Helloo people.. I am new to this community.
i wanna root my piece and install a rom and get to a new world of android customization.
ne1 help me with procedure ??? from start to End. As i dont knw mch abt rooting and in a learning process.
Details would help a lot mate. Go to phone settings then about phone. Don't need imei so don't post that. :thumbup:
We also need you to search
Root procedures has been covered hundreds if not thousands of times across the internet. So finding a good root method isn't going to be hard if you search.
But andrew is right, we still need more information about your device (settings>about phone) to get you into the right direction..
If you're unable to search for & find the info you need given how often this has been discussed here over the past two years (easily the two most discussed topics), you'd probably question whether you should be messing with your phone in the first place.
'ne1 help me with procedure ??? from start to End. As i dont knw mch abt rooting and in a learning process.' - will lead to a busted phone if you 'do' before you learn 'how' & 'why'.
Spoonfeeding this person the info they want because they provide the info in settings/about phone is ridiculous. The default response to threads like this should be 'Search', not 'Do A, B, C, D & E'.
How about you hold on for my next response before jumping the gun and guessing I'm going to "spoon feed him" when have I ever spoon fed anyone? He says what hes on and il tell him what kernel to use. Down to him to work out how by reading like I would and have put loads of times. Why you being funny with us for? You should no my response by now Mb
Mistahbungles advice will stand the OP in good stead.Its not a problem him being a noob,as The Hulk has got a thread running in the general section.
He is welcome to go there instead of creating crap topics like this that have been covered loads of times.
He is wanting to know everything without doing a lot of the spadework himself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24672134
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That thread is for after you root and outdated. I'm sure Rom manager will stuff your phone if you flash with that. Lets lead the op in to the lions den. Next thing will be use getril.
Lol pm the hulk and moan to him.And a 2 minute search,and 2 minutes of action will get him rooted.
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Lol moan!!!! No not moaning at all. Dont give bad advice,its not the xda way. Rom manager is a joke. that thread is well outdated you should no better than to post a link to that. That could put him in a world of pain.Post helpfull things. Iv bin reading lots of your posts and I'm sure the mods are too. Shame cuz I bet you could help loads but choose not to.
Well....it is clear that the OP needs to search.
Sent from the little guy
Don't spoonfeed people the two most asked/answered topics on here ever; that's the XDA way.
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details would help a lot mate. Go to phone settings then about phone. Don't need imei so don't post that. :thumbup:
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read!!!! Spoon feed! !! Were did i do that!! Going on like iv said give him steps already! !! Read again pls
stop talkinhg, both of you.
enouhh id emoug
*hip*
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This is so true.
I thought we was all cool with each other. Spoon feeding is not done here we all now this and I don't understand why we like this at each other. I have the upmost respect for you Mb your a good bloke and has pointed people in the right direction like was going to. Also gastonw I have respect for you too. I'm just tired of the "use search" posts. If a mod feels like I'm out of order pls pm me.
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read!!!! Spoon feed! !! Were did i do that!! Going on like iv give him steps already! !! Read again pls
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Maybe people are tired of people joining here,and instead of searching,wanting links and step by step instructions of how to do things.
Maybe these same people get a bit annoyed when they try to follow the rules and other people dont.
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I understand were your coming from. But I haven't spoon fed. I thought we was a bit like a family on q and a trying to help and point people were they need to go. Guess I was wrong
Pls read my first post. I asked for details of his phone thats all. I even said thanks to the next post for saying use search before any one reply. He got were I was going I think. Find out his details and point him to right kernel. I feel like crap cuz of this thread now and I did nothing wrong. I to respect you theunderling.
You do what you like andrew but the guy will only end up relying on you rather than finding out and learning for himself.
Also,if you advise him about something you could end up getting him in a right mess.That wouldnt be your fault but his.
Eg.
If he flashing something and he loses his efs,or odin doesnt recognize his phone,or he doesnt back up and loses valuable stuff.
You see,are you meant to warn him about all the risks beforehand.As T has said,he should search before doing anything as it will be the OP that will end up with problems.
I could hang around and just post "search" all the time but I cant be bothered.
Maybe the regulars on here can say what Ive advised before
"Before flashing anything,read the threads in q+a to give an idea of problems with flashing.Do it for a week since just about everything is covered".
That maybe a more polite way of saying "search",but better to get straight to the point.
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This is why I point out the kernel or rom to be used but then say read. Iv tested loads for people on xda and no how to put it Bk to working mode but I get your point about relying on me had that a few times in Pms and it does do my head in. I just like to help too much I think. Your point is noted.
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Does anyone know how to unroot and put the phone back to stock??? My girl is gonna sell her phone... Has the verizon OTA update came out to the phones yet?? Can i just let it update??
maybe you should, read the forums.....
I would give you a link to the post on page 2 of this forum but those abilities are blocked for me right now.
Pretty funny how a 14 and 5 poster is making fun of a 96 poster. It is a shame we can't restrict the internet from some people.
So in short. Answer is yes, you can de-root (assuming that is a word) the phone back to stock there is a thread that has a guide for you to do so. Also you should be able to find it yourself. Make it a learning experience.
THREAD!!!
Heres the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
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Pretty funny how a 14 and 5 poster is making fun of a 96 poster. It is a shame we can't restrict the internet from some people.
So in short. Answer is yes, you can de-root (assuming that is a word) the phone back to stock there is a thread that has a guide for you to do so. Also you should be able to find it yourself. Make it a learning experience.
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How do you get that I was picking on him?
I tried to direct him to the right thread.
Better than telling him the same thing and calling it a learning experience!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
Please use the search function to avoid duplicate posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
Doesn't look like he is being made fun of, and what does the number of posts have to do with it. People need to A) use search, B) post incorrect threads/forums.
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How do you get that I was picking on him?
I tried to direct him to the right thread.
Better than telling him the same thing and calling it a learning experience!
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I gave him an answer that it was possible and that there is a thread with a guide. You gave him nothing but "go to page two" Looks to me that I gave more useful information.
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Pretty funny how a 14 and 5 poster is making fun of a 96 poster. It is a shame we can't restrict the internet from some people.
So in short. Answer is yes, you can de-root (assuming that is a word) the phone back to stock there is a thread that has a guide for you to do so. Also you should be able to find it yourself. Make it a learning experience.
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I wasnt making fun of him, just saying that he needs to search unstead of not reading a thing on the forums just like jcase said!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
Please use the search function to avoid duplicate posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652419
Doesn't look like he is being made fun of, and what does the number of posts have to do with it. People need to A) use search, B) post incorrect threads/forums.
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Philosophre it seems like ur one of the people to keep starting new threads for the same things thats been posted more than once!
not trying to start anything just my matter of opinion
I may seem like that in your view, but please do a search to see if I have ever created such a thread. A thread that has been repeated.
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Your post has no on useful information. With a quick assumption he didn't read the forums, maybe he just missed it.
by me saying that means there has to be something in the forums...
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by me saying that means there has to be something in the forums...
oh btw Philosophre go suck a wang
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haha, I chuckled at the maturity of you. truly a shame the internet can't be restricted from people.
Ninja Edit: awww you edited once more to take it out.
yep, they would take people like you that has no common knowledge to read before they post.. if you read before you post, u know the forums wont get cludderd then it just makes more work for the people who has to go threw and take the threads like this off the board
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I may seem like that in your view, but please do a search to see if I have ever created such a thread. A thread that has been repeated.
Your post has no on useful information. With a quick assumption he didn't read the forums, maybe he just missed it.
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I covered this, and made the downgrade for everyone myself. It has been covered in this forums, and cross posted/referenced all over.
TopazAaron think before you post
Philosophre think before you post.
Rustyman14 search before you post and post in the right forum.
Requesting this thread to be closed.
i did think before i posted, i just dont like being said i was making fun of someone when iwasnt, he started it and i dont take the crap..
but thanks for getting this takin care of jcase
TopazAaron,
Agree with you, still think your comment shouldnt of been said, or been said in PM.
Thank you for the link.. As for the ppl who had something smart to say you could have just answered the question with out being an smart ass!! What did making your dumb comment accomplish??? Nothing!! So next time if you cant help me then just shut up!! Nobody wants to here you *****!! I dont have this phone I was asking a question for a friend!! Im not familiar with this thread so thats y i just asked a question so that the decent ppl that are here to help and not ***** could help me out!!
i see all these nice incons and i have no clue how u install them , i really would appericate it if someone could list step by step how to install them thank u so much
Here my friend take a look at this thread! I don't think I can explain it much better!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567080
What are those "Help me!!!!!!!"-Threads always supposed to be? Is it so difficult to choose a proper ThreadTitle which informs a potential reader about the content of the Thread. And why the hell must it sound like you have bricked your phone completely when u just want to ask a minor standard-question (without even using the searchfunction by the way... ). Please Guys keep this forum clean and informative.
Thanks
Yes, it's crazy to see all those questions without people make the effort to use the search function!
im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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Flash is fore Rom's!!
Cabs are installed!!
Just download the cab's you need, copy to your SD and pres on install! Don't see the difficult in it!
Oh yes fore your safety, install the cab on the device's memory!!
no i understand all of that , im talking about when i save my new icons to a folder then go in and copy them , i needed to knw where i paste them so they will show up in the start menu
^^^ Did you actually really read the answer in posting #2?
I kind of doubt that. Because your new question implies you haven´t.
Please follow the link, read everything, download and try the app - and there you go.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Sometimes (a lot of) people just don't read nor search and expect to be spoon-fed the information they need (because they would not spend the effort to do/find it themselves). I don't know about the majority but to me that is just laziness and quite annoying.
AS FOR THE QUESTION POSTED, if you actually do go to the link posted above, the information is there and any questions you might still have is better directed in that thread rather than creating a new one such as this with a SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!! subject line.
I thought moderators are deleting threads such as this.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Nobody is jumping on anybody.
The truth is harsh sometimes. Obsolete and redundant questions and answers are definitely not something any forum is searching for. It´s called spam.
Ignoring the correct answer (which in this case was given in the very first answering posting) isn´t a beginners mistake, imho. It doesn´t show respect to the user who posted the link.
If me pointing out this very fact was too rude, I am sorry. But to be honest, I am tired of recurring subjects which could easily be solved using the search function. I did the same when I came here as a beginner. Oh, and btw, please check the forum rules and the new stickies.
Last, but not least, in the other forum you mention, it might be a different story sometimes. People get ignored there, and some statements are much harsher than anything I have personally ever seen here.
We are all human beings. Cool down.
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Ok yes the link provided was good information. I personally just PM someone when I have a question. I been here for a while so i have that option because people will PM me back.
My point is some people or smarter than others. Iam a developer myself, so alot of problems or questions I can figure out on my own. But some people are not that smart and this phone can very easily expose that fact. So some new people might need more help , and sarcasm wont help anyone. They dont call this a smart phone for nothing. Whats simple to you and me , might be complicated to others.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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I don't see what's your problem Sr.
First of all the moderators have create a special sub-forum fore this Q and A.
secondly I can understand that maybe using the searchfunction is not easy to everyone, and certainly not if you don't know what to search!
But after the moment I post him the correct link to his question, a hole thread that give you bay the way a hole step by step explanations I don't know how we can give a better treatment!?
but after that the person came back with a question what is tread in there!!!???
I don't know sr but there is a end on everyone's goodness!
nice is a good word
Ok I understand its annoying when newbies just dont get it. As for a problem I dont have one , and maybe I came off harsh. My mistake too.
When the OP said flash a cab , that alone told me he isn't computer or phone savy. He obviously is way over his head with this type of phone. He probaly got lucky when he found this website. Iam sure he was excited that he could ask a question because he was lost. The comment that pissed me off a little was telling him its safer to install to the phone. Thats definitally not right at all.
The only reason I said anything was because I could tell the OP was really lost and confused. By reading his comments I could tell he never had anything like this before. So for his 1st venture into the wonderful world of windows mobile, I just didnt want him to be discouraged. I want him to enjoy the phone and mod it to the fullest extent.
the reason way I have wright "installed cabs on your device" is because there are some cab's that don't have a correct installation pat. And like I saw it was a new member who posted this thread I give him this tip, to be sure he don't installed it on SD.
I don't see what is wrong with that!?
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1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
It´s a bit sad to see the development of this thread.
Something which was not "bashing" turned into bashing after a posting was made, citing the "bad word". In the meantime, there was even a thread opened to discuss that very question.
I think both threads should be closed. They don´t belong into the "HD2 Themes and Apps" section anyway.
And, imho, it is recommendable to install system relevant items like icon cabs to the device, I definitely second kurt-willems´ advice. On the other hand, CSMI or JWMD Icon Changer, the possible programs to change icons manually, can go onto the memory card.
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1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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But I don't see sarcasm on my post, maybe my bad english, or maybe my culture.
That was all I had to say.
zarpy said:
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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I don't want to wade in on the bashing, but to make a comment like your first one, "unstable OS", sounds to me like you have something against windows mobile, and to post in a thread of someone looking for help that their os is just "Unstable" is not really help ...
I am sure there are a lot of people that use WiMo daily and would not agree that it is "Unstable"
I personally install almost everything to phone memory because this phone can take it, and my phone runs just fine...
With this phone there is a bigger chance of the SD card getting corrupted than the OS ...
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Its very funny to me now. I just responded and I didnt bash anyone. Its funny how people can talk to someone anyway they like, but cant take it when someone talks to them the same way.
If you didnt like the way I responded, maybe you shouldnt that way to others. Very simple have a nice day!!!
ok guys i know alot of people r done with this phone but i find it is more than capable of doing what i need it to do. i have tried so many different things with this phone and have "bricked" it so many times ive gotten pretty good and recovering this thing.
now ill be honest i dont know how to upload the necessary files to a site...gonna work on that now....i know i should know how to do that but i dont. i do this on my own time and am self taught ...with the help of some good friends....u know who u r....anyway..id be happy to help with anything i can. i have a link to a thread that helped me. damn near a step by step thread on how to get to ICS from even a "bricked" phone that a friend of mine talked me through
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ok guys i know alot of people r done with this phone but i find it is more than capable of doing what i need it to do. i have tried so many different things with this phone and have "bricked" it so many times ive gotten pretty good and recovering this thing.
now ill be honest i dont know how to upload the necessary files to a site...gonna work on that now....i know i should know how to do that but i dont. i do this on my own time and am self taught ...with the help of some good friends....u know who u r....anyway..id be happy to help with anything i can. i have a link to a thread that helped me. damn near a step by step thread on how to get to ICS from even a "bricked" phone that a friend of mine talked me through
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there is a guide in the general section that covers this...why is it some folks want to start a guide this late in the game? the only reason i started mine back in august was alot of the links were broke and some of the information is dated in the stickies. i keep mine updated and everything is covered. if your looking for thanks, then refer folks to it and ill hit your thanks button.
wasnt tyin to start a guide or look for thanx...was just trying to help....some things are confuzing for some.
and thats why there is a guide in the general section with links and step by step instructions...if one thinks its confusing then they need to take a step back and do alot of reading before bricking there device. aside from that this thread is in the wrong section.
then i apologize. there is no doubt u guys r way smarter then myself. im not tryin to step on toes.
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then i apologize. there is no doubt u guys r way smarter then myself. im not tryin to step on toes.
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not stepping on any toes man...im glad your here to help. if you feel that you can come up with a guide that is better or less confusing then by all means go for it...i was just trying to clue you in that it has been covered already to save ya some time. im by no means a no it all and learning something new all the time...again feel free to critique my guide, if you think something could be worded different to be more clear, im all ears!
i didnt even know u had a thread man. ive just had this thing for couple months and have done a lot to it and have had some help from friends willing to take time to walk me through it and be there on the fly to answer ?s...was just tryin to do the same for someone else...thats all...cheers buddy.
You will find THE GUIDE in GENERAL section, under DROIDSTYLES name. It is VERY comprehensive and thorough ;D
Stay flashing my friend.
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Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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I like this guy, but I have low expectations.
I personally have NO issue reading "noobie" questions. Everyone is different and I don't expect they must act like me. For you, me and others who spot a so-called "noob question", if you don't want to help then report the thread/post to mod so they can take care of. Yelling at newbies just makes the matter worse and that have been proved for ......... like you said, the past 6 months.
What irritates me more is SAME person asking the SAME question by creating multiple threads.
Therefore, for us, seniors, if you're not willing to help then just simply walk away from the thread, don't post, don't act like you are the mod.
One other issue, don't be an ass-kisser here.
For newbie, pls read the sticky thread FIRST.
This is 100% correct but you are missing one other important word to go with your "rules, etiquette and respect" slogan and that word is "Attention"
People need to pay attention! So if you could just change the title of the thread to "Rules, Etiquette, Attention, and Respect" or R.E.A.R. for short? Then I think that will cover it. So next time someone asks a question in the wrong thread? I can just point them right to your R.E.A.R.
Most of us are coming to under stand that there is no help what so ever for what the old gaurd calls common qustions so we just go else where
I spent 18 hours sunday working on my phone and I am happy with the results.
The biggest problem is even the fairly detailed instructions leave out the tiniest simple things people do not think of because they just figure everyone on earth should know it.
take for example if you are trying to get your phone ready and going right now the easiest way is to use the directions and flash to a older SU rom then up grade it from there. I searched for hours and could not find an answer to a simple question on why Odin would not upload the files I was trying to load so I had CWM.
In the end the answer, which I figured out my self, was that Odin will not load the .zip files everyone uses for CWM. I accedently tripped over a kernel that was in a different format,.tar, and got lucky.
After that I soft bricked the phone a few times following directions and then ran across the Little bricker Rom that had GREAT directions and loaded first time perfectly.
So for you old timers I might say step back every once in a while when you are writing the great write ups you do and think of the first time you did it. It is the little things that count and are left out most of the time
As Android grows you are going to have to deal with it more and more and you just can't keep kicking people in the teeth or they will not return. GOOD you say? No not good. Not everyone wants an Apple and you do not want to wind up like Nokia or the old PDA platforms that are dead and gone.
So take this how you may. I did get where I needed to go but a simple 20 minute gig took 18 hours to figure out because of the little things all of you take for granted and do not always include.
Thank you for the site
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
The problem is visual.
The stickies was made by a dev. Just find a good NOOB to do it and youll be fine.
The first stickie must be how to flash a rom. But this one is not there. It is inside of another stickie at the line 157... cmon
The noob that decides to flash wont read all the stuff. He'll just read the info that he wants.
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All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
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I don't think there is a lack of information, far from it. I think the problem is that the information is scattered. For example, the guy 2 posts up that tried to use a .zip in Odin...the information that you need to use a .tar is posted in these forums, it's just not in an easily accessible place like the FAQs. I think it's a combination of: lack of organization on the forum's side and laziness on the user's side.
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
I think some of you have forgotten how this place originally came about and its primary purpose. It was and still is, mostly, a place for developers and development. It was never supposed to be a help desk. That it is a great resource for people needing help is a secondary byproduct, not its raison de'tre. I think this misunderstanding is what leads to incorrect assumptions and expectations and, in turn, hurt feelings when the forum doesn't meet what some think it should be.
RatusNatus said:
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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I respectfully disagree. The noob does not need a step by step guide. The noob needs to read, research, and learn so that he (or she) can make sense of the available information. a quick guide so the noob "can haz ROM nao" is only going to lead to a disappointed, knowledge lacking noob later on down the line...
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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And you need to remember that the developers in here, for the most part, don't get paid for what they do. We get all their great stuff for free. Actually, we get it for the cost of doing our own research and finding our own solutions. Seems like a fair trade to me.
And as dandrum noted, helping noobs by leading them by the hand is a bad idea. People need to understand fully what they are doing and what it does because otherwise when they inevitably run into a problem they will have no idea what to do to fix it or where to start to even look. This stuff isn't rocket science, but it does require a certain level of comprehension. it is unfair to expect the unpaid members of this forum to bail people out when something goes wrong because they either didn't do their homework or have no understanding of what they're doing.
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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No they absolutely can complain because this is still a developer Site no matter how popular it becomes.
mmtrago said:
you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
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What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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From my perspective I feel as though the vast majority of the time I have virtually no reason to post.
This is usually because of one of the following:
a- someone else has asked a question that I do not have the answer to, not that I'm a n00b but do not know or I would rather leave it up to the real devs to deal with it;
b- I would just be either flaming someone for asking a stupid question or leave a stupid question unanswered because some things should just be figured out by yourself; or most importantly
c- if i have a question or some other issue I can search for it or spend time reading through many posts because there are enough people and knowledgeable people around here that at this point my question or any sort of problem has already been answered, or at least the question has already been asked so there is no reason to spam the same questions over and over.
so just always remember before you make a possibly redundant post there are plenty of us sitting back and reading because usually that is all you need to do
What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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good one..
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good one..
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Wasn't supposed to be. The logic is sound.
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Someone had to outline it
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**** has been outlined in almost every single thread I have look into.
Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
appfactory said:
Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
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GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
squ89r97 said:
GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
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So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
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So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
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yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
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yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
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My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, thats why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
appfactory said:
My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
there is no "right thread" and they are all full of various things you could do with knowing. there are a lot of people who come here expecting a quick and easy "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs" - there is none, they're all relivant.
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
I agree with everything you said here, which is why you should read the threads, they're all relivant
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, that's why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
unfortunately, i also have a day time job (oh what a chore hey?) most of the people, including the devs and the more experienced members here have jobs too, i doubt they all came here with instant vast knowledge on how to flash and all of it's woes, i also doubt they just came here and asked someone to pick out all the best bit for them. I bet they read all the posts, dammit they made the posts, the roms you will use, the rooting procedures. everything on here - for you to say "save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case" is just being ignorant, as i've said everything is relevant, it seems that you want to know everything and share the knowledge but don't want to read about it - it's the only way to learn
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
how do you expect to share knowledge, if you don't read all the info and just get told what you want to know?
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
i'm pretty sure all the "wise guys" on here are fed up with noobs (I by the way, still consider myself a noob) coming here and asking for things to be given to them on a silver platter! we/they are not being patronizing or arrogant, they are simply telling you to do your research - just like they did.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
i think you meant treat not "threat" oh and thanks for the assurance . i'm sorry you are being ungrateful just because someone (I) told you to read up! - it's probably not the best way to get help when you refer to the members as "wise guys" "sitting on their high horses" "being arrogant in a patronizing way" - that's how you portray friendliness?
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
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not offended at all :crying:
I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but i'm not being an A$$ - i'm telling you that what you need to know is all in those posts.
i'm done :laugh:
Of course mate, i didnt expect you to read for me, lol, but i was hoping to get pointed to the "most relevant" thread about what i wanted to know, and probably one single thread would be more than enough info to read up.
Forums like these are getting out of proportions after some years, and sometimes impossible to navigate through, and why shouldnt i be allowed to ask for help or shortcuts? Who made up that rule?
If i had been here two years longer than you, doesnt mean i need to hold back any info cause i had to learn everything the hard way, instead i would gladly at least guide people in the right direction.
Ive been in allot of different forums over the past years with different kinds if subjects, but never a forum like this where people are so grumpy and very little welcoming and including, there are no "welcome to the forum buddy, i will try my best to guide you in the right direction"
Eventually one will find the way on its own, but sometimes its nice to be lead onto the right path.
I totally agree, and i ALWAYS try to find the answers im looking for through the search function before i ask, but when i stall, i post in a friendly and humble way like i tried to in my original post.
If all the answers to your questions was to read through every topic, there would be vert little activity in here, but then again, maybe easier to browse through.
A forum where its "stupid" or not "allowed" to ask questions is to me more equal to Google... yea, Google is your friend, but sometimes you wish to know more spesific things...
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
they have a link for the rooting guides for the noobs at the section list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
All in one tool
appfactory said:
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
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I don't want to sound arrogant or anything and I am always happy to help, but if you do not find the guide for rooting... it seems you didn't follow the advice given to you in the posts earlier.
That are stickies in the general section which will help you to understand the basics of rooting, flashing etc. And in addition you have tons of YouTube guides out there.
Hence I wish you good luck, anything is out there for you to learn and share later on, just a little bit of effort is needed to get there.
Btw here you go again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113 and even at the beginning of the q&a section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148708
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I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
JJEgan said:
I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
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Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
appfactory said:
Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
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Sorry you are wrong a day or two actually reading the basic faqs and guides is the starting point that you don't want to start with .This is after all a developers forum that has no place spoon feeding those that dont want to learn .
Their is no best the basic stickied faqs and guides all say the same as do the instructions for each method .
The confusion lies in answers to posts like this where xx say this way is best and b say no use x .Unfortunately due to multiple same posts it is not that easy to navigate the forum but the answer to that is for noobs to bother reading the facts and guides before posting repetitive questions .
I would in your case read the instructions and use CF Root method .
jje
Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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azrieqb said:
Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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If youre right, thats the shortest and best answer so far, :good: given
azrieqb said:
Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Haha. Can't edit with xda app. What I really mean is, cf auto root will not change your recovery. Accidentally put "dont" there.
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