What ROM do you use as your daily driver?
What do you like about it?
Whats your favorite feature?
Why? I'm just curious as to what your guy's bolts are runnin' on!
Feel free to post screen shots!
For me: Holo Zone Alpha 1, Holo theming, ability to change battery icon/text/location of text/percentage
I use mostly santod's deodexed and debloated ICS ROM. I love custom ROMs, but am unable to flash updates to them that may adversely affect text and calls due to responsibilities at work right now.
Besides that, I like unsense. It's lightweight, fast, and I like the AOSP elements of it.
Holo zone must be a ROM of yours that you're working on, haven't heard of it until now.
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I use mostly santod's deodexed and debloated ICS ROM. I love custom ROMs, but am unable to flash updates to them that may adversely affect text and calls due to responsibilities at work right now.
Besides that, I like unsense. It's lightweight, fast, and I like the AOSP elements of it.
Holo zone must be a ROM of yours that you're working on, haven't heard of it until now.
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I have tried unsense, it's pretty good, I'm just not a fan of the shiny blue theming. And yes, HoloZone it is a rom I am working on. I'm trying to make it more customizable by making Xposed framework modules for it; so far I have 4 different battery types: honeycomb, circlemod, and REVOlutionary (the same one that comes with unsense)
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I have tried unsense, it's pretty good, I'm just not a fan of the shiny blue theming. And yes, HoloZone it is a rom I am working on. I'm trying to make it more customizable by making Xposed framework modules for it; so far I have 4 different battery types: honeycomb, circlemod, and REVOlutionary (the same one that comes with unsense)
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That's an interesting project. The Xposed framework is part of many ROMs for other devices, but has yet to be included in a thunderbolt ROM AFAIK.
Unsense for me
Great lightness to it, snappy, smooth transitions, no heavy feeling
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I actually don't mind sense, but I feel like 3.6 for the bolt was a bit of a stretch in that the completely stock ICS update from April runs like a slug on this phone. I'm glad our remaining developers are cooking is what I'm saying.
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That's an interesting project. The Xposed framework is part of many ROMs for other devices, but has yet to be included in a thunderbolt ROM AFAIK.
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Actually Liquid has been working on his JB build for some time.
Myself and a few select others have been working along with him on his build, as well projects of our own, such as cm10.1 and a few others...
Jacob should know this as well, since he tested a few earlier on: that Liquid's JB build includes the Xposed Framework in it.
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Actually Liquid has been working on his JB build for some time.
Myself and a few select others have been working along with him on his build, as well projects of our own, such as cm10.1 and a few others...
Jacob should know this as well, since he tested a few earlier on: that Liquid's JB build includes the Xposed Framework in it.
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Yeah, I messaged with liquid a few weeks ago, and he said he, you, and others had been working on JB for the bolt. He didn't mention xposed, but said all but data and the highest quality video capture was working at that point. We owe you guys a tremendous "thank you" for continuing to work on ROMs for this device. I never imagined the bolt would continue to see this kind of love during that long wait for ICS.
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Actually Liquid has been working on his JB build for some time.
Myself and a few select others have been working along with him on his build, as well projects of our own, such as cm10.1 and a few others...
Jacob should know this as well, since he tested a few earlier on: that Liquid's JB build includes the Xposed Framework in it.
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Yeah, liquid jb comes with the xposed installer and per-app dpi
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Just curious what people think of the latest ROMs, what the fastest, smoothest, best looking are, etc...
Been using Scott's CleanROM ICS a lot and really like it, but was thinking to myself, that most of them seem to credit the same devs for various contributions and things... so in the end, are they all pretty much the same?
I know that if you ask a Dev they will say how theirs is different, but I would love to hear from end users who have used them all extensively, which ones they prefer and why.
I think that they are all great, but perhaps some are better in certain areas than others, and so a conversation that lays all that out might be beneficial to people who want to just to an ICS ROM, but don't know what one is right for them, and the "trial and error" process might be more than they are able to willing to tackle.
For reference, CM7 that I had on the DX is my all time favorite ROM, and it is the benchmark for me, so any ROM I go to, is to try and get as close to that experience as possible.
Thoughts?
Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Bamf is good. I also like Nils Business and Rezrom . Try them all out to see what you like.
Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Ok, cool, I will check that one out as well. Just ran a Nandroid backup so I guess I am ready to experiment. All of these latest versions are based off of the latest RUU, so I should not have to mess with that, or kernels for that matter, correct? Just the ROM itself, and if I don't like it, a simple Nandroid restore?
Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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Cool. I am trying RezROM 3.1 right now and I do like the UI and theming, and it appears that version 3.2 is about to drop, if I read the thread correctly...
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Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Nope. They all use the same kernel I think because kernel source isn't out. Just nandroid.
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I'm running RezROM and loving it. One of the best things about the Rezound is the list of developers. Whether it's Bored, Nils, or Scott, their ROMS are rock solid and well-supported. Other devs are excellent, too, but these 3 are the ones I look to first.
ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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I would assume that patching the new ROMs to run on the old firmware will be phased out. It will probably be around for a little while to make it easy for those who may want to go back to GB. Since the new ICS ROMs are pretty much rock solid the only real reason anyone would want to do that is for returning their phone though. Once the official OTA comes I'm sure noone will be making the patches any more. I could be wrong though.
I kinda hope they keep making patches personally, I for one, have had no rush to get the leaked firmware, unless a ROM blows me off my feet that requires it, none have yet.
I've got a feeling that once the AOSP ROMs are working properly they will probably be built around the new firmware. The battery life improvement was worth the 20 minutes or so to do the flash for me. I assume with the patch to run the old firmware with the new ROMs the data arrows are working? Kind of a small thing, but sure is nice to have them back. LOL
Cleanrom DE is pretty nice, has an aosp feel but still has some sense parts, seems pretty smooth but I can never get any of the ics launchers as smooth as sense was
They are all great!!!
Personally I don't like running non official firmware. When HTC releases the official firmware we are probably going to have to go through the entire process again anyways. Also if HTC doesnt deem it fit for official release then i am not using it unless I am having a major issue that needs to be fixed. I wonder if the New firmware would fix my ics performance issues though
I am running ICS now as a daily driver on the old firmware. It is still a tad slower than gb performance wise for me. I have gone back and forth a couple times. I can see why people would want to stay on old firmware or gb til official ics is release. Hopefully ics performs a little better when it becomes official.
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I used to love Sense, but as time has gone on I've grown kind of sick of it, plus it takes a heavy toll on the battery and resources. So now I've been looking for something closer to AOSP. The first ROM I used was Xtreme Outcast's ROM. It was slightly themed and close to AOSP. He hasn't updated in a while so I've tried scrosler's CleanROM DE, because he's on the newest leak, and so far I really like it. It's got some Sense elements, which I still have mixed feelings on, but it's really smooth, and has improved my battery life loads.
I am still using the original ICS leak based off 4.0.1. I have put so much time into it, and have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
a.mcdear said:
have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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My thoughts exactly, my setup is working completely stable so I have no issue to change until a similar situation.
Ive been bouncing around all the JB roms for a while now.... I seem to have a jumble of issues with each one, including;
freezing, reboots, flicker, audio wont work, doesnt want to play audio file (sometimes Gmusic will work sometimes not.. i have an audiobook player that gives me issues too, sometimes,)
Sometimes if very smooth, sometimes not, sometimes its just so crazy laggy!!
At one point i got so frustrated that i wiped evrything! including the storage the card, system.. everything. .... still have issues.
It seems like with every rom there are just more issues...
Is there a JB rom that is running really well? no reboots/freezes everything works well?
Maybe an ICS one? Which was the best ICS rom with zero issues?
The Hybrid RCVII has been pretty much issue-free.
Would like to move to Paranoid/Hybrid for the more fine-grained per-app dpi/layout settings...
JB is still very much a WIP....
and does contain bugs that can be real show stoppers. But if you are wanting a very stable ICS build with several additions that function exceptionally well,
Might I suggest trying flappjaxxx IMM76D UCLF6 build #5.
I feel a bit guilty propping any developer or build over another, simply because we have so many highly skilled developers here, but I must say that after trying every available build for the note that we currently have, the flappjaxxx build is my top pick.
And all of his work comes highly recommended, if I'm asked what I prefer .....g
I'm going to put on my flame retardant suit and wade into the brimstone here and ask why not use the stock ICS ROM and root it. I haven't really seen anything in the various cooked ROMS that makes me want to switch over. THIS IS IN NO WAY A DIG AT ANY DEVELOPER.
I find the stock ICS to really fly and almost anything I need to add I can either find in the Market or here on XDA.
I am waiting for the Note 2 apps to get ported over, but other than that, I am really happy with the stock ROM. It has pretty good battery life and I don't see any real hard evidence that any other ROM has better battery life.
Anyone care to chime in and let me know specifically what I am missing in the cooked ROMs?
Just go stock ICS
Burp
I had a really good, stable stock ICS build. GPS was even great.
On a whim, I flashed BlackStar V, then BlackStar VI. I haven't looked back.:good:
Stock is fine, if you want the bloat, and the lack of kernel enhancements that the devs cook in....
You are obviously going to be fine either way.....g
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Stock is fine, if you want the bloat, and the lack of kernel enhancements that the devs cook in....
You are obviously going to be fine either way.....g
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Freeze the bloat with Titanium backup. What are the kernel enhancements. Not challenging you, but asking because I don't know what they are.
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The Hybrid RCVII has been pretty much issue-free.
Would like to move to Paranoid/Hybrid for the more fine-grained per-app dpi/layout settings...
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+1 !!!
for all the JB bugs... I would like to stay on ICS, but at the same time I love the paranoid android features ( especially the latest version 2.11 )
so DEV... can we mix the 2 ??
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Freeze the bloat with Titanium backup. What are the kernel enhancements. Not challenging you, but asking because I don't know what they are.
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if it come in a CWM flash-able zip ... all you have to do is open it with WINRAR and go to "system/app" and remove the bloat(s) BEFORE you flash it
No rom is perfect. Stock or not. The best you can do in terms of custom are rom built on released firmwares. They will have the least problems. When porting or trying to build something that the manufacturer hasn't released the drivers for problems arise. At this point close to stock ICS is your best bet but you don't get the fun of paranoid or liquid or countless others. I find bleeding edge software fun. Bleeding edge hardware is another thing. Good luck.
I would recomend using a de-bloated ICS rom. As mentioned, the flappjaxxx ROMs are really good. Personally I was unhappy with all the JB roms I had tried and was using CM9 as my DD.
Just last night I tried both the current Slimbean and Liquid(both with the flappjaxxx JB kernel) and I was pleasantly suprised. It was night and day from when I tried them both less than a week ago. Right now I'm using Slimbean and it's working great for my uses. But as you mentioned Gmusic is broke(I use poweramp).
I still have a backup of my CM9, in case I run into any major showstoppers.
I'd recomend checking back fairly often as these JB roms are pretty early in development but getting better at a pretty rapid rate.
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Freeze the bloat with Titanium backup. What are the kernel enhancements. Not challenging you, but asking because I don't know what they are.
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A few of the major changes that are made to kernels, prior to our getting them, are init.d support, CIFS support, Boot anim. support, OC/UV support, and GPU support.....just to name a few.
There are several others, but my brain has a difficult time getting past the ones I just mentioned...LOL....g
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No rom is perfect. Stock or not. The best you can do in terms of custom are rom built on released firmwares. They will have the least problems. When porting or trying to build something that the manufacturer hasn't released the drivers for problems arise. At this point close to stock ICS is your best bet but you don't get the fun of paranoid or liquid or countless others. I find bleeding edge software fun. Bleeding edge hardware is another thing. Good luck.
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+100......g
The ROM I always jump back to, is King Kang. It is AOKP with paranoid android features. Per app dpi works great and I haven't had any issues with it.
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Man, if ya want perftect stay stock, there are always going to be issues with ROMs, Christ there are issues with stock.
As well just to add, the JB ROMs have come a long way in a short time people should stop whining so much.
I'm currently using the Google Edition ROM and I love it. I love the stock android UI but I miss the TW camera, gallery, and multitasking.
Is there a ROM with:
Stock Android UI
TW camera
Multitasking
App 2 SD
Also, new to romming, how can I get my Verizon to work without having to sign in? I'm not the account owner of the Verizon account and with stock it automatically signs me in.
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I don't know if any one ROM is going to do everything you are wanting, but Eclipse is pretty close. That's what I'm running right now. It's TW based, but AOSP themed. It has the TW camera and multitasking. It's probably worth trying out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351840
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I don't know if any one ROM is going to do everything you are wanting, but Eclipse is pretty close. That's what I'm running right now. It's TW based, but AOSP themed. It has the TW camera and multitasking. It's probably worth trying out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351840
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Eclipse ROM is siiiiiiick. However, if you're OCD gets the best of you and you can't take some of the graphical imperfections then you'll find yourself restoring a backup quickly.
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Eclipse ROM is siiiiiiick. However, if you're OCD gets the best of you and you can't take some of the graphical imperfections then you'll find yourself restoring a backup quickly.
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My OCD usually keeps me from running themed ROMs because they are generally not done very well. Eclipse is by far the best themed ROM I've ever run.
shortstuff_mt said:
My OCD usually keeps me from running themed ROMs because they are generally not done very well. Eclipse is by far the best themed ROM I've ever run.
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This.... by far. With a little DPI modding my perfectionist side is REALLY happy. I had gotten so used to Slim on my SGS3. This is basically AOSP with all the TW still baked in there. And its memory friendly. Only think I did to change it was installed a stock kernel (then stock modded from scott/hyper) and then the xposed framework for DPI and battery meter changes.
Thread closed, users need to read, test and try on their own - as what is best for you might now be best for others.
So i got my DNA last week and have been playing around with it for awhile (trying several different roms) but i havent found one that fits me perfectly.
I'm looking for one that is desensed
remap hardware keys
Works with Verizon (though 99% of them do)
Beats audio enabled
HTC keyboard (though i can go without)
The two closest i've gotten is VipersDNA and the Unofficial CM port.
I really like CM only real problem is that beats doesnt really work with it (and i know it has dsp but just doesnt sound as well and i cant get eq perfect)
Viper is almost perfect besides a few nitpicks (I miss my scrollable wallpaper and dont like user a different launcher on top) and i prefer the task manager on CM a bit better (though ive never had the phone lag once which is amazing i like hitting recent and closing all apps, but i can easily go without)
Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried several others but can't find one just right...
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So i got my DNA last week and have been playing around with it for awhile (trying several different roms) but i havent found one that fits me perfectly.
I'm looking for one that is desensed
remap hardware keys
Works with Verizon (though 99% of them do)
Beats audio enabled
HTC keyboard (though i can go without)
The two closest i've gotten is VipersDNA and the Unofficial CM port.
I really like CM only real problem is that beats doesnt really work with it (and i know it has dsp but just doesnt sound as well and i cant get eq perfect)
Viper is almost perfect besides a few nitpicks (I miss my scrollable wallpaper and dont like user a different launcher on top) and i prefer the task manager on CM a bit better (though ive never had the phone lag once which is amazing i like hitting recent and closing all apps, but i can easily go without)
Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried several others but can't find one just right...
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Every phone runs things differently in all reality best to try them all yourself. For me its nos or nos gpe
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cstrife999 said:
Every phone runs things differently in all reality best to try them all yourself. For me its nos or nos gpe
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I tried nos gpe earlier today but had a few to many bugs for me, or I did somthing wrong. It had data connection but my 3g 4g icon wouldn't show and no hardware key remap. And kept giving me no service icon but I could make calls , but that one is super close too
I am on CM 10.1 Right now. Only gripe is the camera, not nearly as good as stock sense since it isn't the sense camera but i can live with it. Some of the customization features dont work either. I wouldn't say it is perfect but it is getting there and the DEVs are doing an amazing job for something that is free. Im just waiting for the bugs on GPE to be worked out so I can switch to that.
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I'm currently on EclipticNA by Hawknest. It's Sense 5 based so you still have Beats Audio and the HTC Keyboard. All system apps and some user apps are blacked out and inverted, which I love. This ROM is VERY fast, and with Crpalmers kernel it's faster than light! For desensing, just freeze or uninstall Sense, and use whatever other launcher you want. Recent apps button is remapable. There's "press for recents", "press for recents, hold for menu", and "press for menu, hold for recent".
Other than that, when all the kinks in Newt's GPE ROM get worked out, that would be good for your needs.
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Romwise
Firstly I wanna start out by saying that having to post 10x before i can post to help development is annoying. But i do understand why. So im posting this as my first post to start my way to be able to help development. Im currently rocking a Droid dna. Roms Ive so far liked for this phone Ill list with a brief reason why in order.
1. Team Venom Viper rom. Fast stable and mods out the bum. No issues
2. EclipticNa inverted. Best sense 5 rom to me. Fast stable and saves so much battery with the invert
3. Supercharged hatka. Pretty fast decent mods. And stable.
Ive flashed and used 8 of the roms from xda for the dna so far. When Im able to post for development Ill start giving detailed reviews and helping the devs out. U guys can help a guy out by giving me a thumbs up or something. Thanks.
kitex2 said:
I tried nos gpe earlier today but had a few to many bugs for me, or I did somthing wrong. It had data connection but my 3g 4g icon wouldn't show and no hardware key remap. And kept giving me no service icon but I could make calls , but that one is super close too
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There is a new version of NOS GPE out, version 1.0.3, which fixed all the force reboot and data issues for me, all I had to do was cycle airplane mode two or three times for it to pick up Verizon's connection. Smoothest ROM I've tried so far.
It makes sense that it would work well, because it's coming from an AOSP rom made by HTC for the One. I've had problems with small things not working on other custom ROMs, like HDMI. GPE 1.0.3 has no issues like that so far.
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There is a new version of NOS GPE out, version 1.0.3, which fixed all the force reboot and data issues for me, all I had to do was cycle airplane mode two or three times for it to pick up Verizon's connection. Smoothest ROM I've tried so far.
It makes sense that it would work well, because it's coming from an AOSP rom made by HTC for the One. I've had problems with small things not working on other custom ROMs, like HDMI. GPE 1.0.3 has no issues like that so far.
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I believe it's Sense based to look like AOSP, hence the name Google Experience.
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I believe it's Sense based to look like AOSP, hence the name Google Experience.
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According to newtoroot it's the HTC version of AOSP 4.3 made for the Google Play Edition of the One, so it should be as close to stock as possible..... It also has no hints of sense in any of the apps or menus....
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According to newtoroot it's the HTC version of AOSP 4.3 made for the Google Play Edition of the One, so it should be as close to stock as possible..... It also has no hints of sense in any of the apps or menus....
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Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
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Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
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True, I guess ultimately it's the best AOSP ROM available for the DNA, although I'd love to see a team like Venom come out with a more custom experience based off of it.
"Anandtech's Brian Klug discovered that both the Developer Editions of the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S 4 will not receive software updates directly from Google because they're not running pure Android Open Source Project (AOSP) software, but instead a combination of the OEM kernel and the stock Android skin. As a result, the Google Play edition devices may not receive new Android versions as quickly as standard Nexus devices."
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...one-and-galaxy-s-4-arent-quite-nexus-devices/
I'm still wondering what other "stuff" is in the Google Editions; pure AOSP is under 200 MB, add gapps which is under 100 MB, and then there's _____?
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Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
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newts work gas always been top notch. when something goes wrong, he has it fixed asap. pretty quick about it too. been following since my dinc2 days
-HTC Droid DNA-
If your looking for a Sence 5 Rom , you must try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44076330 by hawknest, it is a beautiful rom
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newts work gas always been top notch. when something goes wrong, he has it fixed asap. pretty quick about it too. been following since my dinc2 days
-HTC Droid DNA-
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I had issues with version 1 and 2, but 3 has been on my phone since he released it and only had an initial data issue (put the phone in airplane mode twice and it fixed it)
Hopefully by now he OP has narrowed down his choices, so continuing with another subject that came up: why have an original development and a development forum?
Is the distinction that an original development ROM is compiled from source even if the ROM has cherry-picks from another ROM and is based on something such as CM, while the development forum are for ROMs that are ported from one device to another which is made to fit over the Sense base since there is no public Sense source to compile from, or is a modification of a manufacturer's ROM?
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Hopefully by now he OP has narrowed down his choices, so continuing with another subject that came up: why have an original development and a development forum?
Is the distinction that an original development ROM is compiled from source even if the ROM has cherry-picks from another ROM and is based on something such as CM, while the development forum are for ROMs that are ported from one device to another which is made to fit over the Sense base since there is no public Sense source to compile from, or is a modification of a manufacturer's ROM?
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Built from source = original development
Built from a factory ROM or otherwise pre compiled image, including from other devices (this covers current MIUI as well) = development
The Roms in development because they have cherry picks but are source built should be in original development, but whatever the mods decide I guess.
That's how I understood it when it was originally posted by XDA when it started.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - MoKee
So with Android version 4.4 KitKat being able to run on devices with as low as 512 MB of RAM comfortably, will this allow rom developers to further develop/improve custom roms for the Amaze with Android 4.4 with little to no bugs in the future? Let the speculation begin...:fingers-crossed:
I wish they would develop that for this device, but I'm not so certain that they will because we don't even have an unofficial 4.3 port as yet (well, as far as I've looked. Only 4.0, 4.1, 4.2.......)
Darian_A said:
So with Android version 4.4 KitKat being able to run on devices with as low as 512 MB of RAM comfortably, will this allow rom developers to further develop/improve custom roms for the Amaze with Android 4.4 with little to no bugs in the future? Let the speculation begin...:fingers-crossed:
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Only if HTC, Qualcomm, and Texas Instruments provide the corresponding updated sources for development. Otherwise what few developers that are left here will still be banging their heads against the wall to port it.
Darin_Ram said:
I wish they would develop that for this device, but I'm not so certain that they will because we don't even have an unofficial 4.3 port as yet (well, as far as I've looked. Only 4.0, 4.1, 4.2.......)
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We do have 4.3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423642
KT-82166 said:
We do have 4.3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423642
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Ooohh I had forgot about this!!
My bad, we do have a 4.3
It was buggy for me, so I went back to tmobile ICS
Idk, I like the sense and sense keyboard more than CM keyboard.
Roms
Darin_Ram said:
Ooohh I had forgot about this!!
My bad, we do have a 4.3
It was buggy for me, so I went back to tmobile ICS
Idk, I like the sense and sense keyboard more than CM keyboard.
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I prefer the old Sense Keyboard. how can I get it back on my CM 10 rom ?
so far I managed to install CM10 rom
updated the contact manager to get it to synchronize with Facebook
but what it lacks is the snapshot ability using power + home button which doesnt work on CM10 rom
and the filp to silent the phone... also the volume controls are not so good during calls.
the volume is always at its highest even if I lower it. also the speaker is not as high as it used to be on the ICS rom
but I have to say CM10 is a better battery saver
runs smoother then ICS stock
and looks good
Sense Jellybean...
Once we have sense Jellybean, the next working will be KitKat.
We are very close to having the very first Sense jellybean rom
4.3 roms
The evervolv rom is currently the best "4.3" rom for the Amaze. Found here: evervolv.com/devices/ruby.
Although, the mobile data is very choppy. It will connect but it's seems to when it wants. Not sure about the intricacies of that. But, a bit of a dealbreaker for me at this point. The good news is evervolv has been updating this rom with
tweaks and bug fixes everyday. So, it looks very promising. Also note, I have found an "unofficial" cm10.2
build by sportsstar89 but the sound does not work. If you search 'ruby' on goo.im you will find it. I would post a link
but the site seems to be down atm. I am currently running cm10/1006-nightly, what i've found to be the best jelly bean
rom at this point. There is also an unofficial cm10.1 build that is pretty good as well. It can be found here: droidfirmwares.com/cm10-1-android-4-2-2-jelly-bean-custom-firmware-for-htc-amaze-4g.html/2. I ran it for quite a while w/o any noticeable
trouble. I just prefer official cm builds i guess.
Fadiayad said:
I prefer the old Sense Keyboard. how can I get it back on my CM 10 rom ?
so far I managed to install CM10 rom
updated the contact manager to get it to synchronize with Facebook
but what it lacks is the snapshot ability using power + home button which doesnt work on CM10 rom
and the filp to silent the phone... also the volume controls are not so good during calls.
the volume is always at its highest even if I lower it. also the speaker is not as high as it used to be on the ICS rom
but I have to say CM10 is a better battery saver
runs smoother then ICS stock
and looks good
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I don't think you can get the keyboard on CM10 unless there's an app or someone made a port or something.
The snapshot feature works differently with Cyanogenmod cause they use the long press power button then selecting screenshot, though you'll have to enable the feature in the system settings.
Flip to silent the phone? Must be a feature I don't use lol
Idk, I liked the ICS stock tmobile (I de-bloated it myself using root uninstaller. Got rid of anything pertaining to t-mobile and it runs like a dream.)
Nenamark2 benchmark averages at 47 fps.
Antutu results are a little over 9000 (Let the Dragon Ball Z jokes start now lmao)
Overclocking is something that I would have loved to do on this stock rom, but I'll just run V6 Supercharger script instead.
Though pushing min. clock to about 1.2ghz gives a slight difference in benchmarks.
Hmmmmmm.......
It would take a lot of developer skills to get it on this device. CM said if they didn't officially support the device before, they won't start now regardless of ram specs. The s4 has it, but even better there is a dev for the international s4 that has made a 4.3.1 ROM which is made up of 85% straight Google source with 15% cm commits to get it to work on our device. And IMO, aosp is better and more stable than cm10.2 and has way less lag.
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Thanks to jeepers007 and Evervolv we're getting ourselves some KitKat- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524691
It's only a matter before the bugs are worked out. So nice to see the Amaze still getting some love. :good:
from what i have seen and heard kit kat will be better on amaze
Darian_A said:
Thanks to jeepers007 and Evervolv we're getting ourselves some KitKat- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524691
It's only a matter before the bugs are worked out. So nice to see the Amaze still getting some love. :good:
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Unfortunatelly jeepers007 bricked his device
The problem is with mounting the sdcards. Google changed how the cards are mounted and we don't know how to get both cards to mount while the phone isn't connected to the computer.
And exactly what happened to Ravike is what happened to jeepers.
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I want to ask here in general that is porting risky??
Because it lookin that jeepers007 bricked his phone...
What one should not do while porting Roms...!??
Any.suggestions
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chevycowboyusa said:
The problem is with mounting the sdcards. Google changed how the cards are mounted and we don't know how to get both cards to mount while the phone isn't connected to the computer.
And exactly what happened to Ravike is what happened to jeepers.
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Chevy perhaps you guys are going about things the wrong way. Instead of putting so much energy into getting a 3.4 kernel up and running maybe its better to stay with 3.0 and work around it. This is what the most successful developers have been doing on other legacy devices. For example, Tytung is still using basically the same kernel 2.6.29 for every version of Android since Froyo and his version of JellyBean-4.3 / CM-10.2 is much further along than anyone here is. He has faced the same issue of not having updated sources that everyone here has. In discussions on his board he's mentioned that it was easier to modify elements which require ion to pmem than developing an ion kernel from scratch to fully support that device. Perhaps our Amaze would be better served if developers here take the same approach. Use what we already have and just workaround it.
Now as to the mounting issue, the fact that both internal and external SD-cards are recognized and can be mounted via adb suggests that It's a configuration problem. Perhaps init scripts need slight modification or symbolic links created to get them mounted correctly. Again I hate to keep bringing up Tytung, but he worked around MTP issues by simply not implementing it in his newer ROMs. The old method of accessing the SD storage worked well with our devices, why must we reinvent the wheel? Yes MTP is more secure which is the primary reason for its adoption, but really, do we need it if implementing it correctly is only bringing about more problems?
Edit: Another thing to consider is Jellybean-4.3 introduced SELinux in permissive mode which means potential security risks are only logged, but nothing is done about it. KitKat incorporates SELinux in enforcing mode which introduces a whole range of new issues I'm sure developers here have never had to deal with before. I know from my experience with Gentoo that SELinux can be a royal pain in the ass to administer. Which is why I don't use it in my rig. I can't tell you how many times I've seen bug reports where a package fails on an SELinux install that works as expected for everyone else. I also can't tell you how many times I've seen packages pushed into the stable repository only to be moved back into unstable when SELinux users complain about it not working for them. It truly is a ***** to setup and have running correctly. To me this is just another reason to get out a stable fully functioning Jellybean-4.3 in which to build off of before trying to tackle KitKat-4.4 which is going to be a far more difficult nut to crack.
Just my 2 cents
Odysseus1962 said:
Chevy perhaps you guys are going about things the wrong way. Instead of putting so much energy into getting a 3.4 kernel up and running maybe its better to stay with 3.0 and work around it. This is what the most successful developers have been doing on other legacy devices. For example, Tytung is still using basically the same kernel 2.6.29 for every version of Android since Froyo and his version of JellyBean-4.3 / CM-10.2 is much further along than anyone here is. He has faced the same issue of not having updated sources that everyone here has. In discussions on his board he's mentioned that it was easier to modify elements which require ion to pmem than developing an ion kernel from scratch to fully support that device. Perhaps our Amaze would be better served if developers here take the same approach. Use what we already have and just workaround it.
Now as to the mounting issue, the fact that both internal and external SD-cards are recognized and can be mounted via adb suggests that It's a configuration problem. Perhaps init scripts need slight modification or symbolic links created to get them mounted correctly. Again I hate to keep bringing up Tytung, but he worked around MTP issues by simply not implementing it in his newer ROMs. The old method of accessing the SD storage worked well with our devices, why must we reinvent the wheel? Yes MTP is more secure which is the primary reason for its adoption, but really, do we need it if implementing it correctly is only bringing about more problems?
Edit: Another thing to consider is Jellybean-4.3 introduced SELinux in permissive mode which means potential security risks are only logged, but nothing is done about it. KitKat incorporates SELinux in enforcing mode which introduces a whole range of new issues I'm sure developers here have never had to deal with before. I know from my experience with Gentoo that SELinux can be a royal pain in the ass to administer. Which is why I don't use it in my rig. I can't tell you how many times I've seen bug reports where a package fails on an SELinux install that works as expected for everyone else. I also can't tell you how many times I've seen packages pushed into the stable repository only to be moved back into unstable when SELinux users complain about it not working for them. It truly is a ***** to setup and have running correctly. To me this is just another reason to get out a stable fully functioning Jellybean-4.3 in which to build off of before trying to tackle KitKat-4.4 which is going to be a far more difficult nut to crack.
Just my 2 cents
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Well I tried what you said thing is sense is entirely different than CM or aosp the sources are there for public in both of them... But sense is a closed source and sense jb rom libs are compiled according to 3.4 kernel by HTC.. If we want to update the 3.0.16 kernel we have to enable ion with it then have to make the necessary libs along with it as well according to sense source, also must make ion enabled libs we have to make them all according to sense source.. Even the simple fixes of sense is really hard cuz HTC Sense is a complicated system :/... Tytong and almost all the cm devices lower than villec2 still use pmem kernels not ion... Not even cm team making ion enable kernels and ion enabled roms for us cuz it's a lot of work even tho its basically aosp..
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ravike14 said:
Well I tried what you said thing is sense is entirely different than CM or aosp the sources are there for public in both of them... But sense is a closed source and sense jb rom libs are compiled according to 3.4 kernel by HTC.. If we want to update the 3.0.16 kernel we have to enable ion with it then have to make the necessary libs along with it as well according to sense source, also must make ion enabled libs we have to make them all according to sense source.. Even the simple fixes of sense is really hard cuz HTC Sense is a complicated system :/... Tytong and almost all the cm devices lower than villec2 still use pmem kernels not ion... Not even cm team making ion enable kernels and ion enabled roms for us cuz it's a lot of work even tho its basically aosp..
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Thanks for you comments, now I fully understand your dilemma. The issue isn't just getting a working JB ROM, it's getting a working JB/sense ROM. You see I'm sense agnostic. My HD2 had sense with windows, but all of the best android ROMs for it were aosp or cm based, so I got used to not having it. Now I've got it again with the nrg ROM so I use it. When I ran Tytung's cm ROMs I always customize anyway. To me cm or aosp is like having a blank canvas to paint on. You have the basic features, but It's infinitely customizable to taste. Sense gives a different platform. You can still customize, but It's not as flexible to customize as aosp or cm. In a way it's factory customized. Either way I'd just love to see a fully functioning JB on our devices. Please keep up the good work!
Ciao
I've asked somthing in above post..
Can anyone reply please... I want to start my work though....
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shubham211995 said:
I want to ask here in general that is porting risky??
Because it lookin that jeepers007 bricked his phone...
What one should not do while porting Roms...!??
Any.suggestions
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I'm not the most experienced but from my knowleged you should be ok as long as you watch what partitions you format.
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