Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
Same boat as you. Last sony I had was the standard Sony X10. It was awful. Hated every minute of it. Was not as bad as my nokia 5800 I owned before it though.
Phones since then have been the galaxy S2, galaxy S3, now the LG G2 (best phone so far), and now pre ordered the X2. It looks amazing, and am very excited about it. Might not have it long as im planning (stupidly maybe) to take it to my 3yr old sons swimming lessons and get some underwater video footage of him as he loves swimming underwater! Think the slow motion feature will look amazing. So hoping Sony really is true to their word on it being waterproof
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Good to know, haha. I'm not really into throwing 100's of euros worth of smartphones into the wall though. Being unemployed really makes you contain your anger and focus it on something else, lol. :silly:
Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
eclyptos said:
Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, if I will not have Z1 I will go for it too.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I find the Z2 beautiful as well!
LG? Hah. I have no love for LG. They have pretty much always messed upp software wise. Just look at the kitkat update for the G2...
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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jayc1980 said:
To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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I stand corrected
Yeah the battery is important nevertheless
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Don't worry Guys, the battery of Z2 is just massive, I got a hell of day with Z1 and I cannot complain, with Z2 it will be even better.
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Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
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yeah there was few problem on xperia z, z1 but it doesn't mean no can trust giant tech manufacture; SONY
But u should w8 for reviews & also users feedback
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I live in Europe and the Xperia S has been out for a while but quite a while I've been doubting about the fact if I should get the Xperia S or wait for a new device by Sony. Lots of phones get announced. But a lot of these are not coming to Europe or take way to long to get released.
I currently got a HTC Desire and its becoming really slow and annoying so its really time to upgrades.
If you spend all your life waiting for the next phone you will never buy one, the Xperia S is brilliant.
Go with the XPS. We're not getting the GX (confirmed-ish), and you can maybe hope for the Ion. But not much else from Sony really.
If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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If you spend all your life waiting for the next phone you will never buy one, the Xperia S is brilliant.
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I understand that. But for example, I wouldn't want to get a Galaxy S II a month ago just to have the S III be released this month. Trying to avoid that happening.
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If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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Is this supposed to be positive or negative?
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If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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BS!
SXS battery won't be worse than Desire's!
I bought SXS less than a month ago, switched from Galaxy Nexus and I don't regret it. You shouldn't focus only on hardware. User Experience is the most important thing. It's UX what makes you pleased when you use your phone and Sony (SE) knows how to make good UX. Aaaand it will get 4.0.4 soon, so you will have latest and greatest with better copy,cut,paste and way better google apps.
Hardware-wise this phone is gorgeous. It's got that "it", that cool-factor which makes everybody look twice on it and it's transparent bar on he bottom is just wow!
One more thing. It's got one of the best auto brightness I've ever seen on Android device. You don't hear something like this very often, but I think it is a detail which makes using YOUR phone pleasant. You don't have to fight with it. Finally it just works and you can forget about it
Just my 2 cents ^^
The XS is Sony's most powerful phone for this year (at least concerning Europe...)!
If you like it, I can absolutely recommend it.
Coming from a SGSII, there are TONS of reasons why I like Sony a lot more then Samsung... (Including the auto brightness, which IS brilliant!)
The Xperia S is great, and it recently dropped in price too (at least in Belgium). From €499 to €449 RRP. You can find it for around €400 easily. Which is a steal for this phone!
Get the store attendant to open the box and show you the build code before you buy, make sure you dont get an early one that will likely have the tint.
buy it....
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I live in Europe and the Xperia S has been out for a while but quite a while I've been doubting about the fact if I should get the Xperia S or wait for a new device by Sony. Lots of phones get announced. But a lot of these are not coming to Europe or take way to long to get released.
I currently got a HTC Desire and its becoming really slow and annoying so its really time to upgrades.
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well, xperia S is international version of xperia ion ( well not exactly the same but you can say so). so as long as I know there is no ion for europe. and believe me if there is a place that xperia S is worth buying in, is europe. I wish I lived in europe so I could use any phone I liked. right now Im using xperia play r800i and its not working well here since its international version and not U.S version. so yea bro buy it. if u listen to me, dont buy it the same day it comes, let it b for a month then buy it, because at first they boost the price to jump the selling. i did this mistake with tablet s and bought it for 400 and now they sell it for 300 to students.. i bought it the very first day it came out.
Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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You can change it, but there arent any available YET. Its not simple either, so its not like you'd carry a spare, but if say in 18 months you wanted to replace the pack it'd be straight forward enough as long as you have the write screw bits for getting into a phone.
kekkle said:
Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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I understand that it may be a issue for you, but seriously why would you want to replace it? It's a integral part of the phone so it's covered by the same 2 year warranty. If it will brake you will have it replaced
I have decided. I will be ordering my black Xperia S tomorrow morning.
I'm very happy
If you answered "yes", then which phone do you wish you had bought/waited and bought instead?
Honestly I've never have to mess around/repair a phone so much and still, 4 months after buying, not at all being happy with it. Mostly it's the battery life, but the software support/bugs got me wishing I had bought another phone instead. Maybe an Xperia V w/extended battery or just an HTC.
It's 70% no and 30% yes.
I really dig this design, seriously, it's gorgeous! And the build materials...LOVE IT!
However...the camera isn't as impressive as I was expecting (my Xperia Pro took pretty damn good photos and sometimes, it was even better than my XP), the dual-core processor didn't blew me away and I'm kinda worried that we won't get an update past 4.1 (which kinda sucks, since I bought the phone 3 months ago).
When I bought XP, I was considering LG L9 (which I still kinda want, save for the ugly design of course) or Galaxy Advance (which was uglier and more expensive). If I get the chance I do would trade my XP for an L9.
But still, I love Sony's UI and apps, so I really never get tired of the phone, and the design will never feel old, nor outdated for me. It can be said that I'm quite happy with the phone, but I still would like to try that L9 phone.
Also, I kinda would like to return to a Galaxy Note (1), while the design is kinda bland, I really would like to experience having a big screen with some few tweaks, besides, I can just install Sony's apps on it.
i am using an xperia sola. i dont really bother about the build design and all but having the latest software means the most to me. its not that sola cant run the latest OS but its the bad chipset with virtually no developer support. So yes 80% i regret buying it. Everytime you buy a new gadget you learn something new. So next time i buy a phone ill ensure the chipset is only from qualcomm.
AW: Do you regret buying your Xperia P?
A clear no
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no ! waiting for JB hehe to be honest just dont like the batter 4hours screen on time with wifi,games but not so heavy , overall performance i like the XP but i want to try xperia Z
Absolutly not, it's my first Androdi Phone but when I compare it with my friends phone, I really prefer mine.
Im already satisfied with my device, but im also worried we wont have an update past 4.1,...i guess this will be the last firmware we'll receive.
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Yes and No, its a sweet phone but i'am not happy with the battery life =\ The screen is god but the reception is not as good as on my HTC One V work phone...
I have rooted it to get rid of all the crapy Sony stuff... next time I think I will buy a Nexus device
Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
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Wish I had invested Rs. 7,000 more and bought the Galaxy Nexus
XSOLA owner
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+1. maybe a little more RnD on our part and we should have gone for a snapdragon powered phone.
I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
Yes.. Poor front camera, few custom roms (didnt release source code) .. I should get samsung s2..
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No 'cause it's better than my former Atrix, it's more smother, more efficient than Moto and is so well build. Imho i will choose once again P. Of course there are better phones but also more expensive than P.
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I just didn't think!! Man I was dumb!
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I dont know about you, but about the time I bought my Xperia U, there was no dual core CPU in the market for the price of the xperia U. I was told the battery lasted about 10 hours and as of now, I'm not disappointed with that claim. Sure, as of now, you have plenty of alternatives for a dual core with those mediatek ones even pumping out quad-core ones [which aren't as far off in benchmarks than our novathor chips].
And to be honest, the only problem I have is not having jelly bean. Then again, if we're being realistic, unless someone bought this phone purely for development [which in that case would be pretty damn dumb and they should have done more research] the phone doesn't falter back. My U satisfies whatever I throw at it at a day to basis [Regular Browser use, music, radio when on stock rom, calling and normal moderate-graphic-intensive-games] I don't see why anybody is complaining. considering the GUI is vitrtually the same as ICS save for project butter [which if you've seen on the xperia J is absolute rubbish]
Just my 2 cents.
EDIT:- Oh and like people have already said before at the price of an Xperia P you will not find the class of build quality observed on any other non-Sony device.
totally regret my xperia p, i live in Canada so i cant really get much for the device over here, plus battery sucks, and yeah kind of sick of messing with my device just so that it will work..its laggy and i should have waited for xperia z or nexus 4, which im probably gonna go get one or the other anyway....so sick of it lol
I dont regret...
I have Lumia 820 and Xperia P.
I bought the XP for 280 USD which is by far cheaper to another phones with the same specs.
Clearly i dont like the battery or the camera (is fine, not great as L820 but who cares)
+1 to that mate i have absolutely no regrets over this phone
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Could have been better, could have been worse
For almost the same price o could have gotten the S2, so a little regret but not too much... it is a good phone
If nexus 4 was out I would've got that, and if I understood the limitations of Novathor might've looked elsewhere. But this is a decent phone for sure, best mid range imo
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ok, i have had HTC phones in the past, however, got an s3 about a year ago and i love it. one of the reasons i left HTC was i was tired of not getting updates in a timely manner (or at all) and the lack of dev support when compared to the GS3 (i am a flash-o-holic). but i am very interested in the ONE.
Anyone that has come over from an s3, i would love to hear what you like or dont about the phone as i am trying to make a decision in the next day or so (one or the s4). The S4 does look great, but its SO close to the s3 in terms of look and general use that i dont knwo if i would really fee like i am getting a new phone.
Thanks!
I came from att and the gs3 and I love this phone. In terms of design and how the phone feels in the hand, there is absolutely no comparison. The phone is definitely snappier and sense 5 is significantly less intrusive then touchwiz. The display is amazing but it does seem smaller then just .1inch(4.7 vs 4.8). I also get much better battery life on the ONE then I did on my gs3. I was in your boat and I debated between the s4 and ONE and I'm glad I made this choice. In the end it is definitely personal preference though.
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I had the S3 before my Nexus 4 and now I have the One.
The One blows the S3 away in every aspect IMO, and I loved the S3. I mean loved it. But the One is my favorite phone EVER, hands down.
I also had an SIII. I went from SIII to the HTC One. However I jumped ship to the Sony Xperia Z. I did have the SIV for sometime but the Xperia Z is really something. It's has been an understatement phone because the HTC One and SIV steal the spotlight but really the Xperia Z us probably far the best to use. All the connectivity things and it has its own BlinkFeed styled app. It's really great.
Try the Xperia Z and the HTC One and see for yourself. The One us a great device but the Sony just has that little something over it
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Flaps for every port? No thanks. I don't need the extra hassle of things that break in a matter of months just to take my phone swimming.
The Xperia Z is definitely a nice phone, but I don't care for the design.
I currently have both the S3 and the One. I use both daily with the S3 being a work phone and the One being my personal phone. It really isn't fair to compare the S3 to the One though. For my use, the One is superior in every way. Battery, smoothness, speed, display, form factor...
I must admit that I am an HTC fan boy coming from a G1, G2, Evo, Amaze, and One S. I did have an S2 for a period before I gave it to my brother and thought it was brilliant at the time though so maybe not completely bias.
Seriously though, when the S3 was announced, I was walking around claiming it as my next device. I was sold. When I went to get one, I couldn't do it. I thought it felt cheap and worth maybe $200. I wandered around and decided I would rather have the One S. It just seemed like a better device. My work then decided to change networks and give us our choice of an S3 or an IPhone. I obviously went with android but quickly found out I had made the right choice with skipping the S3 at launch.
I never felt like the S3 was a better phone than the One S even though it should have been. The screen size was better but I always felt like the One S looked better. I also saw no significant difference in speed. The S3 was better at multi tasking but everyday lags and stutter were no different. They just seemed to be on par with each other. Once I picked up the One, I realized what crap I had been using. The One is just on another level. Compare it to the S4 but comparing with S3 is just being mean.
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Thanks for all the input and suggestions. I really appreciate it. However maybe I didn't state my intent well enough.
I am not trying to compare to an s3. That is my most current phone (had the one s before that) I am considering this over the gs4. I know both those blow the s3 out of the water but that's the phone I am leaving.
As for the Xperia I am definitely interested but don't think the dimensions would work. And from what I have seen the ui is just ok. But I will definitely mess with it when I can. Maybe it will be the one after this (every 6 months!!)
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i too have come from the smasung galaxy phones. i much prefer the htc build quality. for the the samsungs are too plasticky
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i too have come from the smasung galaxy phones. i much prefer the htc build quality. for the the samsungs are too plasticky
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I 1000% agree with you on the build quality. Although i have not had a SINGLE issue with any samsung phone i have had, but for me, build quality is a second priority honestly cause the first thing i do with a new phone is get a good case and screen protector so really all that cool metal doesn't mean a damn thing.
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I 1000% agree with you on the build quality. Although i have not had a SINGLE issue with any samsung phone i have had, but for me, build quality is a second priority honestly cause the first thing i do with a new phone is get a good case and screen protector so really all that cool metal doesn't mean a damn thing.
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Sony doesn't need any protection. But they do give you two InvisiSheild protectors for front and back. Just for the people who are a but scared. HTC One scratches easily... Even in the Offical Double Dip case...
The Xperia Z with the Honami ROM is very great and you should consider it when you go to buy your phone
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Sony doesn't need any protection. But they do give you two InvisiSheild protectors for front and back. Just for the people who are a but scared. HTC One scratches easily... Even in the Offical Double Dip case...
The Xperia Z with the Honami ROM is very great and you should consider it when you go to buy your phone
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Nobody asked about the Xperia Z. Stop trolling
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/why-the-sony-xperia-z-breaks-my-heart
ingenious247 said:
Nobody asked about the Xperia Z. Stop trolling
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/why-the-sony-xperia-z-breaks-my-heart
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Just giving an opinion... Jesus man... There's basically 3 decent phones on the market (SIV, Xperia Z and HTC One). May aswell look at them all...
I was in the same situation (coming from an SIII) and I'm just giving my opinion just like the rest of the people here. Stop crying if I mention the Xperia Z...
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Nobody's crying. You already mentioned it, and how it's better than the One, and when nobody paid you any attention you made another post about it.
This is the One forum, and someone was asking for experience using the ONE coming from the S3. Your posts do not apply to that topic. You're continuing to post about a phone you're dev'ing for that no one asked about.
Bye.
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Nobody's crying. You already mentioned it, and how it's better than the One, and when nobody paid you any attention you made another post about it.
This is the One forum, and someone was asking for experience using the ONE coming from the S3. Your posts do not apply to that topic. You're continuing to post about a phone you're dev'ing for that no one asked about.
Bye.
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I'm not sure if your reading this correctly... He asked about the One or SIV. I recommended an Xperia and the OP acknowledged it as well. He was talking about cases for when he gets a new phone so I just put a little doubt out of his mind with the Z.
If you have a problem you can leave or just ignore what I'm saying, just like how I ignored you when you were saying how you don't care about the design when I wasn't asking for your opinion... In fact, I was talking to the OP so please, be quiet if no one was talking to you at first.
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Ok, fair enough. My apologies but it still appeared to be trolling IMO
Just to be fair, since you want to compare the One and the Z:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/htc-one-vs-xperia-z
And all three
http://www.wired.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phones/2013-06/superphones
As much as I love my One, the S3 is still a fantastic phone which could have kept me happy for another year. The only thing that pushed me to upgrade is my wife's phone was dying and she gets my hand-me-downs.
I'm perfectly happy with my HTC One, but if you have a perfectly good S3 you could probably hold out a few more months and see if new Nexus or Note 3 comes out.
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Can't wait to make the jump in a couple weeks. Just messing with a friend's HTC One for 5-10 minutes I was sold on its build quality, and the Dev community (it being internationally flashable) is awesome. Only see positives for this phone in all aspects. So glad to be moving from plastic to QUALITY. I've yet to get a compliment that my s3 looks nice, and the HTC One gets nothing but positive looks.
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Sony doesn't need any protection. But they do give you two InvisiSheild protectors for front and back. Just for the people who are a but scared. HTC One scratches easily... Even in the Offical Double Dip case...
The Xperia Z with the Honami ROM is very great and you should consider it when you go to buy your phone
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yeah.. i am definitely gonna mess with it before i buy. They are supposed to be instore tomorrow so hopefully i can mess with all the options and just pick one up tomorrow before another phone gets tipped and i wait for that one!! lol (its a vicious cycle)!!
DAMN... and now google has to schedule something for the 24th!!!!! i woud expect android 4.3 but hopefully it wont be the nexus 5 (cause that should ship with KLP i would hope) but good thing TMO in CA has a 30 day return policy!! going to the store hopefully today to make my choice.
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ok, i have had HTC phones in the past, however, got an s3 about a year ago and i love it. one of the reasons i left HTC was i was tired of not getting updates in a timely manner (or at all) and the lack of dev support when compared to the GS3 (i am a flash-o-holic). but i am very interested in the ONE.
Anyone that has come over from an s3, i would love to hear what you like or dont about the phone as i am trying to make a decision in the next day or so (one or the s4). The S4 does look great, but its SO close to the s3 in terms of look and general use that i dont knwo if i would really fee like i am getting a new phone.
Thanks!
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Biggest minus for me is the button layout change and missing of menu button. That's a HUGE minus for me. Guess you don't know what's missing till you lost it. But S3 had the sudden death syndrome so it makes no sense for me to dive into S4 when I just got screwed over by S3...
The dilemmas...
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I'd like to get a Z2, but I've heard that in most retail shops in my country the phones are sometimes branded, so I'd like to check that before buying. Is there an easy and fast method to do so?
Thanks in advance
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Hi
I'd like to get a Z2, but I've heard that in most retail shops in my country the phones are sometimes branded, so I'd like to check that before buying. Is there an easy and fast method to do so?
Thanks in advance
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%99 of the time if it comes from a network provide its branded
if it comes from a 3rd party provider or directly from Sony usually its unbranded
this varies depending on your country
The problem is, I've heard that some of the 3rd parties in Poland sell branded Play/Orange phones and some people get to know it, when they get an update from either of those. The weirdest thing is, that in Sony Centre they say that Z2 in my other local shop can be branded, when in that shop they say that their Z2's are not branded. I don't know what to think about it at all. The thing is, that in the other shop the phone is 100$ cheaper and I can check it before buying, so I could check if it's branded or not, only I have to know how. Is it somewhat connected with the service menu?
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The problem is, I've heard that some of the 3rd parties in Poland sell branded Play/Orange phones and some people get to know it, when they get an update from either of those. The weirdest thing is, that in Sony Centre they say that Z2 in my other local shop can be branded, when in that shop they say that their Z2's are not branded. I don't know what to think about it at all. The thing is, that in the other shop the phone is 100$ cheaper and I can check it before buying, so I could check if it's branded or not, only I have to know how. Is it somewhat connected with the service menu?
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Sony said "can be branded" if the shop says it isn't branded and it is, you can legally sue them
and branded deviced are usualy cheaper because they are simlocked and/or non bootloader unlockable
From what I've read I can easily ckeck if the bootloader is locked or not (via the service menu).
And for the discussion, in Sony Center they said that the other shop (one of the biggest retailers in country btw) bought those phones from Orange. In Komputronik they said that guys in Sony who told me that are sick in their minds. And I don't know who to trust XD
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From what I've read I can easily ckeck if the bootloader is locked or not (via the service menu).
And for the discussion, in Sony Center they said that the other shop (one of the biggest retailers in country btw) bought those phones from Orange. In Komputronik they said that guys in Sony who told me that are sick in their minds. And I don't know who to trust XD
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i think your best bet is to buy directly from sony or a supported 3rd party supplier that isnt this one
:/ safety is often worth the extra money rather then taking a potential risk
It seems I have to. Anyway, sorry for the offtop but I have a question for you. Do you think that Z2 is a good phone to upgrade from my current iPhone 4S? And do you think it would work good and fast for 3 years like my iPhone? Or would you rather buy something else? (G3, M8, Nexus maybe?)
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It seems I have to. Anyway, sorry for the offtop but I have a question for you. Do you think that Z2 is a good phone to upgrade from my current iPhone 4S? And do you think it would work good and fast for 3 years like my iPhone? Or would you rather buy something else? (G3, M8, Nexus maybe?)
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Yes, especially as the prices have fallen now due to the Z3 release. I guess you'll be happy with the Z2.
Thanks for al your answers! I think I'll get a Z2 from my local Sony Center, but if anyone knows a way how to check the branding, please post it below anyway. It may be useful for some poeple
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It seems I have to. Anyway, sorry for the offtop but I have a question for you. Do you think that Z2 is a good phone to upgrade from my current iPhone 4S? And do you think it would work good and fast for 3 years like my iPhone? Or would you rather buy something else? (G3, M8, Nexus maybe?)
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Definatly!
alot of iphone users who love that minimalist ios look and feel often come to xperia for its UI and looks
however, go and play with the G3, and M8 and then come back to xperia
ive noticed some phones take some tinkering before the user can properly decide weather they like it or not
personaly for me id either have a iphone 5S (6 is terrible compared to 5, felt cheap :{ sme people like it i guess) or a xperia simply because i love both phones
I really like the looks of my 4S and iOS 7. I wanted something with bigger screen than in the 5S anyway, so that's why I waited till the keynote and the only things I can say about 6 and 6 plus's relation between hardware, design and price is just... meh
That's why I think about getting Z2. It looks like a bigger and facelifted 4S + from what I've heard the battery is really good in this one And the microsd port is always a nice thing to have
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I really like the looks of my 4S and iOS 7. I wanted something with bigger screen than in the 5S anyway, so that's why I waited till the keynote and the only things I can say about 6 and 6 plus's relation between hardware, design and price is just... meh
That's why I think about getting Z2. It looks like a bigger and facelifted 4S + from what I've heard the battery is really good in this one And the microsd port is always a nice thing to have
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why i think logically you will love Z2
Great battery - 3300Mah Li-ion
plenty of useful features.. if you use them
nice looks.. to me at least
1080p screen
water resistant IP58 Cert
xperias are tough. i beat a Xperia S up for about 3 years and it still works in my brothers hands
Z2 feels tough
micro Sd slot upto 128gb
many more, just check GSM arena or sony mobile website for phone details
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Great battery - 3300Mah Li-ion
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Great Li-poly 3200mAh!
Jackos said:
Great Li-poly 3200mAh!
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lol forgot about this xD
im not sure weather its li-poly or li-ion
Sony Team 7- Li-Ion
Sony Team 8- Li-poly
Xperia blog staff- 50:50ish poly vs ion
either way the battery should last 2-4 years
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lol forgot about this xD
im not sure weather its li-poly or li-ion
Sony Team 7- Li-Ion
Sony Team 8- Li-poly
Xperia blog staff- 50:50ish poly vs ion
either way the battery should last 2-4 years
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It's like Sony still has not decided what they did put in it xD
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It's like Sony still has not decided what they did put in it xD
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perhaps its a hybrid
since it says both li-poly and li-ion
And... What's the difference and what's better?
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And... What's the difference and what's better?
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Li-ion wears out over time and incrases due to heating
Li-poly wears out due to use and after a long time it will explode
I've just read (and saw at many Youtube vidoes) that the Z2 likes to overhear, espacially while playing games/watching movies and (most of the time) while taking photos and recording videos. Is it really such a common problem?
I didn't read the whole thread but if you plan to flash CyanogenMod on it, then u will lose the carrierbrand anyway.
Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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If you want to run different ROMs - get the international version. The GPe 4.4.4 and Lollipop is already ported so they are available.
The problem with the GPe is that it uses a different partition scheme making it unable to use ROMs for the rest of the crowd (C6802/6806-nonGPe/6833). I would therefore recommend a C6806 or C6833 depending on what bands (LTE) you want and need.
Because of the superior selection of ROMs including GPe, I would simply go for a C6833 unless you are absolutely sure that everything else than the GPe ROM is of no interest.
With the "Sony Edition" (C6833 et al) you have great options: Sony ROMs, GPe or AOSP/CM based ones in different flavors. I think this selection is reason enough to go for the Xperia rather than the GPe.
Leechoonhwee said:
Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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As they are in Italy I would not recommend the c6806 in either the Sony version or the GPe, get the c6833 (international). Sony's UI is very 'stock' android with very little bloat and packaged apps. As for battery life, expect 4 to 8 hours of screen on time depending on what you are doing. My GPe version on Lollipop has 5 days uptime, ~20% battery used and it says 13 days remaining on standby with the wifi on - no real use this week as I'm using my other phone.
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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Just looking at your sig, I think we could be the same boat.
I had 4 years all with HTC phones ( HD2, Ruby, One) and I recently made a first move to Sony phone, this Z Ultra C6833 and have no regret, even one bit. I personally think Sony phone has great battery, very responsive touchscreen, premium quality hardware built etc...which on par with HTC at least, or better.
Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets. I didn't think about buying one, until I had one in my hands to try, and I was sold in 3 minutes. With the heavy dropped price on this Z Ultra these days, it's a steal, you'll be more than happy.
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Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets.
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
Here in italy its not as highly regarded as samsung or LG neither is HTC but i look at specs affidability and price over the usual consumer jargon.. im sure ill be pleased with this device!!!
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
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I agree that Sony is still a big name of the game, what I mean was Sony deserves more than that. It could be one of top 3 players. Here in Canada Sony doesn't seem to do much comparing to other brands name. I wished I'd knew how good Sony phones was sooner. It's great to know that Sony phones are doing well in other countries.
I dont know if there is amazon in italy, but I bought mine for €260.- on amazon.
The alternative was the LG G2 for €300.-
If you really like to use big phones, go for it. I actually wanted a big phone and really like sony Z line design of phones, not to mention the extremely appealing price. Snapdragon 800 and a huge phone for €260? It was a no brainer for me.
Not to mention the advantage of having a GPe Version, portable lolipop roms. Just in case you miss it, this phone has an IPS display, unlike the Z and Z1 of sony.
There are complaints though, so for those, you can find enough information. Personally, I am very satisfied.
just as an update i ordered the C6833 variant just now at 239 euro (im still rubbing my hands like monty burns!!) thanks to all for your input!!!
i'll look forward to sharing the z ultra sub section with you guys!!
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
asadkhanduhh said:
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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And getting ready for Z4 Ultra production. Yay!
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I haven't seen it for sale here in the US lately, as it was on sale here for Christmas ? .
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
A definite buy
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
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I have recently purchased Z Ultra after having a lot of comparison with other devices and I have no regret that I have bought this device. The price was a major factor.
The screen size is something It would take time for to adjust with(First time using a phone with such a form factor, all previous devices were around 4.5 inches)
The phone is butter smooth and no lag at all. Battery lasts around 2-2.5 days with moderate usage(Have stamina mode ON for the full time).
I will surely recommend to get a ZU.
Just got mine
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
Thanks so that should be my next device, I have been waiting for a pass for One Plus, actualy was the very first one to get it when it was launched in India but didnt have the money to buy it now I tired waiting endlessly for it and have decided to go for ZU
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As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
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