Am I seeing things, or are they both exactly the same card????
Reason is, I am looking for a bigger card, not a stupidly fast class 10 that will have zero benefit in the HD2....currently got a 2gb card, but was going to upgrade to a 4gb, coz if i'm away for the day, be it fishing, or what ever else, I tend to ram my card full of video clips..so need more space.....but 29.99 for a 16gb seems VERY cheap and it's a good make, Sandisk...but surely i'm seeing things or there's some difference for RIPoff Warehouse to be over TWENTY QUID cheaper than Argos for exactly the same thing???
Can someone do me a favour and have a clicky on the links and confirm they are the same etc...seems to good to be true?!?!??
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Matt
Argos: 16GB SanDisk microSDHC £51.05
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5467332/Trail/searchtext>SD+CARD.htm
Carphone Warehouse:16GB SanDisk microSDHC £29.99
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/ph...sd-memory-cards/buy/SANDISK-MICROSD-16GB-CARD
Several reasons most likely for the price difference, CPW probably buys more so can negotiate a lower price, also CPW customers are more likely to be tech-savvy and shop around online for the best deal (this is why PCW/DSG would scan the web for similar products and reduce their prices to £1 less).
Argos has a reputation for over pricing some of it's things, actually a few years back it had a reputation for over pricing all of it's things, and then before that for being cheap and cheerful.
Try this:
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDH...6GB-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card-Class-4-(Inc-Adapter)
£17 for a real 16GB is good value, even if is only Class 4
I got my class 10 card at fry's electronics for 29.99 us
16g by the way
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At first samsung mentioned, about the availability of 2 models, 16 and 32gb versions. Then slowly over time, i stopped even hearing about the 32gb model. is it possible the 32gb model is cancelled or maybe delayed?
Who knows they increased the cpu to 1.2ghz so people dont complain about the lack of 32gb variant. Anyone can chime in.
It's still listed on their Samsung Galaxy SII microsite, even after they updated the photow last week. I have no doubt that you will see a 32gb variant though it is looking to be that the 16gb will be out first.
open1your1eyes0 said:
It's still listed on their Samsung Galaxy SII microsite, even after they updated the photow last week. I have no doubt that you will see a 32gb variant though it is looking to be that the 16gb will be out first.
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I would go further and guess the 32 GB version will be released the day iPhone5 is released.
I'm pretty sure the 32gb is still in the minds of Samsung. Guess its safe to play safe and wait 'till June when the iP5 comes out.
I wonder if the 16GB is costing this much, what will the 32GB version cost.
Perhaps like Apple, they will add another $100.00 to the price tag.
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A lot of people are speculating that iPhone 5 won't be out until September...
Then I think this would be a perfect time for Samsung to push out the 32GB version in the market in July, to capture those customers who have not purchased the 16GB version. I am sure the price will be reduced to match the cost set at launch of the 16GB version.
Hello every one I bought dell streak 5 but I found my internal memory is 2 GB not 16 GB
I read in gsm arena the dell streak5 have 16 GiGA storage is that is right? plz anyone tell me
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16gb is the default external MicroSD memory card... The internal doesn't change from the 2gb
I read on gsm arena the internal is 16 gb and external micro sd up to 32 u can go to gsm arena and see what about dell streak 5
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Gsm arena is incorrect then. Radimus is right. 2gb internal, 16gb external.
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I read on GSM Arena the internal MicroSD is 16GB and the external MicroSD can go up to 32GB. You can go to GSM Arean and see what they have to say about the Dell Streak 5.
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I believe if you had searched a bit more diligently on Google you would have found these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Streak
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/dell-streak-16gb-at/4507-3126_7-34117657.html
Both articles note the internal MicroSD as being approximately 2GB in size. The people at this forum will all point this out, and point out the even more obvious fact: GSM Arena is wrong. Now, it IS possible to change out the internal MicroSD for a larger one, but to do so you have to be willing to forego whatever warranty you have remaining on the Streak.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe if you had searched a bit more diligently on Google you would have found these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Streak
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/dell-streak-16gb-at/4507-3126_7-34117657.html
Both articles note the internal MicroSD as being approximately 2GB in size. The people at this forum will all point this out, and point out the even more obvious fact: GSM Arena is wrong. Now, it IS possible to change out the internal MicroSD for a larger one, but to do so you have to be willing to forego whatever warranty you have remaining on the Streak.
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So what is the difference between the 16GB version and the 32GB version? Can the 16GB version not handle a 32GB external microSD card?
I also thought, when purchasing, that the 32GB referred to internal memory. After a few months of downloading apps telling me that the internal memory was only 1.6 GB, I chalked it up as the software being too new and not reading the phone's data correctly. I even called dell to inquire and the reps told me that the phone's system memory takes up a lot of the space but it should be 32 GB total. Anyone else who feels misled, please PM me. My wife is an attorney in CA and I am hoping to lead a class-action lawsuit against Dell, representing all Streak purchasers (16 & 32 GB versions) for false advertising and breach of contract (warranty of merchantability and for use for a particular purpose). I can't check now because the streak has been discontinued but I'm pretty sure the dell websites did not say the phone had only 1.6 or 2 GB of internal memory. I'm pretty attentive to detail and it should not be a consumer's job to go somewhere other than the point of purchase to inquire about the product when the point of purchase is the DAMN MANUFACTURER.
I sued dell in the past when I bought a 64 bit computer that came with Windows Vista 32 bit. I clicked through all of the related Dell product web pages and there was no mention of any 32 bit component; the sites only described the computer as coming with Genuine Microsoft Windows Vista. I spoke with Microsoft about an upgrade... who said contact the OEM; after repeated calls to dell, got nothing. One phone representative in India the phone even went so far as to say that my computer would be faster running the 32 bit OS.
After seeing the suit, Dell sent me a $200 check as a settlement (that was what I had requested... the cost of Windows Vista 64 bit at the time).
To Reiterate: What is the difference between the 16GB and 32GB streak 5s? and contact me via PM if you are pissed about not knowing and feel they cheated you out of extra money (in my case it was an extra $100 for the 32GB version).
Absolutely nothing, only the size of the external memory card they bundled with it.
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So what is the difference between the 16GB version and the 32GB version?
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Tongue-in-cheek answer: $99.
The serious answer: As Manii said, there is no difference except for the size of MicroSD card installed in the user-replaceable memory slot. The 2GB referred to earlier in the thread is for the internal MicroSD card, which cannot be changed out by the user unless the warranty is expired or any warranty remaining is voided out.
As for your class action lawsuit, good luck with that. The Streak spec sheet is quite specific regarding the features:
Memory: 512MB ROM + 512MB SDRAM + 2GB non-user accessible MicroSD™ for system & applications files
Storage: 1 user accessible MicroSD™ card slot with support for up to 32GB cards
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Source: http://shop.it.ee/Specid/Latitude/Streak.pdf
Now, I purchased my Streak in April of 2011, while it was still available for purchase on Dell's website. At that time, the spec sheet linked above was available on their site. So one of two possibilities exist here:
1. You didn't pay enough attention to the details.
2. You purchased your Streak after Dell discontinued it and removed the marketing materials from its site.
Regardless of whether it was either of these or a combination of the two, since Dell's marketing materials are quite specific as to what the Streak has in it, and even their blog entry on the Streak mentions the user-accessible MicroSD slot, I don't believe you have much of a case here.
If you were gonna sue them for stop supporting the streak or done a piss poor job while they did, or even for not releasing the source code.... I am all in for it.
Internal memory is not one of them as they were pretty clear about it upfront.
it's pretty hard for you to cash it in this time.
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So what is the difference between the 16GB version and the 32GB version? Can the 16GB version not handle a 32GB external microSD card?
I also thought, when purchasing, that the 32GB referred to internal memory. After a few months of downloading apps telling me that the internal memory was only 1.6 GB, I chalked it up as the software being too new and not reading the phone's data correctly. I even called dell to inquire and the reps told me that the phone's system memory takes up a lot of the space but it should be 32 GB total. Anyone else who feels misled, please PM me. My wife is an attorney in CA and I am hoping to lead a class-action lawsuit against Dell, representing all Streak purchasers (16 & 32 GB versions) for false advertising and breach of contract (warranty of merchantability and for use for a particular purpose). I can't check now because the streak has been discontinued but I'm pretty sure the dell websites did not say the phone had only 1.6 or 2 GB of internal memory. I'm pretty attentive to detail and it should not be a consumer's job to go somewhere other than the point of purchase to inquire about the product when the point of purchase is the DAMN MANUFACTURER.
I sued dell in the past when I bought a 64 bit computer that came with Windows Vista 32 bit. I clicked through all of the related Dell product web pages and there was no mention of any 32 bit component; the sites only described the computer as coming with Genuine Microsoft Windows Vista. I spoke with Microsoft about an upgrade... who said contact the OEM; after repeated calls to dell, got nothing. One phone representative in India the phone even went so far as to say that my computer would be faster running the 32 bit OS.
After seeing the suit, Dell sent me a $200 check as a settlement (that was what I had requested... the cost of Windows Vista 64 bit at the time).
To Reiterate: What is the difference between the 16GB and 32GB streak 5s? and contact me via PM if you are pissed about not knowing and feel they cheated you out of extra money (in my case it was an extra $100 for the 32GB version).
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Tongue-in-cheek answer: $99.
The serious answer: As Manii said, there is no difference except for the size of MicroSD card installed in the user-replaceable memory slot. The 2GB referred to earlier in the thread is for the internal MicroSD card, which cannot be changed out by the user unless the warranty is expired or any warranty remaining is voided out.
As for your class action lawsuit, good luck with that. The Streak spec sheet is quite specific regarding the features:
Source: http://shop.it.ee/Specid/Latitude/Streak.pdf
Now, I purchased my Streak in April of 2011, while it was still available for purchase on Dell's website. At that time, the spec sheet linked above was available on their site. So one of two possibilities exist here:
1. You didn't pay enough attention to the details.
2. You purchased your Streak after Dell discontinued it and removed the marketing materials from its site.
Regardless of whether it was either of these or a combination of the two, since Dell's marketing materials are quite specific as to what the Streak has in it, and even their blog entry on the Streak mentions the user-accessible MicroSD slot, I don't believe you have much of a case here.
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Well... that's a whole 'nother story. Since the pages I saw before purchase did not provide a link to that spec sheet, nor did the phone representative with whom I spoke clarify the issue.... so I actually bought a separate 32 GB SD card to ensure that I had one because I thought the 32 GB was internal memory.... so when my purchase arrived... I had 1 SD card... not the two y'all claim I perhaps should have gotten.
This calls for an email to customer support.
Regarding what the fellow said:
If you were gonna sue them for stop supporting the streak or done a piss poor job while they did, or even for not releasing the source code.... I am all in for it.
Internal memory is not one of them as they were pretty clear about it upfront...it's pretty hard for you to cash it in this time.
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None of those issues are false advertising or a breach of contract, from what I can tell. Selling a phone for an extra $100 with no difference from another phone that is cheaper while marking it as using double the memory... that is a breach of the standard warranties for use for a particular purpose or warranties of merchantability. Dell's purchase system is not like a windows installer... there is no fine print to click through... there was no information provided to most customers regarding the specific differences and their support staff also misinformed customers. There is something called a statute of limitations which means it is, in fact, not too late to cash in.
I reiterate... if anyone feels defrauded by Dell regarding the internal memory or claims regarding 16 GB or 32 GB capacities... please PM as I do plan to pursue this and hope to help as many people as possible.
Stop.
Just stop.
Breathe a moment, then listen.
The Streak has two MicroSD cards. One of them you cannot access unless you want to void your warranty. That is the non-user accessible card. The second card in a base model Streak is a 16GB MicroSD. That is the model I have. When you purchased the Streak through Dell, one of the optional accessories in the "customization phase" of the online sales process was a 32GB MicroSD card. That 32GB MicroSD at the time the Streaks were available was $99. Since the MicroSD was marketed as an accessory, your argument doesn't hold water. You have no case.
Further, Dell's literature says "up to 32GB" on the removeable MicroSD card. If Dell had given you no MicroSD card at all in the box you still would have no case even though the Streak isn't all that useful without the MicroSD card. The list of accessories included in the Streak box (user manual, English PDF, page 7) does not list a MicroSD card. The manual (PDF, page 13) mentions a 4th step in setting up the Streak: Install the MicroSD card. It and the Quick Start guide are in agreement in that they both provide instructions to insert a MicroSD card, but neither say "insert the included MicroSD card". Since neither source mentions an included MicroSD card, you're out of luck.
One last thing: this talk of launching class action lawsuits is pointless. Class action lawsuits benefit only one group of people: the lawyers. Even if you got enough people to create a class action and the judge let it go forward do you really think you're going to get what you're seeking? Dell will admit no wrongdoing and will set aside money to cover paying you and paying the lawyers. Out of those two groups of people, who is going to benefit the most?
The lawyers.
I agree with what you said, Mr alcoholic. The only issue is: what did the users who paid extra for the 32 GB version get for their money?
It sounds like some users got an SD card. I paid extra for the Sd Card on top of the extra i paid for the 32GB of nothing.
If i get $100 back, which was the extra i paid for the 32Gb version, i will be happy.
The reason i suggest class action is because, even if they sold only 1000 32gb streaks, they made $100,000 as a result of deceptive marketing (which, according to my original post, they have done before). Since that number is likely much higher, they really should learn a lesson.
Should i piss in a cup and Mark it "32Gb piss" because purchasers have an option of buying an extra sd card with the piss? And then, when they call to ask about it, explain that the piss proteins use up a lot of the internal memory?
That is essentially what Dell did.
If you are going to address me by name, at least cut and paste it into your post. Deliberately misspelling it and your general attitude in response to my post implies a weak argument.
Now, have you ever run through Dell's "configure to order" process? On a laptop, one of the available options is how much memory is available in the unit. You have two choices: 4 or 8gb. The selections are toggles. Selecting one deselects the other. The 4gb choice is the default, but if you want the 8gb option, the cost of the option is added to the cost of.the laptop. Let's say you went with the 8gb option and finished the transaction. When you get home you open the computer and see that you received exactly what you asked for: 8gb of memory. You do not get the 4gb of memory that comes standard and the 8gb of memory on top of it.
It is the same with the Streak memory card option. 16gb is the default, but for an additional $99 you can increase the available memory to 32gb. When you open the Streak box, you will find ONE card: a 32gb card in the box.
No one gets a 16gb card AND a 32gb card in an unopened Streak package. It will be one or the other. With that piece of information as well as the other information provided in this thread, a Dell lawyer should be able to make a convincing argument against granting class action status to your complaint.
One last thing: Dell's shipping manifest for each item they sell includes a breakdown, by Dell part number, of all the components that make up the product. If you purchased a new Streak from Dell it will tell you what size MicroSD you selected. If it shows a 32gb MicroSD and you only got 16gb, contact executive customer service via Michael Dell's email address because they are more helpful than the regular line. Otherwise suck it up and deal, because you got exactly what you ordered.
I have a really hard time expecting anything but a waste of time coming out of this, point: dell is a laptop manufacturer.
Rationale:
Laptops ALWAYs have the option of a fac installed HDD that is 2-10x more expensive then picking the smallest and buying a larger one yourself. (Ignoring sales/coupons/etc).
This is functionally the same thing, phones as a whole are always massively overpriced when it comes to bundled NANDs (in bundled memory cards or soldered directly on the board). If you're really good with your hands you could just as much buy something like an iphone (which has no external memory and multiple size nands) and remove and replace the nand for cheaper then the price of the bigger cap version.
It's always been a scam and wont change as storage cap is a really easy market number and general users equate that with it's price. Short of breaking this entire setup you wont get much traction as the entire industry works like this.
Pretty much the only way to avoid this for laptops is to buy a barebones one and furnish it yourself.
Phone equiv is to buy a phone that has an external sd and buy your own sd, like prev mentioned.
The 32gb one is worth more then $100 too btw, as it's $100 OVER the 16gb one, which means you're assuming it's free. I'm going to make up a number and say the 16gb one is worth $50 so a hypothetical cardless S5 should cost $150 less then one with a 32gb card bundled. These dont exist though, dell doesnt have a SKU that includes no card included (not intentionally)
As an aside: dell shouldnt have removed the product page for the S5/S7 when they stopped being sold for this very reason. Dell DOES have spec sheets still up for devices far older, this is like an exception. They should have merely removed the buy button and say it's no longer available (which is true for the s5 product page for some countries outside the US)
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If Dell had given you no MicroSD card at all in the box you still would have no case even though the Streak isn't all that useful without the MicroSD card. The list of accessories included in the Streak box (user manual, English PDF, page 7) does not list a MicroSD card.
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If he got no sdcard he has right to complain, as it bundles ONE card.
Doesnt mean he has any right to overreact though, $100 can nearly buy you THREE 32gb cards on your own. SanDisk 32GB Micro SDHC Flash Card Model SDSDQM-032G-B35N. That is in fact nearly identical to the bundled ones, dell uses sandisk class 4 cards in all their devices (S5/S7/V) (it could possibly be class 6, you can still buy TWO 32gb class 6's though regardless).
What he's implying towards is that you should have the right to sue a company when they sell something for more then another company, which is shinanigans, both the former and latter points.
Regardless of what he's implying he IS implying that he didnt do the research in thing or another, as who in their right mind would actually pick the 32gb one? It doesnt take more then 5 minutes of research to see that the 32gb one is a terrible deal short of using dell credit that is about to expire.
tl;dr: shinanigans
Well, my point is that Dell could have legally gotten away with not including a MicroSD since one wasn't mentioned in the materials available, and that there wasn't much he could do about it. It's not realistic and I knew that since the Streak does come with a card. But, you are absolutely correct in that he's overreacting. I was trying to be nice about it in saying he doesn't have a case, especially given that he claims his wife is a lawyer. She would in fact benefit greatly from a class action lawsuit.
I appreciate the debate guys, but the point was:
Dell called their two versions of the streak 5 "16 gb" and "32 gb", both of which were misleading. The "versions" were identical but were shipped with external sd cards which, as the poster above confirmed, was not mentioned by Dell in it's online sales materials.
A few people have made the argument that I should have done more research; to those people I say "shame on you". It should not be up to the consumer to read 3rd party materials because a company uses misleading advertising. One person said he saw a specs sheet on Dell's website; I did not see that sheet and cannot confirm a link to it was present on the day I made my purchase nor have I seen it afterwards on Dell's site except from your link.
To those who say Dell couldn't have gotten away with using illegal marketing practices I say "welcome to the real world". There is a reason you can still stay up late and see infomercials selling weight loss or penis extending pills (snake oil pills). The government agencies responsible for keeping companies in compliance with the law are overburdened; they are mainly the attorneys general ( the fda in the case of the pill salespeople) who only pursue cases after getting numerous complaints from consumers in their jurisdiction.
To summarize: I know I would have a case because I sued Dell about 5 years ago for selling a 64 bit computer with "Windows Vista" but omitting (from every page of the online sales material) that it was Windows Vista 32 BIT. It is misleading to sell a piece of hardware and say that it is 64 bit or 32 gb if, upon arrival, it can only utilize 32 BIT processing or 2gb of internal storage. Dell settled that case and sent me ~$200 in the form of a check...the cost of a 64 bit OS.
A reminder to those that say "if it were illegal, they couldn't get away with it"...in civil law, it is only illegal if somebody sues and wins; if you don't sue, they get away with it. By the way, I love getting checks in the mail when some strong-willed individuals pursued a class action and I am, unbeknownst to me, a member of the class. It allows me to put a check in the bank and know that companies I deal with are being regulated by consumers. I disagree that class actions only benefit the lawyers; I think they benefit everyone who gets a check and every future consumer because the company may think twice before performing the same or other actionable behaviors again.
Moreover, commenters forget that it was the original poster, me, and the content preparers at gsm arena who were misled by Dell's sales materials. If it were really so clear that the 16gb or 32 gb versions referred to external memory, then this thread would never have been created and we would not have had this discussion. Rather, 2 out of the 8 contributors to the thread were of the belief that the streak would come with 16 or 32gb of internal memory; at 25% in a fairly tech-savvy forum, I wonder at those who think Dell made the specs clear to general consumers.
This wasn't truly a debate since it was a contest of facts versus belief and emotion. Regardless, if you truly appreciated the "debate", you wouldn't have waited a year to mention it. Your tone in this post is quite bitter, even going so far as to reiterate your position from a year ago; one that is factually weak but emotionally charged. Based upon the tone in your post, the restatement of your position and beliefs as well as the lengthy delay in replying, things did not proceed as you anticipated and/or hoped for.
I'd encourage you not to post again on this thread, but the impression I have of you is of someone who feels they have to have the last word. Thus, you'll post again.
Called T-Mobile looking for the 32gb version of the SGS5. The only version is the 16gb for pre-order when I called. Does anyone have any info about the 32gb version being available from T-Mobile. I want this phone but not with only 16gb of int storage. I thought I had seen an article with the 32gb version being available for the US market. This is a joke as far as I am concerned, today's new phones need more than 16gb of int storage, IMO the phone shouldn't even be made with that little amount of storage. It costs pennies to add storage while under construction, 16gb is pathetic and after a very short time the phone will start getting laggy as hell. No Thanks, 32gb or I will have to go HTC One M8. I really like the Samsung products, I have the Note 3 and am very happy with it but always looking to go new.
I preordered at the store, telling them that I wanted the 64gb version. Ended up getting the 16gb shipped to me. Called 611 and asked about why the 64 wasn't sent and the rep said they don't have the 64 and have no current plans for it either. I called again later tonight and got the same answer from the 800 number.
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HTC? NOOOOOOO....if you want 32gb and worried about having enough RAM, go Note 3.... 3gigs of RAM. Nothing can touch it. I too am disappointed about the 16gb on the s5. It's a joke. Anyway, for the love of phones, don't go HTC. It's like going from a Mercedes to a Ford.
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I think Samsung is holding out for the rumored "Prime" version... that would explain the missing 32GB models on launch. If you look at their product release calendar June would be an opportune time to release such a product; and there is already a mystery galaxy device that benchmarks have popped up for that has 3GB of RAM and isn't the N4. We shall see....
Indeed, the prime "will" be awesome. Please let it be 3 gigs lol.
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Thanks, I guess I'll wait and maybe after a month the 32gb model will be available. One can only hope, I'm just a big Samsung fan. Have owned all the SGS and the Note 3. Love my Note 3 with 32gb of int storage. The phone is a beast. Really like the new look of the SGS5, more rectangular than the SGS4 and the finger scanner is a go. Thanks Again.
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Good stuff, hang in there. I'm also on the fence of going over to the Prime when it releases. I love the N3, by far the most powerful currently, but I miss having a phone sized phone. I do love the phablet though and it's hard to go away from the screens real estate. It's priceless...
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