should i need s-off to install a international firmware on my at&t one ?
or else i can do it with s-on ?
yogikratos said:
should i need s-off to install a international firmware on my at&t one ?
or else i can do it with s-on ?
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Yes you need to be s-off in order to install firmware that does not match your CID or MID.
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You need s-off if you are going to run a different carriers ruu if you want to run a custom rom from the international forum you can be s-on or s-off
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yogikratos said:
should i need s-off to install a international firmware on my at&t one ?
or else i can do it with s-on ?
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I just went through this process and S-OFF is not enough, you also need to change your MID otherwise OTAs will fail. I will write something up soon on what I did to convert my ATT to International ROM.
Just got my One today, coming from an S-Off One X. Is getting S-Off deemed important on the One?
##Update##
Realized how easy it was to obtain S-Off compared to the HTC One X (which admittedly was pretty easy already) and went ahead and did it anyways
Honestly if you need to ask this type of question do not attempt it, just because its on here doesnt mean its a necessity...htc dev unlock the phone and flash a custom rom and be happy with that for now until youve read read and read some more....
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Ok, just as with any other device I have ever rooted, I would like to have an out just in case. So with that said, before I go ahead and root my Jetstream, I would like to know how exactly we should go about unrooting it if need be. I see that Football posted a PG09IMG for the stock ROM, can we just flash that from the bootloader and obtain S-ON and whatnot or is there something else we need to do?
Your jetstream is AT&T version
If yes you can't flash PG09IMG till you have S-OFF and changing Super CID
bmw-boy said:
Your jetstream is AT&T version
If yes you can't flash PG09IMG till you have S-OFF and changing Super CID
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Yes, its from AT&T, and I know you have to have S-OFF to flash the PG09IMG, I was taking about if I root it and want to get S-ON back. And pardon my ignorance, but I have no idea what changing Super CID is
CID. Is carrierID each particular carrier has ID once I change it you'll able flash any Rom
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CID. Is carrierID each particular carrier has ID once I change it you'll able flash any Rom
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Ok, but does that mean that flashing that PG09IMG will give us S-ON and therefore be unrooted?
Flash a rom or RUU can unroot your device but its not change the security flag. So if you have an s-off device it will be remain s-off anything you do. If you have an s-on device its the same. Cid is the carrier id number. That number prevent you from flashing another region or operator rom or to debrand your device. If you have supercid (1111111) you can flash any rom you like.
If your eg. Jetstream has root,s-off,supercid,unlocked bootloader its like heaven and you own a fully unlocked tablet which you can flash any rom,custom rom, kernel etc.
Ok, I have S-ON. So say I follow DooMLoRD instructions to gain root, install his custom recovery and kernel. What would I do to unroot the device?
Nothing. You need an official ATT RUU to unroot but it is not available on the internet.
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I'm not new to rooting, I've rooted Samsung phones, Motorola and nexus. This is my first HTC phone and man is everything different. Could some one please explain to me what S-off is using dummy terms lol. I mean if I root but stay s-on can you still flash Roms?
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Getting Soff can unlock you boot loader and if u do it through htc devs it unlocks your our boot loader but keeps Son but it's you use revone , it would unlock Son to soff and you are able to change CID and flash radios thru hboot but you can flash any rom that is compatible to the htc one but just unlocking the bootloader. You don't necessary need soff to flash Roma but it's good to have off thru if u want to return you phone back to the carrier and remove Tampered and return done back to stock !!!!
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Billyrouth said:
I'm not new to rooting, I've rooted Samsung phones, Motorola and nexus. This is my first HTC phone and man is everything different. Could some one please explain to me what S-off is using dummy terms lol. I mean if I root but stay s-on can you still flash Roms?
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I'm not sure the last post was clear for a NOOB. S-On / Off refers to the security of the device. With S-On, the phone will only allow you to flash things built for your device. This prevents you from messing up the phone by flashing the wrong stuff or wrong area of the memory.
You can unlock your phone without S-Off, root it, and flash any ROMs you like, so long as they are for your particular phone model.
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I'm not sure the last post was clear for a NOOB. S-On / Off refers to the security of the device. With S-On, the phone will only allow you to flash things built for your device. This prevents you from messing up the phone by flashing the wrong stuff or wrong area of the memory.
You can unlock your phone without S-Off, root it, and flash any ROMs you like, so long as they are for your particular phone model.
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and can you return to stock without S-Off? Should the need arise…..
metropical said:
and can you return to stock without S-Off? Should the need arise…..
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Yes, just flash an RUU.
metropical said:
and can you return to stock without S-Off? Should the need arise…..
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Are the official ruu's on the HTC website?
I would like to find the official ROM with the 1.44hboot
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I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
toaks said:
I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
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Sorry dude, pretty much screwed until they find a work around for the .11 update. I made the mistake of accidentally S-On and forgetting to lock instead of relocking my bootloader (wanted to return for warranty purposes). After that I've tried pretty much everything from downgrading to the stock ROM using customs ROMS trying to edit RUU's to work with my phone (Do not try this, easiest way to brick your very expensive phone) Nothing works as of now, Htc and t-mobile screwed us by not giving us the Stock RUU they knew what they were doing. But yes you have to wait.
*NOTE* On the otherhand i did learn that i didn't need to lock my bootloader to return it for warranty purposes the guy at the t-mobile store replaced it right there for me no questions asked. But the replacement i got came with the updated .11 ROM which means no S-Off for me still.
Damn. That's what I was afraid of. I just kept reading that as long as you had 1.44 h-boot it was still possible, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Well thanks anyway for responding.
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Wait I thought you could s-off with that hboot i thought 5xxx was unable to s-off
You can s-off hboot 1.44 as long as you haven't taken the latest tmobile ota or used the tmobile ruu, they patched whatever it was that allowed us to s-off in the latest version
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Can we downgrade?
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
Tylormde said:
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
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Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582&page=469
Lots of info there. Some of it conflicting but in a nutshell, no if you've taken the .11 update from T-Mobile.
i would wait till revone or moonshine get a fix on it.
Or go the HTC dev way
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Tylormde said:
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
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I have tried this and was unsuccessful. Luckily I was able to run the RUU and it was fine again but it won't achieve S-OFF
You can downgrade from .11 to .8 using a custom ruu. Google " downgrade from .11 to .8 rootzwiki" and you'll find it.
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Ok guys not to sound stupid but I've rooted plenty of phones and have had pretty much every top tier phone. I've rooted all my android phones. I just don't understand the s-off portion of it all. I have s-off and currently rooted. What advantage do I have over someone that doesn't have s-off? I got my one already rooted so I never went through the process. I guess that's why I'm confused. I'm used to Samsung phones.
When the update comes next week should i just wait for a rooted version of it? I'm assuming so.
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S-OFF basically allows you to do 2 main things you couldn't otherwise pertaining to Roms and such:
1- flash unsigned RUUs. You can flash custom firmware that don't belong to your device. IE: you can flash the newest 4.3 firmware prior to 4.3 releasing for the T-Mobile One.
2: get yourself out of a jam. Here's a great example. Let's say you flashed the stock GPE recovery and ROM. Your S-ON. You wanted the full GPE experience. Your phone took the newest update. It will flash 1.54 Hboot and update the boot loader to the black GPE version although you are S-ON and not running the GPE device. Without S-ON your SOL if you needed to go back to stock for whatever reason because the HBoot can't be rolled back on S-ON.
Its a good protection to have in your back pocket IMO
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So that would explain how I am able to flash Roms from the international version. Well I guess I better be careful with any RUUs that are to come. I need to figure out how I'm going to update when the tmobile One's 4.3 update comes this week.
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Jjday7 said:
So that would explain how I am able to flash Roms from the international version. Well I guess I better be careful with any RUUs that are to come. I need to figure out how I'm going to update when the tmobile One's 4.3 update comes this week.
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So once S-OFF is achieved, can flashing any RUU set it back to S-ON? If so, how can that be avoided?
I have a tmobile phone flashed with launch WWE firmware; don't care about WiFi calling or any carrier bloat, but did want the 1700 HSPA+. I'm thinking of clean flashing to latest Tmobile RUU to get the supposed LTE reception improvements, then going from there to back to launch WWE and to latest WWE (to try to retain settings).
zaos said:
So once S-OFF is achieved, can flashing any RUU set it back to S-ON? If so, how can that be avoided?
I have a tmobile phone flashed with launch WWE firmware; don't care about WiFi calling or any carrier bloat, but did want the 1700 HSPA+. I'm thinking of clean flashing to latest Tmobile RUU to get the supposed LTE reception improvements, then going from there to back to launch WWE and to latest WWE (to try to retain settings).
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No you would have to purposely set it back to s-on, an RUU won't do it. Would you be doing the tmobile Thu then installing WWE Rom ? Or flashing WWE RUU? Cause the ruu would just reset everything XP
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grim489 said:
No you would have to purposely set it back to s-on, an RUU won't do it. Would you be doing the tmobile Thu then installing WWE Rom ? Or flashing WWE RUU? Cause the ruu would just reset everything XP
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I'm thinking:
Full backup with twrp
Flash ruu
Restore backup with twrp
Apply WWE update
Oh yeah then that should work just wanted to make sure :thumbup:
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grim489 said:
Oh yeah then that should work just wanted to make sure :thumbup:
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Thanks. It does seem a bit like voodoo magic but I want to avoid any possible issues that people in the radio only thread have reported.
use rumrunner to achirve s-off. thats the only way then use revone to reset tamper
toaks said:
I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
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use rumrunner to achieve s-off then use revone to reset tampered flag on your bootloader.
Hi all. I've just ordered a One through ATT, PN07120. I've been reading around this forum for a week or so before deciding on the One and there's still a few things I'm uncertain about.
#1 Is there any difference as to root and s-off methods between the ATT model and the International?
#2 Are the ROMs and firmwares in the HTC One forum compatible with this device?
#3 Which is the currently preferred method of s-off, rumrunner or revone? Or does that all depend on what hboot my phone ships with?
Thanks for any advise.
spiralout1 said:
Hi all. I've just ordered a One through ATT, PN07120. I've been reading around this forum for a week or so before deciding on the One and there's still a few things I'm uncertain about.
#1 Is there any difference as to root and s-off methods between the ATT model and the International?
#2 Are the ROMs and firmwares in the HTC One forum compatible with this device?
#3 Which is the currently preferred method of s-off, rumrunner or revone? Or does that all depend on what hboot my phone ships with?
Thanks for any advise.
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Well, root and s-off are two complete different things.
If you get s-off you would be able to install most rims if it all .
It really depends on your hboot but preferable rumrunner.
Check this guide... It give all the steps to get it successfully to the s-off point
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49211347
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TopoX84 said:
It really depends on your hboot but preferable rumrunner.
Check this guide... It give all the steps to get it successfully to the s-off point
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49211347
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Thanks for the link TopoX. For my other questions, I understand root and s-off. I guess I should have just asked if, for all intents and purposes, the ATT model and the International model are the same.
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Thanks for the link TopoX. For my other questions, I understand root and s-off. I guess I should have just asked if, for all intents and purposes, the ATT model and the International model are the same.
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yes the steps and software are the same
I have AT&T phone and have flashed many of the international roms without any problems. ViperOne - InsertCoin - ARHD - MaximusHD all work fine.
unlock bootloader @ htcdev.com
flash custom recovery (TWRP)
Flash SuperSU (Root)(this step is actually optional as most roms will include root)
Flash custom rom
Enjoy you new phone !!!
Really interested in converting my at&t branded HTC One M8 to the Unlocked HTC One M8.
I've been reading up and making sure i'm correct in what I'll need to do to get there. I'm really not interested in keeping root, unlocked boot-loader, or s-off once I convert. I just want at&t gone and ota's from HTC.
I'll need to unlock the boot-loader, Root, and s-off my phone.
I'm under the impression that the at&t M8 shares the same MID with the Unlocked and Developer editions so i'll only need to change the CID?
After changing the CID to the unlocked edition from HTC I can run the official RUU from HTC to convert the phone?
Once converted I Have no desire to keep s-off or an unlocked boot-loader unless it would cause an issue re-enabling either.
Once s-off real simple,change cid to BS_US001 run the 3.28.1540.5 ruu and done.
phoenixms said:
Really interested in converting my at&t branded HTC One M8 to the Unlocked HTC One M8.
I've been reading up and making sure i'm correct in what I'll need to do to get there. I'm really not interested in keeping root, unlocked boot-loader, or s-off once I convert. I just want at&t gone and ota's from HTC.
I'll need to unlock the boot-loader, Root, and s-off my phone.
I'm under the impression that the at&t M8 shares the same MID with the Unlocked and Developer editions so i'll only need to change the CID?
After changing the CID to the unlocked edition from HTC I can run the official RUU from HTC to convert the phone?
Once converted I Have no desire to keep s-off or an unlocked boot-loader unless it would cause an issue re-enabling either.
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
Once s-off real simple,change cid to BS_US001 run the 3.28.1540.5 ruu and done.
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So what about returning to s-on and locking the boot-loader after converting?
Will i receive OTAs from HTC?
Ive never had to return to s-on or relock bootloader to recieve otas from htc so from my experience Ill say not needed and will still get otas as long as have stock system and recovery wont be an issue recieving otas.
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So what about returning to s-on and locking the boot-loader after converting?
Will i receive OTAs from HTC?
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phoenixms said:
So what about returning to s-on and locking the boot-loader after converting?
Will i receive OTAs from HTC?
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Neither a relocked bootloader nor s-on are needed to OTA.
phoenixms said:
So what about returning to s-on and locking the boot-loader after converting?
Will i receive OTAs from HTC?
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Stay unlocked and S-OFF just in case you decide to go back for whatever reason
jball said:
Stay unlocked and S-OFF just in case you decide to go back for whatever reason
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Agree. This gives you a lot more options, and no benefit to RELOCKED bootloader and S-on.
Used HTVDev to unlock boot-loader then Sunshine for s-off. Changed the CID to Developer edition and ran the HTC RUU for the unlocked/developer edition and haven't looked back. No at&t bloat to spoil the party. I'm probably going to miss out on the HD Voice but I don't care. Thank you guys for the advice.
phoenixms said:
Used HTVDev to unlock boot-loader then Sunshine for s-off. Changed the CID to Developer edition and ran the HTC RUU for the unlocked/developer edition and haven't looked back. No at&t bloat to spoil the party. I'm probably going to miss out on the HD Voice but I don't care. Thank you guys for the advice.
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US Dev Edition should have VoLTE also. Look under Settings>Mobile data, and you should see an option for "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" at the bottom.
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US Dev Edition should have VoLTE also. Look under Settings>Mobile data, and you should see an option for "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" at the bottom.
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I don't see that option.
If using my rom it has it,if on standard 3.28.1540.5 it will not have it. Thats an att feature,wont be on other builds I dont think ie euro/developer.
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US Dev Edition should have VoLTE also. Look under Settings>Mobile data, and you should see an option for "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" at the bottom.
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
If using my rom it has it,if on standard 3.28.1540.5 it will not have it. Thats an att feature,wont be on other builds I dont think ie euro/developer.
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I'm using the RUU posted by HTC for the unlocked HTC One M8 for US Market "Brightstar"
You wont have support from stock developer edition for VoLTE
Wonders_Never_Cease said:
If using my rom it has it,if on standard 3.28.1540.5 it will not have it. Thats an att feature,wont be on other builds I dont think ie euro/developer.
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So to install any other ROM like yours all that would need to be done is getting a new recovery and flash ROM? But if different rexovery it won't get ota?
To install a custom ROM, custom recovery is needed,there are no ATT only based ROM's besides the one I released, all others are euro based unless completely stock cannot get ota's at all from carriers or manufacturer(HTC)
Wonders_Never_Cease said:
Once s-off real simple,change cid to BS_US001 run the 3.28.1540.5 ruu and done.
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so what version is this cid from? and where can i get the ruu?and how do i change the cid?
Links are available on here as well as tutorials for changing cid if s-off the cid i used is for the us developer build which is same exact device as att variant.