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I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as the Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes the price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with just AUD350 the phone has become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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I'm thinking the same as yourself, as it is becoming more affordable here in the US as well.
Seen it as inexpensive as $250, either new or gently used.
Only negative is no LED for flash, which means no light for emergency use.
I'm looking for an inexpensive LTE mobile phone, this MIGHT BE IT.
Another negative; no removable battery.
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If you have no real use for a camera, then yes this phone is still a beast.
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which means no light for emergency use.
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”screen flashlight ” in the Google play store works pretty well on our Z ultra.
I've had mine for about a year now, and it's still a very powerful device. You won't have any issues with running apps and games. Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
Screen is still very good, battery life is (still) good, camera is not great, and performance is top notch. It was worth it to me when I paid $1000 for it a year ago, and it's definitely worth it now.
Check out the reviews and stuff on YouTube or something if you're still not sure.
I was afraid at first i thought it will be too big. But now i can imagine myself having smaller Screen even samsung Note seems small now, Too small.
As it has been said, if don't care for the Camera much Z Ultra is the Best.
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Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is now over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes it to price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with AUD350 the phone has just become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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Depends on how you look at it. If performance is the metric, you won't be disappointed. if you use camera extensively, well look elsewhere. and the last one, the battery life. It's quite good but if you compare with devices nowadays, there are better alternative. I'd say wait for the Z3X (if ever) in about a month. If it doesn't come up, then i can imagine the Z Ultra will be cheaper along the way.
Thank you all for your inputs!
I personally do not use mobile cameras for artistic purposes. I already have a Dslr so the camera is only for note-taking or public transport schedule. I think I just want a phone that is slightly faster than my HTC M7. It's true that there are better performers out there since this is a year old phone but any faster CPU than a Z Ultra has little to do with my uses.
Also there isn't a mobile phone at the moment that is as massive as this. I love the idea that I could read books with it in my bed. The Galaxy Note Pro is too heavy to hold in the hand for a long period of time.
The only bummer is the speaker. I have been spoiled by the M7's speakers for a year plus, very little devices top its superb sound quality. It will be the only downgrade for me should I go for this phone.
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Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
18 months supposedly. The Z Ultra should receive L, but the Z3 and Z2 should get it first. I would guess at least a few months or more after L is released.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
However Ultra hasn't been selling as well as they'd like they have probably even given up on releasing a successor.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
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Im sure it will get L, but I personally don't think we should expect more.
Recently, got a Z Ultra (from a Mega 6.3). Don't regret it for the most part. Screen isn't the brightest in direct sunlight (not that the mega was that much better), Camera quality isn't as good as my mega imo, sound is lower (that my mega) I'm assuming because of the waterproofing, and kinda a fingerprint magnet. Other than that no complaints.
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Normally 18 months?. I would think the GPe will get L before the Sony ZU. it was months before we got 4.4, although we did get 4.4.4 very fast
Just bought a second hand for AU$300. This shady guy sold me one with overheat issue. The phone isn't even very hot but it just freezes on me and stuck in boot loop.
BOOT LOOPS, My Favorite Breakfast Cereal!
The reason may well be because of the fact the BEAST is having one of America's favorite breakfast cereals...Boot Loops! After several minutes of this heat is generated in the upper left corner around the camera area. Liken it to running around a track numerous times - it takes a toll on it/you physically.
I've read it on one of the threads several times over the months just after the XZU became available as a GPe. Many new users were trying to root, flash ROM's, and fix the partitions since they're different on the GPe's and their devices suffered the boot loops too.
Download Flashtool, run a TA Backup and then flash a stock .ftf if that's what your looking to do. Providing this device is not HOT. Why would one sell a BEAST of a device with a bad case of the boot loops to begin with? Better yet why on earth would you buy one in that condition? All kinds of flags would've/should've been raised - didn't you even question how it got that way or why it was in that state to begin with?
They have these bad boys are selling for $314.99 at http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/ in the United States. Expansys sells internationally direct from the comfort of your own safe and legal hideout. THAT would've been a more prudent thing to do AND you would've gotten a warranty on top of it!
Just sayin'
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Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
Same boat as you. Last sony I had was the standard Sony X10. It was awful. Hated every minute of it. Was not as bad as my nokia 5800 I owned before it though.
Phones since then have been the galaxy S2, galaxy S3, now the LG G2 (best phone so far), and now pre ordered the X2. It looks amazing, and am very excited about it. Might not have it long as im planning (stupidly maybe) to take it to my 3yr old sons swimming lessons and get some underwater video footage of him as he loves swimming underwater! Think the slow motion feature will look amazing. So hoping Sony really is true to their word on it being waterproof
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Good to know, haha. I'm not really into throwing 100's of euros worth of smartphones into the wall though. Being unemployed really makes you contain your anger and focus it on something else, lol. :silly:
Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, if I will not have Z1 I will go for it too.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I find the Z2 beautiful as well!
LG? Hah. I have no love for LG. They have pretty much always messed upp software wise. Just look at the kitkat update for the G2...
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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I stand corrected
Yeah the battery is important nevertheless
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Don't worry Guys, the battery of Z2 is just massive, I got a hell of day with Z1 and I cannot complain, with Z2 it will be even better.
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Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
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yeah there was few problem on xperia z, z1 but it doesn't mean no can trust giant tech manufacture; SONY
But u should w8 for reviews & also users feedback
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it s available in East Asia anyone have it?
So I am waiting for the Galaxy Note 4 next week Spt 3, and released specs and everything look good, but what turns me off from the phone is the rather small display. I mean 5.7inch is stupid I think, they could have at least made it a 6" as I was hoping for.
The Xperia Z Ultra has a 6.4" display and the specs are still good, only came out last year. I am a very lite user, I don't play games or use many Apps, just mainly for phone and texting.
What do you guys think, I can get it for $370 CAD no tax or shipping from U.S via eBay brand new unlocked, is it a good phone? Or am I making a mistake not getting the Note 4 and going for a slightly older phone?
I would really appreciate any feedback you can provide, thanks!
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So I am waiting for the Galaxy Note 4 next week Spt 3, and released specs and everything look good, but what turns me off from the phone is the rather small display. I mean 5.7inch is stupid I think, they could have at least made it a 6" as I was hoping for.
The Xperia Z Ultra has a 6.4" display and the specs are still good, only came out last year. I am a very lite user, I don't play games or use many Apps, just mainly for phone and texting.
What do you guys think, I can get it for $370 CAD no tax or shipping from U.S via eBay brand new unlocked, is it a good phone? Or am I making a mistake not getting the Note 4 and going for a slightly older phone?
I would really appreciate any feedback you can provide, thanks!
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I would go with the Ultra (only as the wife has a S4 and I hate it). As you say the specs are still good, and Sony's software is fast with not too much bloat. Also note that it is easy to root and flash custom ROMs to - although some people seem to have real trouble
Z Ultra from me, the best value for money smartphone now:good:
I've owned the Note II and perhaps less relevant the Galaxy Nexus, but I can say the Z Ultra, after being quite wary regarding Sony, is the best smart phone I have owned. It's big and beautiful and has an understated, yet classy look. It's super thin and shines on both the hard- and software side. Samsung is a step down, with its ugly and tacky plastics, let alone the horrible Touchwiz. The ZU is still a beast with the SD 800 cpu and destroys everything on its path. Take the plunge, you won't regret, possibly for years to come, if you wanted to.
Signed: an ex-Samsung believer
I'm using a note 3 now and am planning to shift to an xperia z ultra because I'm looking for stock android. For conversion to gpe and back, which model version should I buy? Lte or non lte?
How is the speaker quality of the device? All the reviews indicate it as soft. Is battery life better on the gpe?
No camera flash for z ultra was a deal breaker.
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No camera flash for z ultra was a deal breaker.
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I dont see it as a dealbreaker. Sure i cant look at some pipes in the dark, which i had to do quite few times past 6 months, but as a device its quite ok without the flash. Mayby its also, cause i see camera as least important functionality in a phone, but let that be another discussion.
As for the general question, I think Note 4 will be preferred choice, I love my Ultra, seriously best phone in the market at the very moment imo. But thats the thing, Note 4 is generation up and thats a big thing. Another aspect that really speaks for samsung is that they actually put some thought - why do we go for such a big screen on this bloody thing, which i feel is lacking on Ultra.
I was between note and Ultra when note 3 launched, but the overall feel and my emotion was better on Sony, tho note came close with its trough thought phablet feel.
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I dont see it as a dealbreaker. Sure i cant look at some pipes in the dark, which i had to do quite few times past 6 months, but as a device its quite ok without the flash. Mayby its also, cause i see camera as least important functionality in a phone, but let that be another discussion.
As for the general question, I think Note 4 will be preferred choice, I love my Ultra, seriously best phone in the market at the very moment imo. But thats the thing, Note 4 is generation up and thats a big thing. Another aspect that really speaks for samsung is that they actually put some thought - why do we go for such a big screen on this bloody thing, which i feel is lacking on Ultra.
I was between note and Ultra when note 3 launched, but the overall feel and my emotion was better on Sony, tho note came close with its trough thought phablet feel.
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If the Z ultra provided any Spen functionality OR a camera flash I would have gotten it. To me that was two points. But everyone has different needs I can easily see why Zultra was a superb choice.
I would consider the new Z3 Tablet Compact if the size is deemed acceptable. Even if I had the Note I and II, I would not another device in that series mostly because of all restrictions Samsung has put up such as efuse, limitations on "right" and "wrong" flashing of stock ROM (i.e. efuse goes off if you downgrade through Odin etc not to mention custom ROMs), unstandardized hardware (different CPU/GPU depending on market), carrier branding (unlocked devices not available unless importing), region lock and so forth. TouchWiz is also a complete dealbreaker in those L times.
The S-Pen is a great concept, though but is so linked to TouchWiz that most of the features are lost if a AOSP/CM is flashed. Because of all those items on the list, I avoid their devices as a plague. It doesn't matter what features they include in their TW ROMs since I consider TW just horrible.
I consider the Ultra to be a great device still and in most cases preferable over Samsung products but it has been in the market for one year now. On the other hand: it is still unsurpassed as a complete package when it comes to screen size and so forth.
It is also worth to mention that the Note series use 480 DPI phone mode so arguments like "it use the big screen better" is not valid. The Ultra runs 240 DPI phablet mode well with the GPE ROM and multi window etc is easily fixed through Xposed Framework.
I dare to say that the Ultra + 240 DPI + GPE ROM + Xposed Framework blows the competition out of the water software wise. The only competitors with a similar experience is the Nexus line or OnePlus One with CM11S.
My personal planning for the future is:
1. Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
2. 7 inch AOSP/CM phablets from other manufacturers
Since number 2 is very uncertain considering the lack of rumors about such devices, I am leaning heavily toward the alternative 1 since I made a mockup and deemed it acceptable from a carrying point of view.
If the Tablet Z3 Compact is considered too big, I don't see any better options than the Ultra at the moment. It still rules unsurpassed when it comes to large-screen tablet replacements.
Whatever you do, just stay the hell away from Samsung. Between the fugly TouchWiz, bloated software, KNOX warranty void, slow updates, I promise to myself I will never ever buy another Samsung device. Sure, flashing CM11 would fix all that problems, but you might as well just buy a Nexus 5 at that point as all the special features that make a Note device a Note device are gone.
Also, Samsung Note devices are not very mod/hack-friendly due to their proprietary S-Pen and digitizer driver, as well as numerous in-house parts that we just can't get the drivers for. A year later and we still can't get the NFC working correctly on the Note 3.
The Day Samsung Makes Note 4 with a 6.4 Inch HD Screen
The only day I will think of buying a Note 4 is when it is able to have the form Factor of a Z Ultra... No Phone with this config comes with this Form factor... Just love it!!
Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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If you want to run different ROMs - get the international version. The GPe 4.4.4 and Lollipop is already ported so they are available.
The problem with the GPe is that it uses a different partition scheme making it unable to use ROMs for the rest of the crowd (C6802/6806-nonGPe/6833). I would therefore recommend a C6806 or C6833 depending on what bands (LTE) you want and need.
Because of the superior selection of ROMs including GPe, I would simply go for a C6833 unless you are absolutely sure that everything else than the GPe ROM is of no interest.
With the "Sony Edition" (C6833 et al) you have great options: Sony ROMs, GPe or AOSP/CM based ones in different flavors. I think this selection is reason enough to go for the Xperia rather than the GPe.
Leechoonhwee said:
Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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As they are in Italy I would not recommend the c6806 in either the Sony version or the GPe, get the c6833 (international). Sony's UI is very 'stock' android with very little bloat and packaged apps. As for battery life, expect 4 to 8 hours of screen on time depending on what you are doing. My GPe version on Lollipop has 5 days uptime, ~20% battery used and it says 13 days remaining on standby with the wifi on - no real use this week as I'm using my other phone.
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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Just looking at your sig, I think we could be the same boat.
I had 4 years all with HTC phones ( HD2, Ruby, One) and I recently made a first move to Sony phone, this Z Ultra C6833 and have no regret, even one bit. I personally think Sony phone has great battery, very responsive touchscreen, premium quality hardware built etc...which on par with HTC at least, or better.
Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets. I didn't think about buying one, until I had one in my hands to try, and I was sold in 3 minutes. With the heavy dropped price on this Z Ultra these days, it's a steal, you'll be more than happy.
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Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets.
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
Here in italy its not as highly regarded as samsung or LG neither is HTC but i look at specs affidability and price over the usual consumer jargon.. im sure ill be pleased with this device!!!
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
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I agree that Sony is still a big name of the game, what I mean was Sony deserves more than that. It could be one of top 3 players. Here in Canada Sony doesn't seem to do much comparing to other brands name. I wished I'd knew how good Sony phones was sooner. It's great to know that Sony phones are doing well in other countries.
I dont know if there is amazon in italy, but I bought mine for €260.- on amazon.
The alternative was the LG G2 for €300.-
If you really like to use big phones, go for it. I actually wanted a big phone and really like sony Z line design of phones, not to mention the extremely appealing price. Snapdragon 800 and a huge phone for €260? It was a no brainer for me.
Not to mention the advantage of having a GPe Version, portable lolipop roms. Just in case you miss it, this phone has an IPS display, unlike the Z and Z1 of sony.
There are complaints though, so for those, you can find enough information. Personally, I am very satisfied.
just as an update i ordered the C6833 variant just now at 239 euro (im still rubbing my hands like monty burns!!) thanks to all for your input!!!
i'll look forward to sharing the z ultra sub section with you guys!!
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
asadkhanduhh said:
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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And getting ready for Z4 Ultra production. Yay!
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I haven't seen it for sale here in the US lately, as it was on sale here for Christmas ? .
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
A definite buy
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
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I have recently purchased Z Ultra after having a lot of comparison with other devices and I have no regret that I have bought this device. The price was a major factor.
The screen size is something It would take time for to adjust with(First time using a phone with such a form factor, all previous devices were around 4.5 inches)
The phone is butter smooth and no lag at all. Battery lasts around 2-2.5 days with moderate usage(Have stamina mode ON for the full time).
I will surely recommend to get a ZU.
Just got mine
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
Thanks so that should be my next device, I have been waiting for a pass for One Plus, actualy was the very first one to get it when it was launched in India but didnt have the money to buy it now I tired waiting endlessly for it and have decided to go for ZU
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As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
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anyone else looked at this phone? seems like a decent replacement and not too small.
if not, what else are people moving onto?
given up on sony releasing
I'm just looking at nexus, blackberry if the rumors is true that they will move on to android, or the classic HTC.
HTC is probably the manufacturer you can't go wrong with. If you look at this part of the XDA forum..its filled with devs making roms and kernels.
I think s810 is just temporarily. Maybe next year there will be a new series of soc that won't overheat as this years release.
Its just the same as with the tegra 3. You could fry eggs on it. But HTC moved on and improved their devices. And I hope they will release another beast in the near future.
Huawei is enlarging their market on mobile devices but I think its to early to invest in one of those devices. I want there to be devs who makes roms so I don't have to rely only on the stock rom/firmware to work when something goes wrong. If that ever happens...who knows.
Samsung is a no go. They don't exist in my world. Last and only device I owned was the SII Exynos 4210. They make good electronics elsewhere but not mobile devices.
LG is also a no go. Only nexus. To much plastic, big LG logo and weird cheap looking software interface on stock rom. Reminds me of MIUI and Huawei.
SONY is moving from europe home to japan. Okay...weird. So then I just won't buy your stuff then. Bye..I will never buy a sony mobile device again.
When "I" am buying a device. I am only buying the flagships. Because I am looking for an investment that will last for many years and won't seem slow even after four years compared to newer devices. And also the general lifetime of the device. I want there to be devs here on the forum that I can rely on after device has reached the end-of-lifetime.
The Z ultra is a bit special. It has the same hardware specs as its brother Z1....so for performance I would still call this a kind of side show flagship despite the low spec camera.
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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I don't have any experience of motorola exept for the old classic pagers and radios. I've never seen a moto x in real life so I don't really have any opinion. Its offered at a good price yes! but yeah I really dunno. The only con I can see is the tiny battery at 2300mAh.
From what I can see its almost like some mix to a budget nexus device..almost stock rom and no bloat apps. :good:
Me myself is waiting to see what google has to offer. There is already a bunch of pics of the new nexus devices but I'm curiously waiting for the release event
3000 for the style no?
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3000 for the style no?
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oops ....I probably looked at the older model. You're right its 3000mAh!
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_style-7229.php
Then it looks alright!
gave me a scare there for a sec
As the title mentions rumors about the succesor for our ultra. I'm really anticipating on a succesor, i use my ultra now for 2 years. At this moment there is for me still no proper replacement on the market. If the rumors are true, i've found mine replacement
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/83269/20150910/sony-xperia-z5-ultra-with-snapdragon-820-chip-4k-display-23mp-camera-coming-march-2016.htm
Didn't read anything yet about a flash, but i can't imagine that they make such a monumental mistake again.
i can wait all day till they release Z5 ultra
I also have had this phone for 2 years now, and before that I use to upgrade my phones every 6-9months.. now I can't get over this phone
Article's description is too good to be true... The specs are awesome... Lets pray they release the real successor for our device!
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Rumour like this have been spread all over the years since the Ultra came out. Most of em are click baits for more traffic to their websites or some people's imagination to 'satisfy' themselves since it is likely that the Ultra is Sony's first and last attempt of making a true phablet.
I personally think we won't see another 6.4 inch until the stylus game is making a comeback.
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corrado85 said:
i can wait all day till they release Z5 ultra
I also have had this phone for 2 years now, and before that I use to upgrade my phones every 6-9months.. now I can't get over this phone [emoji14]
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That's EXACTLY what I'm experiencing.
Galaxy S6, Note 5, Nexus 6, LG G4, Z5, HTC ONE, all fantastic performers, but....... Not a single one could convince me to leave the Ultra.
I've actually been tempted to buy another one just in case... [emoji16]
I desperately hope that Sony will not leave us hanging longer, 2.5 years are enough.
And as I said before, the Ultra was presented as a TOP performer, first with SD800, and reviewed by all as a beast, as a nerd wet dream, regardless of the flaws (big, awful camera, no flash etc).
They couldn't present it now with the SD810, it wasn't "one of a kind".
I just hope they're waiting the new processor and MWC to unveil the next gen of this beast.
I'm currently rocking a GPe based rom (Hybrid by Uncle Lucifer), and NOTHING is smoother.
Just imagine what could possibly be with SD820 and 4GB ram... [emoji33]
I personally don't care about the camera. If it's there, good, if it's a 13mpx, well that's enough for me.
I want a powerful device with a superb screen, and if they can make it smaller with the same 6.44 screen, good, if they can't and it's thicker with more battery, good, if they can't do that either and make it exactly the same phone with upgraded internals, I'm good with that too. [emoji16]
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That's EXACTLY what I'm experiencing.
Galaxy S6, Note 5, Nexus 6, LG G4, Z5, HTC ONE, all fantastic performers, but....... Not a single one could convince me to leave the Ultra.
I've actually been tempted to buy another one just in case... [emoji16]
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You just described my thought process :laugh: I've read all the reviews, and always come to the same conclusion. All the devices feel as i have to make to many compromises. And also i was thinking to buy a second one in case of something worse happened with the one i'm using.
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You just described my thought process [emoji23] I've read all the reviews, and always come to the same conclusion. All the devices feel as i have to make to many compromises. And also i was thinking to buy a second one in case of something worse happened with the one i'm using.
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I remember everybody going on laughing at how big of a phone it is, I can't even begin to describe the mockery at work once I got it; then everybody tried it, and their freaking mouths went shut, and then open wide at how beautiful of a device it is.
It's big, yeah we get it, but it's slim, elegant, it makes you go "wow" once you play with it and also go "meh" every time you try something else.
I get that people want 5.5 screens, no bezels, something you can use with one hand, cameras that can spot an hair on a fly at 5 meters away, but those guys are not me.
SD820 might be the way for Sony to show once again they can pull off a trick with a device so powerful and so beautiful that you can't even begin to think to go somewhere else.
No matter what other OEMs have to offer.
No matter what other people say.
They should have a survey on Ultra owners, I bet that 90% of us would never change OEM if Sony guarantees a new Ultra every 2 years.
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