Hi
I'd like to get a Z2, but I've heard that in most retail shops in my country the phones are sometimes branded, so I'd like to check that before buying. Is there an easy and fast method to do so?
Thanks in advance
Tmattom said:
Hi
I'd like to get a Z2, but I've heard that in most retail shops in my country the phones are sometimes branded, so I'd like to check that before buying. Is there an easy and fast method to do so?
Thanks in advance
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%99 of the time if it comes from a network provide its branded
if it comes from a 3rd party provider or directly from Sony usually its unbranded
this varies depending on your country
The problem is, I've heard that some of the 3rd parties in Poland sell branded Play/Orange phones and some people get to know it, when they get an update from either of those. The weirdest thing is, that in Sony Centre they say that Z2 in my other local shop can be branded, when in that shop they say that their Z2's are not branded. I don't know what to think about it at all. The thing is, that in the other shop the phone is 100$ cheaper and I can check it before buying, so I could check if it's branded or not, only I have to know how. Is it somewhat connected with the service menu?
Tmattom said:
The problem is, I've heard that some of the 3rd parties in Poland sell branded Play/Orange phones and some people get to know it, when they get an update from either of those. The weirdest thing is, that in Sony Centre they say that Z2 in my other local shop can be branded, when in that shop they say that their Z2's are not branded. I don't know what to think about it at all. The thing is, that in the other shop the phone is 100$ cheaper and I can check it before buying, so I could check if it's branded or not, only I have to know how. Is it somewhat connected with the service menu?
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Sony said "can be branded" if the shop says it isn't branded and it is, you can legally sue them
and branded deviced are usualy cheaper because they are simlocked and/or non bootloader unlockable
From what I've read I can easily ckeck if the bootloader is locked or not (via the service menu).
And for the discussion, in Sony Center they said that the other shop (one of the biggest retailers in country btw) bought those phones from Orange. In Komputronik they said that guys in Sony who told me that are sick in their minds. And I don't know who to trust XD
Tmattom said:
From what I've read I can easily ckeck if the bootloader is locked or not (via the service menu).
And for the discussion, in Sony Center they said that the other shop (one of the biggest retailers in country btw) bought those phones from Orange. In Komputronik they said that guys in Sony who told me that are sick in their minds. And I don't know who to trust XD
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i think your best bet is to buy directly from sony or a supported 3rd party supplier that isnt this one
:/ safety is often worth the extra money rather then taking a potential risk
It seems I have to. Anyway, sorry for the offtop but I have a question for you. Do you think that Z2 is a good phone to upgrade from my current iPhone 4S? And do you think it would work good and fast for 3 years like my iPhone? Or would you rather buy something else? (G3, M8, Nexus maybe?)
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It seems I have to. Anyway, sorry for the offtop but I have a question for you. Do you think that Z2 is a good phone to upgrade from my current iPhone 4S? And do you think it would work good and fast for 3 years like my iPhone? Or would you rather buy something else? (G3, M8, Nexus maybe?)
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Yes, especially as the prices have fallen now due to the Z3 release. I guess you'll be happy with the Z2.
Thanks for al your answers! I think I'll get a Z2 from my local Sony Center, but if anyone knows a way how to check the branding, please post it below anyway. It may be useful for some poeple
Tmattom said:
It seems I have to. Anyway, sorry for the offtop but I have a question for you. Do you think that Z2 is a good phone to upgrade from my current iPhone 4S? And do you think it would work good and fast for 3 years like my iPhone? Or would you rather buy something else? (G3, M8, Nexus maybe?)
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Definatly!
alot of iphone users who love that minimalist ios look and feel often come to xperia for its UI and looks
however, go and play with the G3, and M8 and then come back to xperia
ive noticed some phones take some tinkering before the user can properly decide weather they like it or not
personaly for me id either have a iphone 5S (6 is terrible compared to 5, felt cheap :{ sme people like it i guess) or a xperia simply because i love both phones
I really like the looks of my 4S and iOS 7. I wanted something with bigger screen than in the 5S anyway, so that's why I waited till the keynote and the only things I can say about 6 and 6 plus's relation between hardware, design and price is just... meh
That's why I think about getting Z2. It looks like a bigger and facelifted 4S + from what I've heard the battery is really good in this one And the microsd port is always a nice thing to have
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I really like the looks of my 4S and iOS 7. I wanted something with bigger screen than in the 5S anyway, so that's why I waited till the keynote and the only things I can say about 6 and 6 plus's relation between hardware, design and price is just... meh
That's why I think about getting Z2. It looks like a bigger and facelifted 4S + from what I've heard the battery is really good in this one And the microsd port is always a nice thing to have
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why i think logically you will love Z2
Great battery - 3300Mah Li-ion
plenty of useful features.. if you use them
nice looks.. to me at least
1080p screen
water resistant IP58 Cert
xperias are tough. i beat a Xperia S up for about 3 years and it still works in my brothers hands
Z2 feels tough
micro Sd slot upto 128gb
many more, just check GSM arena or sony mobile website for phone details
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Great battery - 3300Mah Li-ion
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Great Li-poly 3200mAh!
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Great Li-poly 3200mAh!
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lol forgot about this xD
im not sure weather its li-poly or li-ion
Sony Team 7- Li-Ion
Sony Team 8- Li-poly
Xperia blog staff- 50:50ish poly vs ion
either way the battery should last 2-4 years
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lol forgot about this xD
im not sure weather its li-poly or li-ion
Sony Team 7- Li-Ion
Sony Team 8- Li-poly
Xperia blog staff- 50:50ish poly vs ion
either way the battery should last 2-4 years
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It's like Sony still has not decided what they did put in it xD
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It's like Sony still has not decided what they did put in it xD
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perhaps its a hybrid
since it says both li-poly and li-ion
And... What's the difference and what's better?
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And... What's the difference and what's better?
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Li-ion wears out over time and incrases due to heating
Li-poly wears out due to use and after a long time it will explode
I've just read (and saw at many Youtube vidoes) that the Z2 likes to overhear, espacially while playing games/watching movies and (most of the time) while taking photos and recording videos. Is it really such a common problem?
I didn't read the whole thread but if you plan to flash CyanogenMod on it, then u will lose the carrierbrand anyway.
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I live in Europe and the Xperia S has been out for a while but quite a while I've been doubting about the fact if I should get the Xperia S or wait for a new device by Sony. Lots of phones get announced. But a lot of these are not coming to Europe or take way to long to get released.
I currently got a HTC Desire and its becoming really slow and annoying so its really time to upgrades.
If you spend all your life waiting for the next phone you will never buy one, the Xperia S is brilliant.
Go with the XPS. We're not getting the GX (confirmed-ish), and you can maybe hope for the Ion. But not much else from Sony really.
If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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If you spend all your life waiting for the next phone you will never buy one, the Xperia S is brilliant.
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I understand that. But for example, I wouldn't want to get a Galaxy S II a month ago just to have the S III be released this month. Trying to avoid that happening.
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If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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Is this supposed to be positive or negative?
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If you want a smartphone that in 10 hours with a medium use drain the battery completely, buy Xperia S.
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BS!
SXS battery won't be worse than Desire's!
I bought SXS less than a month ago, switched from Galaxy Nexus and I don't regret it. You shouldn't focus only on hardware. User Experience is the most important thing. It's UX what makes you pleased when you use your phone and Sony (SE) knows how to make good UX. Aaaand it will get 4.0.4 soon, so you will have latest and greatest with better copy,cut,paste and way better google apps.
Hardware-wise this phone is gorgeous. It's got that "it", that cool-factor which makes everybody look twice on it and it's transparent bar on he bottom is just wow!
One more thing. It's got one of the best auto brightness I've ever seen on Android device. You don't hear something like this very often, but I think it is a detail which makes using YOUR phone pleasant. You don't have to fight with it. Finally it just works and you can forget about it
Just my 2 cents ^^
The XS is Sony's most powerful phone for this year (at least concerning Europe...)!
If you like it, I can absolutely recommend it.
Coming from a SGSII, there are TONS of reasons why I like Sony a lot more then Samsung... (Including the auto brightness, which IS brilliant!)
The Xperia S is great, and it recently dropped in price too (at least in Belgium). From €499 to €449 RRP. You can find it for around €400 easily. Which is a steal for this phone!
Get the store attendant to open the box and show you the build code before you buy, make sure you dont get an early one that will likely have the tint.
buy it....
kekkle said:
I live in Europe and the Xperia S has been out for a while but quite a while I've been doubting about the fact if I should get the Xperia S or wait for a new device by Sony. Lots of phones get announced. But a lot of these are not coming to Europe or take way to long to get released.
I currently got a HTC Desire and its becoming really slow and annoying so its really time to upgrades.
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well, xperia S is international version of xperia ion ( well not exactly the same but you can say so). so as long as I know there is no ion for europe. and believe me if there is a place that xperia S is worth buying in, is europe. I wish I lived in europe so I could use any phone I liked. right now Im using xperia play r800i and its not working well here since its international version and not U.S version. so yea bro buy it. if u listen to me, dont buy it the same day it comes, let it b for a month then buy it, because at first they boost the price to jump the selling. i did this mistake with tablet s and bought it for 400 and now they sell it for 300 to students.. i bought it the very first day it came out.
Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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You can change it, but there arent any available YET. Its not simple either, so its not like you'd carry a spare, but if say in 18 months you wanted to replace the pack it'd be straight forward enough as long as you have the write screw bits for getting into a phone.
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Well, I've just been to the store again to check everything there is and still the Xperia S is my most wanted phone. My only thing against it now is the fact that the battery can't be replaced.
Is it really unreplaceable even when voiding warranty?
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I understand that it may be a issue for you, but seriously why would you want to replace it? It's a integral part of the phone so it's covered by the same 2 year warranty. If it will brake you will have it replaced
I have decided. I will be ordering my black Xperia S tomorrow morning.
I'm very happy
Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
Same boat as you. Last sony I had was the standard Sony X10. It was awful. Hated every minute of it. Was not as bad as my nokia 5800 I owned before it though.
Phones since then have been the galaxy S2, galaxy S3, now the LG G2 (best phone so far), and now pre ordered the X2. It looks amazing, and am very excited about it. Might not have it long as im planning (stupidly maybe) to take it to my 3yr old sons swimming lessons and get some underwater video footage of him as he loves swimming underwater! Think the slow motion feature will look amazing. So hoping Sony really is true to their word on it being waterproof
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Good to know, haha. I'm not really into throwing 100's of euros worth of smartphones into the wall though. Being unemployed really makes you contain your anger and focus it on something else, lol. :silly:
Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, if I will not have Z1 I will go for it too.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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jayc1980 said:
I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I find the Z2 beautiful as well!
LG? Hah. I have no love for LG. They have pretty much always messed upp software wise. Just look at the kitkat update for the G2...
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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I stand corrected
Yeah the battery is important nevertheless
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Don't worry Guys, the battery of Z2 is just massive, I got a hell of day with Z1 and I cannot complain, with Z2 it will be even better.
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Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
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yeah there was few problem on xperia z, z1 but it doesn't mean no can trust giant tech manufacture; SONY
But u should w8 for reviews & also users feedback
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it s available in East Asia anyone have it?
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
I had the same problem and decided to buy the Z2. I have no problems with overheating whatever I do. Software is the best customized android out there. Better than sense or touchwiz. Idk how long it takes to fully charge but not very long at least not longer than on my m7
I would go for the z2. Awesome phone
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It doesnt overheat playing games or other stuff, only 4k recording. M8 is more comfortable in hand, z2 has better package overall.
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hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Hello XperiaZ2 user switched from HTC One(m7) here! Overheating while you are playing game isn't a problem, it happens to all phone. (At least my HTC One did) And I am playing HD Youtube everyday but at least I don't get burnt, so it must be okay for you too. Also as 4k is new technology for smartphone, we have to understand it is still not perfect, some user reports that software update solve this overheating problem and I don't feel it too hot.
Yeah I couldn't choose between M8 and Z2 and OnePlus..... but finally I bought XperiaZ2. As they have better spec and price is lower than M8 and I wanted something funny! (Oneplus is good price and good spec, but it's too simple!)
They have shatter proof glass It shouldn't break easily.(I dropped several times, but there is no crack and working fine!)
Yeah XperiaZ2 is really good phone I've used Xperia Z and HTC One(m7) yeah much better than these. I recommend you to go with Sony.
- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please
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- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please
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Okay. There is some heating but not as bad as overheating.
As they are using shatter proof glass I can't see scratch with out case and protector.
You take your time and think. Z3 might be coming in few months.... (it's what happend when I bought Xperia Z)
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I have left the LG G2 for the Xperia Z2 and glad I did.
I would say it heats up less than the G2 when playing intensive games.
The only thing the G2 had that I wish the Z2 had is knock off. It has knock on, just can't turn off the screen with a double tap :/
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PiskopatYazar said:
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I meant in daily use...... We don't use phone like that...
i've had my Z2 for about a week now and haven't noticed any excessive overheating. i've never had a smartphone that didn't heat up somewhat while playing games and i don't feel the Z2 is any worse than my HTC One M7 was. i prefer Sense's widgets and apps but the interface on the Z2 is quite nice and i am enjoying messing around with the camera. i think i can agree with the reviews in that the Z2 doesn't necessarily beat other phones in any one area but it is solid or even great in all areas. this is probably the first phone i've owned that has all the things i want (front-facing speakers, CAMERA BUTTON, and SD card) and doesn't compromise anywhere.
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As HTC One(m7) and Z2 has different Concept so it can't simply compared. And they are different generation.... But I can definitely say Z2 is the one of the best smartphone I've ever had include my Smartphone from Japan..... Anyway you might get overheat problem but you can simply take it back to shop.... (do it before you messed it up with rooting!) As my latest phone is XperiaZ2 this opinion is bit biased, but still it's a good phone.... Some time I feel it big..... it might not be big problem if you are switching from G2....
Give it a try........ You'll love it. ( ･`ω･´)
There is heat on the Z2, but not 'Overheating'. Heats up just as much as any other smartphone out there when gaming. But doesn't get hot to the extent u can make barbecue or scramble eggs on it. And when u are not gaming, it is ice cool (at least, mine is). The Xperia Z2 is the best device i ever used, and i'm not even rooted yet. xD
I have to agree with a lot of the comments already posted.
The phone WILL heat up but it doesn't affect performance in any way.. and it's not excessively heating up more than any other smartphone would...
Also.. This is the first phone where I don't feel it's absolutely necessary to Unlock bootloader and root...
I have been unlocking and rooting all my previous phones because I felt it's essential to do so... S2, S3, Z, Z1...
LaMMi
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hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Opinions are subjective. The choice is there. All the mobiles you mention are top models, 'Flag ships', in their brand and function extremely well. All are different and there is no such device as 'the best'. You need to discover what phone will fit your needs.
I change phones about twice a year, sometimes three times. I am a technophile, Its my hobby, my vice. My advice to you would be to see all the mobiles you mention, have a play and make YOUR choice.
I lean toward Sony at present and away from Samsung and HTC. I do this because I FIND the UI on the HTC and the Samsung's too heavy. I PREFERE the UI on the Sony brand. I do find the quality for a flag ship mobile to be well represented by both HTC and Sony. I prefer the Sony only through choice.
I have owned several HTC mobiles and I live out in the countryside where signal strength is poor. HTC so far have been one of the weakest in terms of being able to pick up a signal. The Sony and Samsung also LG have all been fine with Nokia being the most competent in terms of catching signal strength.
I sold my SG Note 3 within weeks. This was MY FAULT, I purchased the phone on pre sale order before I had the chance to even hold one. When I held it, after owning the Sony Xperia Z, I was bitterly disappointed with the phones plastic construction. Plastic leather back with plastic play stitching plus the plastic chrome sides? It just didn't give ME that quality buzz and pride of ownership. My Sony Z Ultra is a quality device that oozes class and quality of materials and construction, size is the problem there.
I now use the nexus 5 and the Sony Xperia Z ultra. I have ordered the Z2 last week and will sell the Nexus 5.
IF the Z2 is built to the same standards the Ultra and Z are then I shall be a very happy person. I miss the UI as the Nexus 5 is not serving my needs even though it also is a very fine mobile indeed.
Please don't read too many forums. If you took notice of the reports, reviews and posts you read on ANY forum you would never dare make another single purchase including the shoes on your feet. All the mobiles you mention are best buys for the owner. Its what your expectations are that counts not mine.
Let us know what you decide on purchasing. Good luck with what ever you buy I am sure you will enjoy your new mobile.
Regards, Ryland
Oh BTW is you seriously drop your phones a lot I would either insure you new phone or NOT purchase ANY phone that price. If you do purchase a flagship phone buy a case and screen saver plus insurance.
to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok
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to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok
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How would one ensure that they have this batch?
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How would one ensure that they have this batch?
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check the batch number in the micro sd port information tray and get some information on the internet, right now im really fed up with sony im so upset that i wouldn't care anymore :/
Just wait mate don't buy it now
I came from a G2 as well, I'll say get whichever is cheaper. They're both about the same. HTC got better speakers and a big dev base (if that's important to you), Z2 has better camera and the waterproof aspect.
Apart from that, both got great battery life, screens are great, build quality great on both devices. Don't worry about the heat issue, anytime u push a phone it gets warm a bit
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It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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4hrs to charge?? That sucks..
Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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If you want to run different ROMs - get the international version. The GPe 4.4.4 and Lollipop is already ported so they are available.
The problem with the GPe is that it uses a different partition scheme making it unable to use ROMs for the rest of the crowd (C6802/6806-nonGPe/6833). I would therefore recommend a C6806 or C6833 depending on what bands (LTE) you want and need.
Because of the superior selection of ROMs including GPe, I would simply go for a C6833 unless you are absolutely sure that everything else than the GPe ROM is of no interest.
With the "Sony Edition" (C6833 et al) you have great options: Sony ROMs, GPe or AOSP/CM based ones in different flavors. I think this selection is reason enough to go for the Xperia rather than the GPe.
Leechoonhwee said:
Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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As they are in Italy I would not recommend the c6806 in either the Sony version or the GPe, get the c6833 (international). Sony's UI is very 'stock' android with very little bloat and packaged apps. As for battery life, expect 4 to 8 hours of screen on time depending on what you are doing. My GPe version on Lollipop has 5 days uptime, ~20% battery used and it says 13 days remaining on standby with the wifi on - no real use this week as I'm using my other phone.
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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Just looking at your sig, I think we could be the same boat.
I had 4 years all with HTC phones ( HD2, Ruby, One) and I recently made a first move to Sony phone, this Z Ultra C6833 and have no regret, even one bit. I personally think Sony phone has great battery, very responsive touchscreen, premium quality hardware built etc...which on par with HTC at least, or better.
Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets. I didn't think about buying one, until I had one in my hands to try, and I was sold in 3 minutes. With the heavy dropped price on this Z Ultra these days, it's a steal, you'll be more than happy.
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Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets.
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
Here in italy its not as highly regarded as samsung or LG neither is HTC but i look at specs affidability and price over the usual consumer jargon.. im sure ill be pleased with this device!!!
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
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I agree that Sony is still a big name of the game, what I mean was Sony deserves more than that. It could be one of top 3 players. Here in Canada Sony doesn't seem to do much comparing to other brands name. I wished I'd knew how good Sony phones was sooner. It's great to know that Sony phones are doing well in other countries.
I dont know if there is amazon in italy, but I bought mine for €260.- on amazon.
The alternative was the LG G2 for €300.-
If you really like to use big phones, go for it. I actually wanted a big phone and really like sony Z line design of phones, not to mention the extremely appealing price. Snapdragon 800 and a huge phone for €260? It was a no brainer for me.
Not to mention the advantage of having a GPe Version, portable lolipop roms. Just in case you miss it, this phone has an IPS display, unlike the Z and Z1 of sony.
There are complaints though, so for those, you can find enough information. Personally, I am very satisfied.
just as an update i ordered the C6833 variant just now at 239 euro (im still rubbing my hands like monty burns!!) thanks to all for your input!!!
i'll look forward to sharing the z ultra sub section with you guys!!
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
asadkhanduhh said:
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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And getting ready for Z4 Ultra production. Yay!
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I haven't seen it for sale here in the US lately, as it was on sale here for Christmas ? .
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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Flaco05 said:
Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
A definite buy
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
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I have recently purchased Z Ultra after having a lot of comparison with other devices and I have no regret that I have bought this device. The price was a major factor.
The screen size is something It would take time for to adjust with(First time using a phone with such a form factor, all previous devices were around 4.5 inches)
The phone is butter smooth and no lag at all. Battery lasts around 2-2.5 days with moderate usage(Have stamina mode ON for the full time).
I will surely recommend to get a ZU.
Just got mine
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
Thanks so that should be my next device, I have been waiting for a pass for One Plus, actualy was the very first one to get it when it was launched in India but didnt have the money to buy it now I tired waiting endlessly for it and have decided to go for ZU
JackD3ath said:
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
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This made me sad and I hope to god it's not true.
Link - http://www.gsmarena.com/reuters_sony_is_open_to_selling_its_mobile_phone_business-news-10751.php
Yes That is seriously not the best thing to read.
May this be some rumour.
@jerpelea, if you can please do let the people at Sony Mobile know that how much we love them, and how much we wish that this news is a rumour.
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May this be some rumour.
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I hope to god it is a rumour. Of all companies, I'd hate Sony to stop producing products especially phones and televisions...
As others have said, Sony may just need to change their strategy and marketing to gain further sales and and profits...
Remember several times in the past, HTC was in trouble and there were rumours of them going bankrupt due to a loss of millions of dollars.
A year or so later, HTC have changed their strategy and are heavily advertising their products resulting in better sales and profits...
One can only hope Sony do the same. Samsung, LG and HTC are advertising everywhere on the TV, radio and streets.
Whilst I've seen Sony adverts, they are rare and not enough.
Later on this year, the new James Bond movie will be released. It is said it will feature the latest Sony Z4 so this should hopefully boost interest and result in further sales!
I myself and eagerly awaiting the release of the Z4 ultra and I believe it'll be one of the best handsets released early this year.
It'll be the first mobile to have a whooping 4Gb ram! Also we should have a greatly improved 16mp camera with flash, a 2k screen, bigger battery, etc...
This won't happen anytime soon, if it happens at all.
Sony now finally releases one flagship each year, thus saving themselves money and making the customers happy.
Personally i think Sony is going in the right direction, and leading in community and developer support, i'm sure it's only a matter of time that this turns out positive.
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Sony is not doing well at all. It first discontinued Vaio notebook computers, now thinking of ditching mobiles after buying out Ericsson's interest in their partnership.
Underlying factor of why Sony DOES NOT succeed here in the US is NO MOBILE PHONE SUBSIDIES, and poor customer support.
Major software flaws also play a part as well.
My last experience with customer support surprised me in the quick turnaround in the replacement of my Xperia Z Ultra, but the phone has a mind of its own, at times unresponsive, and just yesterday, its first reboot after being totally unresponsive.
I do like the fact that this mobile phone, with its improvements, impress me, but up to a point.
My biggest gripe is an unremovable battery ? .
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Sony is not doing well at all. It first discontinued Vaio notebook computers, now thinking of ditching mobiles after buying out Ericsson's interest in their partnership.
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One can only hope the Xperia Z Ultra is a success, it may just turn things around for the best...
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My biggest gripe is an unremovable battery .
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Consider the fact that Apple phones, Motorola, some LG, Nokia, Lenovo do not have removable batteries.
In fact, the majority dont have removable batteries. I would like to have removable batteries aswell.
Its a weak argument, but apple of course started the whole thing.
As for the subject at hand, its for the best. They should either completely stop making smartphones or start making more marketing. Afterall, in the smartphone business, ads and brand names make the sales.
There is a German idiom "Mehr Schein als Sein ", which roughly translates to " It's all on the surface".
Content value matters little compared to the percieved value of something. I dont have any brand loyalty to sony, but I would prefer more players on the field because I rather would not have a smartphone then forced to choose an Apple iphone or Samsung phone.
I loathe apple products and the people who support such business practices.
Samsung Galaxy series is much more popular than any iPhone, yet has a removable battery, so I do not accept your argument on that.
Making it ?water proof is most likely the reason why it has a sealed battery. But batteries don't have an extended life, so what's to happen when the battery ? finally dies??!!
Not enough innovation has gone into any of the Xperia line of mobile phones , yet some innovation has made it a worthwhile look to.
But software and hardware problems have frightened off potential customers ,and rightly so, since I have experienced some software and hardware issues with the replacement device as well.
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But batteries don't have an extended life, so what's to happen when the battery ? finally dies??!!
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You buy a battery of ebay or other site and a tape seal and change the battery - then you are good for another 3 + years
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Consider the fact that Apple phones, Motorola, some LG, Nokia, Lenovo do not have removable batteries.
In fact, the majority dont have removable batteries. I would like to have removable batteries aswell.
Its a weak argument, but apple of course started the whole thing.
As for the subject at hand, its for the best. They should either completely stop making smartphones or start making more marketing. Afterall, in the smartphone business, ads and brand names make the sales.
There is a German idiom "Mehr Schein als Sein ", which roughly translates to " It's all on the surface".
Content value matters little compared to the percieved value of something. I dont have any brand loyalty to sony, but I would prefer more players on the field because I rather would not have a smartphone then forced to choose an Apple iphone or Samsung phone.
I loathe apple products and the people who support such business practices.
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As much as I like to blame Apple for everything, this is not something they started... far from it. In fact, if you want to blame someone for starting the "PDA-Phone with non-removable batteries", have a look at HTC. The SX56 aka HTC Wallaby did not have a removable battery and it preceded the iPhone by roughly 6 years. Let alone the fact that most PDA's before that did not have a removable battery either.
Changing the battery ? on this or any other sealed Sony mobile phone is a nightmare if you do not have the proper tools . I don't. And I know if Sony were to replace the battery ?, it would be very expensive .
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Changing the battery on this or any other sealed Sony mobile phone is a nightmare if you do not have the proper tools . I don't. And I know if Sony were to replace the battery , it would be very expensive .
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The main issue is the water-proof tape problem! When you removed the back-lid, you should notice that there is a rubber tape with glue attached. It must be needed to replace a new one each time, else the water proof function will be gone.
It's quite easy and cheap to buy on chinese shopping website(www.taobao.com), but the logistic fee is horrible for overseas.
P.S I had more than 10 times for xperia Z, Z1, Z Ultra disassembly
Goodness, is it that easy to change the battery? And where do you find a Sony replacement battery ? ?
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Goodness, is it that easy to change the battery? And where do you find a Sony replacement battery ?
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The best place to find a Sony battery would be Ebay. You can easily find Xperia Z Ultra accessories there.
Here is a link for a genuine battery, only £8.90 which is around $12, far cheaper than Sony would charge you for a battery!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Genui...148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item48732e0d0c
Even the rear glass cover can be bought off Ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sony-Xper...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item23376fcb2b
I could never do this, but I do know a friend who might be able to do this.
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Yet another statement from Sony threatening to exit the smartphone and television business:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_could_...ess_in_a_bid_to_turn_to_profit-news-11247.php
I don't think there is much that Sony can do to save a sinking ? ship.
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I don't think there is much that Sony can do to save a sinking ship.
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Perhaps they could make a few budget phones being very cheap. This could attract customers as well as those living in poorer countries...