Ive rooted and have been running custom roms. I guess this question is aimed towards our american friends. Is the update worth it? Or are the custom roms available better and the emergance of cm7?
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Roms are better than the 2.3.4 update from Motorola. The best ROM is cm7. But the best everything working ROM in my opinion is Alien ROM which includes webtop and HDMI.
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We may really tell only when the update is out. I once read that Motorola is delaying Gingerbread for Europe because many modifications are needed. It seems that Atrix and Atrix 4G do really have differences.
I needed to install many tweaks for making Alien #4 perform well on my European, retail Atrix (1bar bug for 3G, A-GPS, a custom kernel, ..).
Moreover, radios out there are not suited for "Euro - retail" Atrix (not 4G) running custom Gingerbread ROMs. I found that the best radios for Italy (I suppose for Europe, too) are still N_01.95.00R (the one that comes with retail Atrix, designed for Froyo) and N_01.100.00R (Orange FR radio). The first performs better in terms of battery life, the second has great connectivity. Substitute N_01.95.00R with the radio that came with your Atrix, in case.
I tried N_01.100.00R but decided to switch back to N_01.95.00R. Currently I am using Cyanogenmod because it is the ROM less built around a specific carrier. I'm quite happy with that.
Probably, the best combination will be to use the radios that Motorola will release for European customers when GB is out here plus Cyanogenmod.
Hope that this helps clarifying.
Thanks. I have seen issues with the custom roms. Mainly lacking in signal when i know i usually have a full signal. How would you flash a radio on atrix...via sbf or is there flashable roms?
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Sexywacko said:
Thanks. I have seen issues with the custom roms. Mainly lacking in signal when i know i usually have a full signal. How would you flash a radio on atrix...via sbf or is there flashable roms?
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you can do it both ways, they exist in SBF form and .zip
there is also a one bar fix that you may want to try, search for it in the dev section
Just a thought: I ended up rooting and installing CM7 within a couple of weeks of buying my Atrix. If you're not bothered about fingerprint scanner and webtop then I think it is a lot better than stock Froyo in terms of performance.
Of course, now Gingerbread is looking like it will be on European phones officially "soon" but think about it: when you've just installed gingerbread with that motoblur overlay, CM9 based on ICS will probably be making its way to devices and aren't you going to be real jealous?!
Come on, you'll probably end up with Cyanogenmod at some point so why not take the plunge now? I honestly believe if you follow the instructions and get everything installed correctly, you won't be disappointed... just happy in the knowledge you'll always be on the path to the next upgrade!
Sexywacko said:
Thanks. I have seen issues with the custom roms. Mainly lacking in signal when i know i usually have a full signal. How would you flash a radio on atrix...via sbf or is there flashable roms?
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As already posted both possibilities exist. I see from your avatar that you are a Linux user like me. Then beware that, if you will use sbf_flash for flashing sbf, never flash a radio that comes as a CWM file. sbf_flash will never overwrite it then and you will need to use Windows and RSD-Lite.
See more on a previous question posted by me. It started as a question on how to revert back to Froyo after Gingerbread update, but a very helpful user also told me about flashing radios, creating sbf radios/roms and about the sbf_flash bug
I can give or take cm7 yeah its awesome. But still too buggy. And unfortunately i hate the look of stock android. My signal is half what it should be.
So i have restored the original stock rom via cwm. Never realised how good the battery was. Heavy usage involving sat nav. Loads of wifi including facebook, market, xda and a few phone calls. 15 hours off charge and still 70%!!
Im waiting for the ota. Then maybe things may run smoother in regards radios and so on with other roms.
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I too am waiting on the official Gingerbread update for my UK Orange Atrix and fingers crossed, should be coming within the next week or two (Mid November has been quoted)
I'm still on Stock 2.2 having only had the Atrix for 1 week but am already feeling the custom Rom pull.
I guess it would be best to play with the official Gingerbread Rom for a week or two (when it comes haha) and if it's lacking then hit the custom's then - that's my plan anyways
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So i have restored the original stock rom via cwm. Never realised how good the battery was. Heavy usage involving sat nav. Loads of wifi including facebook, market, xda and a few phone calls. 15 hours off charge and still 70%!!
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Can you please tell which radio and System are installed on your Atrix now? I would like to try them on mine. Your battery usage looks awesome! Are you also using 3G when wi-fi is not connected?
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Can you please tell which radio and System are installed on your Atrix now? I would like to try them on mine. Your battery usage looks awesome! Are you also using 3G when wi-fi is not connected?
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These are what i am using....complete stock.
N_01.77.30P
4.4.35.MB860.retail.en.GB
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Interesting. I also am having the same base but a different stock radio. Mine Atrix came with N_01.95.00R. Wonder why
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I forgot i flashed a different radio. Lol the one you are using is my stock one. Which im back on now. Official Gingerbread this week!!!!!
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I installed it, the sbf for my Atrix was posted three days ago in the Firmwares Superthread. It is amazing.
It comes with N_01.100.00R radio, that perfectly works with this ROM. Great 3G connectivity, great WiFi stability, GPS gets the signal in a bunch of seconds and battery life is great: after 07hrs and 30minutes of light usage (3G on, Gmail + Twitter on and sporadic Internet browsing), the battery level is still between 90% and 80%. Best ROM I've ever used.
so have you installed the OTA gingerbread?
or have you gone custom? i'm still awaiting the official update coming this week???
i've just bought the work and play kit.....so im hoping for 2 things coming this week!!
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I installed it, the sbf for my Atrix was posted three days ago in the Firmwares Superthread. It is amazing.
It comes with N_01.100.00R radio, that perfectly works with this ROM. Great 3G connectivity, great WiFi stability, GPS gets the signal in a bunch of seconds and battery life is great: after 07hrs and 30minutes of light usage (3G on, Gmail + Twitter on and sporadic Internet browsing), the battery level is still between 90% and 80%. Best ROM I've ever used.
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Could i install that UK retail over the top of my Orange froyo firmware? I'm only rooted at the moment, haven't unlocked my BL yet
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Hi there everyone! I am a total NOOB at rooting and flashing etc I was hoping that you guys could help me. I am British, and I have an Atrix that is a french retail version 4.2.11. Is it possible to root/flash this phone without bricking it? would really appreciate feedback as the official update is meant to be coming out soon and I heard that updating to gingerbread will make it unrootable. Many thanks in advance!
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Hi there everyone! I am a total NOOB at rooting and flashing etc I was hoping that you guys could help me. I am British, and I have an Atrix that is a french retail version 4.2.11. Is it possible to root/flash this phone without bricking it? would really appreciate feedback as the official update is meant to be coming out soon and I heard that updating to gingerbread will make it unrootable. Many thanks in advance!
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updating to gingerbread does not make it unrootable it just means you need to use a different method,
you can flash with RSD if you want to try out some other builds though, just do some reading first and figure out how to fix it if you get a soft brick
Sexywacko said:
so have you installed the OTA gingerbread?
or have you gone custom? i'm still awaiting the official update coming this week???
i've just bought the work and play kit.....so im hoping for 2 things coming this week!!
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The Gingerbread OTA will lock the bootloader and probably install the malicious bootloader. We don't have info about the European OTA and the contained bootloader, so we assume that it is the same as the one contained in the USA OTA.
Therefore, I did not wait for the OTA. I indirectly installed the SBF mentioned before (it corresponds to the one I would have gotten with the OTA).
"Indirectly" means that I converted the SBF into moto-fastboot images and the radio into a radio-SBF image.
In this way I have the old, unlocked and not dangerous bootloader plus the new system, webtop and radio. It is safer in this way.
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Could i install that UK retail over the top of my Orange froyo firmware? I'm only rooted at the moment, haven't unlocked my BL yet
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Yes but first unlock the bootloader, then try the UK retail but don't flash the SBF! You should convert it to moto-fastboot images (plus the SBF-radio) and install them. It should work well in France, but try it by yourself
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Hi there everyone! I am a total NOOB at rooting and flashing etc I was hoping that you guys could help me. I am British, and I have an Atrix that is a french retail version 4.2.11. Is it possible to root/flash this phone without bricking it? would really appreciate feedback as the official update is meant to be coming out soon and I heard that updating to gingerbread will make it unrootable. Many thanks in advance!
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Regarding update to Gingerbread:
Never install the Gingerbread OTA if you want to hack your phone and you don't have experience doing it. The OTA may contain a malicious bootloader that hinders further hacking. Quite sure it contains it. For sure, if you install the GB OTA and flash a Froyo sbf, it will brick the phone. It is still possible to install custom ROMs after the GB OTA, but it is better to manually update your phone instead of doing the OTA.
I am not sure about what happens if you just flash the original Motorola Gingerbread over your official Motorola Froyo. Fur sure it will work but I think that it will install the malicious bootloader
Rooting is always possible, it will never brick your device. Since you're a beginner, give a read to the beginners guide. It also contains rooting/unlocking instructions
Can anyone tell me if its possible to use US roms like the Alien ROM reviewed by a user called Zedomax on YouTube? I'm from the UK.
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I just recently got the RAZR MAXX (opinion still forming to rate the maxx) and am giving my son my old Fascinate so he can play games and listen to music. The Fascinate was rooted but going to just go back to stock to wipe it clean and let him start from scratch. My question is, earlier driodstyle recommended staying with eh03 because he felt it was the fastest at the time. But 4ish months ago verizon pushed another software update and was wondering if that was working better than eh03 or if I should just stick with eh03..... Any responses would be helpful... Thanks...
I'm rather new to the fascinate only had mine for about a month, however the first thing i did when i got it was allow it to ota to the newest release which was eh03. I haven't heard of anything newer than eh03.
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I just recently got the RAZR MAXX (opinion still forming to rate the maxx) and am giving my son my old Fascinate so he can play games and listen to music. The Fascinate was rooted but going to just go back to stock to wipe it clean and let him start from scratch. My question is, earlier driodstyle recommended staying with eh03 because he felt it was the fastest at the time. But 4ish months ago verizon pushed another software update and was wondering if that was working better than eh03 or if I should just stick with eh03..... Any responses would be helpful... Thanks...
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That OTA was just the official OTA to EH03, rather than the leak that came out a few weeks prior. There was a leak for FA16, but nothing official ever came from it, and no one did anything with it as far as custom Roms or anything, so it must not have been worth it.
to the op, your thinking about ed05 froyo...eh03 is the latest ota update from verizon.
Curious to hear from the people that are still s-on and flashed the new ICS leak, how is your phone running? Are there any problems youve run into?
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Curious to hear from the people that are still s-on and flashed the new ICS leak, how is your phone running? Are there any problems youve run into?
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I tried it. Major change was an updated kernel. Reverted back to BAMF 2.1 with the previous kernel, as it didnt play well with the change. I'm just waiting for the roms to either be rebased or the OTA to be released. No radio changes only an updated hboot and a few fixes in the rom itself.
Would you run it over the gb rom the phone comes with as a daily driver?
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Would you run it over the gb rom the phone comes with as a daily driver?
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Mine loves the new radios, so yes. For most users; they have experienced issues with the radios. My suggestion; s-off before flashing either the old or new leak. That way if you do experience said issues, you will be able to rollback. Also, brings up the thought of being OTA compliant, but that shouldn't matter much as most of the devs here would hve a working rom based off the OTA shortly after.
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Would you run it over the gb rom the phone comes with as a daily driver?
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Quite honestly, I don't notice a difference one way or another. This leak was played better with my phone regarding mounting and recovery issues I had on the first ICS leak, but that is more an individual issue I had. As far as signal and reception , I think it is just the fact where I live all of the radios have been the same for me. I am in a rural area of wisconsin with just 3G, so haven't benefitted from 4g or difference in signal strength.
In my opinion, it's easier to s off than to flash the new firmware using the s on method and relocking bootloader and then upgrading then reunlocking and installing recovery and a rooted rom. Also, I've helped about the same amount of people with both. For some crazy reason even though the software seems a breeze to me, people get confused with so many steps I guess, and people who are performing s off and ask me to watch over their shoulder are having much better results than upgrading the firmware.
I need some answer for those who know or those who already tried. Last week i flashed verizon JB leak on my Razr Maxx GSM (Originally AsiaRetail) Im from Malaysia btw bought the phone here. Then I followed the guides step by step until the gsm patching n it work flawless.The phone is smooth,all function is working as expected. Despite some popup dialog to choose global mode or not,which is because of the leak is originally for cdma i guess,but thats not a big deal. But then I realized the network signal(HSDPA/3G) is so weak n it didnt improve. I mean,in the place where i usually get full bars for HSDPA,I only get 2 or 3 bars max. Will this change if i flashed the china leak coz well i guess its originally for GSM? I changed back to D-Wiz ROM since Im kinda not feel secured with the low signal,afraid of missing calls,sms etc. But D-Wiz is going to launch the next update based on JB leak,so we need JB kernel as base. Im afraid what if I use the verizon leak n flash D-wiz on top of it,the problem will persists.
Ok since i got no answer,i hv new question,let say i just leave the low signal problem,didnt it affect the phone's battery life? I mean,low signal=bad battery consumption isnt it?
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The phone stats:
Razr Maxx 98.72 16 XT912.Verizon.en.us
4.1.2 version
CDMA_N05.2100r LTEDC_09.1d.00
build Number 9.8.20-72_vzw-16
I have did the search with allot of reading and am now more confused of what I have in my hand.
Last last rooting I did was with the Dinc. I was satisfied with the phone until the JB update and now it sucks.
Issues with the JB now.
Radio is crappy now with 4G now having the connectivity it had. And downrite no connection in places I used to have.
Phone continually loses the sound settings for ringtones and notifications. Silent is not what I selected. It resets the sound selection randomly.
Do I currently have a rooting option on this phone?
khw1959 said:
The phone stats:
Razr Maxx 98.72 16 XT912.Verizon.en.us
4.1.2 version
CDMA_N05.2100r LTEDC_09.1d.00
build Number 9.8.20-72_vzw-16
I have did the search with allot of reading and am now more confused of what I have in my hand.
Last last rooting I did was with the Dinc. I was satisfied with the phone until the JB update and now it sucks.
Issues with the JB now.
Radio is crappy now with 4G now having the connectivity it had. And downrite no connection in places I used to have.
Phone continually loses the sound settings for ringtones and notifications. Silent is not what I selected. It resets the sound selection randomly.
Do I currently have a rooting option on this phone?
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I am probably one of the last one's to reply to you as I am basically new to rooting, and having only flashed one rom so far on my Razr Maxx. Having said that, and given that you haven't received a reply yet, let's see what I can offer.
Based upon what I know it looks as if your phone received the official OTA update because of the "16" just before the XT912. You can definitely root your phone on JB. I used the Razer Blade method which can probably be found on this board or elsewhere. Once you accomplish your root and have all of the necessary "tools" at your disposal, such as Titanium Backup (although I hear that Carbon is pretty good too, your choice), Safe Strap, etc., etc. then you are ready to go. I have noticed that the performance of my device is somewhat different with a new rom. I am using the Aviator rom.
Pay close attention to which roms you consider. There is a difference between CDMA and GSM as well as the 16 an 8 (8 being the Xmas update to JB). In fact also make sure that you are only using JB based roms and not ICS. Clearly there are others that can help you with this more than me, but I am only going by my very recent experience, even up through my first flash today! Therefore, do all the reading that you can and I hope that this was helpful. Good luck with it!
THX for the reply. I have spent a few more hours doing research across the web and have settled on the suggestions you had made. I am updating the Dinc(CM7) now incase I brick the Razr. My quandary was determining the style(Ver) of phone I had and rooting it correctly. Now to un-learn the rooting I did on the Dinc and use the newest flashing techniques.