Several users swear by wiping or flashing multiple times. However, the explanations often seem like superstitions.
I would think if a single wipe didn't completely clear a partition, that would be a bug of the recovery software.
I would think if a ROM didn't install right with a single flash, that would be a bug of the ROM.
Thoughts?
I agree with your thoughts. I've never had a problem with just wiping once and/or flashing once. Not sure what wiping and/or flashing more than once would do if it didn't work the first time lol.
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I wipe atleast twice and flash once. Just check the md5 of the zip before flashing and there shouldn't be errors
Idk why someone would need to flash more than one time, and there's scripts to wipe 5 to 10 times automatically
But I wipe twice just to feel I got everything but I know one time is enough lol
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I figured as such. Just wanted to make sure.
sdz2 said:
Several users swear by wiping or flashing multiple times. However, the explanations often seem like superstitions.
I would think if a single wipe didn't completely clear a partition, that would be a bug of the recovery software.
I would think if a ROM didn't install right with a single flash, that would be a bug of the ROM.
Thoughts?
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There was a problem a long time ago involving clockwork recovery where wiping wasn't working all the time. At that time it was suggested to perform multiple wipes on that recovery. I think this all started and sort of stuck since then.
A developer friend of mine once said about wiping and changing ROMs...
"I treat wiping for a ROM change like taking a crap, you wipe and wipe until it's clean, then wipe one more time just to make sure I got everything."
Doesn't really answer the OPs question, just comes to mind every time someone says wipe more than once.
I wipe once because I like to live dangerously ... ohh we are talking about phones
but in honesty I never had a problem wiping once.
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I am currently running KaosFroyo v30 and just recently downloaded v31. Should I wipe my phone before installing the latest version of this ROM?
*Note: it does call for a wipe when installing v17 it reads " **THIS IS A WIPE INSTALL** " does that apply to all ROMs post v17?
Edit: I know I should be asking Kaos himself, but I thought I would ask the community first.
If he doesn't say to wipe in between you don't have to... I personally always wipe the dalvik cache before and after I install a new update even if it's not required.
Well, I did what you advised and everything seems to be working out well. Of course I only just recently updated, so tomorrow and Friday will be test days. One thing i have noticed though us that MMS is till not working....
Like Hungry Man said, you don't HAVE to wipe unless the dev says so, but things always seem to be a lot cleaner when you do wipe.
I always recommend wiping.
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I always wipe disk and Dalvik.
Only takes a second.
And with Titanium and what not, you don't even have to do anything.
They're making things too easy for us, lol.
You could flash with out wipe then if you have issues beyond known bugs, wipe and reflash.
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If you dont have many programs or apps installed then do a wipe but for me it is a pain in the ass setting it all back up again. So, if it is just an update, then I dont wipe. Sometiimes it leaves scratchy ass, sometimes not
I have always wiped updating to a new ROM, mainly because I didn't know any better. The next update I might update after V31 I might just try a flash and see what happens because I'm impatient when reloading everything LOL.
If it is a new completely different ROM then yes I would wipe.
Installing a new ROM, updating or new, is like talking a shyt. You should probably wipe.
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Installing a new ROM, updating or new, is like talking a shyt. You should probably wipe.
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+1 internets. I LOL'd.
most importantly like mom alwayz said , wipe good
Wiping will get rid of all the clingy bits, which isn't always necessary, but I recommend it.
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+1 internets. I LOL'd.
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I'll take that +1 internets sir. Thanks.
I ended up not wiping (no pun intended) no problems so far. I like some of the little tweaks, but I don't think the track ball lighting is not working
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Earlier today I decided I'd give a non-stock ROM a try, and ended up deciding on slimrom. I followed the instructions provided (factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache) with no issues, but now when I try to flash Base_Samsung_4.0.zip it says
-- Installing: /emmc/Base_Samsung_4.0.zip
Finding update package...
OPening update package...
Installing update...
Slim ICS
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and has been like this for over half an hour now. I'm starting to get worried that something is broken, and as my phone is my main form of communications I'd really like to be able to reply to people. I'd have asked in the slimrom thread, but I'm yet to hit 10 posts and here was my best bet.
You could try to wait some more, or take a little risk by pulling out the battery. I dont think there are any other options
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Dammit. It's only a 44MB file, which is why I find 30 minutes a very long time to need to flash. Might leave it for another 30 mins or so and then just pull the battery and hope for the best.
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Earlier today I decided I'd give a non-stock ROM a try, and ended up deciding on slimrom. I followed the instructions provided (factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache) with no issues, but now when I try to flash Base_Samsung_4.0.zip it says
and has been like this for over half an hour now. I'm starting to get worried that something is broken, and as my phone is my main form of communications I'd really like to be able to reply to people. I'd have asked in the slimrom thread, but I'm yet to hit 10 posts and here was my best bet.
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Quickly tap the volume buttons and power button
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Hi
I installed slimrom once it took five-ten mins id pull the battry and follow the steps again except after youve done those wipe wipe wipe etc go in advanced (i think) and fix permissions then install rom again, also i cannot remember now but if it swapps your external sdcard to another folder emmc dont worry its done that for everyone i reccommend just leaving it and changing download folder in apps rather than installing sdcard fix (not app name)
Anyhow enjoy
Finally got it working fine. I just didn't try flashing Base_Samsung_4.0.zip and I'm now running Slimrom 4.
Now my head i about to explode
Anyhow, I have an annoying problem.
Before the upgrade to XXALF6 I noticed no problem other than the known drainage of the battery in idle mode.
I rooted and flashed a ROM and it was ok.
But I got sick of the ROM and I hard reset the phone.
No problems.
Then I upgraded to XXALF6 - still unrooted and all.
First thing I notice is that the phone is lagging a bit now and then. Then when I sent and recieved an SMS or two the phone hung and rebooted.
I seems that happend because when vibration was active.
Also there was a new message saying "com.google.process.gapps" stopped working. And that came up again and again.
As far as I could find online that had to do with syncing the calendar and it should help to clear calendar cache in the phone. It did not.
Then I rooted the phone, just "CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4", no other ROM.
Now the problem was even worse and also the sound stops working on and off all the time.
I tried to find the "com.google.process.gapps" with a file explorer with no luck.
I do find it in ROM Toolbox but its not possible to see the where on the phone the file is even there. Also its not possible to uninstall or even kill the process.
I did notice there seem to be doubles of some apps that I didnt notice previously to flashing CF-Root this time.
And I recall the new guide never mentions to wipe any phone data whatsoever during rooting the phone, and now I am thinking that maybe that should have been in the guide?
Anyhow.. appreciate ANY tips at all, Im so sick of this for the moment ^^
Go to cwm recovery, wipe cash, wipe dalvik cash, wipe data/factory reset, then go to mounts&storage, format system. Then put your phone into the download mode and flash ROM again with odin. This should give you a nice and clean install,without any force closes..
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pedja381 said:
Go to cwm recovery, wipe cash, wipe dalvik cash, wipe data/factory reset, then go to mounts&storage, format system. Then put your phone into the download mode and flash ROM again with odin. This should give you a nice and clean install,without any force closes..
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I did wipe all things, cache, Dalvik, battery and user data with CWM.
At the moment it seems the phone is quite okay actually! The only thing left is SU.
U think I have to format system as well? What else would really be "cleaned" out that wasn't allready with the wipes?
Trust me,some of the devs insisted on formating system before flashing their custom roms,and I did have a bunch of force closes,until I decided to go their way and fully format the phone. It then installs everything from the scratch,so there's no way anything to go wrong.. give it a try,and report back... btw. make sure that you DO NOT restore any of the system data,if you use TB
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Yeah I pretty much learnt same way as predja it is always better to do full system wipe, it is not always necessary with some roms but if you do it you won't come across the problems you have as often.
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I've seen a post about this one in the EVO area, but not here amongst us SGS3 owners:
When I reboot my phone, it always goes through an "Android is updating, application xxx of 3xx" counting up - and takes two or three minutes every reboot.
Is this normal under ICS?
Hmm, I'd say this is Not normal. One of the big "selling points" of the gs3 and ICS is the quick boot time. For me it is very quick. Maybe u should try doing a factory reset and see if it stops this behavior??
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I've seen a post about this one in the EVO area, but not here amongst us SGS3 owners:
When I reboot my phone, it always goes through an "Android is updating, application xxx of 3xx" counting up - and takes two or three minutes every reboot.
Is this normal under ICS?
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If you're rebooting your phone after you wipe your dalvik cache, than that is normal. Reason being is that it stores applications for optimization so that the OS can run more smoothly. When you wipe your dalvik, it clears them out, and then when you reboot, it rebuilds the cache for all applications. Just do a normal reboot without wiping anything and see if it still does it.
That is not normal if it is happening on every boot, only if you wipe your dalvik cache then yes it will update.
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If you're rebooting your phone after you wipe your dalvik cache, than that is normal. Reason being is that it stores applications for optimization so that the OS can run more smoothly. When you wipe your dalvik, it clears them out, and then when you reboot, it rebuilds the cache for all applications. Just do a normal reboot without wiping anything and see if it still does it.
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Yep, just a simple reboot or even a fault / reboot does the same thing. I'm not wiping the Dalvik cache or anything. Happens every time I boot my phone, and I've noticed over the past few days that I never seem to go into 4G/LTE mode any more. Curious - I guess I've laid the hammer on it a bit too much.
Are you using a custom rom or rooted? Or are you completely stock?
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Yep, just a simple reboot or even a fault / reboot does the same thing. I'm not wiping the Dalvik cache or anything. Happens every time I boot my phone, and I've noticed over the past few days that I never seem to go into 4G/LTE mode any more. Curious - I guess I've laid the hammer on it a bit too much.
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what rom r u using ????
with aokp there are setting to which the user can wipe cache and dalvik on every reboot
I read on another forum that a TitaniumBackup odex file may cause this on certain phones. Try uninstalling the apk and then re-install it.
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what rom r u using ????
with aokp there are setting to which the user can wipe cache and dalvik on every reboot
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Sure sounds like it. I'm using the "Route66" rooted ROM with the Invisiblek overclocking kernel in place of the recovery.
Most likely the overclock. i ran the stock rooted 66 with no issue. I also have titanium backup installed without that issue.
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I read on another forum that a TitaniumBackup odex file may cause this on certain phones. Try uninstalling the apk and then re-install it.
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Worth a shot. I'll give it a rip and report back... Thanks!
hmmm... Uninstalled and replaced Titanium Backup, reflashed the stock recovery: no joy there. I'm still getting the rebuild every time I boot. I suppose when I have more time (read next weekend, I'm working 12 hours every day this weekend, then my niece is in town for a week), I'll blow it to hades and start over.
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hmmm... Uninstalled and replaced Titanium Backup, reflashed the stock recovery: no joy there. I'm still getting the rebuild every time I boot. I suppose when I have more time (read next weekend, I'm working 12 hours every day this weekend, then my niece is in town for a week), I'll blow it to hades and start over.
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Oh, well - factory reset, re-route66, invisiblek's v2 overclocked kernel. I'm good, no "Android is updating..." every time, and no mo unlocked icon on the main screen.
I dunno what I did, but the Sammy din't like it!
Thanks, guys!
It seems most are able to get the rom going without issue. Just curious if there is anything outside of the standard process before loading a fresh rom. I've wiped cache/data/dalvik multiple times as well as reinstalled multiple times to no avail. Will not get past the white HTC screen.
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It seems most are able to get the rom going without issue. Just curious if there is anything outside of the standard process before loading a fresh rom. I've wiped cache/data/dalvik multiple times as well as reinstalled multiple times to no avail. Will not get past the white HTC screen.
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I've had problems flashing to I tried various combinations. The one that worked for me was flash superwipe twice clear dalvik cache cache and data/factory reset on 4-ext recovery
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How long are you waiting? It could take a while....maybe 4-5 minutes???
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I've had problems flashing to I tried various combinations. The one that worked for me was flash superwipe twice clear dalvik cache cache and data/factory reset on 4-ext recovery
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Thanks, I had to go back to skyraider for the time being, but ill give that a shot later.
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Thanks, I had to go back to skyraider for the time being, but ill give that a shot later.
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U should do it the ROM is definitely worth it and also try redownloading u might have gotten a bad Download
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Lineside said:
How long are you waiting? It could take a while....maybe 4-5 minutes???
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It sat for at least 10 minutes. I always let a fresh rom sit for awhile. It just never got to the splash screen.
format system, that is one thing that most people miss.
I always backup my stuff then format /cache, /system, /data, & /sdcard so the phone is completely fresh. Then I re-install my backup app and restore my backups to the sdcard. I realize that formatting the sdcard is not necessary, but I just prefer having my the phone completely fresh. Most of my data is in the "cloud" anyways, so very little needs to be restored.
Personally I never really wipe the /system, as it is done automatically before the ROM installs. I do wipe /cache, /data, and /dalvick 3 times, just to make sure it works. The ROMS install without a hiccup, now if I could just get the Wi-Fi to stop causing my phone to lock up.
My recommendation would be format system manually just in case cause I have always done that and never had issues with a rom install. Liquid Ics jmod is running o so smooth for me.
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