I planned to buy a new Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, but then I noticed the free RAM is around 600 MB .
Would this RAM be sufficient enough for a smooth multi-tasking experience and with many widgets. ? ?
Initially, I thought of Samsung Note-2 which has around 0.91GB of free RAM which ofcourse ifs more than enough for any kind of multi-tasking.(but its too costky )
Is there anyway through which I can get more RAM on "Samsing Mega 6.3" ?? ?? ?? .. ....
What I thought was, the device has a total RAM of 1.5GB , so if I root the device & remove various redundant applications which I dont need & replace the launcher with a light one,
then will there be a chance to get around 800-900MB of RAM ?? ?? ??
rohitdhavade said:
I planned to buy a new Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, but then I noticed the free RAM is around 600 MB .
Would this RAM be sufficient enough for a smooth multi-tasking experience and with many widgets. ? ?
Initially, I thought of Samsung Note-2 which has around 0.91GB of free RAM which ofcourse ifs more than enough for any kind of multi-tasking.(but its too costky )
Is there anyway through which I can get more RAM on "Samsing Mega 6.3" ?? ?? ?? .. ....
What I thought was, the device has a total RAM of 1.5GB , so if I root the device & remove various redundant applications which I dont need & replace the launcher with a light one,
then will there be a chance to get around 800-900MB of RAM ?? ?? ??
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Like they say, unused RAM is wasted RAM. In my experience the RAM is more than enough to do multitasking. I have not yet experienced any slow down because of RAM even under heavy load and I have tried having multiwindow with popup play running on top.
gx3k said:
Like they say, unused RAM is wasted RAM. In my experience the RAM is more than enough to do multitasking. I have not yet experienced any slow down because of RAM even under heavy load and I have tried having multiwindow with popup play running on top.
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I echo that JB handles rame really well as mentioned above unused ram is pointless and android will kill apps or processes in memory as and wehn required that way you have a smoother experience throughout as apps are able to refresh quicker, yet when needed will be killed off by the oom memory managment
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I echo that JB handles rame really well as mentioned above unused ram is pointless and android will kill apps or processes in memory as and wehn required that way you have a smoother experience throughout as apps are able to refresh quicker, yet when needed will be killed off by the oom memory managment
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Ohh..
Thanks For that info, I didnt knew that apps are automatically killed as & when the need arises .
Then, its a good deal to buy mega 6.3.
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Ohh..
Thanks For that info, I didnt knew that apps are automatically killed as & when the need arises .
Then, its a good deal to buy mega 6.3.
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indeed it is, great phone indeed
My i9205 had around 1.1G ram of 1.32G used when new (just after boot). I uninstalled several samsung applications and it decreased to 0.9G used. If I "clear ram" I get around 600mb used. It seems to help, Chrome is seldom killed now, I can have many pages open and it does not need to reload them when coming back after doing other stuff.
You also seem to have a bit of a misunderstanding with how Linux memory management works.
It is easier to pull the RAM out of cache, and cache RAM isn't reported as "free" even though it essentially is, because it can be pressed into service as soon as it's needed and is a lot faster than taking it from the hard disk.
Linux also doesn't need "free RAM" to just be there to operate, a phone with 1.2GB "Free RAM" won't run any faster than one with 400MB free unless the processor is doing something in the background extra.
If anything, the one with 400MB will seem faster because it probably has the apps you use loaded in RAM without using any CPU so as soon as you try to open, let's say Facebook, it was already cached in RAM so it just boots right up.
Long story short, if you have 600MB free RAM, you have nothing to worry about in terms of performance on the phone.
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In the SGS task manager the RAM (after everything has been cleared states 291MB/833MB why is this please?
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jameslfc5 said:
In the SGS task manager the RAM (after everything has been cleared states 291MB/833MB why is this please?
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Answer is simple, total ram is 1024 Mb but the gpu required 129 mb. So the rest remains for programs. 291 is used by android system.
thats 542 mb free. my galaxy s when cleared shows 154/304 so only 150 free. Well over 3 times the amount is very impressive.
I hope that dosent mean theres just 290 free ram, but it might be the case. my DHD has 768mb ram and im usually around 200mb free all the time, sometimes even like 115mb when i use a few apps. android has some serious ram eating issues.
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I hope that dosent mean theres just 290 free ram, but it might be the case.
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It seems to indicate theamount of *used* RAM.
On my GII...
Samsung's Task Manager: 233MB/833MB
TasKiller: 596 M Available memory
The operating system is supposed to fill up the RAM as much as possible, Android is trying to utilize the resources at their best. "Free" RAM doesn't mean a thing, it is better used as a cache. Parts of that cache will be dropped as soon as an application needs more RAM. Windows uses RAM in a similar fashion.
You shouldn't run any "RAM freeing"-programs as they are counterproductive - typical snake-oil software.
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You shouldn't run any "RAM freeing"-programs as they are counterproductive - typical snake-oil software.
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I'm all for putting my RAM to good use, the reason why I use a TaskKiller is to exit apps which after a day of use continue to run even though I'm not using them / apps I forgot to exit.
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The operating system is supposed to fill up the RAM as much as possible, Android is trying to utilize the resources at their best. "Free" RAM doesn't mean a thing, it is better used as a cache. Parts of that cache will be dropped as soon as an application needs more RAM. Windows uses RAM in a similar fashion.
You shouldn't run any "RAM freeing"-programs as they are counterproductive - typical snake-oil software.
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Of course, but it just amazes me how much ram is needed by android. I say this because, on every android phone ive had to date, once the ram goes below 150mb, things start to really get choppy, i dont know why. I assumed by that point, every app i would use is already in the ram so it should actually make things faster, but normal things like opening apps and scrolling through menus start getting very choppy, even in apps things are choppy which lets mek now ram is low. Thats when i realize i need to do a quick reboot.
In that sense, i really have a lot of respect for apple, they do some crazy ram optimizations. I know they dont have things like widgets or whatever, but everything runs like butter, also you have to admit the iphone4 has a very high res screen and the apps are much more visually taxing but they are damn fast. But with 1gb of ram, I doubt we will be running into these issues.. I wonder if the SGS3 will have 2gb ram..hehe
sharkonland said:
Of course, but it just amazes me how much ram is needed by android. I say this because, on every android phone ive had to date, once the ram goes below 150mb, things start to really get choppy, i dont know why. I assumed by that point, every app i would use is already in the ram so it should actually make things faster, but normal things like opening apps and scrolling through menus start getting very choppy, even in apps things are choppy which lets mek now ram is low. Thats when i realize i need to do a quick reboot.
In that sense, i really have a lot of respect for apple, they do some crazy ram optimizations. I know they dont have things like widgets or whatever, but everything runs like butter, also you have to admit the iphone4 has a very high res screen and the apps are much more visually taxing but they are damn fast. But with 1gb of ram, I doubt we will be running into these issues.. I wonder if the SGS3 will have 2gb ram..hehe
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The ram issues on Android are because of how it's designed.
iOS each app has it's slice of RAM that is managed completely by the app itself. When the app exits, the OS doesn't check anything, it just flushes the whole piece of RAM, which is very quick. When 'multitasking' and the phone runs low on RAM, it can quickly flush the ram on any 'background' app without having to do any checks.. very fast operation.
Android has a far more complicated structure, with the Android system managing the RAM within each app. Each app is broken into separate blocks (activity, service, etc) and while the whole app can be flushed (with a force close), Android doesn't do this. When Android is low on RAM, it follows a set order on what to close first, such as unused activities. This takes quite a lot of calculating and slows stuff down.
All those complications are 'fixed' with the SGS2 though. Dual core means the calculations don't bother your running task. High ram means the calculations don't happen often. Works very nicely.
i use tittainium backup and freeze unwanted apps, i get around 650-700mb free
The SGS2 has 1024MB of RAM. 833MB is available to the Android system and the rest is used by the radio.
I would like to ask some users...
Somebody reported that they have 910MB of TOTAL Ram.. Some have 830+
How can i know this?
BlackRainX said:
I would like to ask some users...
Somebody reported that they have 910MB of TOTAL Ram.. Some have 830+
How can i know this?
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Task Manager
Hold down the Home Button
Task Manager
RAM
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Yep but i want to buy it from e-shop where i cant see the amount of ram..
hello all,
sorry if this has been asked before (it prolly has been, i didnt find it though):
the atrix got 1gb ram right? after a reboot there is only around 570mb free ram...
after a few days without rebooting iam stuck around 440-480mb ram...
1st: where is my 1gb?
2nd: why do i even loose more ram?
sorry iam really new to android.
thanks for the help.
There is a reserve amount for android and motoblur then whatever apps u got running in background
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There is a reserve amount for android and motoblur then whatever apps u got running in background
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yea i know android needs some itself but is it 50% ??? i mean the LG optimus only got 512mb... in my case id have 0 left... something strange here?
i got the launcherPro running. should be motoblur disabled now?.
thanks for the fast answer !
Yes it has 1gb 200mb is reserved for the webtop and 800mb is for android
you might want to read up on how linux and android USE ram also. free ram is wasted ram
is it bloatware
So its normal i only have roughly 600 mb left. Ok thx a lot.
Can you help me with another problem.?
I read somewhere that you don't need a task killer. I have always used one to get back to like 500mb. Now you tell me unused ram is wasted ram. I installed autokiller after some advice and opened some games and stuff. Later i was at 154 unused ram. After 2 hours standby i was at 237mb unused ram. Would i ever get back to 400+ ? And is it really better or at least soesnt matter for battery life?
Thx for help
Smintz said:
So its normal i only have roughly 600 mb left. Ok thx a lot.
Can you help me with another problem.?
I read somewhere that you don't need a task killer. I have always used one to get back to like 500mb. Now you tell me unused ram is wasted ram. I installed autokiller after some advice and opened some games and stuff. Later i was at 154 unused ram. After 2 hours standby i was at 237mb unused ram. Would i ever get back to 400+ ? And is it really better or at least soesnt matter for battery life?
Thx for help
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I found that to be true (not needing a task killer) but only under Gingerbread (I've noticed that since I upgraded my Nexus One to Gingerbread), but on FroYo that's not really the case, or so I've noitced.
However I found that the task killer included on the Atrix works really well (much better than any other on the Market). It's just a matter of selecting the apps that you don't want to auto close and that's it. The battery last a bit longer and the device does not heat up at all.
Cheers!
RayanMX
Heres how I see it.
On your computer, you're always scrambling for more ram right? Because you are running multiple applications at once. You have a music player, a game, chat, windows itself, antivirus etc.
On your phone, it depends more on your processor speed. You arent multitasking like crazy (and if you are your phone would start to heat up really rapidly) Android allocates ram accordingly to what you are running in the foreground and apps that arent open but were opened recently. That way, if you reopen a recently closed app, it is still in memory and will open quicker. If you don't access the closed app after a while, it will clear itself from memory. You definitely don't need a task killer for android, only more processing speed.
I only have 325 of ram
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Pirateghost said:
you might want to read up on how linux and android USE ram also. free ram is wasted ram
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Bingo. So many people freak out that they don't have enough RAM... it's getting annoying seeing as how the Android OS has been out for a long enough time to understand this now.
Even of you cant find it it doesnt matter. Your phone will tell you.
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I have like 600 when running chongoblur it quickly goes down to 400 something but still this thing is a devastator of worlds
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I don't seem to understand that why do the sIII has too less free ram, it doesn't have HTC sense either, but so what's the problem
Comparison on normal basis:
Free Ram on:
-HTC explorer = 240
-SIII = 340
-Optimus one = 330
Q1
Can someone tell me what app or the list of useless apps that are ram hungry?
Q2
Why do all devices have less ram example, Optimus one has 512 mb ram and available 421 with cm9
S3 has 1Gb and available around 760
Why, and if it is system reserved then why do we see system apps in taskillers
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Free RAM is wasted RAM in Android.
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S3 has 1Gb and available around 760
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'free' shows 778MB after conversion from KB to MB (1MB = 1024KB)
That 1GB includes hardware-reserved locations suche as for the GPU which, unlike mid- to high-end desktop computers has no real dedicated memory. Additionally there are the camera app (especially video encoding is notoriously high on RAM due to the codec specifications), the modem, ...
I'm also not sure if that 1GB is, as hardware manufacturers often tend to do, 1'000'000'000 Byte (1 GB according to hardware manufacturer'sIEC definition) or 1073741824 Byte (as defined by SI and adopted by software manufacturers)
That would reduce the capacity by a further 7.37% on RAW storage.
why do we see system apps in taskillers
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You shouldn't be using Task Killers. I still remember them being a de-facto requirement in Eclair, but since Froyo they are obsolete and cause more harm than they can do good.
(At least in theory, memory management only recently with ICS got reliable and performant enough to completely get rid of them)
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Free RAM is wasted RAM in Android.
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If you have very less free ram your phone will start lagging and your phone will become a waste phone. Is that alright for you?
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d4fseeker said:
'free' shows 778MB after conversion from KB to MB (1MB = 1024KB)
That 1GB includes hardware-reserved locations suche as for the GPU which, unlike mid- to high-end desktop computers has no real dedicated memory. Additionally there are the camera app (especially video encoding is notoriously high on RAM due to the codec specifications), the modem, ...
I'm also not sure if that 1GB is, as hardware manufacturers often tend to do, 1'000'000'000 Byte (1 GB according to hardware manufacturer'sIEC definition) or 1073741824 Byte (as defined by SI and adopted by software manufacturers)
That would reduce the capacity by a further 7.37% on RAW storage.
You shouldn't be using Task Killers. I still remember them being a de-facto requirement in Eclair, but since Froyo they are obsolete and cause more harm than they can do good.
(At least in theory, memory management only recently with ICS got reliable and performant enough to completely get rid of them)
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By the way what thing takes up so much ram
HTC phones has memory hungry sense so it's understood but what's the problem here?
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rishabho1 said:
By the way what thing takes up so much ram
HTC phones has memory hungry sense so it's understood but what's the problem here?
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Touchwiz is by far more memory hungry than sense.
joshnichols189 said:
Touchwiz is by far more memory hungry than sense.
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I see
But touchwiz has nothing special, and no flipping clock no cool widgets and no sense like cool launcher
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haha there is far more to Sense and Touchwiz than just a few widgets dude!
By the way what thing takes up so much ra
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Get houmiak Task Manager from Market and look for yourself. Many useful features are completely unnecessary for most of us, so you can freeze them to gain memory. (Don't uninstall since you can defrost frozen apps instantly if you ever needed it)
Those included for me the Exchange service, Allshare, ... . There's a whole list of apps which are safe to remove.
(Note that 'safe to remove' does not mean you won't need it: that depends on what you actually use)
But touchwiz has nothing special, and no flipping clock no cool widgets and no sense like cool launcher
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Both Touchwiz and Sense are horrors in terms of coding standards and resource consumption. If all you care about in Touchwiz is the launcher and widgets then by all means get rid of Touchwiz (I recommend CM9) and install a customizable Launcher such as Go Launcher, Apex, ...
If you have very less free ram your phone will start lagging and your phone will become a waste phone.
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"Free" memory is a very interesting defition. What do you call 'free' memory?
If an app is closed, should Android immediatly remove it from Cache? You'll probably say yes to increase free memory.
However there are multiple reasons why it's not done
- free memory is wasted memory. If the phone doesn't use it, what's the point of having it?
- it doesn't cost anything in terms of CPU-cycles to "remove" cached apps from RAM whenever the space is needed [*]
- Should you multitask back in the app, it's immediatly available. Depending on the app, even with everything exactly as you left it
[*] Well it does, but not more than immediatly removing it when the app is closed.
If you work a lot within the same app, chances are that your free memory is far below 1MB since it keeps everything in Cache if it should ever be needed. By exiting or killing an app that value increases since some data is always freed. But that does not mean the phone will magically get faster. If you still don't believe me; what if I told you that there is NO major operating system (Mac OsX, Windows NT, iOS, Linux, BSD, ...) that does not cache. You just don't see the raw values Linux shows on most of them, but faked values where the cache is substracted.
If you want details, I recommend reading about Paging ("Swap") and In-Memory Caching on Wikipedia. They have some excellent articles.
Here's a shortened easy versioN: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
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If you have very less free ram your phone will start lagging and your phone will become a waste phone. Is that alright for you?
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My phone never lags. Sometimes there is a brief delay when a screen redraws upon app change. I hardly think the phone becomes a "waste" at this point. If you want to see what lag really feels like go get a second hand HTC desire.
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It is sad that the available ram is less than on the S2 to be honest.
I'm running with 80-200mb free all the time, even been down to around 50mb when using the phone, the S2 I was never under 150mb.
But then again, the S3 is faster than the S2
extreme unstable ram usage
hawkn said:
It is sad that the available ram is less than on the S2 to be honest.
I'm running with 80-200mb free all the time, even been down to around 50mb when using the phone, the S2 I was never under 150mb.
But then again, the S3 is faster than the S2
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wow, you lucky s3 fellow, i have been experiencing ram issues, when I say that, know that I have considered the fact that more RAM used the better - more apps in memory, improves app switching/launching speed(all that philosophical BS which people give with pride, when someone posts a query on RAM. My RAM exceeds 700 MB and goes up to 796 MB with less than 50 MB at times; and this is with 10-15 trusted lightweight apps installed, This was prevalent since the stock firmware ICS and even is present after the JB update. More RAM used is good only when it doesn't affect performance, and doesn't force apps to struggling to stay in memory, causing them to frequently restart.
though i found a partial fix, which gave a lil speed boost -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787263&highlight=ram+problem
This helped me a lil(Disabling ripple effect in lockscreen), though to totally resolve the issue, i might have to go for a custom rom/kernel or hope for sammy boys to release an update soon -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926380&page=3
Folks,
I need to know weather or not is it possible to increase the current RAM for the S3. I have a international version of the S3 in which the ROM has a limitation to 779MB. I hear some devices in US and Korea have a 1GB RAM. So if the device is the same is the RAM limited on the build or the hardware? And is it possible to increase the ram with a customer ROM?
mateenf said:
Folks,
I need to know weather or not is it possible to increase the current RAM for the S3. I have a international version of the S3 in which the ROM has a limitation to 779MB. I hear some devices in US and Korea have a 1GB RAM. So if the device is the same is the RAM limited on the build or the hardware? And is it possible to increase the ram with a customer ROM?
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The international version has 1GB of RAM, I think the reason it shows 779MB is because the rest of the RAM is reserved as video memory. Don't quote me on that though.
P.S. The US and Korean versions have 2GB of RAM.
you cant increase it further 779 is the max you will get. us and international variants are different
The reason I asked is. I face alot of performance issues on the SGS3. My Memory always stays at 455 to 600MB usage. I dont have much applications installed .. Only basis ones that I need. Any ideas on optimizing the memory issue?
mateenf said:
The reason I asked is. I face alot of performance issues on the SGS3. My Memory always stays at 455 to 600MB usage. I dont have much applications installed .. Only basis ones that I need. Any ideas on optimizing the memory issue?
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Are you running the stock rom at this moment or do you have a different launcher?
Its the default rom and unrooted. And also the defualt launcher in S3
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You would be better off waiting for the Jelly Bean upgrade in a few weeks .
jje
I don't think RAM is the problem for your performance. My S3 is also running between 450 and 600 and I don't have any performance issues..
There are some tweaks you can try under Settings -> Development like animation scale and background process limit.
When do you have the performance problems?
Do u really think JB will increase perfomance? And I honestly dont think that OTA will be relased anytime in this quater! Plus i prefeer the ripple effect in ICS would samsung keep that in JB too?
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klm67637 said:
I don't think RAM is the problem for your performance. My S3 is also running between 450 and 600 and I don't have any performance issues..
There are some tweaks you can try under Settings -> Development like animation scale and background process limit.
When do you have the performance problems?
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I see battery issues at times, also when I clear RAM to free up some memory the home screen goes blank and then appears, I have formatted my phone also, but even using a plain S3 and trying to clear RAM my screen still goes blank. Is this a known issue within S3 when clearing RAM?
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you cant increase it further 779 is the max you will get. us and international variants are different
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Is this a hardware limitation or the build?
mateenf said:
I see battery issues at times, also when I clear RAM to free up some memory the home screen goes blank and then appears, I have formatted my phone also, but even using a plain S3 and trying to clear RAM my screen still goes blank. Is this a known issue within S3 when clearing RAM?
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Is this a hardware limitation or the build?
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When you clear your RAM..all the cache which was generated gets removed hence when you go to your homescreen again..that data has to be loaded again ..and hence the delay...dont try to force your phone..Android has a very good memory management ..it will do it for you..clearing RAM all the time will just make your launcher and other most used apps slow to open...
Yes it is a hardware limitation..we have only 1 GB of inbuilt RAM..of which 221 MB is used by system and the rest is left for your apps...
mateenf said:
I see battery issues at times, also when I clear RAM to free up some memory the home screen goes blank and then appears, I have formatted my phone also, but even using a plain S3 and trying to clear RAM my screen still goes blank. Is this a known issue within S3 when clearing RAM?
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So you have some battery issues.. Try JuiceDefender to increase your battery life or System Tuner to check the apps that are running in the background...
JuiceDefender:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sYXRlZHJvaWQuanVpY2VkZWZlbmRlciJd
System Tuner:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNjYzcxLnBtdyJd
klm67637 said:
I don't think RAM is the problem for your performance. My S3 is also running between 450 and 600 and I don't have any performance issues..
There are some tweaks you can try under Settings -> Development like animation scale and background process limit.
When do you have the performance problems?
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Tweaks? You shouldn't have to make tweaks to the follow up to the sgs2 with super duper quad core!
Fact is you probably do.. The sgs3 is a fail. There are undeniable performance issues. It is on par with the ZTE Blade.
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Tweaks? You shouldn't have to make tweaks to the follow up to the sgs2 with super duper quad core!
Fact is you probably do.. The sgs3 is a fail. There are undeniable performance issues. It is on par with the ZTE Blade.
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Agreed, I am really not satisfied with the performance of a quad core processor!! A quad code with a 2100 mah battery is decent but not upto mark what you expect the phone to give an output.
I was better satisfied with my galaxy note with a 2500 mAH battery which ran 3 days using EDGE and 2 days if I'm using HSPDA!!
zoot1 said:
When you clear your RAM..all the cache which was generated gets removed hence when you go to your homescreen again..that data has to be loaded again ..and hence the delay...dont try to force your phone..Android has a very good memory management ..it will do it for you..clearing RAM all the time will just make your launcher and other most used apps slow to open...
Yes it is a hardware limitation..we have only 1 GB of inbuilt RAM..of which 221 MB is used by system and the rest is left for your apps...
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But it should be possible to use a full 1GB RAM with custom ROM's. Like ive seen a MIUI ROM that allows a full 1Gb usable on the SGS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5oSnIgZ_4g
mateenf said:
But it should be possible to use a full 1GB RAM with custom ROM's. Like ive seen a MIUI ROM that allows a full 1Gb usable on the SGS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5oSnIgZ_4g
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Dear Sir, the miui rom shows you the complete 1 GB but the extra 221 mb is not available for your apps..if you have noticed even after a fresh intall the available Ram will hover somewhere around 600-700 MB and not 800-900 MB..
it is just how it is displayed and not used..
hope it will clarify your doubts..
I had huge memory leak issues. My ram used to fall even below 50 MB even after removing all bloat. I finally found the solution by moving to "Foxhund Rom". I have applied his min free ram tweaks. Now My ram never falls below 200 MB which is good enough to run heavy process.
I dont know howto increase RAM storage but there is a way to increase data storage.
Look here
LMFAO some of the comments in this thread are seriously pathetic! Performance issues with this phone? Making it comparable to ZTE Blade? Iphone users and trolls in here much?!?
This phone, bone dry stock is blazing fast and incredibly smooth and with the latest stock latest firmware the home screen redraw is so smooth it doesn't even look like it's redrawn.
With custom roms that keep 200mb clear in RAM all the time, there is no multi tasking because the phone is constantly closing apps to keep 200mb free. It's just to keep people happy that they can see free ram! If it's never used, it's useless..
Hi all,
Ok so I've got this phone a week ago, and I like it so far. Ieike the beautiful screen and the great battery life. I gave my galaxy S2 to my wife.
However, this phone has a serious issue and I am really surprised that it is not floating all over XDA: It is the RAM.
I used to install more than 120 applications on my s2. Despite that I had about 200 to 300MB of free RAM.
As a common sense, I did the same on my s3, but I ended up with around 80 to 100 mb of free RAM. I WAS SHOCKED
I tried to be more scientific so I did more investigation on this issue:
Both all phones are rooted , both running on custom ROM.
S2 on 4.1.2 XXLSJ ROM with stock Kernel. No system apps are removed. Has all bloatware.
S3 on 4.1.2 XXEMA2 ROM with stock Kernel however it is approximately completely cleaned from bloatware like ALL share , all widgets that I don't use, kies, Samsung apps, and every other irrelevant stuff.
After closing all recent/ running apps , I got In Running services :
S2 506MB RAM used / 321 MB RAM free
S3 759MB RAM used / 74MB RAM free
To get more info, I installed an application Called android status from market. It didn't show anything abnormal.
As you can see in the attached screenshots, while the running services are approximately the same, the cached processes are a lot more on the S2 since it's still bloated But still despite all that the S2 has much more free RAM!!!!
This issue is driving me crazy!!
What could be the culprit !!!?
Can anybody please enlighten me!?
Thanks
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Linux is not windows, free ram=wasted ram
The ram management is poor on S3 and multitasking is crippled.
From launcher redraws to phone and contact lag.. Everything is caused by it
There's no solution but only workarounds.
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Life Engineer said:
Hi all,
Ok so I've got this phone a week ago, and I like it so far. Ieike the beautiful screen and the great battery life. I gave my galaxy S2 to my wife.
However, this phone has a serious issue and I am really surprised that it is not floating all over XDA: It is the RAM.
I used to install more than 120 applications on my s2. Despite that I had about 200 to 300MB of free RAM.
As a common sense, I did the same on my s3, but I ended up with around 80 to 100 mb of free RAM. I WAS SHOCKED
I tried to be more scientific so I did more investigation on this issue:
Both all phones are rooted , both running on custom ROM.
S2 on 4.1.2 XXLSJ ROM with stock Kernel. No system apps are removed. Has all bloatware.
S3 on 4.1.2 XXEMA2 ROM with stock Kernel however it is approximately completely cleaned from bloatware like ALL share , all widgets that I don't use, kies, Samsung apps, and every other irrelevant stuff.
After closing all recent/ running apps , I got In Running services :
S2 506MB RAM used / 321 MB RAM free
S3 759MB RAM used / 74MB RAM free
To get more info, I installed an application Called android status from market. It didn't show anything abnormal.
As you can see in the attached screenshots, while the running services are approximately the same, the cached processes are a lot more on the S2 since it's still bloated But still despite all that the S2 has much more free RAM!!!!
This issue is driving me crazy!!
What could be the culprit !!!?
Can anybody please enlighten me!?
Thanks
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Hi
I had the same issue
HTC Desire HD (768MB RAM) - Custom ROM - Always 150-200MB free RAM
S3 i9300 (1GB RAM) - Stock ROM (cleaned, lots of services stopped etc) 100MB or less free RAM
S3 LTE i9305 (2GB RAM) - Stock ROM (cleaned, lots of services stopped etc) 600-500MB free RAM
On my Desire HD never had luancher redraws, dialer, messaing app dropping from memory but was a issue on the S3, I think its an issue with higher resolution screens and software not optimized properly (memory management).
I have seen a fair few Xperia T devices which also have 1GB RAM but they seem to have 200-300MB free RAM.
I have the S3 LTE (i9305) now and RAM usage is always above 1GB, generally around 1.1/1.2 GB.
Maybe it's just Samsung software.
Thanks
Daanlt said:
Linux is not windows, free ram=wasted ram
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Sorry to tell you but that's not true!
I can multitask easily on my S2 but I cant on my S3!! We can't just give some arguments just to convince ourselves!
I can open up to 5 apps and seamlessly switch between them while I can't do the same on my s3! It reopens the app!
Damn I'm really depressed by this sh*t! It should have been 2 RAMs!
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been discussed to death, search the other multiple threads for an answer
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Please guide me Mr. consider me as an ignorant!
All I could find was some threads in Q&A which unfortunately are only Q without any convincing A!!
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eggman89 said:
The ram management is poor on S3 and multitasking is crippled.
From launcher redraws to phone and contact lag.. Everything is caused by it
There's no solution but only workarounds.
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Please point me to some workarounds I'm ready to try some!
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I have a nexus 7 and the amount of memory used by identical apps is 2-3 times more on the s3. It must be down to the architecture of the processors and compiling.
I have to remove loads of bloat and freeze some apps when not in use to make it usable. Shocking really.
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Daanlt said:
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Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
The ram issue on the S3 is well-known. The memory management isn't as good as it could have been. I blame bloatwiz. Don't know if we should cry or laugh. They have crammed more than 800 MB of bloat in a phone that runs perfectly without it. A full odin rom is approx 1.2 GB and it's possible to reach a size of 300 MB (I know, because I have tried), by seriously cleaning up the system partition, in terms of apps and libs and it runs without a hitch, and has loads of ram left.
It also goes without saying that unused ram, is wasted ram.
yahyoh said:
Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
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If you actually read a bit of the thread instead of aggressively dismissing the post, you would have realized that the lower amount of ram is because there are more cached processes. That's where the RAM went. The underlying issue is the RAM management itself.
As others have pointed it out, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
If you don't have a good knowledge of what you are saying, better not tell others to shut up and maybe put it in practice yourself.
Also, there is no proof that there is a leak in the Mali hack job from Samsung in stock roms. It's not comparable to the leaking in CM which is completely replicable.
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More free RAM=better multitasking,it's a fact.It's only wasted if you are going to run only 1 app at a time or else android will start killing apps when your phone is running out of memory.Not to mention the annoying browser refreshes which I face a lot even when I'm running only1 app with the browser(e.g:Facebook).If I'm playing a heavy game and recieved a 1 min call, the game restarts and I lose my progress.The problem is the terrible memory management in touchwiz ROMs,I have tried out a few AOSP 4.2 ROMs before and I have to say that multitasking is much better on them and browser refreshes happen less frequently.So,if you are ok with losing TW's features, flash an aosp ROM for better multitasking.
drakester09 said:
If you actually read a bit of the thread instead of aggressively dismissing the post, you would have realized that the lower amount of ram is because there are more cached processes. That's where the RAM went. The underlying issue is the RAM management itself.
As others have pointed it out, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
If you don't have a good knowledge of what you are saying, better not tell others to shut up and maybe put it in practice yourself.
Also, there is no proof that there is a leak in the Mali hack job from Samsung in stock roms. It's not comparable to the leaking in CM which is completely replicable.
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LOL can u check how many apps are cached when when the free ram too low ( 80 or 90 MB ) u will got 1 or 2 + as soon as u close the app it will get killed instead of get cached :silly:
for god sake stop saying free ram is wasted ram ( if is that ur theory then go for 512 MB ram device its enough for u beause free ram is wasted ram ) and live with **** multitasking
and Mali driver leak is just a thought because the free ram problem only happened on JB on ICS my sister device was have about 200MB ~ most of the time
Well used to have this issue. Rooted, installed omega 40 and I can seamlessly multitask upto 6-7 apps at a time. Try omega rom, multitasking is great in this rom.
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yahyoh said:
Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
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So what you are saying the apps are not cached they are kept in RAM, please learn what caching is, cached apps are stored in the cache partition of the phone, they are not cached in the RAM otherwise the phone is doing nothing with them.
Android works by moving background apps to the internal memory, if you switch your phone on check RAM usage, then open apps using the home button to get back to the home screen and check it you will see that no matter how many apps you open the free and used RAM values barely change up to a certain point, this is the app caching at work.
If you home out of apps you will see why Android caches apps.
Running stock ELLA I just used the recent apps, and home button, opened 7 apps and used the home button to return to the home screen, no launcher redraws, and my apps all opened instantly where they were.
yahyoh said:
LOL can u check how many apps are cached when when the free ram too low ( 80 or 90 MB ) u will got 1 or 2 + as soon as u close the app it will get killed instead of get cached :silly:
for god sake stop saying free ram is wasted ram ( if is that ur theory then go for 512 MB ram device its enough for u beause free ram is wasted ram ) and live with **** multitasking
and Mali driver leak is just a thought because the free ram problem only happened on JB on ICS my sister device was have about 200MB ~ most of the time
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Well said:thumbup:
I'm also sick of listening about "free ram is wasted ram".
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I dont see any problems here, this isn't just turned on either.
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Mine always hovers around 650/832... Even if i have crap ton of apps running,
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