you try to change to 240 DPI phablet mode - this is on a stock TouchWiz ROM.
The Ultra runs 320 DPI as standard and is easy to change to 240 DPI phablet. The reason I mention this is because a large screen device is better in phablet/tablet mode rather than phone mode. I am talking about things such as dual pane view in Gmail, Google Play and desktop style tabs in Chrome or AOSP Browser and so on.
In order to get the most out of the Ultra, including proper optimization for the large screen, my recommendation is as follows:
1. GPe ROM or CM11 based ROMs.
2. Change to 240 DPI.
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Question, I will be getting GPE version of Z Ultra, when you say change to 240 DPI are you referring to changing it using the Xposed framework perapp settings?
thanks
Frankly speak go with note 3. Sony don't age as well as Samsung. I regretted not going note 3. Sony was nice 1year but it's aging and support is.meh
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300$ now... in 6 months 200$, ultra is the most cheaper
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Question, I will be getting GPE version of Z Ultra, when you say change to 240 DPI are you referring to changing it using the Xposed framework perapp settings?
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I change to 240 DPI through build.prop and then use the App Settings Exposed module to switch apps to tablet mode.
Regarding buying a Note 3 - I don't see any reason. I have used it a couple of times and the combination of TouchWiz, bloat, efuse and Knox make it a horrible experience compared to a Z Ultra with GPe ROM and Xposed etc. It is also worth to.mention that the Note 3 uses 480 DPI phone mode and that Samsung apps has a tendency to crash under 240 DPI.
Another thing is that the best Note 3 features such as multiwindow works great on the Ultra through Xposed.
I would never consider a Note 3 as an option even if I had both the Note I and II.
Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as the Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes the price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with just AUD350 the phone has become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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I'm thinking the same as yourself, as it is becoming more affordable here in the US as well.
Seen it as inexpensive as $250, either new or gently used.
Only negative is no LED for flash, which means no light for emergency use.
I'm looking for an inexpensive LTE mobile phone, this MIGHT BE IT.
Another negative; no removable battery.
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If you have no real use for a camera, then yes this phone is still a beast.
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”screen flashlight ” in the Google play store works pretty well on our Z ultra.
I've had mine for about a year now, and it's still a very powerful device. You won't have any issues with running apps and games. Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
Screen is still very good, battery life is (still) good, camera is not great, and performance is top notch. It was worth it to me when I paid $1000 for it a year ago, and it's definitely worth it now.
Check out the reviews and stuff on YouTube or something if you're still not sure.
I was afraid at first i thought it will be too big. But now i can imagine myself having smaller Screen even samsung Note seems small now, Too small.
As it has been said, if don't care for the Camera much Z Ultra is the Best.
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Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is now over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes it to price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with AUD350 the phone has just become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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Depends on how you look at it. If performance is the metric, you won't be disappointed. if you use camera extensively, well look elsewhere. and the last one, the battery life. It's quite good but if you compare with devices nowadays, there are better alternative. I'd say wait for the Z3X (if ever) in about a month. If it doesn't come up, then i can imagine the Z Ultra will be cheaper along the way.
Thank you all for your inputs!
I personally do not use mobile cameras for artistic purposes. I already have a Dslr so the camera is only for note-taking or public transport schedule. I think I just want a phone that is slightly faster than my HTC M7. It's true that there are better performers out there since this is a year old phone but any faster CPU than a Z Ultra has little to do with my uses.
Also there isn't a mobile phone at the moment that is as massive as this. I love the idea that I could read books with it in my bed. The Galaxy Note Pro is too heavy to hold in the hand for a long period of time.
The only bummer is the speaker. I have been spoiled by the M7's speakers for a year plus, very little devices top its superb sound quality. It will be the only downgrade for me should I go for this phone.
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Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
18 months supposedly. The Z Ultra should receive L, but the Z3 and Z2 should get it first. I would guess at least a few months or more after L is released.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
However Ultra hasn't been selling as well as they'd like they have probably even given up on releasing a successor.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
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Im sure it will get L, but I personally don't think we should expect more.
Recently, got a Z Ultra (from a Mega 6.3). Don't regret it for the most part. Screen isn't the brightest in direct sunlight (not that the mega was that much better), Camera quality isn't as good as my mega imo, sound is lower (that my mega) I'm assuming because of the waterproofing, and kinda a fingerprint magnet. Other than that no complaints.
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Normally 18 months?. I would think the GPe will get L before the Sony ZU. it was months before we got 4.4, although we did get 4.4.4 very fast
Just bought a second hand for AU$300. This shady guy sold me one with overheat issue. The phone isn't even very hot but it just freezes on me and stuck in boot loop.
BOOT LOOPS, My Favorite Breakfast Cereal!
The reason may well be because of the fact the BEAST is having one of America's favorite breakfast cereals...Boot Loops! After several minutes of this heat is generated in the upper left corner around the camera area. Liken it to running around a track numerous times - it takes a toll on it/you physically.
I've read it on one of the threads several times over the months just after the XZU became available as a GPe. Many new users were trying to root, flash ROM's, and fix the partitions since they're different on the GPe's and their devices suffered the boot loops too.
Download Flashtool, run a TA Backup and then flash a stock .ftf if that's what your looking to do. Providing this device is not HOT. Why would one sell a BEAST of a device with a bad case of the boot loops to begin with? Better yet why on earth would you buy one in that condition? All kinds of flags would've/should've been raised - didn't you even question how it got that way or why it was in that state to begin with?
They have these bad boys are selling for $314.99 at http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/ in the United States. Expansys sells internationally direct from the comfort of your own safe and legal hideout. THAT would've been a more prudent thing to do AND you would've gotten a warranty on top of it!
Just sayin'
There don't appear to be many of these devices around, and I am curious to try and find out how many.
I love the hardware. If it was just about the specs, I'd have bought one already!
But I'm undecided.
If the bootloader was unlockable, with custom recoveries and custom ROMs, I'd have bought one. However, with Asus not cooperating, and I think too few devices around, I am not sure this will achieve the critical mass to get the attention it deserves.
Sadly, the lack of international availability, and, well, Asus being Asus, means that if this was an experiment to judge the demand for super-sized phablets, then I think it failed. I don't think we'll see another from Asus.
I have one, and will be keeping it for now. However it is not my daily driver, and until AT&T fixes their HSPA+ network in my area, or root becomes available so I can unlock bands, this device will stay just a play around device.
Hi,
I have one since about 2 months and I love its big screen, reviews said that there was no lag, no freezes etc... False, the proc is not that good and I'm really desapointed but that's not why I will change.
I'll change because I cannot accept that an android phone cannot have root or unlockable bootloader, for me it's not an android...
If I wanted an extremly locked phone, I'd choose an iPhone... lol
Oh and... still no Nougat update for other versions than ZF3 5.2 and 5.5 (Stopped because euh... well, because what in fact?)
So, for a 750€ smartphone...
Asus? Never again.
wow, only six people bought one? and one of those is going to sell it. doesn't look too good.
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Yea I have it and im using it on T-Mobile which is OK with hspa+ but the bootloader unlock not coming out is killing my joy with the phone. Awesome device but I find myself using my OnePlus 3t more because of Asus stupid choices with the bootloader.
Have one & will keep it. The only really irritating thing so far is having both speakers on one side, when you keep the phone in landscape mode; but I'm getting used to tolerate it and can use the headphones anyway.
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Have one & will keep it. The only really irritating thing so far is having both speakers on one side, when you keep the phone in landscape mode; but I'm getting used to tolerate it and can use the headphones anyway.
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the iphone7 has a dummy speaker, one set of grilles are just blind holes!
so I guess even having genuine dual speakers is a win, but yes, would have been better to have them top and bottom, or even on the long edge.
the availability of an official boot loader unlock tool has swung me back to considering this phone again.
I have had my Z3Ultra for a number of months now after I purchased it to replace my nice but also annoying Huawei P8 Max. I totally love this phone. Can't complain with the exception of the lack of Root, which as I write this message, the developer community is working on bringing it to our device. Apart from this, I am looking to keep it until a new device is released with much better spec but at least the same size possibly even a 7.9" (YES it can be as like the Huawei P8 Max, this phone has a lot of wasted space and overall size can still be kept to current size- check Xiaomi Mi Mix) with ultra thin bezels and curved display, stylus pen, keyboard attachment, better cpu, 128GB or 256GB ROM, 6GB+ RAM, dual sim + independent sd slot and finally quad speakers (top, bottom, left, right side with similar quality to the ones already on it (they are awesome, I mean it). Anyway, enough dreaming from me, lets hope someone from Asus is reading my expectations of the next version.
I have one and will keep it, i am coming from a sony z ultra that I've been using for almost 2 years and sony z3 tablet compact 4g 3 months before that and a sony z1 before that, i have only had the asus zenfone 3 ultra for 1 week but have wanted this device since may last year, i bought this for £420 from eglobal and only bought this because my cousin wanted a better device than the Samsung s4 but he wanted to buy the sony z5 because he knew i enjoyed my sony devices but never asked why i didn't have a updated version like the z2 or z3, i sent him the information about the zenfone 3 series and the asus launch videos, he finally bought the deluxe 820 version after 3 months from the same seller but wanted this as soon as i showed these devices to him, i also bought my dad a sony z2 for work and recently upgraded his device to the asus zenfone 3 5.2 inch version. My cousin now wants the ultra version and im going to also buy his deluxe version to use for work. This is the best decision ive made but would buy a xiaomi mi max for less than 200 if i don't get the deluxe from him and stay with my ultra device too. I drive for work and have always had large screen devices for 3-4 years. Lets see what asus has to offer other than the AR version as this is only a small version or normal size lol. I've been recently looking around for root and unlocking bootloader and will wait for asus to release this to all.
Xiaomi Mi Mix? specs? quat speakers?
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I have had my Z3Ultra for a number of months now after I purchased it to replace my nice but also annoying Huawei P8 Max. I totally love this phone. Can't complain with the exception of the lack of Root, which as I write this message, the developer community is working on bringing it to our device. Apart from this, I am looking to keep it until a new device is released with much better spec but at least the same size possibly even a 7.9" (YES it can be as like the Huawei P8 Max, this phone has a lot of wasted space and overall size can still be kept to current size- check Xiaomi Mi Mix) with ultra thin bezels and curved display, stylus pen, keyboard attachment, better cpu, 128GB or 256GB ROM, 6GB+ RAM, dual sim + independent sd slot and finally quad speakers (top, bottom, left, right side with similar quality to the ones already on it (they are awesome, I mean it). Anyway, enough dreaming from me, lets hope someone from Asus is reading my expectations of the next version.
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Where did you get this Xiaomi Mi Mix specs? quad speakers? stylus pen? curved display? keyboard attachment? sd slot? Man, what are you smocking, cause I want some!!!
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Where did you get this Xiaomi Mi Mix specs? quad speakers? stylus pen? curved display? keyboard attachment? sd slot? Man, what are you smocking, cause I want some!!!
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It is nice to dream and imagine good things in life and the spec posted (as stated in my original post) is what I want to see in an ideal device of this size. Oh No. I am definitely not smoking anything. Just dreaming the possibility of a perfect phablet (A mix between ZF3U, Samsung Galaxy S7/S8 type edge display and mi mix type bezelless front with the extras as cherry on top).
BTW. As I discovered very recently ASUS Customer Service for the ZenFone series is rubbish to say the least but more like non-existent. God help us when we need care for our precious ZF3U.
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It is nice to dream and imagine good things in life and the spec posted (as stated in my original post) is what I want to see in an ideal device of this size. Oh No. I am definitely not smoking anything. Just dreaming the possibility of a perfect phablet (A mix between ZF3U, Samsung Galaxy S7/S8 type edge display and mi mix type bezelless front with the extras as cherry on top).
BTW. As I discovered very recently ASUS Customer Service for the ZenFone series is rubbish to say the least but more like non-existent. God help us when we need care for our precious ZF3U.
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You are wright buddy, this is what I want too but no body makes it. :laugh::laugh:
My wife had 1. She dropped it face first on a concrete with flip cover that came with the phone. The screen still shattered. The flip cover is coming covering the screen but still didn't protect it from the impact. I guess that's the gamble when you have a very large screen.
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Love it so far
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wow, only six people bought one? and one of those is going to sell it. doesn't look too good.
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I have one and love it, despite the stuff that is installed there out of the box. Its fast, bright and really useful. One thing that slightly upsets me - need to reboot it every second day to keep at the top of its abilities.
Overall - I'd never hesitate to recommend it.:good:
I had one, then gave it to my daughter while i used other smaller screen phone... Then i realize i got hooked on big screen, so i bought another one for me
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wow, only six people bought one? and one of those is going to sell it. doesn't look too good.
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Mainly, you CAN'T assume that just because folks don't report stuff here on XDA, that no one has it. Next, many users are Chinese, or from Taiwan. They won't necessarily speak English. Third, since the LTE bands are NOT available in the U.S.A., that kills more of the market. Lastly, the going rate is around $500 USD, if someone here DID want to buy one. Ours is black screen bricked right now, so we're trying to get help with the (WW) international version unbricking.
I should have been more clear, what I was interested in was how many XDA forum members have bought this, so as to gauge the level of interest and likelihood of hackers and developers doing interesting things with it. I don't know enough about custom Asus ROMS in this respect to actually do the work, but would have been willing to help test rooting and custom recoveries, only I ended up buying an LG V20 because it had all the features I wanted and the AZf3U didn't, and also my concerns about Asus's upgrade longevity set in.
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Mainly, you CAN'T assume that just because folks don't report stuff here on XDA, that no one has it. Next, many users are Chinese, or from Taiwan. They won't necessarily speak English. Third, since the LTE bands are NOT available in the U.S.A., that kills more of the market. Lastly, the going rate is around $500 USD, if someone here DID want to buy one. Ours is black screen bricked right now, so we're trying to get help with the (WW) international version unbricking.
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I was planning to get zf3 ultra but with almost no rom support, I might get the mi max 2 instead.
I don't think the mi mix is a good idea since it has a fragile ceramic body. I prefer metal body...
*Edit: I gave away my mi max (helium ver) and back to using my 5 years old coolpad 9976a