Update without plan? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. I want to update my Thunderbolt to the newest ROM, but the phone is no longer on my plan. I upgraded my phone recently, & I did it through Amazon, which doesn't allow me to change away from the phone I upgraded to for 6 months. Regardless, I want to get the new Ice Cream Sandwich update on my Thunderbolt, possibly to see if maybe I should switch back to my Thunderbolt after I make the update, but I can't do it the normal way because I don't have active service on that phone. Would anybody here happen to know of a way that I can update my phone to Ice Cream Sandwich without service, and even though my device is not rooted?

Buy a sim adapted and put the new sim in your bolt..... No activation is needed.
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I don't really understand. I'm not familiar with a SIM adapter. What does it do and where can I get one?

Since the newer sim cards are smaller than what the bolt uses people made adapters that fit the smaller sims into them. Kind of like memory card adapters. It will let you use a micro sim with your bolt without having to order a new sim for it. Just out the smaller sim into the adapter and put it into the bolt and it will work just fine without activation.
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Hi . the HTC bolt work on cdma network. If I put sim adaptor work with no activation same then prepay sim card? Thank you
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It should. The bolt doesn't activate over CDMA but by using the sim.
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If I put in bolt sim adaptor work on gsm or cdma?. Thank you
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No it will only work on CDMA or vzw lte.
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Thank you very much
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The bolt isn't a global phone.
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I should mention again that if I remove my current phone from my line before September, Amazon will charge me a $400 early termination fee. I only want to update my Thunderbolt to test out the ICS update and the new Sense engine to see if I should begin using my Thunderbolt again after I'm free of this current phone. So, without reactivating my Thunderbolt, is there a way to get this update without rooting it?

You wont be deactivating anything by putting your sim in the bolt. They won't know and won't say anything.
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Why not root the bolt and update that way and if you don't like it you can easily return to GB.
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Because I'm honest, I'll say that the answer is: I'm not smart enough to root my device
I rooted my ASUS TF300, and I can't believe I survived it. And from what I hear, that device is one of the easiest things in the world to root.
Thank you everybody very much for your input, I will try the SIM thing!

Rooting the bolt is actually an easy process if you don't have the ICS ota.
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The allinone tool should work well and I think the revolutionary method can do it without losing any data if you have the right hboot.
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disconnecktie said:
The allinone tool should work well and I think the revolutionary method can do it without losing any data if you have the right hboot.
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I thought the last update before the ICS update patched the revolutionary method
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Dark Jedi said:
I thought the last update before the ICS update patched the revolutionary method
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It did but using the downgrade method allows revolutionary to work. That's how I rooted my bolt. The hboot before it will allow for root without losing data.
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Can a new resound be rooted?

Got a quick question....I have a rooted incredible and want to switch to the resound but wasn't sure if buying a new one was the way to go. Can I still root one if it comes from verizon?
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ce250 said:
Got a quick question....I have a rooted incredible and want to switch to the resound but wasn't sure if buying a new one was the way to go. Can I still root one if it comes from verizon?
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Yes
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ce250 said:
Got a quick question....I have a rooted incredible and want to switch to the resound but wasn't sure if buying a new one was the way to go. Can I still root one if it comes from verizon?
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The Rezound will always be rootable. No update will prevent it since HTC supports the unlocking of the bootloader. Since we have that, we have root forever.

Can I Unlock Without an AT&T Account???

I'm thinking of buying a used one of these off craigslist ... but I'm on tmobile and I'm worried that I won't be able to unlock it without having an AT&T account first .... Can I unlock one of these without having an AT&T account? Most steps I've read talk about downloading an unlocker program from the market ... but without an AT&T sim card in the phone I don't think I'll be able to access the market ...
What do you all think?
You don't have to have cell network to connect to a wifi and log into market. You will need to root it also before those apps will work. Just fyi though. You will NOT get 3g/4g on T-Mobile
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Pirateghost said:
You don't have to have cell network to connect to a wifi and log into market. You will need to root it also before those apps will work. Just fyi though. You will NOT get 3g/4g on T-Mobile
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Thanks for responding!
3g/4g only involve data speeds, right? I have wifi at home and at work and do not use a data plan ... So I can root and then unlock on my home wifi without any AT&T account?
I see no reason you can't. I have done lots of phones that way.
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Pirateghost said:
I see no reason you can't. I have done lots of phones that way.
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Thanks for the reassurance!
Do you or anyone else know how to check if I have the dreaded KK6 2.3.6 version?
Haints said:
Thanks for the reassurance!
Do you or anyone else know how to check if I have the dreaded KK6 2.3.6 version?
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Check in settings maybe?
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Dreaded KK6? It ain't dreaded... It's only one flash away from being something amazing!
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I'm using my unlocked Skyrocket on T-Mobile and I am getting 4G Speeds.
I called AT&T and told them I bought the phone off Craigslist, want to use T-Mobiles network. They asked me for the IMEI and gave me am unlock code no questions asked.
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Whoops! Wrong screen shot. The above is from my Sensation.
This screenshot show working 4G on my Skyrocket.
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HateMeILoveIt said:
I'm using my unlocked Skyrocket on T-Mobile and I am getting 4G Speeds.
I called AT&T and told them I bought the phone off Craigslist, want to use T-Mobiles network. They asked me for the IMEI and gave me am unlock code no questions asked.
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And what does that have to do with this phone?
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Nick281051 said:
And what does that have to do with this phone?
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Absolutely nothing considering unlocking the 2 phones is a completely different process. On the i777 we can do it with root only. We don't have to call at&t
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Absolutely nothing considering unlocking the 2 phones is a completely different process. On the i777 we can do it with root only. We don't have to call at&t
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Exactly, lol the i777 doesn't support tmo 3g like the skyrocket does
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Help activation rooted soff rezound.

I have a rooted s-off rezound running cleanRom that I sold to a friend. The problem is that it won't activate. She got a new sim card but it just sits at the activations screen. Any ideas of how to fix. Thanks.
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scy1192 said:
dial *228
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Didn't work.
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Use My Verizon and go to "my devices". Find "switch/activate" devices and follow the directions.
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Use My Verizon and go to "my devices". Find "switch/activate" devices and follow the directions.
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If it's s off worst case scenario flash latest official ruu. Take to store. Then just unlock and flash recovery later.
But yeah, if you didn't activate the sim via Verizon wireless online its not happening
I had the same issue. I did have to runn the ruu. Make sure to s-on first
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Be sure you're SIM is seated. A poor connection can give you grief. Remove the SIM and reinstall it. I had the exact same issue. Once I reseated the SIM, mine activated right away. Give it about 3-5 minutes. The network load could cause activation to take a few minutes according to the employees at the store.
Hope this works for you. Good luck!
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Anyone have a link to the latest RUU. Can't seem to find a live link anywhere. Thanks guys.
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thunderbread said:
Anyone have a link to the latest RUU. Can't seem to find a live link anywhere. Thanks guys.
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Here is all of them
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vigor
devilsadidas said:
I had the same issue. I did have to runn the ruu. Make sure to s-on first
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Eww. No need to s on to run an ruu
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[Q] Sim card won't read

I flashed a new kernel and my Dna went into a loop on the white screen. I got into recovery and flashed back to Nos M7 v1.0.6 with stock kernel. Now it has no signal and can not call out. It keeps saying perparing sim card. Anybody had this happen?
The same issue you describe happened to me a couple of weeks ago and now my phone works only 2g. Have you tried using it in gsm only mode?? What kernel have you flashed? Beastmod?
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Yeah and it come up with no service. The last kernel was beast mod 5.0
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bryant23109 said:
Yeah and it come up with no service. The last kernel was beast mod 5.0
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Are you on Verizon? Because I'm a gsm user. As far as I know the only fix for this is to replace the phone. I cannot since I bought this phone online and I'm using it in another country overseas so send it back for replace it'll cost me 200+.
The 3g/4g antenna is a very delicate coil, during the beastmod flashing bootloop the phone got extremely hot so the antenna coil should be damaged/grounded.
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Thanks for the info. I have just got the phone back to stock. Time to call Verizon to get a replacement!
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It sucks because I will most likely get a updated replacement
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Verizon sent me updated replacement and new sim card but I did a factory reset with the new sim card and my old phone is up and running. They told me it must of been just a bad SIM so I could just send back the new phone
The tec told me there is going to be a new update in 2 week but wouldn't say if it was sense 5
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I doubt there will be an update in 2 weeks most of those reps don't have a clue what they are talking about. I called one time because my data was gone and the rep had the same phone and he said "oh my data hasn't been working eaither" he walked me through steps I had already gone through and fixed his issue but then proceeded to tell my my modem was dead. Well I told him it wasn't o got transfered to a higher tier and they fixes it. But we will just have to see I guess. Hopefully that's the case that we get one and get sense 5 that would be nice for those of us who are locked down.
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[Q] No 3g after Flash

I recently flashed my thunderbolt, and simply am stuck trying to get 3g to work. I've read countless threads about it in multiple forums, but I just cant figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I am now going bald.
Which ROM are you using and which ROM did you come from? GB or ICS?
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Shadow Death said:
Which ROM are you using and which ROM did you come from? GB or ICS?
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I downgraded from ICS to GB using a guide on phandroid. I believe it may have something to do with the way I flashed it, or the network not recognizing me, but I am unsure. I'm open to suggestions!
If your downgrade method didn't involve flashing the GB radios than there would be your problem. It wouldn't hurt to flash the latest GB radios just for kicks.
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Shadow Death said:
If your downgrade method didn't involve flashing the GB radios than there would be your problem. It wouldn't hurt to flash the latest GB radios just for kicks.
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Yea, I'm certain I flashed the GB radios in recovery, my good man. Could it be something else? Could you verify what I need to set my M.IP, and PPP settings to, if you know?
As long as you are on Verizon I don't see why you would have to.
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Oops! Maybe I should've added... I flashed it to boost, and I have talk and text working. Data icon displays 1x. I'm trying to get the 3g to kick. I'm using the info from my Incredible 2, which i flashed with the same account over a year ago. Everything works fine on the Incredible 2. Just no 3g on the thunderbolt.
The droid incredible 2 is a global phone and the bolt isn't. The radio in the bolt isn't capable.
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disconnecktie said:
The droid incredible 2 is a global phone and the bolt isn't. The radio in the bolt isn't capable.
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So disconnecktie, does this mean my thunderbolt is incapable of 3g because it isn't a global phone? I do not understand dude.
The bolt doesn't have an antenna that will be able to connect with the frequency boost uses for data.
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Not even 1x? Because I totally have 1x. And it works. Just reaaaaaaly slow.
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Not even 1x? Because I totally have 1x. And it works. Just reaaaaaaly slow.
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3g is a different frequency from 1x. Same for lte it's a different frequency too.
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disconnecktie said:
3g is a different frequency from 1x. Same for lte it's a different frequency too.
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Oh I see. So what do you make of those people who claim to have it working, and posted screenshots of their bolt on 3g? Are they frauds? Because the only reason I even bought this phone, is that I was under the impression that a flash would work. Would really suck if it won't... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1515994
It does work for certain carriers. Page plus comes to mind but it had been a long time since I've heard of another carriers working.
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disconnecktie said:
It does work for certain carriers. Page plus comes to mind but it had been a long time since I've heard of another carriers working.
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Cool! Well thanks anyway. I'm trying to find a way to program it to my service. Just to get the settings right, and see what happens after that. For all I know, I have the settings right, and it just won't work.
Best bet would be to pick up a sprint phone that's not locked down via ESN (correct term?). Since Boost is basically Sprint's pay as you go service.

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