I am currently running KaosFroyo v30 and just recently downloaded v31. Should I wipe my phone before installing the latest version of this ROM?
*Note: it does call for a wipe when installing v17 it reads " **THIS IS A WIPE INSTALL** " does that apply to all ROMs post v17?
Edit: I know I should be asking Kaos himself, but I thought I would ask the community first.
If he doesn't say to wipe in between you don't have to... I personally always wipe the dalvik cache before and after I install a new update even if it's not required.
Well, I did what you advised and everything seems to be working out well. Of course I only just recently updated, so tomorrow and Friday will be test days. One thing i have noticed though us that MMS is till not working....
Like Hungry Man said, you don't HAVE to wipe unless the dev says so, but things always seem to be a lot cleaner when you do wipe.
I always recommend wiping.
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I always wipe disk and Dalvik.
Only takes a second.
And with Titanium and what not, you don't even have to do anything.
They're making things too easy for us, lol.
You could flash with out wipe then if you have issues beyond known bugs, wipe and reflash.
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If you dont have many programs or apps installed then do a wipe but for me it is a pain in the ass setting it all back up again. So, if it is just an update, then I dont wipe. Sometiimes it leaves scratchy ass, sometimes not
I have always wiped updating to a new ROM, mainly because I didn't know any better. The next update I might update after V31 I might just try a flash and see what happens because I'm impatient when reloading everything LOL.
If it is a new completely different ROM then yes I would wipe.
Installing a new ROM, updating or new, is like talking a shyt. You should probably wipe.
mackeydesigns said:
Installing a new ROM, updating or new, is like talking a shyt. You should probably wipe.
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+1 internets. I LOL'd.
most importantly like mom alwayz said , wipe good
Wiping will get rid of all the clingy bits, which isn't always necessary, but I recommend it.
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+1 internets. I LOL'd.
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I'll take that +1 internets sir. Thanks.
I ended up not wiping (no pun intended) no problems so far. I like some of the little tweaks, but I don't think the track ball lighting is not working
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[Q] "Clean Cache" & "Full Wipe" with xRecovery prior to flashing new rom?
Is it true that the best way to keep your phone in optimal state, is to clean the cache and do a full wipe with xRecovery every time before you flash your X10 with any (new) rom?
A friend told me that if you don't clean cache and do a full wipe before you flash to a new rom, the cache content of the rom you're on cannot be removed after flashing to a new rom because the new rom has no re-collection of the contents of the cache from the previous rom you were on.
That's bs... Xrecovery cleans the cache and wipes for you, watch what it says while you're flashing and you will see.
I always recommend doing it anyway just in case, full wipe, then wiping cache partition and finally dalvik cache.
I don`t know and really don`t care
I simply just wipe/clean EVERYTHING i can before any installation.
Result?
Never had most problems users have. Ever. So i will continue
rendeiro2005 said:
I don`t know and really don`t care
I simply just wipe/clean EVERYTHING i can before any installation.
Result?
Never had most problems users have. Ever. So i will continue
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LOL LOL
fiscidtox said:
That's bs... Xrecovery cleans the cache and wipes for you, watch what it says while you're flashing and you will see.
I always recommend doing it anyway just in case, full wipe, then wiping cache partition and finally dalvik cache.
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But if it is bs and xRecovery does it for you. Then why do you recommend doing it anyway? You got me slightly confused here.
Kimodroid said:
But if it is bs and xRecovery does it for you. Then why do you recommend doing it anyway? You got me slightly confused here.
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All I'm saying is if you forget it's not a huge deal, and what he is saying isn't true...
I do it anyway just because when I had a htc hero devs used to recommend you did, so force of habit, yet I know for a fact that what he said isn't true. It could perhaps miss some data which is why you should still wipe, but that data would definitely not be stuck in limbo forever..
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All I'm saying is if you forget it's not a huge deal, and what he is saying isn't true...
I do it anyway just because when I had a htc hero devs used to recommend you did, so force of habit, yet I know for a fact that what he said isn't true. It could perhaps miss some data which is why you should still wipe, but that data would definitely not be stuck in limbo forever..
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Thanks for clearifying that.
No problem
if not switching roms, does it make a difference to your system performance to occasionally wipe the dalvik cache and cache partition?
tdiddy1987 said:
if not switching roms, does it make a difference to your system performance to occasionally wipe the dalvik cache and cache partition?
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I did it on beta 4 and it actually made my performance wayyy worse.. so much so that I had to go back to an earlier backup I had made. MY linpack dropped from 35 to about 6 and the battery started getting super hot, and was dropping insanely fast.
I wouldnt recommend it during usage of a rom. What you can do is get a cache cleaning app and use that regularly! I use cache cleaner ng
rendeiro2005 said:
I don`t know and really don`t care
I simply just wipe/clean EVERYTHING i can before any installation.
Result?
Never had most problems users have. Ever. So i will continue
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+1 and here are a few more characters
I think this will help you get a "clean" install and saves you from other problems later?
Or is there Cons to always doing this?
Now my head i about to explode
Anyhow, I have an annoying problem.
Before the upgrade to XXALF6 I noticed no problem other than the known drainage of the battery in idle mode.
I rooted and flashed a ROM and it was ok.
But I got sick of the ROM and I hard reset the phone.
No problems.
Then I upgraded to XXALF6 - still unrooted and all.
First thing I notice is that the phone is lagging a bit now and then. Then when I sent and recieved an SMS or two the phone hung and rebooted.
I seems that happend because when vibration was active.
Also there was a new message saying "com.google.process.gapps" stopped working. And that came up again and again.
As far as I could find online that had to do with syncing the calendar and it should help to clear calendar cache in the phone. It did not.
Then I rooted the phone, just "CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4", no other ROM.
Now the problem was even worse and also the sound stops working on and off all the time.
I tried to find the "com.google.process.gapps" with a file explorer with no luck.
I do find it in ROM Toolbox but its not possible to see the where on the phone the file is even there. Also its not possible to uninstall or even kill the process.
I did notice there seem to be doubles of some apps that I didnt notice previously to flashing CF-Root this time.
And I recall the new guide never mentions to wipe any phone data whatsoever during rooting the phone, and now I am thinking that maybe that should have been in the guide?
Anyhow.. appreciate ANY tips at all, Im so sick of this for the moment ^^
Go to cwm recovery, wipe cash, wipe dalvik cash, wipe data/factory reset, then go to mounts&storage, format system. Then put your phone into the download mode and flash ROM again with odin. This should give you a nice and clean install,without any force closes..
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pedja381 said:
Go to cwm recovery, wipe cash, wipe dalvik cash, wipe data/factory reset, then go to mounts&storage, format system. Then put your phone into the download mode and flash ROM again with odin. This should give you a nice and clean install,without any force closes..
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I did wipe all things, cache, Dalvik, battery and user data with CWM.
At the moment it seems the phone is quite okay actually! The only thing left is SU.
U think I have to format system as well? What else would really be "cleaned" out that wasn't allready with the wipes?
Trust me,some of the devs insisted on formating system before flashing their custom roms,and I did have a bunch of force closes,until I decided to go their way and fully format the phone. It then installs everything from the scratch,so there's no way anything to go wrong.. give it a try,and report back... btw. make sure that you DO NOT restore any of the system data,if you use TB
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Yeah I pretty much learnt same way as predja it is always better to do full system wipe, it is not always necessary with some roms but if you do it you won't come across the problems you have as often.
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Hi there first thread for me
I was just wondering, I am on stock Samsung ROM but am thinking of installing either Foxhound or Paranoid Android (possibly CM10 when stable supported version is out)
do I need to do a full wipe or can I just wipe cache partition, dalvik cache and fix permissions?
Also out of Foxhound and Paranoid, which would you guys recommend and why? or would you recommend I wait for CM10?
Thanks for all the help guys, this is a great community!
To each his own. Try both and decide yourself. Always recommended to do a full wipe.
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thanks very much for your help, I might just try both as you said and then I can make a decision from there
What actually happens if I didnt do a full wipe and just wiped the caches and fixed the permissions?
Full wipe is recommended but always not necessary. Try installing the Rom without a wipe and if you didn't get any fc then leave it as it is, else wipe it. Also fix permission is not required every time.
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themsubtle said:
thanks very much for your help, I might just try both as you said and then I can make a decision from there
What actually happens if I didnt do a full wipe and just wiped the caches and fixed the permissions?
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If you lucky (occasionally), nothing happens.
If you unlucky (most probably) , unpredictable bugs will annoy you to death
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thanks guys for all the help I think I have just got to go for it and flash a new rom, just hope it works these things always seem to go wrong for me lol
I tried CM a while back (WAY back, actually - pre-ICS) for the i717. It wasn't bad but after a while I went back to stock because for me it just 'felt' better. Hard to explain it other than that. In any case, I've been on full stock ever since and was happy with it.
Then Official JB comes out from the carrier and my phone is laggy as all hell and it's gotten to the point of royally pissing me off to the point that I'm considering my options.
My question is this: Do we know the cause of the lag? If so, is it fixable via custom kernel or something similar, or do I need to go to a whole separate ROM to get away from the problem (and are there any in particular that are recommended if that is the case)?
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I tried CM a while back (WAY back, actually - pre-ICS) for the i717. It wasn't bad but after a while I went back to stock because for me it just 'felt' better. Hard to explain it other than that. In any case, I've been on full stock ever since and was happy with it.
Then Official JB comes out from the carrier and my phone is laggy as all hell and it's gotten to the point of royally pissing me off to the point that I'm considering my options.
My question is this: Do we know the cause of the lag? If so, is it fixable via custom kernel or something similar, or do I need to go to a whole separate ROM to get away from the problem (and are there any in particular that are recommended if that is the case)?
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Check this thread out. It's titled slow 4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314464
440bro said:
Check this thread out. It's titled slow 4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314464
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I've disabled a lot of apps, but I will go back and compare to that list and see about disabling some more that I may have missed. Thanks
tigerknight said:
I've disabled a lot of apps, but I will go back and compare to that list and see about disabling some more that I may have missed. Thanks
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Have you done a factory data reset since the upgrade? That seems to clear up a lot of issues too.
440bro said:
Have you done a factory data reset since the upgrade? That seems to clear up a lot of issues too.
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I don't recall, but if I had to venture a guess I'd say probably not. I followed the above thread to the 'slow 4.1.2' and disabled everything I could on that list and did a restart, not sure which one did the trick but now it's nice and speedy.Hoping it stays this quick and isn't just a factor of not a lot built up in memory yet. I'll try a factory reset if it bogs down again.
there could also be some existing apps that continue to run in the background.
you might either go into app manager and force close them and clear their cache individually
OR
maybe reboot phone every day or two. clearing any cache build up. kind of a preventative maintinence thing.
if you ventured new ROM, may I suggest Padawawn.
every phone is a bit different, but I have had the best results ever
4.2.2 ROMs perform better IMO. Good luck
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i prefer stock as well and was also experiencing lag until i found the right setup for myphone. started out by debloating. then flashed phasekernel_jb.3 and use setcpu or whatever tuner app you prefer and set governor = fantasy/scheduler = sio/min = 384/max = 1728. all phones are different so you may need to try different settings to find what works for yours. i have not had any lag since.
Here is what worked for me. I had the same issue as you and posted it a while back. This also greatly increased my battery life. I suggest that if you are rooted go ahead and wipe the device - in fact do it twice! You will have to reinstall of you your apps but it got rid of all the lag and almost doubled my battery life.
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Here is what worked for me. I had the same issue as you and posted it a while back. This also greatly increased my battery life. I suggest that if you are rooted go ahead and wipe the device - in fact do it twice! You will have to reinstall of you your apps but it got rid of all the lag and almost doubled my battery life.
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When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
lanwarrior said:
When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
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You wipe the caches. If you wipe system, it will delete the OS and the data wipe will wipe your data of course.
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briand.mooreg said:
You wipe the caches. If you wipe system, it will delete the OS and the data wipe will wipe your data of course.
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OK.
I am ready to do the factory reset twice. My Note is rooted and have SuperSU. If I factory reset, wouldn't it remove SuperSU also but NOT TWRP?
If yes, can I just install the SuperSU zip from TWRP? No need to re-root?
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OK.
I am ready to do the factory reset twice. My Note is rooted and have SuperSU. If I factory reset, wouldn't it remove SuperSU also but NOT TWRP?
If yes, can I just install the SuperSU zip from TWRP? No need to re-root?
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You will have full root. I always wipe both caches, system and data when flashing a new ROM, its actually the preferred way.
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You will have full root. I always wipe both caches, system and data when flashing a new ROM, its actually the preferred way.
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Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..
lanwarrior said:
Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..
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It can be done by pressing at the same time Volume up and Power buttons until the display lights up, which is when you have to release Power button, while at the same time you should keep pressing the Volume Up button.
If you wish to keep your current ROM DON'T wipe system.
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When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
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Just the normal wipe -the first one on the selection menu.
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Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..[/QUOTE
many people just disable the lock screen to fix lag
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Several users swear by wiping or flashing multiple times. However, the explanations often seem like superstitions.
I would think if a single wipe didn't completely clear a partition, that would be a bug of the recovery software.
I would think if a ROM didn't install right with a single flash, that would be a bug of the ROM.
Thoughts?
I agree with your thoughts. I've never had a problem with just wiping once and/or flashing once. Not sure what wiping and/or flashing more than once would do if it didn't work the first time lol.
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I wipe atleast twice and flash once. Just check the md5 of the zip before flashing and there shouldn't be errors
Idk why someone would need to flash more than one time, and there's scripts to wipe 5 to 10 times automatically
But I wipe twice just to feel I got everything but I know one time is enough lol
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I figured as such. Just wanted to make sure.
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Several users swear by wiping or flashing multiple times. However, the explanations often seem like superstitions.
I would think if a single wipe didn't completely clear a partition, that would be a bug of the recovery software.
I would think if a ROM didn't install right with a single flash, that would be a bug of the ROM.
Thoughts?
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There was a problem a long time ago involving clockwork recovery where wiping wasn't working all the time. At that time it was suggested to perform multiple wipes on that recovery. I think this all started and sort of stuck since then.
A developer friend of mine once said about wiping and changing ROMs...
"I treat wiping for a ROM change like taking a crap, you wipe and wipe until it's clean, then wipe one more time just to make sure I got everything."
Doesn't really answer the OPs question, just comes to mind every time someone says wipe more than once.
I wipe once because I like to live dangerously ... ohh we are talking about phones
but in honesty I never had a problem wiping once.