Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
zubeedubs said:
Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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If you want to run different ROMs - get the international version. The GPe 4.4.4 and Lollipop is already ported so they are available.
The problem with the GPe is that it uses a different partition scheme making it unable to use ROMs for the rest of the crowd (C6802/6806-nonGPe/6833). I would therefore recommend a C6806 or C6833 depending on what bands (LTE) you want and need.
Because of the superior selection of ROMs including GPe, I would simply go for a C6833 unless you are absolutely sure that everything else than the GPe ROM is of no interest.
With the "Sony Edition" (C6833 et al) you have great options: Sony ROMs, GPe or AOSP/CM based ones in different flavors. I think this selection is reason enough to go for the Xperia rather than the GPe.
Leechoonhwee said:
Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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As they are in Italy I would not recommend the c6806 in either the Sony version or the GPe, get the c6833 (international). Sony's UI is very 'stock' android with very little bloat and packaged apps. As for battery life, expect 4 to 8 hours of screen on time depending on what you are doing. My GPe version on Lollipop has 5 days uptime, ~20% battery used and it says 13 days remaining on standby with the wifi on - no real use this week as I'm using my other phone.
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
zubeedubs said:
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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Just looking at your sig, I think we could be the same boat.
I had 4 years all with HTC phones ( HD2, Ruby, One) and I recently made a first move to Sony phone, this Z Ultra C6833 and have no regret, even one bit. I personally think Sony phone has great battery, very responsive touchscreen, premium quality hardware built etc...which on par with HTC at least, or better.
Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets. I didn't think about buying one, until I had one in my hands to try, and I was sold in 3 minutes. With the heavy dropped price on this Z Ultra these days, it's a steal, you'll be more than happy.
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Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets.
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
Here in italy its not as highly regarded as samsung or LG neither is HTC but i look at specs affidability and price over the usual consumer jargon.. im sure ill be pleased with this device!!!
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
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I agree that Sony is still a big name of the game, what I mean was Sony deserves more than that. It could be one of top 3 players. Here in Canada Sony doesn't seem to do much comparing to other brands name. I wished I'd knew how good Sony phones was sooner. It's great to know that Sony phones are doing well in other countries.
I dont know if there is amazon in italy, but I bought mine for €260.- on amazon.
The alternative was the LG G2 for €300.-
If you really like to use big phones, go for it. I actually wanted a big phone and really like sony Z line design of phones, not to mention the extremely appealing price. Snapdragon 800 and a huge phone for €260? It was a no brainer for me.
Not to mention the advantage of having a GPe Version, portable lolipop roms. Just in case you miss it, this phone has an IPS display, unlike the Z and Z1 of sony.
There are complaints though, so for those, you can find enough information. Personally, I am very satisfied.
just as an update i ordered the C6833 variant just now at 239 euro (im still rubbing my hands like monty burns!!) thanks to all for your input!!!
i'll look forward to sharing the z ultra sub section with you guys!!
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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And getting ready for Z4 Ultra production. Yay!
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I haven't seen it for sale here in the US lately, as it was on sale here for Christmas ? .
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
A definite buy
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
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I have recently purchased Z Ultra after having a lot of comparison with other devices and I have no regret that I have bought this device. The price was a major factor.
The screen size is something It would take time for to adjust with(First time using a phone with such a form factor, all previous devices were around 4.5 inches)
The phone is butter smooth and no lag at all. Battery lasts around 2-2.5 days with moderate usage(Have stamina mode ON for the full time).
I will surely recommend to get a ZU.
Just got mine
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
Thanks so that should be my next device, I have been waiting for a pass for One Plus, actualy was the very first one to get it when it was launched in India but didnt have the money to buy it now I tired waiting endlessly for it and have decided to go for ZU
JackD3ath said:
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
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Hello
I lost my ultra few weeks back! tried tracing and all no luck. Now back to business of buying a new phone.
1. I am still bent towards Ultra (6833) - question is what and how long is the future for it in terms of support / firmwares etc.
2. I dont see a comparable newer devices which I can opt - I like xperia z ultra pretty much and inclined on it having used it of more than 6 months. - Z2 etc I have seen, but screen size andworkable area that impresses me
what other devices are possible better - pls dont push me for HTC or Sammy :laugh:
thx
ram
rb69 said:
Hello
I lost my ultra few weeks back! tried tracing and all no luck. Now back to business of buying a new phone.
1. I am still bent towards Ultra (6833) - question is what and how long is the future for it in terms of support / firmwares etc.
2. I dont see a comparable newer devices which I can opt - I like xperia z ultra pretty much and inclined on it having used it of more than 6 months. - Z2 etc I have seen, but screen size andworkable area that impresses me
what other devices are possible better - pls dont push me for HTC or Sammy :laugh:
thx
ram
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If updates is important and you love the ultra, check out the GPE edition. I'd say sony version will have support until Sept 2015.
If you're looking for something updated with a big screen there are lots on the horizon...
Huawei MediaPad X1
Huawei MediaPad X1 is the lightest...awei-mediapad-x1-phablet via Engadget Android
Nexus 6 is being released soon, produced by lenovo.
Lumia 1520 if you fancy a change from android.
Loads of Chinese newcomers from Huawei, Oppo and others.
The blackphone looks promising also if you're interested in security.
...to name a few.
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If updates is important and you love the ultra, check out the GPE edition. I'd say sony version will have support until Sept 2015.
If you're looking for something updated with a big screen there are lots on the horizon...
Huawei MediaPad X1
Huawei MediaPad X1 is the lightest...awei-mediapad-x1-phablet via Engadget Android
Nexus 6 is being released soon, produced by lenovo.
Lumia 1520 if you fancy a change from android.
Loads of Chinese newcomers from Huawei, Oppo and others.
The blackphone looks promising also if you're interested in security.
...to name a few.
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Lumina had a look - a bit heavy, no option for screen mirroring - its pretty much useful a useful feature for playing media. No inclination to Huwaei - never really liked them yet :angel:
Screen size and display resolution is one aspect I am looking for - but not a firmware upgrade which I would love to have but low priority.
4.4 will do well for a year as any newer upgrades will take looking at current trends at least 9 months.
7" + sizes a for sure no-no for me. Didnt see Nexus 6 specs yet since its going to be launched later this year - Aug / Sep
6806 or 6833 - I dont see a real diff except GPE - Sony stock works fine for me, no complaints. just need LTE..
You can get the Nokia X, laugh about it for about 4 months, throw it into a river and get the Ultra 2
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You can get the Nokia X, laugh about it for about 4 months, throw it into a river and get the Ultra 2
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Not so sure yet of ultra 2 :good: since still it is in rumor mill. Rather spend $$ on Nok x, would prefer to grab a something good and move on
was just wondering if any other devices are in line in coming weeks rather months. MWC didn't give any hopes
before getting Ultra this weekend, was wondering about any closer devices.
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Not so sure yet of ultra 2 :good: since still it is in rumor mill. Rather spend $$ on Nok x, would prefer to grab a something good and move on
was just wondering if any other devices are in line in coming weeks rather months. MWC didn't give any hopes
before getting Ultra this weekend, was wondering about any closer devices.
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Hmm, the new HTC One is coming this month, but we've all seen it already and I'm personally not impressed by its design, but that's just me.
- Samsung released the S5 and that about it really. They have the Mega which they'll probably update soon, but it will still be a mod-range device.
- HTC is going to release the new One and Desire etc. No idea if they'll update the Max.
- LG released that.. phablet thing last week? Or? I'm not sure.
- Motorola has the G and X. No phablets.
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Now that I see the Huawei MediaPad X1. being that I love big phones/tablet = phablets i'm wondering if there will be any support so that we can root it and all the good stuff that can be done with the ultra. specially xposed modules and other hacks I would buy it.
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Now that I see the Huawei MediaPad X1. being that I love big phones/tablet = phablets i'm wondering if there will be any support so that we can root it and all the good stuff that can be done with the ultra. specially xposed modules and other hacks I would buy it.
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You'll have to wait and see. Don't buy it the day it comes out, but wait for a month or something so you can see if there is any dev activity around it.
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You'll have to wait and see. Don't buy it the day it comes out, but wait for a month or something so you can see if there is any dev activity around it.
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there was around one of their older 7" phablets, so there is hope.
jaime4272 said:
Now that I see the Huawei MediaPad X1. being that I love big phones/tablet = phablets i'm wondering if there will be any support so that we can root it and all the good stuff that can be done with the ultra. specially xposed modules and other hacks I would buy it.
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Does look ridiculous doesn't it, I think 7 inch is a good size :sly:
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I would not trade the quality of builds and materials of Sony phones/phablets with those of Huawei's... I think that in terms of these Sony is the top brand nowadays, like HTC was until a few years ago. Asus is also good imho, Samsung is far beyond and I never really liked LG products.
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I agree that sony and the ultra have a better quality but i can't deny that this phablet screen is good looking with the same resolution as the ultra and much bigger careen and I like big phones. I love my ultra because of the screen I have it since it came out but if there is a bigger one... I don't know ????
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I agree that sony and the ultra have a better quality but i can't deny that this phablet screen is good looking with the same resolution as the ultra and much bigger careen and I like big phones. I love my ultra because of the screen I have it since it came out but if there is a bigger one... I don't know ????
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today went around shopping - well didn't buy one yet ! believe me - didn't like any of the models out there, well S5 Z2 etc are yet to be out.
as you said, true the screen size is just perfect at present for usage - neither too big nor too small and the reason I am trying to stick to it.
will do a round of window shopping for another day or two and will get one - right now top of list 6833 or 6806. Nothing else :laugh: well I see a price break of close to $100 currently on ultras.
7" tabs are OK but not for regular use outside. have got sammy Tab Plus for 2 years now and got 4.4 - works like a charm. LG curve didn't like it.
Let me tell you something....I left Z Ultra forum long time ago. Change many phones....sold my last one which is LG G Flex (I bought it for $1100 from Korea)
and I come back to Z Ultra.
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Let me tell you something....I left Z Ultra forum long time ago. Change many phones....sold my last one which is LG G Flex (I bought it for $1100 from Korea)
and I come back to Z Ultra.
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Good one! cant agree more... but still I am a step back though I may 99.9% would go for it
avetny said:
Let me tell you something....I left Z Ultra forum long time ago. Change many phones....sold my last one which is LG G Flex (I bought it for $1100 from Korea)
and I come back to Z Ultra.
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What can I say. You ditched the Ultra for a plastic LG phone
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LordManhattan said:
What can I say. You ditched the Ultra for a plastic LG phone
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Absolute heresy. Burn him, burn him!
Screw it and buy my ultra problem solved lol
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mistamikel said:
Screw it and buy my ultra problem solved lol
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:good: gave up search.
will be getting one tomorrow or day after for sure Ultra. looking for 6806 or 6833, not finding in stores here. may pick one up on transit.
Lol.. this thread literally sums up my day
Received brand new 6833 after returning my damaged 6802 on warranty. Decided I could sell it unopened and buy myself something new.
Considered the options (much the same as those suggested here) and decided very best option is to unbox the new Sony beast sitting in front of me
(True story... )
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Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
Same boat as you. Last sony I had was the standard Sony X10. It was awful. Hated every minute of it. Was not as bad as my nokia 5800 I owned before it though.
Phones since then have been the galaxy S2, galaxy S3, now the LG G2 (best phone so far), and now pre ordered the X2. It looks amazing, and am very excited about it. Might not have it long as im planning (stupidly maybe) to take it to my 3yr old sons swimming lessons and get some underwater video footage of him as he loves swimming underwater! Think the slow motion feature will look amazing. So hoping Sony really is true to their word on it being waterproof
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Good to know, haha. I'm not really into throwing 100's of euros worth of smartphones into the wall though. Being unemployed really makes you contain your anger and focus it on something else, lol. :silly:
Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, if I will not have Z1 I will go for it too.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I find the Z2 beautiful as well!
LG? Hah. I have no love for LG. They have pretty much always messed upp software wise. Just look at the kitkat update for the G2...
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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I stand corrected
Yeah the battery is important nevertheless
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Don't worry Guys, the battery of Z2 is just massive, I got a hell of day with Z1 and I cannot complain, with Z2 it will be even better.
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Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
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yeah there was few problem on xperia z, z1 but it doesn't mean no can trust giant tech manufacture; SONY
But u should w8 for reviews & also users feedback
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it s available in East Asia anyone have it?
I currently rock an LG G3 and while I love the screen and phone model, I can't stand the software at all, it is laggy and horrible, I've compared it to a Z Ultra via youtube video and I'm loving the look of the phone already!
Z Ultra's are currently retailing for £250 brand new and I'm ready to purchase, but a genuine question, what are the massive cons of owning the phone and is it still worth it at this price?
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I currently rock an LG G3 and while I love the screen and phone model, I can't stand the software at all, it is laggy and horrible, I've compared it to a Z Ultra via youtube video and I'm loving the look of the phone already!
Z Ultra's are currently retailing for £250 brand new and I'm ready to purchase, but a genuine question, what are the massive cons of owning the phone and is it still worth it at this price?
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First it is smoothest device i tried...
Cons:
As you said it is MASSIVE
Staying on stock Xperia ROM there is poor (none for 4.4.4) custom kernel choice
Did I said MASSIVE :silly:
Rest you can tell from specs
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I currently rock an LG G3 and while I love the screen and phone model, I can't stand the software at all, it is laggy and horrible, I've compared it to a Z Ultra via youtube video and I'm loving the look of the phone already!
Z Ultra's are currently retailing for £250 brand new and I'm ready to purchase, but a genuine question, what are the massive cons of owning the phone and is it still worth it at this price?
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I'm surprised the G3 is laggy, but it may be to do with the high res screen.
The Z ultra is definitely not laggy, and is the best phone i've owned. I came from an LG phone (Optimus 4X HD) and hated LG's skinning of Android. Sony's efforts are far more impressive and although I've tried the GPE Rom (Stock Android) I came back to Sony's firmware within a day.
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I'm surprised the G3 is laggy, but it may be to do with the high res screen.
The Z ultra is definitely not laggy, and is the best phone i've owned. I came from an LG phone (Optimus 4X HD) and hated LG's skinning of Android. Sony's efforts are far more impressive and although I've tried the GPE Rom (Stock Android) I came back to Sony's firmware within a day.
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Lets just say, the Galaxy S4 was smoother than my G3, I had to do A LOT of tweeking to get the G3 to be usable. Thanks for the replies, I've gone ahead and ordered one (White version at £216 brand new) and can't wait to get it
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Lets just say, the Galaxy S4 was smoother than my G3, I had to do A LOT of tweeking to get the G3 to be usable. Thanks for the replies, I've gone ahead and ordered one (White version at £216 brand new) and can't wait to get it
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Do you mind telling me where you got it at that price? Everywhere seems to be around £245.
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Do you mind telling me where you got it at that price? Everywhere seems to be around £245.
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I find it mental that you can even get this phone for £245!
It's definitely the best value for money phone out there at the moment that you can buy without an invite.
Been there, saw all phones, and got the ultra!
GET THE ULTRA TO ROCK ON!
very, very worth for me, as of now cant see any competitor to our XZU, 6.4" screen, thin, metal & glass :good::good:
Where are you guys finding it for so cheap?
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I bought my original Z Ultra for £549 at the beginning of last year and I loved the phone back then paired with the Smartwatch 2. I sold it back then but have just bought another brand new black one for £250, I use this as a tablet rather than a phone, I don't have the Smartwatch 2 this time.
I must admit that having been through a few phones since I sold it I'm a little disappointed with the KitKat firmware on my new Z Ultra, the display feels a little dim at 100% brightness but overall I think it's amazing value for money and great for watching Sky Go. I just love the sheer size of the phone but it does require a huge pocket to carry it around in.
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...the display feels a little dim at 100% brightness but overall I think it's amazing value for money...
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There are atleast 2 different LCD panels that have been used. One has better contrast.
I just got the phone from amazon and I got it cheap from warehouse deals. First impressions, amaizing....
It was the cheapest most powerful device I found. I bought it for 250€ Not bad, considering what it offers
Its size isnt bothering me, I fear for the possibility of it breaking,
I've truly been debating about buying this, Z Ultra GPE, since it came out. Now that it can be purchased on the cheap it's making it harder not to. My main concern is; Android L? Will Google and Sony make the update available for the Z Ultra? I have a Nexus 5 (nothing wrong with it) but I've always wanted a phablet.Then again the next Nexus could be either 5.2-.9 inches so that could ease my phablet want... IDK, what do yous peoples thinks?
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There are atleast 2 different LCD panels that have been used. One has better contrast.
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On what do you base this ? (references, links, bill of materials list ?)
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On what do you base this ? (references, links, bill of materials list ?)
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There are a few threads on this:
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2 (pages 6 and 7)
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Among people who have seen both, it seems contentious which of the two is found to be the best, so I say, be happy with whichever you get. :good:
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On what do you base this ? (references, links, bill of materials list ?)
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grep of LCD during boot - I don't just spout random crap
do a search on here there is a thread
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I don't just spout random crap
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Never said that you did, just asking for some facts.
(Example: Specific part numbers indicating that 2 different screens have been used)
Go check up huawei mate 2
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Z Ultra or One Max
I want to buy a New phablet
Which is Better Guys
the Z Ultra ( Snapdragon 800 Processor, and a Camera with no Flash)
or the One Max ... ( Snapdragon 600 Processor , and a camera with a flash)
Please Help
I really want the Z Ultra but the TFT screen and the No Flash is letting me down
is it worth buying now or Not
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I want to buy a New phablet
Which is Better Guys
the Z Ultra ( Snapdragon 800 Processor, and a Camera with no Flash)
or the One Max ... ( Snapdragon 600 Processor , and a camera with a flash)
Please Help
I really want the Z Ultra but the TFT screen and the No Flash is letting me down
is it worth buying now or Not
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I'd say the Z Ultra, excellent build quality and a better processor not to mention these days they go for real cheap.
Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as the Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes the price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with just AUD350 the phone has become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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I'm thinking the same as yourself, as it is becoming more affordable here in the US as well.
Seen it as inexpensive as $250, either new or gently used.
Only negative is no LED for flash, which means no light for emergency use.
I'm looking for an inexpensive LTE mobile phone, this MIGHT BE IT.
Another negative; no removable battery.
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If you have no real use for a camera, then yes this phone is still a beast.
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”screen flashlight ” in the Google play store works pretty well on our Z ultra.
I've had mine for about a year now, and it's still a very powerful device. You won't have any issues with running apps and games. Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
Screen is still very good, battery life is (still) good, camera is not great, and performance is top notch. It was worth it to me when I paid $1000 for it a year ago, and it's definitely worth it now.
Check out the reviews and stuff on YouTube or something if you're still not sure.
I was afraid at first i thought it will be too big. But now i can imagine myself having smaller Screen even samsung Note seems small now, Too small.
As it has been said, if don't care for the Camera much Z Ultra is the Best.
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Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is now over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes it to price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with AUD350 the phone has just become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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Depends on how you look at it. If performance is the metric, you won't be disappointed. if you use camera extensively, well look elsewhere. and the last one, the battery life. It's quite good but if you compare with devices nowadays, there are better alternative. I'd say wait for the Z3X (if ever) in about a month. If it doesn't come up, then i can imagine the Z Ultra will be cheaper along the way.
Thank you all for your inputs!
I personally do not use mobile cameras for artistic purposes. I already have a Dslr so the camera is only for note-taking or public transport schedule. I think I just want a phone that is slightly faster than my HTC M7. It's true that there are better performers out there since this is a year old phone but any faster CPU than a Z Ultra has little to do with my uses.
Also there isn't a mobile phone at the moment that is as massive as this. I love the idea that I could read books with it in my bed. The Galaxy Note Pro is too heavy to hold in the hand for a long period of time.
The only bummer is the speaker. I have been spoiled by the M7's speakers for a year plus, very little devices top its superb sound quality. It will be the only downgrade for me should I go for this phone.
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Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
18 months supposedly. The Z Ultra should receive L, but the Z3 and Z2 should get it first. I would guess at least a few months or more after L is released.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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E90 Commie said:
I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
However Ultra hasn't been selling as well as they'd like they have probably even given up on releasing a successor.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
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Im sure it will get L, but I personally don't think we should expect more.
Recently, got a Z Ultra (from a Mega 6.3). Don't regret it for the most part. Screen isn't the brightest in direct sunlight (not that the mega was that much better), Camera quality isn't as good as my mega imo, sound is lower (that my mega) I'm assuming because of the waterproofing, and kinda a fingerprint magnet. Other than that no complaints.
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Normally 18 months?. I would think the GPe will get L before the Sony ZU. it was months before we got 4.4, although we did get 4.4.4 very fast
Just bought a second hand for AU$300. This shady guy sold me one with overheat issue. The phone isn't even very hot but it just freezes on me and stuck in boot loop.
BOOT LOOPS, My Favorite Breakfast Cereal!
The reason may well be because of the fact the BEAST is having one of America's favorite breakfast cereals...Boot Loops! After several minutes of this heat is generated in the upper left corner around the camera area. Liken it to running around a track numerous times - it takes a toll on it/you physically.
I've read it on one of the threads several times over the months just after the XZU became available as a GPe. Many new users were trying to root, flash ROM's, and fix the partitions since they're different on the GPe's and their devices suffered the boot loops too.
Download Flashtool, run a TA Backup and then flash a stock .ftf if that's what your looking to do. Providing this device is not HOT. Why would one sell a BEAST of a device with a bad case of the boot loops to begin with? Better yet why on earth would you buy one in that condition? All kinds of flags would've/should've been raised - didn't you even question how it got that way or why it was in that state to begin with?
They have these bad boys are selling for $314.99 at http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/ in the United States. Expansys sells internationally direct from the comfort of your own safe and legal hideout. THAT would've been a more prudent thing to do AND you would've gotten a warranty on top of it!
Just sayin'
Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
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Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
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I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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I agree that the xx was too expensive when it was introduced. I also bought it after the price had dropped .
Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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Yeah it's a damn good deal at 300, and keep in mind i bought it some months ago when it was even better.
That being said the development behind it is terrible
JoeWan said:
Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
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to answer you question, you have to consider SONY's health as business entity! the company had 2.3+ Billion losses in 2015 even with z5 and z5p on their side! (there are many reasons for that)
1. they don't usually link their devices with careers (like samsung does)
2. only gsm
3 poor marketing (the biggest)
4 drmkeys concept (for developers)
now when Xperia X was launched when sony dumped whole Z project and never released Z6 , (may be XZP is another name of z6p) . also X was never released in many countries! in my country there is no Xperia dealer and i order them from dubai.
when extremely talented devices gets extinct, you don't see much activity in developer world also! , If you wana see the most successful and popular ever xperia! , in my opinion Xperia Z (C6602/03 ) is the king. there are so many roms, tweaks, recoveries, for that device! Sony was down very well that time!
now, coming back to X, i have X, its nice phone, today got 7.1.1 from sony. so they haven't completely abandon it; its just its not a very popular device in developer world
I got my XX almost a year ago. Used it like 4 months as my only phone, then as a jukebox when I got a Honor 8 and then an OnePlus 3T, those are good phones but there's something I like of my Xperia X, that's why I installed an Android 7.1.2 concept ROM and I'm using it again. Can't believe the screen is sharper and clearer in the sunset than the OP3T! Also, audio and video recorder is superior than Honor 8 and OP3T.
Even if I hate the fingerprint scanner location, I like my Xperia and I'm currently using it as my daily phone again, while I'm experimenting with the OP3T.
Too bad developers don't have too much interest on this nice piece of phone.