[Q] Best route for decent optimization and stability? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone, I recently aquired a 10.1 tab and was wondering would it be best to root it and clean up the samsung junk to speed it up? Or would it be more ideal to flash it with a stable and tested rom?
The reason Im asking is, I heard aboutslight issues running JB on this device such as screen flickering, I was wondering just how bad this is and if JB is full of slight graphical glitches like this because of not being compatible with this device?
Hopefully i didnt ask too many questions,thanks everyone and have a good morning!

Nah, the screen flickering happens from time to time, not very frequent. IMO, you should upgrade to JB asap because it is more stable.
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rooting it is definitely a must because its fast, pretty easy, and really makes the device better by getting rid of the bloatware and gives you the ability to run root only apps. But, you'll still be on TOUCHWIZ Android 4.0.4.
So I would also definitely flash a custom rom. CM 10.1 is pretty stable even though it is only on nightlies. the only problems I encounter are that occasional screen flicker (not a big deal), and a small sound issue (volume is sometimes too low). Also google now works, but you have to disable the hotwording feature, which is something I dont use anyway.
I haven't tried any other custom roms, but all of them are packed with features and give you a lot of options. Plus, at least with CM 10.1, it is super smooth and really gives new life to a device that's over two years old, makes it pretty much run like now. I would take my rooted, CM 10.1 Two year old Galaxy Tab over a new Ipad.

Sounds like the issues facing it are minor at best. The volume issue slightly concerns me, has this been a long term issue?
Under what conditions does screen flickering happen? Is it random? When movement is ocuring?
The level of consistency in the development of CM and everything everyone has told me about it I would be foolish to pass it up.
Still interested in hearing more opinions and info, but I will say this makes deciding much easier. I hope for a set of newbie questions this isnt presented in an uncaring and disrespectable way. :good:

I also forgot to mention im going to be traveling with this tablet, would not being able to update the rom present any major issues if i cant update it for amonth or two at a time?

androidcortex said:
Sounds like the issues facing it are minor at best. The volume issue slightly concerns me, has this been a long term issue?
Under what conditions does screen flickering happen? Is it random? When movement is ocuring?
The level of consistency in the development of CM and everything everyone has told me about it I would be foolish to pass it up.
Still interested in hearing more opinions and info, but I will say this makes deciding much easier. I hope for a set of newbie questions this isnt presented in an uncaring and disrespectable way. :good:
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For me, the screen flickering happens when my tab freezes because of low ram. I solve the volume issue by installing ViPER4Android. It is a sound mod that improves sound quality and volume. Another way is install voodoo app from play store. There is one more thing you should know, YouTube won't be as smooth as in Honeycomb. Videos will stutter sometimes, but I think that is fine.
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For me, the screen flickering happens when my tab freezes because of low ram
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But you said you are using Supercharger?
Is this even with SC happening?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342162

lordofazeroth said:
But you said you are using Supercharger?
Is this even with SC happening?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342162
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This was without supercharger...
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This was without supercharger...
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well since my last post I've installed cm 10.1. its running quite nicely. still getting around a couple if kinks here and there such as the lock screen widget for google music player flickers after a certain amount of time. I was wondering if this is why apollo was inckuded as a standard music player?
over all im definitely enjoying this. over all it is a ridiculous amount faster and feels so much snappier, truly taking advantage of the hardware. definitely loving it.
was also wonding what or if there is a safe over clock level for this tablet?
edit:I also had an issue with wifi, the icon will go grey and the internet acts unresponsive. turning off the wifi and turning it back on fixes it but I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this?

androidcortex said:
well since my last post I've installed cm 10.1. its running quite nicely. still getting around a couple if kinks here and there such as the lock screen widget for google music player flickers after a certain amount of time. I was wondering if this is why apollo was inckuded as a standard music player?
over all im definitely enjoying this. over all it is a ridiculous amount faster and feels so much snappier, truly taking advantage of the hardware. definitely loving it.
was also wonding what or if there is a safe over clock level for this tablet?
edit:I also had an issue with wifi, the icon will go grey and the internet acts unresponsive. turning off the wifi and turning it back on fixes it but I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this?
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The highest you can go is 1.4ghz. If you flash A1 kernel, it can go up to 1.6, but it is extremely unstable. About the WiFi issue, you might wanna post that in the dedicated cm10.1 thread for more help since I'm not running cm10.1.
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I have a P7500 currently with the Carbon CM10.1/SGT7 ROM running 4.2.2 combined with the A1 V1.9 kernal to fix some charging bugs, very stable..... and those screen flickers arn't bad maybe a tenth of a second, I've tried quite a few of the Roms available and their is a lot of good options depending on what you want from the tablet.

Th3_Ace said:
I have a P7500 currently with the Carbon CM10.1/SGT7 ROM running 4.2.2 combined with the A1 V1.9 kernal to fix some charging bugs, very stable..... and those screen flickers arn't bad maybe a tenth of a second, I've tried quite a few of the Roms available and their is a lot of good options depending on what you want from the tablet.
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What Carbon CM10.1/SGT7? CarbonROM or CM10.1/SGT7?
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cant post in developer threads yet. very much considering flashing the latest infamous rom. been reading nice things about it. what do you guys think? if these jb roms keep giving me issues, are the 4.04 mods really nice still? and are they still supported or updated? or are they considered stable by now?
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thanks again to all the people who have replied so far and to all the developers at xda. i greatly appreciate it.
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any recommendations on what image I should try next?
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[Q] Question about possible lag

Currently I have a Desire HD and overall Im very happy with it. However, whenever its updating itself ie weather, friend stream etc, in the background, there is noticeable lag in using the phone.
My question is, does this also happen with the SGS2? Im contemplating buying it if this phone has no such issue which my DHD does as its the only real blemish on a very good phone.
I know there are differences with sense vs touch wiz but Im sure there are equivalent widgets etc which also update in the background.
cheers
Probably some Femto or Atto lag.
Intratech said:
Probably some Femto or Atto lag.
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Sorry, what?
Well maybe I was a bit harsh is describing the lag, it's more like Yocto lag.
i had some kind of lag in my old DHD, Was annoying tbh even flashing many roms it just didnt seem right so i moved on to better things (iphone4) and didnt look bk lol. i hope the SGS2 doesnt, from reveiws and people on here that have them it seems to work great!
vimto25 said:
i had some kind of lag in my old DHD, Was annoying tbh even flashing many roms it just didnt seem right so i moved on to better things (iphone4) and didnt look bk lol. i hope the SGS2 doesnt, from reveiws and people on here that have them it seems to work great!
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Hopefully when you receive your new SGS2 you can report back on whether you encountered the same sort of lag as you noticed on your DHD . I only noticed the lag whenever I saw the little update icon appear in the top row of icons.
I'm writing from my SGS2. There is NO lag on this phone. Too fast, too furious dual core at 1.2ghz.what do you expect.the hardware is ahead of the software. NO lag even under heavy duty.
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kauka187 said:
Hopefully when you receive your new SGS2 you can report back on whether you encountered the same sort of lag as you noticed on your DHD . I only noticed the lag whenever I saw the little update icon appear in the top row of icons.
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I'm trying to tell you there is no lag but it seems as if your geek level is too low to understand.
kauka187 said:
Hopefully when you receive your new SGS2 you can report back on whether you encountered the same sort of lag as you noticed on your DHD . I only noticed the lag whenever I saw the little update icon appear in the top row of icons.
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i thought it was just the sence they use on the htc, kinda put me of htc phones even tho i like the sence with the clock and freind stream ect..
a67543210 said:
I'm writing from my SGS2. There is NO lag on this phone. Too fast, too furious dual core at 1.2ghz.what do you expect.the hardware is ahead of the software. NO lag even under heavy duty.
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True there's no lag wat so ever. Its never stalled on me on anything from web browsing to apps like the i player.. No **** its too fast.
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Intratech said:
I'm trying to tell you there is no lag but it seems as if your geek level is too low to understand.
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Haha, fair enough. However, it was just that looking at your sig it seemed you hadnt yet received your SGS2 and also considering you used to have a DHD such as I, I was hoping for your personal opinion.
I had gathered from many a post that it is blazingly fast, but just saying its fast is very subjective.
Anyways, so far it looks like its a winner and Im gonna need to buy one!

[Q] LOW performance on Galaxy S3!

Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing this, or does anyone have a solution?
For some reason i'm not expereincing the full thrust of performance the Galaxy S3 has to offer.
The home screens 'jolt' when moving left to right, but the more annoying thing is that widgets (like the weather etc) KEEP disappearing and reloading (doesnt take long to reload, fine, but still! Galaxy S2 didnt do this!)
This was all noticiable in the 'TouchWiz' Launcher, so i thought i would try another launcher... Nope, same thing!! Apex, Launcher Pro, GO Launcher etc..
Also, some apps crash, more than the occasional crash you would experience on the S2.
It also freezes up on my for about 10 seconds before reloading the widgets/icons...
I've gone down SO many routes. Its definetly not that theres too much running, because i find myself closing apps through task manager ALL the time, more than i should need to ...But even with NO apps running, same thing
I just dont get, does anyone have a solution or could shed some light on WHY this is happening? I've hit a brick wall for trying to stop this and am hoping that its not just a 'dodgy device'!
Thank you to whoever responds...
Def sounds like a dud there. Try going into Apex launcher and tick the setting to keep the launcher in ram. Ive heard loads of problems about TW reloading itself after running things like the web browser and gaming :/
Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
avetny said:
Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
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Shouldn't NEED to be flashing anything, mine was sheer awesome out of the box.
All I've done was flash the insecure kernel... which is the same just adb etc. enabled, and rooted.
avetny said:
Dude just flash custom rom....or latest stock rom.
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Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
AndyGalaxy said:
Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
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yes
AndyGalaxy said:
Does the Omega 4.0 ROM work on the o2 Network?
Apologies if this is a dumb question :/
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Networks do not matter with custom ROMs, as long as you are flashing a ROM for the right phone i.e. the international version, and not the north american version. (which you don't need to worry about yet because it's not out yet)
Check if you have Power Saving turned off. It throttles the CPU making scrolling etc noticeably slower.
Mine loads the weather widget coming out of S-Voice. But other than that never misses a beat. Smooth even when using 90% of its ram.
Did a test of its speed and its above the Asus prime easy, so sounds like you have an issue.
AndyGalaxy said:
Hi,
Is anyone else experiencing this, or does anyone have a solution?
For some reason i'm not expereincing the full thrust of performance the Galaxy S3 has to offer.
The home screens 'jolt' when moving left to right, but the more annoying thing is that widgets (like the weather etc) KEEP disappearing and reloading (doesnt take long to reload, fine, but still! Galaxy S2 didnt do this!)
This was all noticiable in the 'TouchWiz' Launcher, so i thought i would try another launcher... Nope, same thing!! Apex, Launcher Pro, GO Launcher etc..
Also, some apps crash, more than the occasional crash you would experience on the S2.
It also freezes up on my for about 10 seconds before reloading the widgets/icons...
I've gone down SO many routes. Its definetly not that theres too much running, because i find myself closing apps through task manager ALL the time, more than i should need to ...But even with NO apps running, same thing
I just dont get, does anyone have a solution or could shed some light on WHY this is happening? I've hit a brick wall for trying to stop this and am hoping that its not just a 'dodgy device'!
Thank you to whoever responds...
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Similar issue with my phone... through I have not yet copied my songs and data... but exactly the similar problem...
same here
Man same thing here - only been 4 days since i bought my gs3 and i'm having issues.. i was running a benchmark when i saw cpu it said 1000MHz and max cycles 1400MHz i think we got a gs3 without exynos system - like they did with galaxy s2 had the i9100G model. Of tjis is the case and i find out i'm gonna spend any ounce of energy i have getting it replaced. The worst thibg is the browser cant handle videos on youtube. Performance is pathetic and weirdest tthibg i didnt have flipboard pre loaded on my gs3. Even now im on my gs3 and the browser wont let me fix "thing" that i wrote in the previous sentence. Totally shud have gotten htc one x
you all can flash latest version which should help with launcher redraw ... and after that do a full hard reset: *2767*3855#
poke82465 said:
Man same thing here - only been 4 days since i bought my gs3 and i'm having issues.. i was running a benchmark when i saw cpu it said 1000MHz and max cycles 1400MHz i think we got a gs3 without exynos system - like they did with galaxy s2 had the i9100G model. Of tjis is the case and i find out i'm gonna spend any ounce of energy i have getting it replaced. The worst thibg is the browser cant handle videos on youtube. Performance is pathetic and weirdest tthibg i didnt have flipboard pre loaded on my gs3. Even now im on my gs3 and the browser wont let me fix "thing" that i wrote in the previous sentence. Totally shud have gotten htc one x
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I'm not having these issues. YouTube in browser is fast and no problems editing.
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Not having any issues. Suggest you uninstall apps and track down what's causing you pain or take it back. There is nothing wrong with this phone. If you are having slow performance obviously a quad core phone may I suggest an iphone.
Yeah I'm being a prick but common sense and a bit of troubleshooting will teach you a life skill.
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This did the trick for me. Also upgrading your firmware would also help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27476986&postcount=39
Edit: phone is now running sweet with above patch and WanamLite, but will give Omega a try soon.
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Same for me
The thing is that a big company that is trying to resemble other competitors cant release a product that will act that way and call it their flag ship.... Most of the owners wont twik it. the phone its a big draw back for me and disappointment... Really miss my s2 some times. Its one thing to pile new features wether they work or not and make the product worse than its predecessor. Big big disappointment. Happy with the screen, battery and looks though will wait for a proper Rom or Google clean products that are to come.
aninim said:
The thing is that a big company that is trying to resemble other competitors can release a product that will act that way and call it their flag ship.... Most of the owners wont twik.ittwik.its a the phone its a big draw back for me and disappointment... Really miss my s2 some times. Its one thing to pile new features wether they work or not and make the product word than its predecessor. Big big disappointment. Happy with the screen, battery and looks though will wait for a proper Rom or Google clean products that are to come.
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Your S2 has had a years worth of development and optimization. I bet you'll say the same about your S3 when we're all using the S4.
I completely agree with the guy. My most common activity on my phone is browsing whilst listening to music, and this phone just can't hack it. Waaaay too regular cut outs, I'm pissed off.
Remove all bloatware and corresponding background services, get a good kernel (Franco r5 is great), you'll find phone is much better, in a few months, it will have moved on loads and will be so much better
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Yall are the odd ones out then. my phone was actually VERY VERY good at multi tasking out of the box. i could surf the web, play my music, and watch a movie with super video....and never get redraws, or hickups, leave apps open and keep going......i could not get it to do any lagging unless you speaking of the micro stutter in home screens. which is gone now with a custom rom and a few misc things here and there.
yall seem to keep wanting to blame it on the phone.....i dont quite understand this.

New to the TF201 Unlocked crowd

Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
TF201
ddarvish said:
Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
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I used a JB rom that worked very well, but BT audio streaming didnt work. It would pair, but not push the audio.
A full list of roms here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523719
ddarvish said:
Hey, so i have been a tf201 owner sinc jan but after several rma's and etc the tablet still isnt where it should be in terms of performance and stability and so i said **** the warranty since it wasnt doing **** for me anyway and unlocked the bootloader. since i am a lil late to the game, what roms are considered the cream of the crop for this device right now? i would appreciate if you could list the rom and then why you think it is the best and possibly where you think it may come short if there are any downfalls...
thanks
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Seems to me that now is the time to wait a bit longer before going with a Custom Rom. The Asus 4.1 update is probably only a few weeks away and once the developers have that to work with the custom crowd will improve rapidly. So far, every time I read about a 4.1 ROM, it comes with a list of the things that are not working yet. So you will probably get a fully functional JB ROM from Asus first.
ratman6161 said:
Seems to me that now is the time to wait a bit longer before going with a Custom Rom. The Asus 4.1 update is probably only a few weeks away and once the developers have that to work with the custom crowd will improve rapidly. So far, every time I read about a 4.1 ROM, it comes with a list of the things that are not working yet. So you will probably get a fully functional JB ROM from Asus first.
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thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
ddarvish said:
thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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AndroWook Prime 2.1
nnjwy said:
AndroWook Prime 2.1
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I agree even though it's discontinued. Install it with the cayenne overclock. Rubs quickly and few if any force closes.
Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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apd said:
Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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is the cm10 unofficial uses JB already? i think i will try this ROM if androwook wont move up, so disappointing really... Thanks for the heads up..
apd said:
I agree even though it's discontinued. Install it with the cayenne overclock. Rubs quickly and few if any force closes.
Alternatively try the cm10 unofficial worth no cherry picks. It is unbelievably smooth and fast.
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Virtuous is another solid ICS choice. I think it is still in development/supported. That said, I'm currently running AW2.1, too. I'm not looking to be on the cutting edge right now, I need a daily driver. I will probably go CM10 or with a modded stock ROM after the ASUS JB update drops. I'm really looking forward to JB.
Honestly I think ICS has been a BIG part of the problem for the Prime. Its image had already been tarnished with the hardware issues but the crashes and instability are much worse from a daily use standpoint. I got mine in January too and it was much more stable for me prior to ICS, the most recent build (.28) in fact has been a complete wreck on my device (I even wiped it and reinstalled .28 to try to get it going properly) and is what prompted me to unlock. Really, the hardware has been no problem on mine. The GPS is dead, but I actually knew it probably would be going in so it is not a biggie and my WiFi and BT are really no problem, Cameras are fine, etc. But not being able to basic things like web browsing and running GMail without crashing were a deal breaker.
I still get occasional reboots/flakiness with AW2.1 but it is based on ASUS ICS. I'm really hopeful for JB, as I mentioned since they seemed to have got it righ t on the N7.
Wifi
I just finished installing CM10 preview. I have been running it on my SIII for a couple days now and really like it. I'll report back in a few days with an update about the Prime running it.
I also ran into a problem getting wifi to work on any JB based ROM, going to the advanced tab in CWM and fixing permissions seemed to clear the problem up. Thought I would pass this info along, I couldn't find anybody reporting similar issues.
Ive been running JM CM10 Preview no cheery picks and every version gets better. it is a complete daily driver if you dont need Bluetooth streaming or NTFS support.
i haven't had any browser force closes, i can actually install multiple playstore apps at once and still use the playstore with out getting "playstore is not responding do you want to wait"
its fast and clean.
since Asus pretty much uses stock AOSP roms anyways, and the CM10 JB Preview is pretty much AOSP then I would wait personally for the Asus OTA for 4.1.
you get to keep your warranty and know that JB will resolve almost all the Force close issues wit browsers etc.
ddarvish said:
thanks for the two replies. i guess my question should have been what is the best ICS rom that is out in terms of stability and speed. i am tired of browser force closes.
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If the issue is the browser, why not just install Chrome on the stock ROM? Personally I have never really used the built in browser. I keep Dolphin around for the once in a while I need flash but otherwise use Chrome. Chrome is the default in 4.1 anyway.
Does the JB they will improve the wifi?
Increasing the signal?
Because I did not get one accessory that ASUS released.

[Q] Stable ICS for Atrix 4G - BOTTOM LINE

Hi,
I find the posted threads confusing. I'm looking to flash ICS on my dad's Atrix 4G as he needs it for an app he considers crucial . Unlike me, he isn't very interested in experimenting with any exciting ROMs; he needs his phone to function: on and off, sleep, text, call, bluetooth, browser, camera, maybe music, without issue.
Fingerprint reader is not critical.
Is there a ROM that is quite stable in all these areas? Posts seem to say yes, but they also seem to say that stable ICS/JB is not possible because of kernel issues.
What's the bottom line?? Please advise me.
Stable ICS? No such thing. Been said countless times already. I don't see what is so confusing about that. Despite enthusiastic feedback from people, no ICS/JB is actually stable enough for day-to-day usage. That's why pretty much all of them get quite frequent updates.
Does the app in question not work on GB?
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Stable ICS? No such thing. Been said countless times already. I don't see what is so confusing about that. Despite enthusiastic feedback from people, no ICS/JB is actually stable enough for day-to-day usage. That's why pretty much all of them get quite frequent updates.
Does the app in question not work on GB?
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It doesn't, no. Unless there's a way to have ICS runtime environment or st but that sounds impossible
And the confusion stems from claims like "..stable enough for a daily rom!" in comments I keep finding in specific ICS ROM threads. I'm sure that's the enthusiasm you're talking about lol.
I've been using epinter's jb 4.1.2 for months. video cam & fingerprint not working. everything else, including photo-cam, works. and let me tell my experience and you decide:
in normal use, the battery can last 2 days. and seldomly, kernel seems to wake the device, causing battery drain. problem ends after a reboot.
I call it a stable enough daily rom. but it'll be your decision.
leitlang said:
Hi,
I find the posted threads confusing. I'm looking to flash ICS on my dad's Atrix 4G as he needs it for an app he considers crucial . Unlike me, he isn't very interested in experimenting with any exciting ROMs; he needs his phone to function: on and off, sleep, text, call, bluetooth, browser, camera, maybe music, without issue.
Fingerprint reader is not critical.
Is there a ROM that is quite stable in all these areas? Posts seem to say yes, but they also seem to say that stable ICS/JB is not possible because of kernel issues.
What's the bottom line?? Please advise me.
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As the dev team threads have said, the ICS/JB kernel alpha release is immenint. It may be an alpha, but it may give you the results you're looking for if combo'd with an ICS or higher ROM. Current ROMs are stable to a point without the dev'd kernel. While i recommend waiting for a beta to be released, you're more than welcome to test out the alpha once its released while keeping the usual advisory warnings in mind. If you don't want to wait for the alpha, feel free to try one of the ICS ROMs, but be warned, camera issues and battery life issues are major areas to watch out for. These issues may be fixed by the dev'd kernel.
Personally i've been using Atrics v2.0 and epinter's CM 10.1. Both are good.
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saldirai said:
I've been using epinter's jb 4.1.2 for months. video cam & fingerprint not working. everything else, including photo-cam, works. and let me tell my experience and you decide:
in normal use, the battery can last 2 days. and seldomly, kernel seems to wake the device, causing battery drain. problem ends after a reboot.
I call it a stable enough daily rom. but it'll be your decision.
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The video cam, fingerprint, & force-wake are literally the only issues? Or just the most frequent ones? Bc that'd be awesome but if e.g. the phone part sometimes wont open or the text messaging force closes or similar issues exist then it may be a dealbreaker for him.
palmbeach05 said:
As the dev team threads have said, the ICS/JB kernel alpha release is immenint. It may be an alpha, but it may give you the results you're looking for if combo'd with an ICS or higher ROM. Current ROMs are stable to a point without the dev'd kernel. While i recommend waiting for a beta to be released, you're more than welcome to test out the alpha once its released while keeping the usual advisory warnings in mind. If you don't want to wait for the alpha, feel free to try one of the ICS ROMs, but be warned, camera issues and battery life issues are major areas to watch out for. These issues may be fixed by the dev'd kernel.
Personally i've been using Atrics v2.0 and epinter's CM 10.1. Both are good.
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Same question re epinters; additionally, re the kernel - would that simply reduce the problems associated with the ICS/JB roms or introduce its own set of issues?
I appreciate your time/ effort.
leitlang said:
The video cam, fingerprint, & force-wake are literally the only issues? Or just the most frequent ones? Bc that'd be awesome but if e.g. the phone part sometimes wont open or the text messaging force closes or similar issues exist then it may be a dealbreaker for him.
Same question re epinters; additionally, re the kernel - would that simply reduce the problems associated with the ICS/JB roms or introduce its own set of issues?
I appreciate your time/ effort.
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I don't have any experience with Epinter's CM10, but from what i just read, comparing it to 10.1, it has the same issues. I haven't had any issues with messaging via ROM messaging app or via Go SMS. The kernel is supposed to solve the problems. However, battery life seems to still be an issue from what I've been reading. They disabled the camera for testing on the battery issue at the moment. At the moment, CM9, 10, and 10.1 all are running on variations of the GB kernel. While it was tweaked enough to make each ROM stable, the full potential won't be reached until the new kernel is implemented
The CM ROMs, in my opinion, are stable enough for daily use. Its up to you which ROM you want to use. As far as the kernel goes, I'll be trying out the alpha once its released, but it would be wiser to wait on the beta.
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palmbeach05 said:
I don't have any experience with Epinter's CM10, but from what i just read, comparing it to 10.1, it has the same issues. I haven't had any issues with messaging via ROM messaging app or via Go SMS. The kernel is supposed to solve the problems. However, battery life seems to still be an issue from what I've been reading. They disabled the camera for testing on the battery issue at the moment. At the moment, CM9, 10, and 10.1 all are running on variations of the GB kernel. While it was tweaked enough to make each ROM stable, the full potential won't be reached until the new kernel is implemented
The CM ROMs, in my opinion, are stable enough for daily use. Its up to you which ROM you want to use. As far as the kernel goes, I'll be trying out the alpha once its released, but it would be wiser to wait on the beta.
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I agree with u man, Epinter's CM10 is great ROM and I had more issues with stock GB ROM than this. If u don't need video camera and fingerprint reader I recommend it to use CM10.
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leitlang said:
The video cam, fingerprint, & force-wake are literally the only issues? Or just the most frequent ones? Bc that'd be awesome but if e.g. the phone part sometimes wont open or the text messaging force closes or similar issues exist then it may be a dealbreaker for him.
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I have enough experience to say that these are literally the only issues i've had.
sms or phone or connection has never force-closed for me.
you might give it a try. it doesnt take so long to try and revert back.
saldirai said:
I have enough experience to say that these are literally the only issues i've had.
sms or phone or connection has never force-closed for me.
you might give it a try. it doesnt take so long to try and revert back.
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This is true, just remember to make a nandroid backup (webtop optional) prior to testing out any non stock ROM.
With my setup, i've got backups of 2.3.6's 141 and 145, 4.0.4, and 4.2.1, and if i'm doing a straight restore from one to another, roughly 20-30 mins until i'm back up and running.
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[Q] How to restore to HC?

Hi all!
Could you be so kind and help me revert back to honeycomb stock?
I know it sounds crazy, but I cant stand anymore how slow and laggy CM 10.1 I currently use is on this device. I've tried a lot of things like factory reset, reflushing lates nightly etc. Still horribly slow and at times totally unresponsive.
My ultimate goal is return back to task650 rom.
However I cannot find any HC stock images. I do not think that I can simply flush HC rom in CM 6.0.3.1 recovery.
I was only able to find hc-3.2_touchwiz_ux-full_sam_tab_10.1.zip from pershoot.
Please advise! Any help will be greatly appreciated!
CNemo7539 said:
Hi all!
Could you be so kind and help me revert back to honeycomb stock?
I know it sounds crazy, but I cant stand anymore how slow and laggy CM 10.1 I currently use is on this device. I've tried a lot of things like factory reset, reflushing lates nightly etc. Still horribly slow and at times totally unresponsive.
My ultimate goal is return back to task650 rom.
However I cannot find any HC stock images. I do not think that I can simply flush HC rom in CM 6.0.3.1 recovery.
I was only able to find hc-3.2_touchwiz_ux-full_sam_tab_10.1.zip from pershoot.
Please advise! Any help will be greatly appreciated!
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Not sure where to find an HC-image yet, but what about trying Omni-ROM 4.4.2 KitKat newest build (+ A1-Kernel)?
It still has got some quirks, like bluetooth-audio not working or slow Video-decoding, but the rest is quite good and fluid now.
Thanks for your reply! However we are talking about my wife tablet and she needs video/cameras and BT.
So, unfortunately KK is out consideration at this point.
By the way, is KK Omni really that better? Thought I guess anything is better then touching screen and seeing touch and then waiting a couple of seconds for an action to really happen. I do not know what Google changed in memory management, but it now doesn't hold a candle against older versions. At least for such old device as Tab 10.1 is.
If your wife doesn't need much features, go for Omni 4.3. Its very smooth and stable enough for daily use.
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Thanks for your reply! However we are talking about my wife tablet and she needs video/cameras and BT.
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Camera works; Bluetooth works also, just not streaming audio to a bluetooth-audio-device; Videos also work. Lokally stored seem to be better than streamed (YouTube, gameone, etc.)
So, unfortunately KK is out consideration at this point.
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Then... What about JellyBean3 (Android 4.3.1)?
I think most if not all you need is already compatible on that and it is a lot better in any case, thought.
By the way, is KK Omni really that better? Thought I guess anything is better then touching screen and seeing touch and then waiting a couple of seconds for an action to really happen. I do not know what Google changed in memory management, but it now doesn't hold a candle against older versions. At least for such old device as Tab 10.1 is.
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Even 4.1.2 cm10 was superior,... What do you think you can expect from a Kitkat-Build?
IMHO, yes it is, even with those little quirks...
...and not to be mean, but I really don't think any 4.2-build can be called stable... They all have heavy idle-times/"hangs" up to a minute, if you've got some CPU&IO-Load-Hungry apps installed and running...
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...and not to be mean, but I really don't think any 4.2-build can be called stable... They all have heavy idle-times/"hangs" up to a minute, if you've got some CPU&IO-Load-Hungry apps installed and running...
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Well... May be it is my bad luck... I do not remember any CM build of any version that was smooth as Task650 rom.
So, you suggest to try rollback to 4.1? I though they stopped development.
Wife use BT streaming... I just got her nice LG headphones.
I guess I softened the problem a little bit for now by removing all apps that create background services and account. FB, LinkIn etc.
It helped a little bit.
CNemo7539 said:
Well... May be it is my bad luck... I do not remember any CM build of any version that was smooth as Task650 rom.
So, you suggest to try rollback to 4.1? I though they stopped development.
Wife use BT streaming... I just got her nice LG headphones.
I guess I softened the problem a little bit for now by removing all apps that create background services and account. FB, LinkIn etc.
It helped a little bit.
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Nope. I think you should rather try a 4.3.x-based build.

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