Speakerphone echo - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

So wife has a note i717. Prevents me from flashing 800 ROMs a week to try different options. Took me a year to convince her to root.. Would like to know what date cm changed code and got the echo. Was it at the 4.2.2 release? Read somewhere that it happens in April. Does black star suffer the same issue? Does black star offer lockscreen shortcuts if it doesn't? What about cm9.

mavpts said:
So wife has a note i717. Prevents me from flashing 800 ROMs a week to try different options. Took me a year to convince her to root.. Would like to know what date cm changed code and got the echo. Was it at the 4.2.2 release? Read somewhere that it happens in April. Does black star suffer the same issue? Does black star offer lockscreen shortcuts if it doesn't? What about cm9.
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I am not a developer, but I think codes can change quite regularly. I don't think the echo is due to the code, I think it is limited to a ROM or 2 and last I check, the OP stated the in the list of problems. not sure of solution, I think most suffered from it with speakerphone on.
4.1.2 was a release........4.2 is pretty much a tweak of a release merging several different sources together. the ROM's which have the echo issue are 4.2 ROM's and use a CM Kernal. that may be where the issue is. the 4.2 ROM's are AOSP. many have had fixes to various problems by flashing an alternate Kernal.
go to the thread for what ROM you are running, you didn't say, but I can guess. any alternate Kernal may be ROM specific, so consult your thread. reading your post is leading me to think your not reading yourself.
THE 4.1.2 ROMS are Touchwiz and do not suffer echo
good luck

Blackstar jelly beta doesn't seem to have any bugs been running a few weeks no issues what so ever if you want a reliable phone stick with 4.1 I seem to not be able to find 4.2 quite there yet
Goodluck
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That's to bad. It seems that the only problem with cm10.1.2 was the hw overlay thing and the speaker echo. I love that Rom on my HTC rezound. Seems some of the devs leave out known bugs.
Thanks for all the help.
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All CM and AOSP based ROMS have had this problem for a while. This is another big reason why I switched back a TW based rom...everything works. I use speaker phone often and the distant end parties would complain that the speaker audio was unusable....
Really sux!

So forgive the ignorance but is it that only one mic is working and not noise cancelling the echo like it should? They found a solution for that on my phone. Just not sure if the fault is the same.
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Still no solution I guess?

rickneworleansla said:
Still no solution I guess?
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Not that I've heard. About to give cm9 a try though.
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It's been a year and this still hasn't been solved??

Sloogle_Flugelmann said:
It's been a year and this still hasn't been solved??
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As far as I know it hasn't. I've been looking everywhere for a solution. I'm going back to ICS until I can get a new phone.

rickneworleansla said:
As far as I know it hasn't. I've been looking everywhere for a solution. I'm going back to ICS until I can get a new phone.
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I found a 4.2.2 ROM that does not have the echo. It's the ParanoidKANGdroid ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216645
Download the Previous Release from April 13th. That was the older CM kernel before the echo.
The only real problems I found were that the Apollo and Camera/Gallery apps sometimes crash.
I just took the Gallery2.apk from CM 10.1.3 and it fixed it. I'm about to try to take the Apollo.apk from it as well.

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So Basically no stable JB Rom exists

I have tried all JB roms for the AT&T Samsung Note 1. Now I am currently running Collective. I have over the past 5 months read through all their Forums and troubleshooting and have followed all instructions to the T. I wont be bashed or called a noob because all phones are not alike and some users don't have certain issues from what I read. BUT others have most definitely had my issues lol. I get random reboots, also seems like phone does not update properly like updates for apps through play store. I reboot my phone and all of a sudden i get new emails and there's 5 updates where my phone while on told me nothing about them. The reboots are the bigger issue. Is there no Stable JB rom out there? I keep being told go back to ICS, which I am believing that after JB being out for so long nobody is able to make the roms stable. Never seen such a long period of no stable rom coming out for a phone. Appreciate any advice ty
Hmm, there is two that I know of now. Cyanogen mod 10, and paranoid android which has cm10 as a base
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I have tried all JB roms for the AT&T Samsung Note 1. Now I am currently running Collective. I have over the past 5 months read through all their Forums and troubleshooting and have followed all instructions to the T. I wont be bashed or called a noob because all phones are not alike and some users don't have certain issues from what I read. BUT others have most definitely had my issues lol. I get random reboots, also seems like phone does not update properly like updates for apps through play store. I reboot my phone and all of a sudden i get new emails and there's 5 updates where my phone while on told me nothing about them. The reboots are the bigger issue. Is there no Stable JB rom out there? I keep being told go back to ICS, which I am believing that after JB being out for so long nobody is able to make the roms stable. Never seen such a long period of no stable rom coming out for a phone. Appreciate any advice ty
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My first experience with CM10 was that it was not stable, especially coming from CM9 which was rock solid but the last week or so of builds have performed very well for me. Within the last week my phone has rebooted 2x's on me. Both were just as I hung up a call the screen froze then the phone rebooted. Otherwise, I have not had any issues. My previous ROM was JellyBeer which as not quite as stable but still pretty good. I did clean wipes, loaded CM10 (latest) then JB GAPPS 20121011. After rebooting the phone I run "fix permissions" from CWM. I go to the play store and download my apps from there and not from a back up. Hope this helps, good luck.
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I have tried all JB roms for the AT&T Samsung Note 1. Now I am currently running Collective. I have over the past 5 months read through all their Forums and troubleshooting and have followed all instructions to the T. I wont be bashed or called a noob because all phones are not alike and some users don't have certain issues from what I read. BUT others have most definitely had my issues lol. I get random reboots, also seems like phone does not update properly like updates for apps through play store. I reboot my phone and all of a sudden i get new emails and there's 5 updates where my phone while on told me nothing about them. The reboots are the bigger issue. Is there no Stable JB rom out there? I keep being told go back to ICS, which I am believing that after JB being out for so long nobody is able to make the roms stable. Never seen such a long period of no stable rom coming out for a phone. Appreciate any advice ty
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You must be ON CRACK? The PAC MAN rom is the most stable rom i have ever ran.... and i've tried them all. NO random reboots and no issues. give it a shot man
Isn't the cm10 Jellybean kernel for the note just a modified ICS Kernel with bits and pieces from other kernels put in one package in order to run Jellybean. There's the stability issue. There's no source for the GN Jb kernel yet so they'll be issues. In my experience reboots and lost data connection. That's why I went back to ICS. Everything works. But I would like to check out Paranoid Android 3.0 ,4.2 aospa builds coming out soon. Don't know if there using a cm kernel or in-house built.
Novena injected I717 Samsung Galaxy Note
Nov 8 PA and linero (pacman) kernel and only get a reboot one every 5-7 days . Were on all others was like 3-4 a day . Also I have found (I could be crazy) but when a reboot yellow screen of death occurs power off the phone then restart seems to stop the reboots for much longer ,not that I need to do it anymore.
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Isn't the cm10 Jellybean kernel for the note just a modified ICS Kernel with bits and pieces from other kernels put in one package in order to run Jellybean. There's the stability issue. There's no source for the GN Jb kernel yet so they'll be issues. In my experience reboots and lost data connection. That's why I went back to ICS. Everything works. But I would like to check out Paranoid Android 3.0 ,4.2 aospa builds coming out soon. Don't know if there using a cm kernel or in-house built.
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DING DING DING!!!
No source, mo' problems!
We need source to drop for JB, especially the kernel source...
Until then, we can get "good" builds, but not "Great" builds...
Source is the key, and according to Samsung, the note will get the official upgrade in december...I dont know more than that.....g
so was there ever a great 4.04 aosp or aokp rom for the i717??
by great i mean everything working.. hdmi, usb otg, etc...
on the s2 it seemed that as soon as the source dropped everyone went to jellybean..
so there never was a near flawless build.. and there never were sources for the hdmi and some other drivers..
i dont see it being different on any samsung product..
See this is why I made this thread. Simply put I spend countless hours searching threads and topics and I jsut got 90% of my answers there. I have used cm Roms in the past and I liked them. I am not a expert at rooting but one gets there over time. I really do not think any question is a stupid one but where it posted can be wrong place to post. I do very much appreciate everything everyone has posted. If you have any other imput or great ideas please post. Again ty very much:good:
THE most important thing to remember is that no 2 phones will act the same on every ROM, so, anytime someone says a certain rom is great, or another one sucks, you can only take that with a grain of sand....the ONLY way to know how any rom will run for you is to install it on YOUR phone.
As others have said, until there is source from Samsung, NO JB rom will run perfectly 100% of the time for everyone, so, if you don't want to deal with the possibility of reboots or other weird issues, you are probably best sticking with an ICS rom...
Actually, I have found the JB's to be more stable than the ICS Roms. I have found AOKP Milestone 1 the most stable. No reboots and offers tabletUI if you want it.
Right now, I am running Dman's PACman and find it to be very smooth and stable.
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I have been using AOKP Milestone 1 and haven't had many issues. There are a few bugs but nothing show stopping. I run mine at 240DPI and it looks beautiful and have only had 1 reboot. I would give it a try.
On crack lol appropriate but ok. I tried pacman at one point I loved all roms but no phones are equal ever jb rom at some point gave me reboots. Sporting padawan at the moment loving it
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JB 4.2.2 ROM Without Bluetooth Lag?

Which JB 4.2.2 ROMs don't have the bluetooth/dialer lag issue?
I believe this is a bug in CM 10.1, from what I've read. I'm just wondering if anyone has been able to fix it...
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DarthSudo said:
Which JB 4.2.2 ROMs don't have the bluetooth/dialer lag issue?
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Tasks latest ROM. Had to use the dialer in call this morning, did not notice much lag, if any. ( but then it was just a one digit press going through the VM menus)
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Tasks latest ROM. Had to use the dialer in call this morning, did not notice much lag, if any. ( but then it was just a one digit press going through the VM menus)
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I can attest to the opposite - it's there and it's obvious. ROMs for the i777 stem from one of two sources, Samsung or CM variants. ATT only released 4.1.2. to the i777 a few days ago, and Samsung to the i9100 before that. CM is on 4.2.2 but as you mentioned, that is where the bug originates. Therefore the CM derivatives, i.e. AOKP, all fall prey to it.
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I can attest to the opposite - it's there and it's obvious. ROMs for the i777 stem from one of two sources, Samsung or CM variants. ATT only released 4.1.2. to the i777 a few days ago, and Samsung to the i9100 before that. CM is on 4.2.2 but as you mentioned, that is where the bug originates. Therefore the CM derivatives, i.e. AOKP, all fall prey to it.
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That's what I was afraid of... that's the most difficult bug in the 4.2.2 ROMs for me to deal with. I guess I can use a wired headset for conference calls, etc...
I'm sure there are people much smarter than me looking into this, but maybe I'll have to dig in and see what's going on in the code and see if I can contribute anything...
Thanks!
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That's what I was afraid of... that's the most difficult bug in the 4.2.2 ROMs for me to deal with. I guess I can use a wired headset for conference calls, etc...
I'm sure there are people much smarter than me looking into this, but maybe I'll have to dig in and see what's going on in the code and see if I can contribute anything...
Thanks!
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I'm in the same boat as you. With a wired heatset I still experienced call stuttering but I love 4.2.2 for daily use. I've made do by swapping to a trusty Nokia e71 for critical calls - only two a week so I get by. Best of luck!
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Which JB 4.2.2 ROMs don't have the bluetooth/dialer lag issue?
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Task put out the newest AOKP today. If you upgrade, let me know how BT performs.

STABLE rom for Galaxy Note i717

Can anyone recommend a STABLE rom for the Galaxy note. I have been using CM 10.1 for a while and I am sick and tired of the constant lockups, the random restarts, audio not playing when I first boot the phone. Its a nightmare. It would be nice to have a rom as close to AOSP as possible with spen support. Most roms are to fancy. I'm looking for something strait android jelly been that actually runs properly.
Any recommendations would be great, thanks in advance.
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Can anyone recommend a STABLE rom for the Galaxy note. I have been using CM 10.1 for a while and I am sick and tired of the constant lockups, the random restarts, audio not playing when I first boot the phone. Its a nightmare. It would be nice to have a rom as close to AOSP as possible with spen support. Most roms are to fancy. I'm looking for something strait android jelly been that actually runs properly.
Any recommendations would be great, thanks in advance.
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I have tried almost each and every rom over here on this forum. I found the Rootbox, Slimbean and the Beanstalk almost close to stable. Right now trying revolt, so far so good.
well, i would recommend using either Padawan jb2 or blackstar jelly beta. They're both 4.1.2 but very stable... i stay away from the 4.2.2 jb roms just because of random reboots or lockups... i've pretty much tried them all and just end up going back to those 2.. Atm i'm using padawan jb2 over blackstar because of the jedi theme
You posted this im wrong section. ..mod will move it soon
I've been on AOKP since it started. I had some freezing and reboots at first. But the latest build has had zero. Running perfectly.
I'll also mention that before this update,I did flash the stock JB and then moved to AOKP.
Ive got a stable 4.2.2 build pme me if you want it
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You posted this im wrong section. ..mod will move it soon
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don't know why this would be moved??? its a question many have asked.
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I have tried almost each and every rom over here on this forum. I found the Rootbox, Slimbean and the Beanstalk almost close to stable. Right now trying revolt, so far so good.
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I have tried most of these and have moved on.... LOTS of customizing which I like, but the sacrifice has been battery and stability
vdub12 said:
Can anyone recommend a STABLE rom for the Galaxy note. I have been using CM 10.1 for a while and I am sick and tired of the constant lockups, the random restarts, audio not playing when I first boot the phone. Its a nightmare. It would be nice to have a rom as close to AOSP as possible with spen support. Most roms are to fancy. I'm looking for something strait android jelly been that actually runs properly.
Any recommendations would be great, thanks in advance.
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the only other 2 really remaining are Blackstar and Padawan........they are both AOSP and built with stability in mind.
every phone is different including yours. the results you are getting with AOKP are pretty much across the board and affect the majority. im sure there are a few lucky ones though.
FOR ME.............Padawan has been the FOSHIZZLE MY NIZZLE. not without its out of the gate tweaking needed. for me though, and its NOT something you ever hear, I have not had 1 single reboot. I have ran it longer than anything else I have ever run. you don't have many updates and the thread is pretty quiet lately. I believe it is because it is running so well.
wont lie to you, the only real issue people have is with lag, BUT there is a fix or more of a tweaking that folks do with orgasmic results.
good luck in your quest, we are here if you need us.
captemo said:
don't know why this would be moved??? its a question many have asked.
yeah but it belongs in q&a...... Not development.......
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captemo said:
don't know why this would be moved??? its a question many have asked.
yeah but it belongs in q&a...... Not development.......
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then they must have already moved it, cause I am in Q&A.
maybe there should be a caption stating "moved"
my bad
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Yeah the moderators are pretty quick on moving and closing threads when need be...but good luck on finding a stable rom. . There are a few. ..try a ics rom. .there are some good 4.2.2 ones as well
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the only other 2 really remaining are Blackstar and Padawan........they are both AOSP and built with stability in mind.
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blackstar and padawan are based on official tw jb not aosp. that is why they are stable. i use stock rom that i debloated of everything i dont use and phasekernel. everything works and no reboots.
i think we need to convince our friendly neihborhood moderator kennyglass123 to build the peoples rom for the note. it was the best rom i had on my epic.
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blackstar and padawan are based on official tw jb not aosp. that is why they are stable. i use stock rom that i debloated of everything i dont use and phasekernel. everything works and no reboots.
i think we need to convince our friendly neihborhood moderator kennyglass123 to build the peoples rom for the note. it was the best rom i had on my epic.
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well, you are probably right. that's why normally I wont state that, cause I will always be wrong.
NEVERTHELESS, everything else I said is true
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don't know why this would be moved??? its a question many have asked.
I have tried most of these and have moved on.... LOTS of customizing which I like, but the sacrifice has been battery and stability
the only other 2 really remaining are Blackstar and Padawan........they are both AOSP and built with stability in mind.
every phone is different including yours. the results you are getting with AOKP are pretty much across the board and affect the majority. im sure there are a few lucky ones though.
FOR ME.............Padawan has been the FOSHIZZLE MY NIZZLE. not without its out of the gate tweaking needed. for me though, and its NOT something you ever hear, I have not had 1 single reboot. I have ran it longer than anything else I have ever run. you don't have many updates and the thread is pretty quiet lately. I believe it is because it is running so well.
wont lie to you, the only real issue people have is with lag, BUT there is a fix or more of a tweaking that folks do with orgasmic results.
good luck in your quest, we are here if you need us.
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Just tried out Padawan... its a winner, except that my 64GB microsd doesn't work for some reason. It works fine on the stock rom.
As stated above I found 4.1 to be stable on my i717 ran some 4.2 cool options and looks great but I could not stop those dang reboots going to stick to 4.1 for now.
also not sure but feel like battery life might be a little better at the moment I'm running blackstar jelly beta if anyone has an idea of how to get 4.2 stable with no freezes please post
also on a few different roms 4.2
three to be exact gave the lines after blacking screen out you can fix by disabling hw overlays but annoying
Goodluck
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Most of the recommendations are all for custom roms that have some kind of non ASOP features. It would be cool to find something like CM that didn't reboot constantly.
You would think that since this rebooting problem has been going on for ages that it would be top priority. However, its like they don't care. I have heard of some people solving it by flashing a different kernel. Does anyone have a recommended kernel? Maybe even something that can be overclocked for 4.2.2. What do I need to look for regarding kernels?
vdub12 said:
Can anyone recommend a STABLE rom for the Galaxy note. I have been using CM 10.1 for a while and I am sick and tired of the constant lockups, the random restarts, audio not playing when I first boot the phone. Its a nightmare. It would be nice to have a rom as close to AOSP as possible with spen support. Most roms are to fancy. I'm looking for something strait android jelly been that actually runs properly.
Any recommendations would be great, thanks in advance.
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Audio problems: place a file called "local.prop" in your /data folder. In that file, add the lines:
lpa.decode=false
lpa.use-stagefright=false
These override the build.prop errors and allow audio to play. You can correct them in the build.prop file, but they get re-written every time you flash an update. Putting them in the local.prop file allows you to write the file once and "forget" about them.
On the nightlies, for the last two weeks or so, I've had good luck with stability. 90-ish hours on 7/01 before I crashed it to update to 7/04.
IMHO, Most crashing behavior can be traced to kernel irregularities, or poorly coded apps (Facebook being king in this respect). Just about every nightly rebooted frequently on mine if I tried fooling with overclocking. Once I stopped the OC attempts, stability returned.
Some apps will never be cleanly coded, either due to bad programming, or (as in facebook's case) too much fluffy functionality.
-blaine
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Audio problems: place a file called "local.prop" in your /data folder. In that file, add the lines:
lpa.decode=false
lpa.use-stagefright=false
These override the build.prop errors and allow audio to play. You can correct them in the build.prop file, but they get re-written every time you flash an update. Putting them in the local.prop file allows you to write the file once and "forget" about them.
On the nightlies, for the last two weeks or so, I've had good luck with stability. 90-ish hours on 7/01 before I crashed it to update to 7/04.
IMHO, Most crashing behavior can be traced to kernel irregularities, or poorly coded apps (Facebook being king in this respect). Just about every nightly rebooted frequently on mine if I tried fooling with overclocking. Once I stopped the OC attempts, stability returned.
Some apps will never be cleanly coded, either due to bad programming, or (as in facebook's case) too much fluffy functionality.
-blaine
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Just tried that and my audio still doesn't play after boot. I have to kill the app once and then it plays fine just like before. I already had the file local.prop in /data so I just edited it. I added those lines to the bottom of the file. When I click on an audio file in ES or try to play any kind of media file in another program I can wait a few minutes for it to force close and then it works fine until I reboot again.
I'm using the 7/4 nightly right now. It has rebooted about twice a day since flashing. That's actually about average. It reboots more if I use my phone more. It doesn't seam to matter what app I'm in. However, it happens more often when I'm typing. I use thumb keyboard. However, I tried the stock keyboard for a few days and had the same results.
I have heard many people have great success flashing a different kernel. However, no one ever mentions what kernel they use. Do you have any recommendations. I am not interested in overclocking as much as I want stability.
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Audio problems: place a file called "local.prop" in your /data folder. In that file, add the lines:
lpa.decode=false
lpa.use-stagefright=false
These override the build.prop errors and allow audio to play. You can correct them in the build.prop file, but they get re-written every time you flash an update. Putting them in the local.prop file allows you to write the file once and "forget" about them.
On the nightlies, for the last two weeks or so, I've had good luck with stability. 90-ish hours on 7/01 before I crashed it to update to 7/04.
IMHO, Most crashing behavior can be traced to kernel irregularities, or poorly coded apps (Facebook being king in this respect). Just about every nightly rebooted frequently on mine if I tried fooling with overclocking. Once I stopped the OC attempts, stability returned.
Some apps will never be cleanly coded, either due to bad programming, or (as in facebook's case) too much fluffy functionality.
-blaine
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I just edited those lines in the build.prop and that solved my problem with the audio. Thanks!!!!!!
Could I have edited the wrong local.prop or is there a chance my phone isn’t using it for some reason? I edited the file in /data I added those lines to the bottom of the file with a space above them.
The file contained one line
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
I've tried all these and the installation always aborts :/
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This is so ridiculous. My phone has now rebooted 3 times in the last hour.
There is no way the the CM team doesn't know about this.

XT912, Cyanogenmod issues, other roms... some questions.

I tried Cyanogenmod after hearing about it over and over.. turned out to be pretty terrible on my Razr Maxx. Constant reboots, CPU getting stuck at full load making my phone get really hot, poor battery life, bluetooth completely going haywire almost daily requiring me to clear dalvik cache to use it.
I am looking at trying a different rom, but from what I have heard, most roms use the kernel used by CM. Now, I don't know if the issues I've had are related to the kernel, or if they're related to the software. Does anyone know anything about that? Has anyone been using a rom that seems to work pretty flawlessly on the device? All I'm looking for is something stable, lightweight, and well maintained. Any recommendations?
I need to get a different rom on there, the stock rom for whatever reason can't connect to bluetooth in my new car.
EDIT: Sorry I meant to post this in General, it wont let me delete my own threads
I have this rom and have no problems with it and I have the normal Razr but they are the same inside. Try wiping every thing and starting over that has helped me a lot
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Also it could be you are running a lot of stuff in the back ground so try getting rid of that stuff
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arcooke said:
I tried Cyanogenmod after hearing about it over and over.. turned out to be pretty terrible on my Razr Maxx. Constant reboots, CPU getting stuck at full load making my phone get really hot, poor battery life, bluetooth completely going haywire almost daily requiring me to clear dalvik cache to use it.
I am looking at trying a different rom, but from what I have heard, most roms use the kernel used by CM. Now, I don't know if the issues I've had are related to the kernel, or if they're related to the software. Does anyone know anything about that? Has anyone been using a rom that seems to work pretty flawlessly on the device? All I'm looking for is something stable, lightweight, and well maintained. Any recommendations?
I need to get a different rom on there, the stock rom for whatever reason can't connect to bluetooth in my new car.
EDIT: Sorry I meant to post this in General, it wont let me delete my own threads
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Honestly, a lot of the time the AOSP Roms such as CM just don't work as well on our locked-bootloader devices as they do on others. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome that the devs here have given us these great Roms, but they just don't work as well as Stock or Motoblur based Roms do. If you definitely want AOSP, I'd personally recommend CarbonRom. It has always run very well for me on my phone.
arcooke said:
I tried Cyanogenmod after hearing about it over and over.. turned out to be pretty terrible on my Razr Maxx. Constant reboots, CPU getting stuck at full load making my phone get really hot, poor battery life, bluetooth completely going haywire almost daily requiring me to clear dalvik cache to use it.
I am looking at trying a different rom, but from what I have heard, most roms use the kernel used by CM. Now, I don't know if the issues I've had are related to the kernel, or if they're related to the software. Does anyone know anything about that? Has anyone been using a rom that seems to work pretty flawlessly on the device? All I'm looking for is something stable, lightweight, and well maintained. Any recommendations?
I need to get a different rom on there, the stock rom for whatever reason can't connect to bluetooth in my new car.
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Try it with carbon and jbx kernel. Works very well.
Carbon isn't really maintained atm but the latest build is the last version of 4.2.2. Now they are working on a 4.3 version. I will try to port the 4.3 version when it's out but I think there will be no official support anymore.
If you have the xt910 there is only my unofficial build. The xt912 has a official build.
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Para94 said:
Try it with carbon and jbx kernel. Works very well.
Carbon isn't really maintained atm but the latest build is the last version of 4.2.2. Now they are working on a 4.3 version. I will try to port the 4.3 version when it's out but I think there will be no official support anymore.
If you have the xt910 there is only my unofficial build. The xt912 has a official build.
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Installed the latest nightly, will give this one a shot. Thank you! I saw it in the list but I wasn't a huge fan of the design in the screenshots, but now that I have it on my phone I like it. Hopefully no bluetooth issues since it seems a lot was carried over from CM.
I had the same Hell with CM10. And DU. And when I asked about these issues the reaction from fanbois here was terrible and hyperbolic, so from then on I just complained about them. (No GPS? No MMS? Low-rez camera? FCs? Really? {der})
So I searched and searched for a good rom when miui stopped supporting the xt910.
+1 for Carbon. It is fantastic. Sometimes you get a black screen on boot so just reboot to BMM and fix permissions. I am so relieved to have a good rom. I now have stock on slot 1, Carbon on slot 2 (daily driver), AOKP on slot 3, and an old MIUI on slot 4. MIUI5 is non-functional as system files are not actually installed.
I have miui5 installed on system 2 with bmm so far it's flawless
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I have miui5 installed on system 2 with bmm so far it's flawless
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Well that's dynamite, marconz. But that's not on 3 or 4, is it. I am not about to replace Carbon with MIUI now.
cm10, carbon, aokp. all of these roms gave me that random NO SOUND issue. ringtone, notification, alarm...completely went silent. even if i go to settings>sounds and try to tap on the sound i want, it does not emit any sounds at all. eclipse is the only one that has not done this so i am sticking with eclipse for now. but i leave Rom Slot 1 open just so i can try CM10 every now and then hoping the sound issue is fixed. trust me, i want CM10 to work but if the sound intermittently doesn't work like that, i can't have that as a daily driver rom.
This thread should be moved to general section, there is no development here
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cm10, carbon, aokp. all of these roms gave me that random NO SOUND issue. ringtone, notification, alarm...completely went silent. even if i go to settings>sounds and try to tap on the sound i want, it does not emit any sounds at all. eclipse is the only one that has not done this so i am sticking with eclipse for now. but i leave Rom Slot 1 open just so i can try CM10 every now and then hoping the sound issue is fixed. trust me, i want CM10 to work but if the sound intermittently doesn't work like that, i can't have that as a daily driver rom.
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i had the same problem,at the start i think it's a rom problem too...in my case if i press a little where the kevlar start make curve,under the rear speaker,all sound start again and i belive that it possible for you to make a normal call but not using the speakerphone...
Try see how i solved and sorry for my bad english
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274055
Vallerino WR said:
i had the same problem,at the start i think it's a rom problem too...in my case if i press a little where the kevlar start make curve,under the rear speaker,all sound start again and i belive that it possible for you to make a normal call but not using the speakerphone...
Try see how i solved and sorry for my bad english
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274055
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If u have to press the back of your phone to make the sound come back then I think you might have a hardware issue. My sounds will not come back until I reboot the phone. Thats a software issue

The most rock-solid stable ROM 4.0-4.4??

Now that I've got my ZUGPe my Note is going into semi retirement as mp3 player / cycling gps / htpc remote and I don't care so much about features and customizing as I do about stabiltiy now. I have dealt with varying degrees of instability with many many CM and AOKP variations to stay on Vanilla-ish Android. I really really really hate Touchwiz, but do I have to go back to Touchwiz to get something really stable? I'll cut you off and say maybe my phone just never agreed with CM or AOKP so even if yours is stable mine never quite got there, never more than 2-3 days without a RR or lockup, and usually several RR each day. My old Incredible on CM goes nearly a month before an issue creeps up but to be fair it doesn't get a ton of use. Neither will the Note so I just want something solid and dependable, rather than cutting-edge. Thanks for tossing your opinions at me!
You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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its PT's also
Carbonrom V 1.8
I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
HTH
James
i717 said:
I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
HTH
James
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However, not to be technical, but its "Uber".
For Bulldogs function and for mine, we are not using phone function anymore. Just a sort of mini tablet.
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I would base this question on "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".... She also has the 717, but won't let me put my dirty mitts on it That being said, without question I would put AOKP 4.4.2 on it if she finally relented. One of the most stable I have run, and blownfuze said he has no intention of giving up his note anytime soon. Which means we will get support for a while on that one.
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:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
i717 said:
:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
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I just posted link the other day and gapps for it too
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I thought aokp 4.4.2 and all kit kat roms had issues with the display going crazy especially related to games and lock screens. I though the camcorder doesn't work yet for aokp. I am in the same boat. My s4 died so I am back to the old note. I am going to try carbon 1.8 or sons on android, as those are the only download links I can find. Thanks for this post.
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Thank you captemo for the direction of the Sons of Android files.:good:
I did DL them. My connection must have been wonky.
I had issues with the Gapps file. It must have been a bad download for me. Tried twice. Got the ROM to load up fine, but without Gapps I didn't get a good testing done. I was using TWRP.
Without an MD5 to be sure my DL was good I probably shouldn't have tried it.
So I reinstalled Carbon V1.8 from my BU.
Since my last post, I did have a FC and reboot related to my BeWeather App. I have also had issues with this App in TW based ROMs I've tried.
I don't load allot of Apps, or run many programs. And the ones I can Greenify, I do. Maybe this is why Carbon works for me?:fingers-crossed:
I reset my weather App to update manually when I use it now. I think it updating as the program opens has been the trouble.
Is there a problem with Auto-Brightness on non TW roms? My display flickers when I unlock my screen. This happened on 4.4.2 roms and 4.2.2 carbon 1.8. Is there a simple fix I am forgetting?
The auto bright setting on the non TW based ROMs I have tried have not been as smooth as TW ROMs. I set the auto function off, and set it to low.
Some of the non TW based ROMs have the slide your finger across the top of the screen to manually adjust brightness. Nice feature.
I went back to the download dropbox provided by captemo and re-downloaded the files, and got a good clean ROM and Gapps. :good:
I am using "Sons Of Android" now, and like it very much! So far so good!
Thank you, captemo :good:

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