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I was thinking since our phone is so similar wouldn't it be possible once we have s-off to flash roms for the sensation also?
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Never. Never would you ever be able to flash a ROM from another phone onto yours without porting.
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Even though they are similar, I believe the major thing is the GSM radio vs CDMA radio. It would mean that porting a sensation rom would be much easier than say porting a Moto droid rom.
Hopefully a Hero guy will chime in here with tons more info. They had a GSM counterpart too.
By the way FAIL and No........ is of no help to anybody and just means wasted scrolling to find any real info.
We had a some gsm stuff on the heroc but also a great deal from the eris (verizons heroc clone)
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Not sure if it's the same, but I remember when I had my Inspire 4G, I flashed several ROMs from the Desire HD forums
Okay so we all know that the Evo 4g LTE is pretty much the almost exact same as the One X obviously different hardware, but when it comes down to software aren't they almost exactly the same? Android 4.0, Sense 4, same internals more or less. So I have two questions that sort of all tie together. 1. Is porting ROM's hard? 2. Is there something I am missing to why we don't have as many ROM's as the One X? If they can be ported. I am not being a **** and saying developers need to work harder, because they don't they already work hard enough supporting their ROM's. I am genuinely curious as to why this is if the E4LTE and One X are very close devices. Again not supposed to be taken pushy or anything.
Source for our EVOs just dropped a couple days ago and the One X has had source since day one. Just wait your gonna end up see ALOT of Roms drop soon...
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Plus the one x has a bigger base as in a larger spectrum of people with it. You got to think, world full of GSM vs 1 nation of sprint users.
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The international one x is a COMPLETELY different device, sense 4 being the only real similarity. We have almost identical device as the at&t, rogers one x, whose source was also JUST released. So wen checking one x forums you need to look for the at&t, rogers one x forum. NOT HTC one x forum. Two totally different devices, att. One x having qualcomm msm8960 snapdragon and the intl. Version having a Nvidia tegra 3 chipset
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Thanks guys.
DB13 said:
Source for our EVOs just dropped a couple days ago and the One X has had source since day one. Just wait your gonna end up see ALOT of Roms drop soon...
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What does kernel source have to do with ROM releases? We'll see a couple of kernels here and there and perhaps some fixes in CM9/MIUI/AOKP/etc, but I doubt we'll see an influx of new ROMs because of it.
The One X been out longer and it's also available in more locations around the world. That's why it has more ROMs.
SoraX64 said:
What does kernel source have to do with ROM releases? We'll see a couple of kernels here and there and perhaps some fixes in CM9/MIUI/AOKP/etc, but I doubt we'll see an influx of new ROMs because of it.
The One X been out longer and it's also available in more locations around the world. That's why it has more ROMs.
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I feel like with kernel source Devs will end up cooking up more stable kernels and with that we'll probably end up seeing alot more ported Roms and AOSP based Roms. I'm just going off of my experiences with my past devices
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HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
As previous One X great Devs found a way to move on development, sure X+ will have a lot of dev!
It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
slainbybeats said:
Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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Simple google search solved the problem.
http://m.intomobile.com/2012/10/05/lg-optimus-nexus-announcement-pegged-late-october/
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Torxx, are you sure it will be LG? Any sources?
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There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Not so much.
"Wow, that didn't take long. Only hours after the HTC One X+ was unveiled officially, we now know where U.S. consumers will have the chance to get it from. AT&T just announced that it will be the exclusive U.S. carrier to offer the HTC One X+ this fall."
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...uad-core-Tegra-3-and-LTE-are-on-board_id35105
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That's a shame. I would've loved this phone.
xboxfanj said:
There's a whole series of them apparently. The HTC one looks the best. 1080p quad core s4 5 inch screen (12.7cm) and 2gb ram. Very similar specs to the lg one, but it'll have sense themes in the customization center and perhaps other interesting features.
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Source, please?
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-droid-incredible-x-rumored-to-be-googles-nexus-5-20120925/
http://www.pc-tablet.com/7693-andro...on-center-project-roadrunner-enhanced-google/
Wtf is happening with htc? Eclipze and me have htc amazes, and you can ask anyone that owns that phone, development is a pain
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Well the profits speak volumes. They're simply not retaining userbase.
torxx said:
It's not a big improvement against the One X (international) though, but after the new Nexus will be a LG, I will maybe even buy this device as my next phone and will do some stuff for it..
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LG is not that good name over on xda, as the support and software was crap. But most off times the hardware in Lg phones is damn nice and new tech so with google behind and no locked crap it might be a intressting phone.
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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Lame.
lazarat said:
Lame.
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So is your thanks meter....
Just giving my 2 cents on the matter
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EclipzeRemix said:
HTC does a really bad job with sources, some of us already know that.
Some things you might want to know
1- the One X+ Can not flash a custom rom with its boot loader locked, unless of course there an S OFF method, but that's a low possibility. In other words HTC in some cases takes its time to release a boot loader unlock method. Usually they do a good job with this. What they suck at is giving Kernel sources. We won't see a custom kernel until December if the device was released in October
2- Its hard to do ports based of sense, so development could go for the worst with very little to no source and playing around with sense is not really a walk in the park
The one x+ looks like a good device. Hopefully T Mobile picks it up over here in the US soon.
Just giving a heads up.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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So you're saying for someone like me who buys phones to slap CyanogenMod on, I should expect poor results with the One X+? I will avoid then.
However, does sharing Tegra 3 with the Nexus 7 benefit the One series any? Did the One X get helped by the Nexus 7? I see this kinda like the SGS1 phones getting benefit from the Nexus S sharing SoC. The SGS2 is totally screwed as you know as it still lacks hwcomposer and stuff for CM10.
Yes I could get a Nexus, but sometimes I happen to like the design of non nexus phones more. The One X/X+ are truly sexy phones to me, and as long as they're decent to develop for I'd jump in.
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This could be possible but we are never sure, either way getting something like CM booting is only half the work, the real test is getting wifi, Bluetooth, GPS etc working without HTC releasing anything. The only way to get them working is work arounds. If you are a flashaholic that likes roms that are not based off stock then stay away.
If you like Sense then by all means get it
Yes totally screwed. Sammy can kiss my ***
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As someone who has an HTC flyer I must say, It saddens my to hear that HTC hardware isn't an option.
HTC has some aesthetically pleasing hardware and sense itself can be pretty nice. The tablet just feels great in your hands, and has a nice screen..
It absolutely sucks that HTC lets themselves get held back by poor sources.. I'm "ok" with my tablet not having the most up to date version constantly.. I didn't sign a contract for it.. but, I really don't want a phone that I'm locked into having for 2 years to be left out for no real good reason.
Still, I'd kill to see a smooth running JB rom that is factory quality on my flyer.
Thanks for the warning.
I have a Sensation and if it wasn't for CM this thing would have been in the garbage. I'm hoping to pick up one of these and I'm sure development work for it will eventually come around. It needs some time.
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it is just a question to see if there is still work and people developing the at&t version
i'm sadly saying this that i regret getting this phone, so much power yet limited development due to crappy manufacturer and carrier
Sure there is.
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ive had this phone since december and ive been following it...just recently flashed the viper rom and am pretty happy with the performance. As for AOSP and such development, it got pretty close before the dev had to abandon the device because it was taking too much of his time. hopefully the dev he sent the phone to can figure it all out soon, and hopefully if we get the Sense 5, 4.2.2 update it will help!
I bought this phone after "Exploring" the Windows Lumina phones. And STILL bought a Nexus 4 because of the development. I agree, hopefully there will be a Dev who will show mercy on us AT&T customers and port Sense 5 and 4.2. to our beloved and much hated AT&T HTC One X+ . Even though I don't use the X+ much I still check the 2 roms out there for us and use them daily for a week or two. I miss Sense *Hint Hint*
As far as I know, Steve is the only one who's been working on it. Turge has been working on the one and lloir shipped his off to a new dev but I haven't heard any updates about that but his team is still making progress on aosp
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I was searching the internet when I came across this on Reddit. Should we look forward to seeing Official kitkat on our devices or just turn our head away from now? What are your opinions?
"To address an issue that’s top of mind for many folks here, we recently announced that we wouldn’t be updating the HTC One X and One X+ beyond Android 4.2. Without the support of our chip manufacturer Nvidia, it made a global update of One X and X+ devices impossible. However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
Source http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/
If they decide to selectively update the Qualcomm versions of One X (the AT&T one and probably the One XL) they'd only create even more disappointment and rage amongst users. Sure, the ones getting the update will be happy.
And about the X+, none of the devices would get the update, because all versions of the X+ use the Nvidia chipset.
Tegra 3
What I don't get is that how can we still have Android 4.3/4.4 roms for the One X+ yet HTC says they can't develop roms because Nvidia no longer supports this chipset.
The main issue is the kernel and drivers . in most cases these have been back ported from 4.3 so although they work its not optimum
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Sorry to disappoint you guys
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Wow they seem really unorganized, posting two opposite statements both concerning the same topic at almost the same time..
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Tazmaniiac said:
Wow they seem really unorganized, posting two opposite statements both concerning the same topic at almost the same time..
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They didnt teh statement read
"However, in US the One X uses the Qualcomm chip and an upgrade would be possible, but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+. This update caused a huge stir amongst owners and we’ve heard you loud and clear, so we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
So they never said the Nvidia powered devices where being looked at. If we want updates we should be pestering Nvidia to continue tegra3 support
As far as I understood it they meant that an update to 4.3 would only be possible on the OneX, that's why the try to find a way to update to 4.4 on both devices.
Otherwise it would be pointless to say that they don't want to update the OneX, but still wanting to find a way to update to KitKat..
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Lets's see if HTC will suprise us in a positve way.
It only concerns the Qualcomm version of the One X. The HOX+ will not be updated, the Tegra 3 variant is not supported by Nvidia. And of course, HTC did not think to pressure them to offer support, so...
Why are people getting angry about the phone being discontinued? A new update could mean a new HBOOT and new touch firmware a patches for things that we have exploited for our ROMS. Look at the 3.18 update.
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Drippler has a article now that seems to state HTC is reconsidering to update to kitkat for one x and one x+.
One other gem from this AMA, which will have HTC One X and One X+ owners very happy, is that HTC is now reconsidering updating these phones to Android KitKat. This is a pretty big backflip considering HTC came out and officially said that the phone would not be supported past Android 4.2.2, but I think we can all agree this change a good thing.
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http://androidspin.com/2014/02/14/h...nsidering-update-htc-one-x/#readsoruce_bottom
I think we should just sit back and wait...
HTC's rep and sales has gone sideways, so in my opinion, well.... Pretty much said.
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panpjp said:
I think we should just sit back and wait...
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Exactly. I see that the update thing went during the reddit session many times. I think they realize we are unhappy with this decision and maybe they will try to talk with nvidia about that.
Sweet dreams.
phikal said:
Drippler has a article now that seems to state HTC is reconsidering to update to kitkat for one x and one x+.
http://androidspin.com/2014/02/14/h...nsidering-update-htc-one-x/#readsoruce_bottom
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Its the same source as the rest of the news so i think its just taken out of context. My reading of what was said is its just the Qualcomm handsets that are being revisited as nvidia have dropped open support for the tegra3
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Yes, only the US (Qualcomm) version of the One X is being investigated for an update.
And if you look through the comments, you will see that HTC responded loud and clear:
"For the HTC One X in the US (diff chipset than global version), we’re now actively exploring how we can make the jump to 4.4."
HERE is the link for this.
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Why are people getting angry about the phone being discontinued? A new update could mean a new HBOOT and new touch firmware a patches for things that we have exploited for our ROMS. Look at the 3.18 update.
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From my knowledge, we didn't exploit anything as per say. With the new HBoot you just have to unlock the bootloader which is a service provided by HTC itself and flash a recovery which is a job for our devs which shouldn't take a while to find a solution to. What you said would be an issue if it was S-Offed or close to an S-Off so the update might cause a threat to that exploit but seeing as this didn't happen/not close to happening I dont think thats a problem.
I honestly am not in a hurry to get a new phone since I know that my HOX+ is good for me, however I would be quite happy if we can have access to sense 5.5 with the kitkat features. I like blinkfeed and with the options found on the One I think i will love it more.
YAY! Guess what I just bought?!
Not really bothered about not getting a KitKat update even though it would be nice, because I don't want it being bogged down by sense.
I'll have a look at what's available homebrewed on here and continually moan about it on Elevate
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YAY! Guess what I just bought?!
Not really bothered about not getting a KitKat update even though it would be nice, because I don't want it being bogged down by sense.
I'll have a look at what's available homebrewed on here and continually moan about it on Elevate
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I've given up moaning on elevate..
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Lloir said:
I've given up moaning on elevate..
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NEVER give up moaning, even if it gets you nowhere.... Doesn't do women any harm anyway